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(Daily Mail)   An 'artificial egg' made from plants is set to revolutionize cooking, Egg McMuffins   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 126
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2013-09-10 08:44:47 PM  
wonder why this grnlit w no comments??  only mods & admins know?
 
2013-09-10 08:50:33 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Goes with the bacon
 
2013-09-10 08:52:32 PM  
We've had ackee for years.
 
2013-09-10 09:02:46 PM  
No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.
 
2013-09-10 09:10:36 PM  
I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!
 
2013-09-10 09:11:49 PM  
Hell, them ain't eggs in Egg McMuffins anyway ...
 
2013-09-10 09:15:17 PM  

laulaja: wonder why this grnlit w no comments??  only mods & admins know?


You submitted this with a funnier headline
 
2013-09-10 09:23:25 PM  

oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!


The fertilizer?
 
2013-09-10 09:28:14 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!

The fertilizer?


Fair enough - but I ain't eating that blasphemous `turkey' bacon!
 
2013-09-10 09:31:25 PM  
Egg McMuffin's what?
 
2013-09-10 09:44:55 PM  

Donnchadha: Egg McMuffin's what?


Came here to ask the same...
 
2013-09-10 09:57:49 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.


I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.
 
2013-09-10 10:33:22 PM  
Ummmm... do we still have real eggs?

Then....hahahahaha... I don't care!

Really..... put your tofu souffle where the sun don't shine. I mean that.
 
2013-09-11 12:32:29 AM  

oldfarthenry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!

The fertilizer?

Fair enough - but I ain't eating that blasphemous `turkey' bacon!


Turkey bacon is great with Guacamole. That is the only thing it goes with.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:49 AM  
DNRTFA but can I put my junk in it?
 
2013-09-11 12:33:59 AM  
Being a vegan or a vegetarian is a natural. Causes cancer.
 
2013-09-11 12:34:17 AM  
Eggs are the perfect food. Low calorie, high protein, and a decent amount of good cholesterol and fat. A couple hard boiled eggs and a couple pieces of bacon are a perfect breakfast on the go.
 
2013-09-11 12:35:44 AM  
What a useless, worthless invention.  The people who spent time working on that should feel bad for wasting their lives.
 
2013-09-11 12:36:04 AM  
Merengue.
 
2013-09-11 12:36:17 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.


This was my take on it. They made a separate ingredient for two purposes. Are they going to make an "egg substitute" for each and every purpose out there? One for cake, one for cookies, one for meatloaf, one for breading etc etc etc?

That seems like an incredible pain for people who want to actually cook, having 12 different "egg" boxes on hand, but that's just me.
 
2013-09-11 12:36:20 AM  

Donnchadha: Egg McMuffin's what?


Think smaller with more legs.
 
2013-09-11 12:37:39 AM  
I thought we were all 3D printing our food now, as well as the replacement organs we'll need to digest that food?
 
2013-09-11 12:39:29 AM  
img89.imageshack.us
Relevant.
 
2013-09-11 12:39:53 AM  
This is stupid, first off the article says they only have an egg substitute for mayo and baking goods. Well first off it's not mayo if there aren't real eggs in it and second it's been done

It's generically called salad dressing

Oh and here's some vegetarian egg substitute.
www.humanesociety.org
 
2013-09-11 12:40:16 AM  
I don't care what anyone thinks, McDonalds has a pretty solid breakfast.
 
2013-09-11 12:41:02 AM  

tjsands1118: This is stupid, first off the article says they only have an egg substitute for mayo and baking goods. Well first off it's not mayo if there aren't real eggs in it and second it's been done

It's generically called salad dressing

Oh and here's some vegetarian egg substitute.
[www.humanesociety.org image 270x224]


Didn't post my picture of miracle whip.
ninecooks.typepad.com
 
2013-09-11 12:41:42 AM  

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.


It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.
 
2013-09-11 12:45:30 AM  
This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance.  You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal.  I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine.  ;-/
 
2013-09-11 12:45:54 AM  

p4p3rm4t3: Relevant.


Jesus, the one on the right looks like a farking genital warts cluster
 
2013-09-11 12:46:35 AM  

redsquid: DNRTFA but can I put my junk in it?


sure why not
 
2013-09-11 12:52:24 AM  

panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance.  You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal.  I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine.  ;-/


I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.
 
2013-09-11 12:55:48 AM  

Acidicnads: Being a vegan or a vegetarian is a natural. Causes cancer.


Ya know what else causes cancer?  Otters.  Thats what.
 
2013-09-11 12:57:41 AM  

HawgWild: Hell, them ain't eggs in Egg McMuffins anyway ...


Pretty sure they are.
 
2013-09-11 12:58:23 AM  
UNFERTILIZED CHICKEN EMBRYOS FOREVER!

but if the new stuff is tasty, I am willing to give it a try...   I like to eat things...
 
2013-09-11 12:59:40 AM  
Can you masturbate with it?
 
2013-09-11 01:00:00 AM  
I will not eat them here or there.
I will not eat them anywhere.
-why, yes , I have kids and we love Dr. Seuss
 
2013-09-11 01:00:09 AM  

RatMaster999: Can you masturbate with it?


for sure man... for sure...
 
2013-09-11 01:00:37 AM  
Out of all the food stuffs that people in developing countries have trouble procuring, poultry and eggs aren't anywhere near that list. You can go to the tiniest most remote island in Southeast Asia and the locals will have a chicken coop. Humans have been stealing eggs from nests for as long as we have existed. There is no reason for this, especially since eggs aren't bad for us.

Now, artificial cow meat and pig meat have potential if we can make those happen. Cattle require massive amounts of land, water, grass for grazing, protection from other animals. Pigs aren't quite as expensive to raise, but still way higher up the list than chickens and eggs.
 
2013-09-11 01:01:11 AM  
I think eating things made from plant eggs is probably a bad idea.
 
2013-09-11 01:02:03 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-11 01:04:14 AM  
So this replacement egg isn't being used in lieu of eggs, doesn't act like eggs in cooking, isn't remotely egglike for any reason whatsoever... the same can be said for asphalt and I'm not eating that either.
 
2013-09-11 01:04:18 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.

It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.


citation needed
 
2013-09-11 01:05:29 AM  

TwowheelinTim: panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance.  You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal.  I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine.  ;-/

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.


I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products.  Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...
 
2013-09-11 01:06:00 AM  

Sim Tree: TwowheelinTim: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.

It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.

citation needed


Jesus Christ, you people are helpless.
 
2013-09-11 01:11:35 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.


Look, the Daily Mail are one of those publications that somehow have negative expertise on scientific subjects, reading their articles causes you to lose scientific knowledge.

So... back up a second, breathe, and put the pieces together on your own.  This is a project backed by the Gates foundation: they don't give a shiat about how things taste, they're more of a "try to solve world hunger" type of organization.

Now, consider depending on chickens for the portion of your dietary needs covered by eggs, and think about how easily they're, say, stolen or killed in a subsistence agriculture situation (they primary target market of the Gates foundation) versus how easily a set of plants that have to be mixed together are stolen.  Now think about distribution, and spoilage.  Take another breath, and take another moment to consider something that can be made from a combination of plants, compare it to existing egg substitutes that require large amounts of industrial processing, and think again about living in, say, central Africa with a warlord or three between you and every industrialized region.

Long story short: this is an incredibly useful thing.  Stop whinging just because the modern foods designed to keep most of our 6+ billion asses from starving to death doesn't make a perfectly delectable foie gras or whatever, you ridiculous first-world-focused person.

//If there's a demand for your subsistence-level substitute in the first world due to crazy vegans or whatever, and you can get the first-world idiots to subsidize your awesome food substitute so you're not sinking as much cash into it, more farking power to you.
 
2013-09-11 01:20:58 AM  
Artificial egg? Where have I just read something about that.....

http://www.fark.com/comments/7925348/Its-like-plastic-Easter-eggs-we -h ad-as-children-but-higher-quality-for-masturbating
http://nihongogo.com/2013/09/review-tenga-easy-beat-egg/

nihongogo.com

Well, that may still be a step up for McDonald's, but still, EW!
 
2013-09-11 01:23:27 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

Look, the Daily Mail are one of those publications that somehow have negative expertise on scientific subjects, reading their articles causes you to lose scientific knowledge.

So... back up a second, breathe, and put the pieces together on your own.  This is a project backed by the Gates foundation: they don't give a shiat about how things taste, they're more of a "try to solve world hunger" type of organization.

Now, consider depending on chickens for the portion of your dietary needs covered by eggs, and think about how easily they're, say, stolen or killed in a subsistence agriculture situation (they primary target market of the Gates foundation) versus how easily a set of plants that have to be mixed together are stolen.  Now think about distribution, and spoilage.  Take another breath, and take another moment to consider something that can be made from a combination of plants, compare it to existing egg substitutes that require large amounts of industrial processing, and think again about living in, say, central Africa with a warlord or three between you and every industrialized region.

Long story short: this is an incredibly useful thing.  Stop whinging just because the modern foods designed to keep most of our 6+ billion asses from starving to death doesn't make a perfectly delectable foie gras or whatever, you ridiculous first-world-focused person.

//If there's a demand for your subsistence-level substitute in the first world due to crazy vegans or whatever, and you can get the first-world idiots to subsidize your awesome food substitute so you're not sinking as much cash into it, more farking power to you.


Except they are talking about putting this stuff on market shelves in the first world,  So it should meet our first world focus, shouldn't it?

And seriously, you think an African village that has a "warlord or three between them and every industrialized region" is going to have better access to a industrially produced food source or the eggs they get from the chicken in their back yard? Hell chickens eat bugs and seeds, two really cheap things, when they die they produce meat, when you leave them to their eggs you get more chickens. Now how is a self replicating and sustaining food source cheaper and more efficient then a multiply types of crops from multiply growing regions being chemically processed?
 
2013-09-11 01:25:53 AM  
I haven't tried it, but apparently ground flaxseed and warm water mixed together make a good substitute for eggs in baked goods. I've omitted eggs in cookie and brownie recipes for years with good results. I just don't like them. They creep me out, probably because as a child, my parents kept chickens and I had to collect eggs. Home-fresh eggs have shiat on them, and it's disgusting. The chickens roamed in our yard and ate insects, which apparently made the eggs much darker and they had such a strong flavor you could taste them in anything my parents baked with them: cookies, pancakes, waffles (which my mom once made that were laced with eggshells throughout). I had a bad experience once throwing out the pancakes my dad insisted making every Saturday as a special treat even though I hated them. I snuck them into the garbage, and he made me eat them out of the garbage.

So, I guess I do understand pretty well why I hate eggs now that I think about it.
 
2013-09-11 01:27:32 AM  
panfried:
I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products.  Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...


exactly!!  if they hate meat so much, why would they want to simulate the taste (often through pretty unnatural methods)??

plus, plants are living creatures,  why do they feel it's ok to kill and consume them?!?

hypocrites and morons.
 
2013-09-11 01:27:38 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sim Tree: TwowheelinTim: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.

It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.

citation needed

Jesus Christ, you people are helpless.


Now, now... be nice

/some people are just so poor they can't afford Google
//pity them
 
2013-09-11 01:28:48 AM  

CruJones: I don't care what anyone thinks, McDonalds has a pretty solid breakfast.


i agree with you even if we have to fight back to back in Ming the Merciless's tilting spiked platform against everyone else on Fark.
 
2013-09-11 01:31:48 AM  
NO! I MUST FEAST UPON THE FLESH OF THE UNBORN!! RARARRARRRRGGHH!!!
 
2013-09-11 01:33:01 AM  
I like eggs, but if you've ever been to a battery farm, they're pretty horrible and wasteful.

If these guys can improve on the process, good for them.

Here's a short video.
 
2013-09-11 01:35:51 AM  

HighZoolander: Artificial egg? Where have I just read something about that.....

http://www.fark.com/comments/7925348/Its-like-plastic-Easter-eggs-we -h ad-as-children-but-higher-quality-for-masturbating
http://nihongogo.com/2013/09/review-tenga-easy-beat-egg/

[nihongogo.com image 850x637]

Well, that may still be a step up for McDonald's, but still, EW!


I came for this.  Egg trifecta in play.

/oh yes I did
 
2013-09-11 01:47:31 AM  

Devo37: panfried:
I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products.  Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...


exactly!!  if they hate meat so much, why would they want to simulate the taste (often through pretty unnatural methods)??


Hey, did you know there's a whole article attached to the headline? And you can read it? It's true!
 
2013-09-11 01:57:12 AM  
If it's as cheap or cheaper than eggs, I'll try it.  I like the idea of aioli & Hollandaise that are safer to eat over longer periods of time.
 
2013-09-11 02:13:47 AM  
www.saltedandstyled.com
 
2013-09-11 02:19:38 AM  
Wow!
That must taste as good as the tofu burger!
 
2013-09-11 02:22:24 AM  

Hickory-smoked: Devo37: panfried:
I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products.  Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...


exactly!!  if they hate meat so much, why would they want to simulate the taste (often through pretty unnatural methods)??

Hey, did you know there's a whole article attached to the headline? And you can read it? It's true!


...and the article is about veggies wanting animal-based-type foods without the animals.

again, why is it okay to kill "plants" for your nutrition, but not "animals"??
 
2013-09-11 02:23:08 AM  

oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The fertilizer?


*sigh* Common vent, common vent, common vent people!
Female chickens can be said to have a "vaganus," although the educated refer to it as a cloaca.
Pictures.
 
2013-09-11 02:23:53 AM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

How come when it's us, it's an abortion, and when it's a chicken, it's an omelette?
 
2013-09-11 02:33:31 AM  
Which came first, the vegetable or the egg?
 
2013-09-11 02:35:47 AM  

lasercannon: [www.saltedandstyled.com image 600x448]


That's technically chicken kiddy porn.
 
2013-09-11 02:38:04 AM  

frestcrallen: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 195x152]

How come when it's us, it's an abortion, and when it's a chicken, it's an omelette?


No, that's balut.  The eggs we eat aren't fertilized, so it more like...
 
2013-09-11 02:47:53 AM  

Stepped_In_What: No, that's balut.  The eggs we eat aren't fertilized


George was just being rhetorical, you pedantic eggplant.
 
2013-09-11 03:04:45 AM  

Maul555: UNFERTILIZED CHICKEN EMBRYOS FOREVER!

but if the new stuff is tasty, I am willing to give it a try...   I like to eat things...


I'm right here, sweet cheeks. I bet you didn't get a round mouth by eating square meals.
 
2013-09-11 03:20:07 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ...and a decent amount of good cholesterol

...

This is actually a myth, You cannot get "good cholesterol" from an outside source, especially eggs! In other words, all dietary cholesterol is bad for you.  All "good cholesterol" in manufactured in your own liver, its a fact, look it up.

Here is a video that explains it for you,  Click me!
 
2013-09-11 03:43:04 AM  

Devo37: again, why is it okay to kill "plants" for your nutrition, but not "animals"??


Why is ok for 16-year-olds to drive but not 15-year-olds?

Because you have to draw the line somewhere.
 
2013-09-11 03:44:08 AM  

oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!


Mmmm...rooster jizz....
 
2013-09-11 04:02:57 AM  

ciberido: Devo37: again, why is it okay to kill "plants" for your nutrition, but not "animals"??

Why is ok for 16-year-olds to drive but not 15-year-olds?

Because you have to draw the line somewhere.


Well Science has been saying you should have both, just not in any extreme.
 
2013-09-11 04:45:43 AM  
I used to buy eggs from a corner market that were awesome - big and brown with double yolks.

Then one day I opened a new carton and there was feathers and blood all over them.

Haven't bought eggs since then.
 
2013-09-11 04:50:34 AM  
If you think about it, 'natural' eggs are also made from plants.

=Smidge=
 
2013-09-11 04:55:47 AM  

Max Awesome: I used to buy eggs from a corner market that were awesome - big and brown with double yolks.

Then one day I opened a new carton and there was feathers and blood all over them.

Haven't bought eggs since then.


Two thoughts:

1) How the F does that even happen??? Seriously, WTF????

2) Meh, it shouldn't have affected the quality of the eggs. They're in shells after all.
Consider that well fed chickens lay more nutritious eggs, which look and taste better than the cheap ones.
Besides, you do know that ALL farm chickens enjoy the same retirement plan, right?

1) But again, for emphasis W...T....F....???
 
2013-09-11 05:07:18 AM  
Nutritional information of an egg.   Does this pretend egg have all that.
Nutrition FactsEgg, boiledAmount Per 100 gramsCalories 155% Daily Value*Total fat 11 g16%Saturated fat 3.3 g16%Polyunsaturated fat 1.4 gMonounsaturated fat 4.1 gCholesterol 373 mg124%Sodium 124 mg5%Potassium 126 mg3%Total Carbohydrate 1.1 g0%Dietary fiber 0 g0%Sugar 1.1 gProtein 13 g26%Vitamin A10%Vitamin C0%Calcium5%Iron6%Vitamin B-65%Vitamin B-1218%Magnesium2%
 
2013-09-11 05:42:09 AM  
Bwahahaha. Plants. In a McDonald's product. You're killing me here subby. Tell another.
 
2013-09-11 06:06:27 AM  
So what's going to happen to all the real eggs?
 
2013-09-11 06:07:47 AM  

E5bie: Max Awesome: I used to buy eggs from a corner market that were awesome - big and brown with double yolks.

Then one day I opened a new carton and there was feathers and blood all over them.

Haven't bought eggs since then.

Two thoughts:

1) How the F does that even happen??? Seriously, WTF????

2) Meh, it shouldn't have affected the quality of the eggs. They're in shells after all.
Consider that well fed chickens lay more nutritious eggs, which look and taste better than the cheap ones.
Besides, you do know that ALL farm chickens enjoy the same retirement plan, right?

1) But again, for emphasis W...T....F....???


They must have come from GOP Farms.
 
2013-09-11 06:08:50 AM  

swingerofbirches: I haven't tried it, but apparently ground flaxseed and warm water mixed together make a good substitute for eggs in baked goods. I've omitted eggs in cookie and brownie recipes for years with good results. I just don't like them. They creep me out, probably because as a child, my parents kept chickens and I had to collect eggs. Home-fresh eggs have shiat on them, and it's disgusting. The chickens roamed in our yard and ate insects, which apparently made the eggs much darker and they had such a strong flavor you could taste them in anything my parents baked with them: cookies, pancakes, waffles (which my mom once made that were laced with eggshells throughout). I had a bad experience once throwing out the pancakes my dad insisted making every Saturday as a special treat even though I hated them. I snuck them into the garbage, and he made me eat them out of the garbage.

So, I guess I do understand pretty well why I hate eggs now that I think about it.


Wifey does it as she can't eat eggs. It works well. Kind of like Gluten-free pasta; it is an alternative not a direct replacement.
 
2013-09-11 06:09:45 AM  
rikkards:

Wifey does the flax alternative she can't eat eggs. It works well. Kind of like Gluten-free pasta; it is an alternative not a direct replacement.

Fixed for me
 
2013-09-11 06:16:58 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sim Tree: TwowheelinTim: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.

It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.

citation needed

Jesus Christ, you people are helpless.

Now, now... be nice

/some people are just so poor they can't afford Google
//pity them

It is interesting how a lot of the old myths are being debunked (or not actually scientifically verified through proper testing ( I believe the whole high blood pressure = heart attack is one of them) but you and your doctor* still don't hear about it unless you really go looking. Examples:
Drinking 8 glasses of water a  day
Eating fat makes you fat
Eating food with high cholesterol will give you high cholesterol

*Actually the one thing that shocks me is doctors are not forced to keep their education up to date to keep their right to practice. A lot of other self-regulated practices require it to retain accreditation. Have an old enough doctor and he would be recommending a "hysterical" woman buy a vibrator.
There's more but I won't get into them.
 
2013-09-11 06:26:14 AM  

Arsten: This was my take on it. They made a separate ingredient for two purposes. Are they going to make an "egg substitute" for each and every purpose out there? One for cake, one for cookies, one for meatloaf, one for breading etc etc etc?

That seems like an incredible pain for people who want to actually cook, having 12 different "egg" boxes on hand, but that's just me.


For places that can't get the real thing? Sure. Especially if it takes up much less room (no water for example, or that the shape of an eggs makes it hard to pack without a lot of air gaps). Submarines and smaller ships come to mind. Those guys do a lot of baking every day and if it's just as good for those uses then I say why not. Save the real hen fruit for breakfast. I have yet to taste an egg substitute that matched the real thing. Close sometimes but I could always tell when I was being served plastic eggs.
 
2013-09-11 06:35:20 AM  

Radioactive Ass: no water for example


I should probably expound on that after reading it back. The water content of a raw egg is probably ~66% of volume if not more, add in the odd shape and the need for protective packaging and that kicks it up to a savings of 80% of the space needed to store them. When you have a small galley and limited suitable storage space for raw eggs I could see it being useful if it has the same results as raw eggs in baking.
 
2013-09-11 06:44:07 AM  

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2013-09-11 06:57:54 AM  

I sound fat: Acidicnads: Being a vegan or a vegetarian is a natural. Causes cancer.

Ya know what else causes cancer?  Otters.  Thats what.


I guess I otter cut back then.

But seriously folks: FTFA

Then we become the kind of company to be feared by the bad guys in the industry.'

It all boils down to power with these people.
 
2013-09-11 07:04:12 AM  

Radioactive Ass: Arsten: This was my take on it. They made a separate ingredient for two purposes. Are they going to make an "egg substitute" for each and every purpose out there? One for cake, one for cookies, one for meatloaf, one for breading etc etc etc?

That seems like an incredible pain for people who want to actually cook, having 12 different "egg" boxes on hand, but that's just me.

For places that can't get the real thing? Sure. Especially if it takes up much less room (no water for example, or that the shape of an eggs makes it hard to pack without a lot of air gaps). Submarines and smaller ships come to mind. Those guys do a lot of baking every day and if it's just as good for those uses then I say why not. Save the real hen fruit for breakfast. I have yet to taste an egg substitute that matched the real thing. Close sometimes but I could always tell when I was being served plastic eggs.


In that use, I can see it. But the US Military developed powdered whole eggs a long time ago. Why would they start using this instead of those?
 
2013-09-11 07:12:33 AM  
"...we've trialled our products with everyone from Bill Gates to Tony Blair, both of whom couldn't taste the difference."

Hardly a ringing endorsement.
 
2013-09-11 07:23:29 AM  

Arsten: Radioactive Ass: Arsten: This was my take on it. They made a separate ingredient for two purposes. Are they going to make an "egg substitute" for each and every purpose out there? One for cake, one for cookies, one for meatloaf, one for breading etc etc etc?

That seems like an incredible pain for people who want to actually cook, having 12 different "egg" boxes on hand, but that's just me.

For places that can't get the real thing? Sure. Especially if it takes up much less room (no water for example, or that the shape of an eggs makes it hard to pack without a lot of air gaps). Submarines and smaller ships come to mind. Those guys do a lot of baking every day and if it's just as good for those uses then I say why not. Save the real hen fruit for breakfast. I have yet to taste an egg substitute that matched the real thing. Close sometimes but I could always tell when I was being served plastic eggs.

In that use, I can see it. But the US Military developed powdered whole eggs a long time ago. Why would they start using this instead of those?


Because some Captain/Admiral who wants a cushy job to supplement their retirement issues a sweetheart contract to a favored supplier?
 
2013-09-11 07:25:34 AM  

Sim Tree: TwowheelinTim: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.

It's a common misconception that dietary cholesterol is bad for us. It is not. Your body produces the crap that clogs your arteries, and studies are showing high cholesterol production correlates to high sugar intake.

citation needed


http://examine.com/faq/will-eating-eg gs-increase-my-cholesterol.html
 
2013-09-11 08:02:08 AM  

tjsands1118: tjsands1118: This is stupid, first off the article says they only have an egg substitute for mayo and baking goods. Well first off it's not mayo if there aren't real eggs in it and second it's been done

It's generically called salad dressing

Oh and here's some vegetarian egg substitute.
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Didn't post my picture of miracle whip.
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You realize that Miracle Whip has eggs in it right? Also, it isn't a substitute for mayo, it's simply a different condiment with a completely different taste.
 
2013-09-11 08:10:14 AM  
FTA:

The firm hopes to allow developing countries to grow and produce their own 'plant eggs'.
'In developing countries, we can also add in things missing from the local diet, helping nutrient deficiencies, and we have had initial discussion with the world food programme about this.



I can see value in this.

Otherwise, leave my farking eggs alone!
 
2013-09-11 08:21:15 AM  

oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus  cloaca!


Let's be accurate here!
 
2013-09-11 08:29:52 AM  
Wow. Pathetic. Eggs are one of the best possible foods we can consume. And then making a substitute out of plants, disgusting.
 
2013-09-11 08:41:39 AM  

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

I have yet to taste anything that starts out as a powder turn out like regular scrambled eggs.  These aren't going to do much for the fried egg market, either.

But as an ingredient substitute?  Why not.  Less cholesterol and calories and you won't know the difference.


Maybe, then.  But don't go running around telling me you have a vegetable based artificial egg substitute I really should be using to totally replace eggs until it's true.
 
2013-09-11 08:49:14 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Benevolent Misanthrope: No.  They have an egg substitute for making mayonnaise, and another for cakes.  Nothing to replace scrambled eggs.  Show me the egg substitute that's better for me than eggs, acts like eggs in cooking, makes a decent omelet, and is less expensive than eggs, and I'll consider it.  Until then, STFU.

Look, the Daily Mail are one of those publications that somehow have negative expertise on scientific subjects, reading their articles causes you to lose scientific knowledge.

So... back up a second, breathe, and put the pieces together on your own.  This is a project backed by the Gates foundation: they don't give a shiat about how things taste, they're more of a "try to solve world hunger" type of organization.


Right.  Because so many third-world starvation victims shop at Whole Foods.
 
2013-09-11 09:06:16 AM  

Deep Contact: So what's going to happen to all the real eggs?


Us omnivores will continue to eat them while the vegans eat their tofu and egg substitute.
 
2013-09-11 09:09:27 AM  
HotWingAgenda:  There is no reason for this,

...except for the market there is for people that don't like livestock, dairy, or poultry operations.

(Hint: like the guy quoted in the article, who said that the animal industry is 'broken')

So yes, there is a reason for it--it's called money and appealing to a niche market.
 
2013-09-11 09:11:21 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Right.  Because so many third-world starvation victims shop at Whole Foods.


In a first-world country, that's where you'd market it to make money.

Also, it's a lot easier to do a food drive in a first-world country for starving folks either here or abroad, when the product won't spoil.
 
2013-09-11 09:16:57 AM  

oldfarthenry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: oldfarthenry: I will NOT eat this breakfast unless I'm assured that some part of it came out of a chicken's anus!

The fertilizer?

Fair enough - but I ain't eating that blasphemous `turkey' bacon!


The trick is having "turkey pepperoni bacon" instead of the 'turkey bacon'.
Find the turkey pepperoni (for pizzas) and then nuke them until they've started to bubble and get crunchy.  Much closer to real bacon (even if they're circular) than the turkey bacon which is really just fried bologna.
 
2013-09-11 09:26:43 AM  

E5bie: Max Awesome: I used to buy eggs from a corner market that were awesome - big and brown with double yolks.

Then one day I opened a new carton and there was feathers and blood all over them.

Haven't bought eggs since then.

Two thoughts:

1) How the F does that even happen??? Seriously, WTF????

2) Meh, it shouldn't have affected the quality of the eggs. They're in shells after all.
Consider that well fed chickens lay more nutritious eggs, which look and taste better than the cheap ones.
Besides, you do know that ALL farm chickens enjoy the same retirement plan, right?

1) But again, for emphasis W...T....F....???


There are a couple reasons for it. Depending on where he was getting the eggs from, if it was a good local chicken owner, it was probably nothing. Sometimes the eggs can come out bigger than other eggs (kind of like how sizes can vary between siblings at birth) it can stretch the "vent" of the hen. Or, if the layer is laying for the first time, it takes a little while for the vent to stretch enough where the layer is at east (again, kinda similar to humans). So a little bit of blood and feathers isn't that big of a concern, unless the layer is consistently having that problem, or blood is actually visible on the hen's vent.

If it was like, someone splashed blood over the collected carton of eggs, then that's something else. But perhaps I wouldn't buy eggs from a chicken owner that didn't wash it a little before marketing.

Anyways. Was just trying to tell you it can occur. Usually the blood spots are small, but at any rate, it is not that alarming.
 
2013-09-11 09:41:15 AM  

Smidge204: If you think about it, 'natural' eggs are also made from plants.

=Smidge=


THAT'S THE YOLK
 
2013-09-11 10:04:31 AM  
FTFA: The firm hopes to allow developing countries to grow and produce their own 'plant eggs'.

'In developing countries, we can also add in things missing from the local diet, helping nutrient deficiencies, and we have had initial discussion with the world food programme about this.

'What we want to do eventually is find a way to work with farmers in the developing world to enable them to have new cash crops that can be used. Then we become the kind of company to be feared by the bad guys in the industry.


I am not an expert on the subject, but wouldn't planting huge fields of plants to process into an egg substitute be a lot more difficult and expensive for a developing than just getting a bunch of hens and farming eggs ?
 
2013-09-11 10:14:32 AM  
heavymetal:  but wouldn't planting huge fields of plants to process into an egg substitute be a lot more difficult and expensive for a developing than just getting a bunch of hens and farming eggs ?

Not if you have super cheap labor available.

Chickens require maintenance and a level of security, if you're anywhere near where coyotes, stray dogs, raccoons, etc are. Which is pretty much everywhere. So it has a consistent level of input, too.
 
2013-09-11 11:41:02 AM  

GORDON: What a useless, worthless invention.  The people who spent time working on that should feel bad for wasting their lives.


Not to go all Malthus on you, but there will come a day when the population of the earth exceeds our ability to grow food in the necessary quantitities.  It would have happened in the early part of the 20th century if the same guy who pioneer the use of chemical weapons hadn't first snagged a nobel prize for the process that creates ammonia  from atmospheric nitrogen, thus making artifical fertilizers possible.   When that day comes, domestic animals will be the first to go, as they are very wasteful in terms of amount of energy need to create a calorie of useable food.  You might be very glad of plant-based eggs substitutes in you 70's and 80's
 
2013-09-11 12:29:27 PM  
No, no, and hell no

/no
//f**k off
 
2013-09-11 12:44:00 PM  
I Can't Believe It's Not Eggs tm
 
2013-09-11 01:01:08 PM  
Wow they fixed a problem that wasn't.
 
2013-09-11 01:17:53 PM  
Dreyelle:

Wow they fixed a problem that wasn't.

I'm the most carnivorous person I know, but this still benefits me. Why? Because I like to cook, and some of my friends are vegan. So if I want to invite a mix of vegan and omnivorous friends over for dinner, I can still make egg bread or french silk pie without saying "sorry, you can't eat this" to some of my guests.

I don't get why people get so negatively wound up in threads whenever a vegan substitute gets developed... It's more options for me. I'm an omnivore who sometimes makes vegan dishes.
 
2013-09-11 01:36:01 PM  
It's an obvious scam. They state "We can make really good mayonnaise". No such thing exists!
 
2013-09-11 01:43:36 PM  

TwowheelinTim: panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance.  You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal.  I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine.  ;-/

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.


That's what always confounded me.
"We took plants and processed the everloving crap out of them with all sorts of crap, no animals tho so healthy and natural."
That and always trying to make things taste like various meats.
 
2013-09-11 01:58:03 PM  

Arsten: In that use, I can see it. But the US Military developed powdered whole eggs a long time ago. Why would they start using this instead of those?


Because it tastes like crappy plastic eggs and can't be used for baking apparently. That's why I mentioned real eggs for egg dishes and powdered eggs formulated for baking that would help save space where space is at a premium.
 
2013-09-11 02:08:56 PM  

E5bie: Max Awesome: I used to buy eggs from a corner market that were awesome - big and brown with double yolks.

Then one day I opened a new carton and there was feathers and blood all over them.

Haven't bought eggs since then.

Two thoughts:

1) How the F does that even happen??? Seriously, WTF????

2) Meh, it shouldn't have affected the quality of the eggs. They're in shells after all.
Consider that well fed chickens lay more nutritious eggs, which look and taste better than the cheap ones.
Besides, you do know that ALL farm chickens enjoy the same retirement plan, right?

1) But again, for emphasis W...T....F....???


They were in unlabelled cartons sitting next to the cash resister in a family-run asian market so I figured they were probably straight from the farm without any pesky government inspectors or oversight. I should have known better.

I felt awful for the poor chicken that laid them though. Those suckers were HUGE.
 
2013-09-11 03:13:18 PM  
Luse:

TwowheelinTim: panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance. You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal. I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine. ;-/

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.

That's what always confounded me.
"We took plants and processed the everloving crap out of them with all sorts of crap, no animals tho so healthy and natural."
That and always trying to make things taste like various meats.


"this move to force veganism on everyone" strikes me as about as successful as the move to force Sharia law on Alabama and about as worrisome. Indeed, not even that.

So far as processing the everloving crap out of things...

Not everyone cares about "healthy or natural," as evidenced by the crap put into EVERYTHING that people still buy. Ever read the ingredients on things you have in your pantry right now, including the stuff that would qualify as vegan?

I don't worry about why some people won't eat certain things. Why doesn't a 10-year old like broccoli? Heck, I won't eat crustaceans because I know what they eat, even though some people think they're a delicacy. I've eaten exactly one fried tarantula and that was enough, I don't plan to eat any more. I grew up on a farm and know from birth to death how lambs live before they're slaughtered and cut up to make tasty, tasty lamb chops, and I'll eat the hell out of them anyway.

I've never questioned vegan friends as to *why* they will or will not eat things. And that may be why I've never gotten lectured on the reason and smug or moral issues were never involved.

Personally, I like having more options. See my above post.
 
2013-09-11 03:38:06 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Because it tastes like crappy plastic eggs and can't be used for baking apparently. That's why I mentioned real eggs for egg dishes and powdered eggs formulated for baking that would help save space where space is at a premium.


The taste I can't comment on, but you can use powdered eggs for baking. It's something like 2 tablespoons of powder for a "large egg" mixed with a 1/4 cup of water. And then you pour your "egg" into your batter. In fact, I would think that it would be best for baking to avoid the horrid taste you speak of.

Like I said, I can't comment on the taste as I've never been....lucky enough to try them.
 
2013-09-11 03:41:29 PM  

Devo37: Hickory-smoked: Devo37: panfried:
I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products.  Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...


exactly!!  if they hate meat so much, why would they want to simulate the taste (often through pretty unnatural methods)??

Hey, did you know there's a whole article attached to the headline? And you can read it? It's true!

...and the article is about veggies wanting animal-based-type foods without the animals.

again, why is it okay to kill "plants" for your nutrition, but not "animals"??


You're trying to appear as if one can't recognize the health, environmental, and ethical consequences of Industrial Battery Farming without also being a hardcore Jainist.

I don't know if you're being a troll, per se, but I see no reason to treat your question as serious.
 
2013-09-11 04:06:26 PM  
Hickory-smoked:

Devo37: Hickory-smoked: Devo37: panfried:
I never understood the vast lengths they go to in order to imitate the flavor,texture and mouth-feel of animal products. Why not instead have a nice gourd steak, a spaghetti squash- spaghetti plate etc...


exactly!! if they hate meat so much, why would they want to simulate the taste (often through pretty unnatural methods)??

Hey, did you know there's a whole article attached to the headline? And you can read it? It's true!

...and the article is about veggies wanting animal-based-type foods without the animals.

again, why is it okay to kill "plants" for your nutrition, but not "animals"??


Go on... Ask his/her meaty self why he wouldn't sit down to a heaping helping of roast dog from Vietnam, or a pile of Cambodian burrowing tarantulas fried in peanut oil and Knorr chicken seasoning ($7 US / a dozen!), or a roast Guinea Pig from South America, or, horse, or whale steak...

People are allowed to set their own limits on what they eat, last I checked. Push them into a corner, yeah, they might come up with moral arguments. But in the end, again, why would a child hate broccoli? Is it going to help you if it's some high moral principle? Does it actually matter?
 
2013-09-11 04:34:10 PM  

maxheck: Luse:

TwowheelinTim: panfried: This move to force veganism on everyone is alarming. Top of the food chain also means dominance over the wild, untamed vermin who will seize the top title if given the chance. You enjoy becoming the chickens breakfast, the sheeps sex slave or giving up your breast milk for a cows bowl of cereal. I, my friend, will continue to dine at the table of man, feast at the banquet of conquest. Yeah, I will savor the flesh of those who would seek to savor mine. ;-/

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything here. If you understand how evolution works, keep eating a healthy omnivorous diet, and let the fools starve themselves to death.

On a side note, have you ever read the ingredient list on a typical vegan substitute *whatever*? That's some freaky $#!+ there.

That's what always confounded me.
"We took plants and processed the everloving crap out of them with all sorts of crap, no animals tho so healthy and natural."
That and always trying to make things taste like various meats.

"this move to force veganism on everyone" strikes me as about as successful as the move to force Sharia law on Alabama and about as worrisome. Indeed, not even that.

So far as processing the everloving crap out of things...

Not everyone cares about "healthy or natural," as evidenced by the crap put into EVERYTHING that people still buy. Ever read the ingredients on things you have in your pantry right now, including the stuff that would qualify as vegan?

I don't worry about why some people won't eat certain things. Why doesn't a 10-year old like broccoli? Heck, I won't eat crustaceans because I know what they eat, even though some people think they're a delicacy. I've eaten exactly one fried tarantula and that was enough, I don't plan to eat any more. I grew up on a farm and know from birth to death how lambs live before they're slaughtered and cut up to make tasty, tasty lamb chops, and I'll eat the hell out of them anyway.

I've never questioned vegan friends as to *why* they will or will not eat things. And that may be why I've never gotten lectured on the reason and smug or moral issues were never involved.

Personally, I like having more options. See my above post.


Actually looking at my pantry is what made me choose the natural, healthy diet. My meat comes from a butcher or hunter, my vegies are fresh, not canned etc. If that means no tomatoes this week, oh well.

As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.
I am all for choice. Quinoa, rice or taters is a choice.
Compressed, superheated, chemically treated plant stuff shaped, dyed and flavored to taste like meat is crap.
 
2013-09-11 05:36:07 PM  

Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.


You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.
 
2013-09-11 06:31:56 PM  

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.


Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point.

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process.  The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".
 
2013-09-11 06:57:35 PM  
Luse

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.

Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process. The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".


What exactly were you trying to warn us about?

Chicken shiat is rather a big issue anywhere chickens are bred. As in Megatons and major pollution laws. Fortunately there are chicken breeders that convert chicken shiat into natural gas to heat chicken coops.
 
2013-09-11 07:05:24 PM  

maxheck: Luse

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.

Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process. The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".

What exactly were you trying to warn us about?

Chicken shiat is rather a big issue anywhere chickens are bred. As in Megatons and major pollution laws. Fortunately there are chicken breeders that convert chicken shiat into natural gas to heat chicken coops.


Hickory seemed to imply that all that comes from chickens is chicken shiat with no benefits. On the other hand these "fake eggs" apparently are created from "vegetable oil" powered only by magic and unicorn farts. He also implied that the only motivation the company has is clean rivers.
I don't know what smells worse, his disingenuous argument, your lack of comprehension or the unicorn farts.
 
2013-09-11 07:26:38 PM  
I'm usually a nice guy, but... yes. Let's just do this in your own words:

Luse:

maxheck: Luse

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.

Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process. The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".

What exactly were you trying to warn us about?

Chicken shiat is rather a big issue anywhere chickens are bred. As in Megatons and major pollution laws. Fortunately there are chicken breeders that convert chicken shiat into natural gas to heat chicken coops.

Hickory seemed to imply that all that comes from chickens is chicken shiat with no benefits. On the other hand these "fake eggs" apparently are created from "vegetable oil" powered only by magic and unicorn farts. He also implied that the only motivation the company has is clean rivers.
I don't know what smells worse, his disingenuous argument, your lack of comprehension or the unicorn farts.
 
2013-09-11 07:30:56 PM  

maxheck: I'm usually a nice guy, but... yes. Let's just do this in your own words:

Luse:

maxheck: Luse

Hickory-smoked: Luse: As far as asking, I never do. I have had plenty of people offer their opinions however. They frquently involve the words, "savage, murder, chicken embryos". They normally culminate with a statement that my diet is "unnatural and unhealthy" all the while pushing their overly processed plant matter, shaped and flavored to resemble meat.

You'll notice that isn't happening in this particular case, though. Hampton Creek Farms is just looking for unprocessed plant oils that let you bake muffins without clogging rivers with chicken shiat.

Eggs = Chicken shiat. See, you couldn't get out 2 sentences without proving my point

Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process. The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".

What exactly were you trying to warn us about?

Chicken shiat is rather a big issue anywhere chickens are bred. As in Megatons and major pollution laws. Fortunately there are chicken breeders that convert chicken shiat into natural gas to heat chicken coops.

Hickory seemed to imply that all that comes from chickens is chicken shiat with no benefits. On the other hand these "fake eggs" apparently are created from "vegetable oil" powered only by magic and unicorn farts. He also implied that the only motivation the company has is clean rivers.
I don't know what smells worse, his disingenuous argument, your lack of comprehension or the unicorn fart ...


Not quite sure where you're going with simply re-quoting the whole post. Perhaps you haven't read the whole thread and therefore don't see that I am responding to more than one question of more than one person?
 
2013-09-11 07:39:23 PM  
assets.inhabitots.com

This costs me $.99.  Maybe $1.50 at most.  Why the hell would I buy some veggie product BS?  And I sure as hell don't want them in my Egg McMuffins.
 
2013-09-11 08:10:39 PM  
You know what else is a vegetable substitute for eggs in baking?

One teaspoon of soy flour plus a tablespoon of water.

I wonder what this new miracle product consists of?

Here's a whole webpage of egg substitutes:

http://vegweb.com/recipes/egg-substitutes

Then again, I wonder what Dream Whip(TM) is made of? I'm guessing that is not made of dreams or whips. And that it can't legally be called mayonnaise because that is a mixture of egg, lemon and milk.

Some plants used as egg substitutes according to various sources including the article and the website above:

apple sauce or other fruit puree
bananas
soybeans
potatoes
tapioca
flax seed
psyllium seed
peas
xanthum gum
vegetable oil
vegetable shortening
yeast (not a plant)
vinegar (made from grapes, apples, etc.)
pumpkin, apricot, prune puree
silken tofu (soyabean again

Other:
water
baking soda
baking powder
lecithin (various sources, see above)
 
2013-09-11 08:14:49 PM  
I seldom keep eggs or milk on hand, so I use powdered substutes whenever possible.

I love hard-boiled eggs but don't really feel much need for scrambled, omelettes, etc. Restaurants generally don't do hard-boiled eggs because it takes longer and you need another pot. They tend to soft-boil them or take forever delivering them to the table, so I make do with over-easy, which at least means a real egg.
 
2013-09-12 01:23:27 AM  

Luse: Please, tell us exactly how much better their product is for the environment. Start by providing the amount of land and soil type necessary for the raw plant matter. The amount and source of fertilizer and pesticides used, the carbon footprint of the machinery used for planting, cultivating and harvesting of these items, not to mention the "heat and pressure" part of the process.  The list of every chemical used in the processing of them to turn them into the final product. T

You can't, because you don't know. It's much easier to go on the net and quite literally refer to a product as "shiat".


I think you misunderstand me. If you read even a little bit about the major battery farms in the US, you'll see that the shiat I'm referring to is quite literal. There are multiple major rivers in the Midwest with severe contamination issues from chicken waste.

Now, do I have inputs for land use, chemicals, pesticides, or carbon-footprints for all the vegetable-based replacements being proposed? No, I don't. Obviously. But if those are issues you personally care about, you should again take another hard look at what's required to produce 79 billion eggs a year. Unless they end up clearcutting the Amazon for rare orchid nectar, it would be literally impossible to do worse than factory farms.

Finally, may I suggest switching to a decaffeinated brand? You seem very angry and combative for no clear reason.
 
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