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(Hardball Talk)   Jeter on his last leg? Yankees waste no time acquiring Mariners' shortstop Brendan Ryan   (hardballtalk.nbcsports.com ) divider line
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2013-09-11 06:45:27 AM  
So they replaced the "worst fielding" ss with the "best" fielding one.
 
2013-09-11 07:29:26 AM  
When they release him, they'll send him a fruit basket.
 
2013-09-11 07:53:21 AM  
What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.
 
2013-09-11 08:00:52 AM  
If not for the destroyed ankle, he'd still be decent. One more season at the most, it's not like they can have him coast as a DH for a while.
 
2013-09-11 08:11:11 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.


Yeah, because Brendan Ryan was that final piece to the Ms World Series title...
 
2013-09-11 08:22:23 AM  

Outrageous Muff: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.

Yeah, because Brendan Ryan was that final piece to the Ms World Series title...


Oh, I don't have a problem with the trade. I have a problem with it being the Yankees. Any other team.
 
2013-09-11 08:25:11 AM  
As a Red Sox fan, I think it's really kinda sad to see Jeter getting dragged through a non-playoff season in this condition to end such a fine career. Hats off to him for showing a generation(or two) what a pro baseball player is supposed to be.
 
2013-09-11 08:37:07 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Outrageous Muff: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.

Yeah, because Brendan Ryan was that final piece to the Ms World Series title...

Oh, I don't have a problem with the trade. I have a problem with it being the Yankees. Any other team.


Did you get back pieces you need?
 
2013-09-11 08:50:18 AM  

Gunny Highway: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Outrageous Muff: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.

Yeah, because Brendan Ryan was that final piece to the Ms World Series title...

Oh, I don't have a problem with the trade. I have a problem with it being the Yankees. Any other team.

Did you get back pieces you need?


That's irrelevant because Yankees.
 
2013-09-11 08:52:52 AM  

Gunny Highway: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: Outrageous Muff: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.

Yeah, because Brendan Ryan was that final piece to the Ms World Series title...

Oh, I don't have a problem with the trade. I have a problem with it being the Yankees. Any other team.

Did you get back pieces you need?


Some dude named 'Tobenamedlater'. Sounds hispanic?
 
2013-09-11 08:53:16 AM  
I'll miss Brendan's great handlebar mustache, but I won't miss that his sub .200 batting average.
 
2013-09-11 09:07:17 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: When they release him, they'll send him a fruit basket.


I like that one, and I'm not even sure if you're talking about Ryan or Jeter.
 
2013-09-11 09:15:21 AM  

Outrageous Muff: So they replaced the "worst fielding" ss with the "best" fielding one.


No the best fielding one is still in Atlanta
 
2013-09-11 09:23:27 AM  

MFAWG: Some dude named 'Tobenamedlater'. Sounds hispanic?


It's Dutch, you racist.
 
2013-09-11 09:39:13 AM  

Babwa Wawa: MFAWG: Some dude named 'Tobenamedlater'. Sounds hispanic?

It's Dutch, you racist.


The last Dutch guy didn't really work out.
 
2013-09-11 09:47:32 AM  
yeah, that'll solve their offensive woes...
 
2013-09-11 10:19:26 AM  

MFAWG: Babwa Wawa: MFAWG: Some dude named 'Tobenamedlater'. Sounds hispanic?

It's Dutch, you racist.

The last Dutch guy didn't really work out.


It was worth taking a stab, though.
 
2013-09-11 10:23:56 AM  
Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.
 
2013-09-11 10:35:45 AM  

Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.


Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.
 
2013-09-11 10:51:48 AM  
Brendan Ryan:
Defensive upgrade for any team he is on
Offensive vacuum for any team he is on

As a Mariner's fan, he was very fun to watch in the field, I turned my back when he was at the plate. Just couldn't handle it.
 
2013-09-11 11:38:48 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: If not for the destroyed ankle, he'd still be decent. One more season at the most, it's not like they can have him coast as a DH for a while.


Jeter had range issues long before the ankle injury.

Saw an amusing quote from Bill James a few weeks ago comparing Jeter to (former Astros good-glove, no-hit SS) Adam Everett. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the difference in watching them play the position was the difference between watching Barbara Bush (GWB's mom, not daughter) dance at the White House and watching Demi Moore in Striptease.
 
2013-09-11 11:46:36 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: If not for the destroyed ankle, he'd still be decent. One more season at the most, it's not like they can have him coast as a DH for a while.


He (and the Yankees) are probably seeing how far up the All-Time Hits list he can get before everything just gives out (he may have gotten top 5 this year if not for the injury) and for him to go out "on his own terms" (a la Mariano).
 
2013-09-11 12:08:07 PM  

MFAWG: Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.

Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.


The mariners would be retarded to trade Franklin anywhere. Which means they'll do that at the end of the season for some over the hill hitter.
 
2013-09-11 12:41:26 PM  

SenorBenedict: MFAWG: Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.

Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.

The mariners would be retarded to trade Franklin anywhere. Which means they'll do that at the end of the season for some over the hill hitter.


We'll go find Richie Sexson and see if he wants to take $30mil off our hands.
 
2013-09-11 12:56:13 PM  

jdjoker: Saw an amusing quote from Bill James a few weeks ago comparing Jeter to (former Astros good-glove, no-hit SS) Adam Everett. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the difference in watching them play the position was the difference between watching Barbara Bush (GWB's mom, not daughter) dance at the White House and watching Demi Moore in Striptease.


That's from this very good article:

http://fieldingbible.com/jeter.asp
 
2013-09-11 01:01:24 PM  

DeWayne Mann: jdjoker: Saw an amusing quote from Bill James a few weeks ago comparing Jeter to (former Astros good-glove, no-hit SS) Adam Everett. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the difference in watching them play the position was the difference between watching Barbara Bush (GWB's mom, not daughter) dance at the White House and watching Demi Moore in Striptease.

That's from this very good article:

http://fieldingbible.com/jeter.asp


I assume the analogy means he thinks Ryan is artificially enhanced, but that's made him more fun to watch.
 
2013-09-11 01:31:17 PM  

Shame Us: SenorBenedict: MFAWG: Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.

Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.

The mariners would be retarded to trade Franklin anywhere. Which means they'll do that at the end of the season for some over the hill hitter.

We'll go find Richie Sexson and see if he wants to take $30mil off our hands.


Nah Sexson would be too good for the mariners. I'm guessing we'll get Arod and Ichiro back for a Griffey retirement tour, just in time for them to go into the hall as yankees.
 
2013-09-11 02:46:06 PM  

SenorBenedict: Shame Us: SenorBenedict: MFAWG: Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.

Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.

The mariners would be retarded to trade Franklin anywhere. Which means they'll do that at the end of the season for some over the hill hitter.

We'll go find Richie Sexson and see if he wants to take $30mil off our hands.

Nah Sexson would be too good for the mariners. I'm guessing we'll get Arod and Ichiro back for a Griffey retirement tour, just in time for them to go into the hall as yankees.


It would be HIGHLARIOUS if the PTBNL was Ichiro or Pineda.

Would take Ichiro with this outfield, though.
 
2013-09-11 02:46:42 PM  
For some reason anytime I hear about Mariners/Yankees trades I think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
 
2013-09-11 02:54:50 PM  

MFAWG: SenorBenedict: Shame Us: SenorBenedict: MFAWG: Super Chronic: Word on Ryan is that his defense, while still very good, isn't quite as consistently spectacular this year as it has been in recent years.  Over the last few seasons he's been a roughly 2-WAR player despite being perhaps the single worst hitter (among non-pitchers) in all of baseball; just think about what that says about his glove.  This year, that hasn't been the case.  But no doubt he's still capable of bringing it.

Franklin is no slouch with the glove, either.

The mariners would be retarded to trade Franklin anywhere. Which means they'll do that at the end of the season for some over the hill hitter.

We'll go find Richie Sexson and see if he wants to take $30mil off our hands.

Nah Sexson would be too good for the mariners. I'm guessing we'll get Arod and Ichiro back for a Griffey retirement tour, just in time for them to go into the hall as yankees.

It would be HIGHLARIOUS if the PTBNL was Ichiro or Pineda.

Would take Ichiro with this outfield, though.


There's no way they give us a guy on their 40-man roster.
 
2013-09-11 03:07:07 PM  
Well to be fair, Ryan's bat is so atrocious Seattle might end up having to give NY a player to be named later.
 
2013-09-11 03:22:19 PM  
Just because this is what always happens to Mariners fans, Brendan Ryan will go to the Yankees and all of a sudden become a .320 hitter to go along with that defensive skill.
 
2013-09-11 03:27:36 PM  

scoughlin: Just because this is what always happens to Mariners fans, Brendan Ryan will go to the Yankees and all of a sudden become a .320 hitter to go along with that defensive skill.


Man if that happens it'll be more obvious that he juiced than Brett Boone.  Well juiced/made a deal with satan.
 
2013-09-11 04:08:08 PM  
Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?
 
2013-09-11 04:10:21 PM  

Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?


As Olbermann put it last night, neither are the rest of the Yankees.
 
2013-09-11 04:15:35 PM  
I spent the last few years wishing the M's would let the pitchers bat and instead DH for Ryan.  Good luck Yankees.
 
2013-09-11 04:50:24 PM  

Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?


I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.
 
2013-09-11 07:33:47 PM  

Craw Fu: I spent the last few years wishing the M's would let the pitchers bat and instead DH for Ryan.  Good luck Yankees.


I was at a game where that happened, LOL.P
 
2013-09-12 09:28:16 AM  

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: What are we? The Yankee farm team? Swear to Zeus that's all the M's do lately.


If they tuned that "M" upside down, this wouldn't be a problem
 
2013-09-12 10:05:50 AM  

idesofmarch: Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?

I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.


If he has any sense at all, Jeter will realize that he's done and should call it a career.
 
2013-09-12 10:29:43 AM  

darch: idesofmarch: Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?

I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.

If he has any sense at all, Jeter will realize that he's done and should call it a career.


Except he's not.  This season happened because he couldn't exercise his leg at all last off-season, and that prevented him from keeping it strong, which caused his further injuries this season.  However, if he can have the proper exercise regimen this offseason, next year he should be able to play.  He'll be a 40-year-old shortstop/DH, but he'll play.
 
2013-09-12 01:49:09 PM  

idesofmarch: darch: idesofmarch: Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?

I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.

If he has any sense at all, Jeter will realize that he's done and should call it a career.

Except he's not.  This season happened because he couldn't exercise his leg at all last off-season, and that prevented him from keeping it strong, which caused his further injuries this season.  However, if he can have the proper exercise regimen this offseason, next year he should be able to play.  He'll be a 40-year-old shortstop/DH, but he'll play.


Ok. And if I could invent a machine that solved the world's energy problems, I'd be a rich man. What's your point? If Jeter couldn't properly rehab that leg, he shouldn't have been allowed/decided to return to play. Simple.
 
2013-09-12 02:14:48 PM  

darch: idesofmarch: darch: idesofmarch: Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?

I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.

If he has any sense at all, Jeter will realize that he's done and should call it a career.

Except he's not.  This season happened because he couldn't exercise his leg at all last off-season, and that prevented him from keeping it strong, which caused his further injuries this season.  However, if he can have the proper exercise regimen this offseason, next year he should be able to play.  He'll be a 40-year-old shortstop/DH, but he'll play.

Ok. And if I could invent a machine that solved the world's energy problems, I'd be a rich man. What's your point? If Jeter couldn't properly rehab that leg, he shouldn't have been allowed/decided to return to play. Simple.


He probably should not have been allowed to come back as quickly as he did - this is true.  But he's the type of player who wants to be playing, and he made the decision.

My point is (since apparently it went in one ear and out the other) this off-season he will be rehabbing a far less serious injury, so he should be able to put in the work necessary to be ready for next season.
 
2013-09-12 03:34:41 PM  

idesofmarch: darch: idesofmarch: darch: idesofmarch: Milk D: Yankee fans are smart baseball fans - so they know he is not playoff eligible.  right? right?

I heard about this on the radio last night.  I don't quite understand it, but OK - Yankees can cross that bridge if they come to it.

And in other news, I hear it's official that Jeter is done for the season.

If he has any sense at all, Jeter will realize that he's done and should call it a career.

Except he's not.  This season happened because he couldn't exercise his leg at all last off-season, and that prevented him from keeping it strong, which caused his further injuries this season.  However, if he can have the proper exercise regimen this offseason, next year he should be able to play.  He'll be a 40-year-old shortstop/DH, but he'll play.

Ok. And if I could invent a machine that solved the world's energy problems, I'd be a rich man. What's your point? If Jeter couldn't properly rehab that leg, he shouldn't have been allowed/decided to return to play. Simple.

He probably should not have been allowed to come back as quickly as he did - this is true.  But he's the type of player who wants to be playing, and he made the decision.

My point is (since apparently it went in one ear and out the other) this off-season he will be rehabbing a far less serious injury, so he should be able to put in the work necessary to be ready for next season.


I hope you're right. The Yankees' star is fading fast.
 
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