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(Daily Mail)   An 'artificial egg' made from plants is set to revolutionize cooking, Egg McMuffins   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 15
    More: Interesting, Egg McMuffins, plants, Bill Gates, Peter Thiel, cash crops, market dominance, mayonnaise, whole foods  
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2013-09-10 09:02:46 PM  
3 votes:
No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.
2013-09-11 01:23:27 AM  
2 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

Look, the Daily Mail are one of those publications that somehow have negative expertise on scientific subjects, reading their articles causes you to lose scientific knowledge.

So... back up a second, breathe, and put the pieces together on your own.  This is a project backed by the Gates foundation: they don't give a shiat about how things taste, they're more of a "try to solve world hunger" type of organization.

Now, consider depending on chickens for the portion of your dietary needs covered by eggs, and think about how easily they're, say, stolen or killed in a subsistence agriculture situation (they primary target market of the Gates foundation) versus how easily a set of plants that have to be mixed together are stolen.  Now think about distribution, and spoilage.  Take another breath, and take another moment to consider something that can be made from a combination of plants, compare it to existing egg substitutes that require large amounts of industrial processing, and think again about living in, say, central Africa with a warlord or three between you and every industrialized region.

Long story short: this is an incredibly useful thing.  Stop whinging just because the modern foods designed to keep most of our 6+ billion asses from starving to death doesn't make a perfectly delectable foie gras or whatever, you ridiculous first-world-focused person.

//If there's a demand for your subsistence-level substitute in the first world due to crazy vegans or whatever, and you can get the first-world idiots to subsidize your awesome food substitute so you're not sinking as much cash into it, more farking power to you.


Except they are talking about putting this stuff on market shelves in the first world,  So it should meet our first world focus, shouldn't it?

And seriously, you think an African village that has a "warlord or three between them and every industrialized region" is going to have better access to a industrially produced food source or the eggs they get from the chicken in their back yard? Hell chickens eat bugs and seeds, two really cheap things, when they die they produce meat, when you leave them to their eggs you get more chickens. Now how is a self replicating and sustaining food source cheaper and more efficient then a multiply types of crops from multiply growing regions being chemically processed?
2013-09-11 12:45:30 AM  
2 votes:
This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance.  You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal.  I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine.  ;-/
2013-09-11 12:35:44 AM  
2 votes:
What a useless, worthless invention.  The people who spent time working on that should feel bad for wasting their lives.
2013-09-11 12:34:17 AM  
2 votes:
Eggs are the perfect food. Low calorie, high protein, and a decent amount of good cholesterol and fat. A couple hard boiled eggs and a couple pieces of bacon are a perfect breakfast on the go.
2013-09-11 06:31:56 PM  
1 votes:

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.


Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point.

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process.  The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".
2013-09-11 04:34:10 PM  
1 votes:

maxheck: Luse:

TwowheelinTim: panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance. You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal. I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine. ;-/

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.

That's what always confounded me.
"We took plants and processed the everloving crap out of them with all sorts of crap, no animals tho so healthy and natural."
That and always trying to make things taste like various meats.

"this move to force veganism on everyone" strikes me as about as successful as the move to force Sharia law on Alabama and about as worrisome. Indeed, not even that.

So far as processing the everloving crap out of things...

Not everyone cares about "healthy or natural," as evidenced by the crap put into EVERYTHING that people still buy. Ever read the ingredients on things you have in your pantry right now, including the stuff that would qualify as vegan?

I don't worry about why some people won't eat certain things. Why doesn't a 10-year old like broccoli? Heck, I won't eat crustaceans because I know what they eat, even though some people think they're a delicacy. I've eaten exactly one fried tarantula and that was enough, I don't plan to eat any more. I grew up on a farm and know from birth to death how lambs live before they're slaughtered and cut up to make tasty, tasty lamb chops, and I'll eat the hell out of them anyway.

I've never questioned vegan friends as to *why* they will or will not eat things. And that may be why I've never gotten lectured on the reason and smug or moral issues were never involved.

Personally, I like having more options. See my above post.


Actually looking at my pantry is what made me choose the natural, healthy diet. My meat comes from a butcher or hunter, my vegies are fresh, not canned etc. If that means no tomatoes this week, oh well.

As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.
I am all for choice. Quinoa, rice or taters is a choice.
Compressed, superheated, chemically treated plant stuff shaped, dyed and flavored to taste like meat is crap.
2013-09-11 01:04:14 AM  
1 votes:
So this replacement egg isn't being used in lieu of eggs, doesn't act like eggs in cooking, isn't remotely egglike for any reason whatsoever... the same can be said for asphalt and I'm not eating that either.
2013-09-11 12:57:41 AM  
1 votes:

HawgWild: Hell, them ain't eggs in Egg McMuffins anyway ...


Pretty sure they are.
2013-09-11 12:41:42 AM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.


It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.
2013-09-11 12:39:53 AM  
1 votes:
This is stupid, first off the article says they only have an egg substitute for mayo and baking goods. Well first off it's not mayo if there aren't real eggs in it and second it's been done

It's generically called salad dressing

Oh and here's some vegetarian egg substitute.
www.humanesociety.org
2013-09-11 12:39:29 AM  
1 votes:
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2013-09-11 12:36:17 AM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.


This was my take on it. They made a separate ingredient for two purposes. Are they going to make an "egg substitute" for each and every purpose out there? One for cake, one for cookies, one for meatloaf, one for breading etc etc etc?

That seems like an incredible pain for people who want to actually cook, having 12 different "egg" boxes on hand, but that's just me.
2013-09-11 12:36:04 AM  
1 votes:
Merengue.
2013-09-10 10:33:22 PM  
1 votes:
Ummmm... do we still have real eggs?

Then....hahahahaha... I don't care!

Really..... put your tofu souffle where the sun don't shine. I mean that.
 
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