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2013-09-10 11:49:31 PM

RatMaster999: Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years executed for homicide

FTFY


FFS guys these are middle school girls
 
2013-09-10 11:50:16 PM

ZeroCorpse: Last Man on Earth: x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch."  Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is.  He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

http://youtu.be/Ja0KKoPr9Ik

Sounds like ki ki ki ma ma ma to me.


Eh, if I'm listening for it, I can maybe see it.  At most, though, it sounds like kh kh kh kh sh sh sh sh.  Like a rough crunching sound followed by a sharp, raspy shh-ing sound.  If it is "ki ki ki," it's definitely not pronounced like "key."  Or are the "ki"s supposed to be the analogue to the "ch/sh" sound?  Because I can hear that a little better.
 
2013-09-10 11:50:42 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: RatMaster999: Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years executed for homicide

FTFY

FFS guys these are middle school girls


Im going to tell Jason your vagina smells
 
2013-09-10 11:50:55 PM
A Lakeland mom said her 12-year-old daughter took her life Monday because she was sick of being cyber-bullied by a group of five or six middle school girls.

Here's a thought. Don't let a middle grade school girl get on the internet. Sad.
 
2013-09-10 11:51:41 PM
Norman says this fall Becca had been attending a new school and when her family would ask her how she was doing, she claimed all was well.
 However, Becca's older sister says a few weeks ago Becca changed her user name on the Ask.Fm app to "that dead girl" and begin saying things about possibly disappearing.

Well that's some grade A sisterin' right there.  Nope, don't need to tell anybody about those warning signs.
I'm not sure if the solution here is to cber-bully the older sister, or to sue her along with the school.
 
2013-09-10 11:51:45 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: RatMaster999: Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years executed for homicide

FTFY

FFS guys these are middle school girls


Exactly. Jesus.

70 to 80 years, minimum.
 
2013-09-10 11:52:03 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: FFS guys these are middle school girls


You're right. Everyone needs to take a step back and look at this from a fair and just perspective.

Summary execution with a rope from the tallest oak tree in the county. Shootin' is too good for their kind.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:10 PM

Last Man on Earth: x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch."  Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is.  He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.


It sounds like ki ki ki ki  when you're wearing a hockey mask.
Oh and charge the administrators that failed to do anything with child abuse.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:14 PM

EmmaLou: Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan.  I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do.  In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap.  I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.


It's a double edged sword. I do feel awful that bullying no longer has any boundaries.

At the same time, the internet also makes it possible for odd kids in small towns to find out that in the whole world there ARE other people like them, and like them for who they are.

Of course, those people are probably pedophiles.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:20 PM
Awful piece of uninformative, opportunistic word waste.


Ron:A girl who was exposed to harsh vocabulary from her teenage schoolmates is found dead, we can spin it into a "death from bullying" right away or shall we wait a little longer, you know for fact checking and stuff?
Tracy:"What did the police say?"
Ron: "They have nothing"
Tracy: "Go for it, and don't forget to write grammatically ambiguous sentences so it looks like she was processing evidences after her death"
Ron:"Ah yeah, I always forget about the zombie evidence processors, thanks!"

/Sad for the little one
//Sad for journalism
 
2013-09-10 11:53:45 PM

Precision Boobery: Mother says her 12 year-old daughter killed herself because students at Crystal Lake Middle School were bullying her and the administration did nothing to stop it.

So, it was a protest?


I literally, and literally literally - not figurative literally, let out an entirely inappropriate and wholly reflexive guffaw to that. Thank you.

That is spectacular.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:52 PM

serial_crusher: Norman says this fall Becca had been attending a new school and when her family would ask her how she was doing, she claimed all was well.
 However, Becca's older sister says a few weeks ago Becca changed her user name on the Ask.Fm app to "that dead girl" and begin saying things about possibly disappearing.

Well that's some grade A sisterin' right there.  Nope, don't need to tell anybody about those warning signs.
I'm not sure if the solution here is to cber-bully the older sister, or to sue her along with the school.


How much money in her piggy bank?
 
2013-09-10 11:55:33 PM

Acidicnads: Almost Everybody Poops: RatMaster999: Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years executed for homicide

FTFY

FFS guys these are middle school girls

Im going to tell Jason your vagina smells


wha......?

*kills self*
 
2013-09-10 11:57:15 PM

x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"


What, Manfredini is a 9 year old Korean Starcraft player?
 
2013-09-11 12:05:24 AM
Arguments over the music aside, I have what might be a stupid question:  Regular bullying I get, but in the case of cyber-bullying, what control does the school have over it, exactly?  If the bullying is taking place outside of school grounds and not during the school day, I wouldn't think the school would have any real power.  If a complaint is filed, they could maybe contact the parents of the bullies, but I don't think they have the authority to enact any real school punishments for extracurricular actions.  "Negligence" implies that they could have and should have done more to prevent or reduce the harm, but what could they realistically have done?
 
2013-09-11 12:07:49 AM

x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"


I think the headline references Disturbed's Into The Fire. His GF committed suicide, so...it seemed a bit apt, if weird.
 
2013-09-11 12:09:30 AM
Okay odd idea, but what if we take a step back in techonolgy in kids and not allow them to have smart phones or use social media until they're eighteen? I mean most states a minor can't sign a binding contract without parental consent, and a end user agreement is sort of like a binding contract. Also I honestly believe phones are making people stupid.
 
2013-09-11 12:09:37 AM

Last Man on Earth: ZeroCorpse: Last Man on Earth: x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch."  Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is.  He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

http://youtu.be/Ja0KKoPr9Ik

Sounds like ki ki ki ma ma ma to me.

Eh, if I'm listening for it, I can maybe see it.  At most, though, it sounds like kh kh kh kh sh sh sh sh.  Like a rough crunching sound followed by a sharp, raspy shh-ing sound.  If it is "ki ki ki," it's definitely not pronounced like "key."  Or are the "ki"s supposed to be the analogue to the "ch/sh" sound?  Because I can hear that a little better.


No, it's not supposed to be a "key" sound, but "ki" as in "kill". It's supposed to be "Kill Kill Kill Mom Mom Mom", but abbreviated and muffled. You can't hear the "m" on the "ma ma ma" on anything but the very first syllable of the "ma ma ma", so it's more like kih-kih-kih ma-ah-ah.
 
2013-09-11 12:10:40 AM

Kenny B: A Lakeland mom said her 12-year-old daughter took her life Monday because she was sick of being cyber-bullied by a group of five or six middle school girls.

Here's a thought. Don't let a middle grade school girl get on the internet. Sad.


Since my childhood growing up was the greatest off all time and everyone should be like me, I suggest that we stagger access to the internet for children the same way someone born in the mid 80's got the internet.
0-6 yrs (pK-2nd grade) There is no internet, you only get to use Encyclopedia Brittanica or Encarta
7-12 (3rd-6th grade) You can access the internet, but you have to use a web crawler that limits  you to a few sites that are all relatively safe.  It takes 5 minutes to download a 10 second audio file of an elephant making an elephant noise
13-16 (7th-HS Jr) You get instant messenger, and pretty much most of the internet
17-18 (HS Jr/Sr) You get Myspace
19-23 You get all of the social media bullshiat
24 You get a phone that will allow you to access the internet from anywhere
25 You can rent a car, and your insurance premiums go down

/mostly serious
 
2013-09-11 12:10:49 AM

tjsands1118: Okay odd idea, but what if we take a step back in techonolgy in kids and not allow them to have smart phones or use social media until they're eighteen? I mean most states a minor can't sign a binding contract without parental consent, and a end user agreement is sort of like a binding contract. Also I honestly believe phones are making people stupid.


OMG LOL STFU.
 
2013-09-11 12:11:08 AM

tjsands1118: Also I honestly believe phones are making people stupid.


In reality, they'd be making them more intelligent as they place a great amount of information for decision making at the fingertips of any person in the range of a cell tower. Maybe  ignorant, but not stupid.
 
2013-09-11 12:11:20 AM

Almost Everybody Poops: RatMaster999: Acidicnads: I hope the other middle school girls who did this to her are tried as adults and put in prison for 20 to 30 years executed for homicide

FTFY

FFS guys these are middle school girls


Exactly.  They're old enough to know better.
 
2013-09-11 12:12:22 AM
I have two young daughters and am absolutely dreading middle school. I hated it, it was miserable and the girls were like a pack of wolves, but the internet was pretty basic and there was no easily-accessible social media. Once I got home, I was safe. What it will be like for my daughters if they're like I was, I can't imagine. But realistically, these other girls are also 12. They're vicious little beasts but they're kind of programmed to be that way. They're unlikely to really get the import of what happened to their victim for years. I also think that no matter how hounded someone has been, filing charges against someone because of someone else's suicide is a horrible precedent. If I, at age 12, had seen young suicides being canonized as victims and their bullies being pursued through the courts, well ... I'm not sure that the "It gets better" message would have been the one I took away from it.
 
2013-09-11 12:12:51 AM

bdub77: tjsands1118: Okay odd idea, but what if we take a step back in techonolgy in kids and not allow them to have smart phones or use social media until they're eighteen? I mean most states a minor can't sign a binding contract without parental consent, and a end user agreement is sort of like a binding contract. Also I honestly believe phones are making people stupid.

OMG LOL STFU.


I know like right? This Jerk wad should totally shut up. I bet he's like gay or something.
 
2013-09-11 12:12:56 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.


Yes. That problem is the lack of jarts and smoking in bars, the end of fun playground equipment and the birth of helmet laws, the limits on magazine and diet soda sizes.

We've lost our masculine side!

To rectify the situation, every woman in America will be issued a mustache and a six pack of beer and all TV stations will only play football and hockey games during prime time for the next two weeks.
 
2013-09-11 12:14:32 AM
Great parenting there not just having her give up the internet (even for a while) until the idiotic bullies move on. Because we all know, you cannot turn off internet devices or anything.
 
2013-09-11 12:17:48 AM

tjsands1118: Okay odd idea, but what if we take a step back in techonolgy in kids and not allow them to have smart phones or use social media until they're eighteen? I mean most states a minor can't sign a binding contract without parental consent, and a end user agreement is sort of like a binding contract. Also I honestly believe phones are making people stupid.


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!

There's NO DAMNED REASON a 12-year-old needs to be on Facebook, Ask.fm, or ANY other social media site. If they want to be social, let them do it in person, or by writing to pen pals, or by talking on a phone in the living room (not in their own room).

All this social media is farking with kids' heads. It's giving them WAY too much freedom WAY too early. They're forming social ties they shouldn't have to deal with until many years later, and these social ties come with the antagonistic force of the Internet's anonymity behind them.

The family computer should be in the family room where EVERYONE can see what you're doing online. Kids should not have a computer in their room. They should not have Internet access in their room AT ALL until they're older teens.

And 12-year-old kids shouldn't have smartphones and data plans. Any parent that gives their kids unlimited access to the Internet is asking for cyberbullying, sexting, snuff videos, porn, and other things to be in their kids' reach 24/7. Kids are smart enough to get there if you give them access.

But most of all, it's the social media crap that is causing the most damage. How many times do we need to see 12-year-olds end up on the wrong side of things or running wild because they got into something on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.? YOUR KID DOES NOT NEED THEIR OWN ACCOUNT FOR ANY SOCIAL MEDIA.
 
2013-09-11 12:18:02 AM
My wife is a school counselor, and apparently ask.fm is the 'Nam of social media.  Kids who are bullied come to her all the time and are more than happy to tell her what someone posted on their facebook, tumblr, instagram, whatever.  But if she asks about ask.fm they clam up.  It's "I don't want to talk about it, but there were some things..." She's shown it to me and it's basically burning village after burning village, babies hacked in pieces, animals turned inside out and hung by their intestines.  It can't be unseen.
 
2013-09-11 12:20:29 AM

bdub77: RogermcAllen: How do kids get away with this stuff nowadays?  If me or any of my fellow students even thought about calling someone a biatch we would be in for a world of shiat.  Here there is physical evidence of someone calling someone else a biatch and nothing.

Spare the lash, spoil the child.

/they didn't actually hit most of us in the 80's, but the threat of such actually meant something

I really don't buy into the whole you have to beat your kid nonsense. You do however have to threaten and back up your threats with action. Like, 'oh hey i heard you were bullying a kid in school, your cell phone has been cut off and you're grounded for a month and no allowance.' And then follow that up with a real talk about what it means to bully someone.

And you have to give your kid some independence to make the right decisions, but when they make the wrong ones you best back your sh*t up.


And when that doesn't work "because, like, OMG my parents are suuuch d-bags!"?

I've swatted my daughter twice, to teach her "no", and when that didn't work with no hitting, tapped her on the face when "no hit" didn't work (2yr olds can throw a helluva backhand). I agree with your parenting style, after going to a mandatory "cool your shiat" course, but this...no. If I found out my daughter was a bully, especially having been one/let myself be so, I'd do just exactly what my dad did: let/find the biggest, meanest, ugliest mofo I know and let her/him push her around until she actually feared for her life. There's a time for parenting, then there's a time for laying down the Golden Rule Handbook right upside the head.
 
2013-09-11 12:23:03 AM

ZeroCorpse: Last Man on Earth: ZeroCorpse: Last Man on Earth: x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch."  Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is.  He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

http://youtu.be/Ja0KKoPr9Ik

Sounds like ki ki ki ma ma ma to me.

Eh, if I'm listening for it, I can maybe see it.  At most, though, it sounds like kh kh kh kh sh sh sh sh.  Like a rough crunching sound followed by a sharp, raspy shh-ing sound.  If it is "ki ki ki," it's definitely not pronounced like "key."  Or are the "ki"s supposed to be the analogue to the "ch/sh" sound?  Because I can hear that a little better.

No, it's not supposed to be a "key" sound, but "ki" as in "kill". It's supposed to be "Kill Kill Kill Mom Mom Mom", but abbreviated and muffled. You can't hear the "m" on the "ma ma ma" on anything but the very first syllable of the "ma ma ma", so it's more like kih-kih-kih ma-ah-ah.


Great explanation.
 
2013-09-11 12:26:56 AM

brobinson2001: And when that doesn't work "because, like, OMG my parents are suuuch d-bags!"?


Well first off I made a mistake to begin with. My kid isn't getting a goddamn cell phone at age 12.

Having said that, she's young but I'm pretty sure she's not gonna be a bully. If she is, her 'd-bag parents' are going to find some outlets for her aggression, Mr. Miyagi style. And I'm not entirely against hitting as a final nuclear option.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:07 AM
My kid is getting a phone, but it's not going to be a full-featured one. It's going to be a severely limited dumb phone from a few years ago. It will be used to make calls to emergency services, parents, grandparents, school (if necessary) and friends for the purpose of arranging get-togethers and sleepovers.

But no kid under 17 needs a smartphone. Any parent who supplies a data plan to their kids along with a smartphone is asking for trouble.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:27 AM

69gnarkill69: EmmaLou: Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan.  I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do.  In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap.  I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.

Yeah, turning off the phone and PC is hard.  If everyone that gets bullied killed themselves we would cease to exist.  Some people have issues that they can't get over and we are quick to blame outside influences for what is often poor parenting.  Not sure if that is the case here, but I'm finding it harder and harder to find sympathy anymore, nobody accepts any responsibilities.


So you expect the girl to be isolated from the world to avoid the bullies?  You're a fark-tard.
 
2013-09-11 12:36:35 AM

ZeroCorpse: make calls to emergency services, parents, grandparents, school (if necessary) and friends for the purpose of arranging get-togethers and sleepovers.


In reality, your teen is going to be using it to arrange sneaking out of the house at 3 in the morning to get laid. :)

OgreMagi: So you expect the girl to be isolated from the world to avoid the bullies?  You're a fark-tard.


He smells like "bullying builds character" troll.
 
2013-09-11 12:38:16 AM

EmmaLou: Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan.  I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do.  In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap.  I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.


Who are you kidding.  Women are like this at every age, more so when they are menstruating.  Although they do become more emotionally stable after menopause.
 
2013-09-11 12:39:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: This proliferation of single-parent homes in which the mother is the only one taking care of the children and fathers are only around 2 weekends a month is not only disastrous to boys, but it's also catastrophic to young girls. Without a strong, stabilizing force like a father in the home, these children are raised by mercurial women who are stretched to the limit between supporting the household by working and managing the household after work.

Who was there to talk to this girl when the bullying got too bad? Who was there to tell her that girls are idiots (no offense intended) and that this kind of stuff will pass eventually? Who was there to consider moving to another district to get her out of that poisonous school?

"I blame myself" says this girl's mother. But you can't blame the mother for everything that happened. She's at her wit's end as it is, juggling a career and motherhood.

It's tragic and indicative of a much deeper problem in American society.


This.
 
2013-09-11 12:46:37 AM
good the fewer humans, I'm looking at you breeders

/4 1/2 reasons for retroactive abortion
 
2013-09-11 12:47:17 AM

ZeroCorpse: Last Man on Earth: x23: it is 'ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma' ... the composer himself thinks anyone thinking it is 'ch ch ch ch ah ah ah' are raging morons.

Manfredini says, "Everybody thinks it's cha, cha, cha. I'm like, 'Cha, cha, cha? What are you talking about?'"

I've always heard "kah kah kah kah, ch ch ch ch."  Also, it doesn't matter what the composer intended, it doesn't magically change what the sound actually is.  He may have WANTED it to sound like "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma," but that's not how it came out.

http://youtu.be/Ja0KKoPr9Ik

Sounds like ki ki ki ma ma ma to me.


I hear ki-ki-ki-ki ah-ah-ah-ah
 
2013-09-11 12:47:52 AM
What some ppl aren't factoring in is the OTHER kids at school with internet access are telling her. "You won't believe what Suzie said about you on Facebook last night!" Or even worse is those same kids in a mock whisper as this girl walks to her locker "I read on FB last night she'll let boys do anything with her for $5!!" or whatever their demented 12 year old minds come up with. As that gets spread around the school (and we all know how the game telephone works) it makes no difference if her mom unplugged the computer or not, she still got the brunt of all the hate those kids could send her way...
 
2013-09-11 12:48:04 AM

hardinparamedic: ZeroCorpse: make calls to emergency services, parents, grandparents, school (if necessary) and friends for the purpose of arranging get-togethers and sleepovers.

In reality, your teen is going to be using it to arrange sneaking out of the house at 3 in the morning to get laid. :)


You assume I won't be up at 3 in the morning, or that the alarm won't go off when he opens the window.

And either way, I'm talking about when he's 12, not when he's 16. With his mother's agreement, I'd be fine with him having girls (or boys, if that's what he prefers) in his room when he's 16. He won't  need  to sneak out to have sex. As far as I know, we're going to allow him a private, safe and secure environment to explore his sexuality. We aren't going to teach him to be ashamed of sex.

And I'd have the same attitude toward a daughter, if I ever have one.

/But no teen of mine is getting a computer in their bedroom until they're 17 years old.
 
2013-09-11 12:55:08 AM

haolegirl: What some ppl aren't factoring in is the OTHER kids at school with internet access are telling her. "You won't believe what Suzie said about you on Facebook last night!" Or even worse is those same kids in a mock whisper as this girl walks to her locker "I read on FB last night she'll let boys do anything with her for $5!!" or whatever their demented 12 year old minds come up with. As that gets spread around the school (and we all know how the game telephone works) it makes no difference if her mom unplugged the computer or not, she still got the brunt of all the hate those kids could send her way...


And we ALL faced gossip and insults at school. The difference is that we went home and didn't have to hear it anymore, while if you supply the Internet to the kid, they just go home and read MORE gossip and insults. It's never-ending now. It doesn't stop when they get home.

And if you raise a kid to understand that what people post about you online is meaningless, and give them a bit of a spine and some social graces instead of letting them do all their socializing via Facebook or ask.fm, you'll find that they can take it when they go to school and hear that crap.

/Was believed by some to be a Satanic witch murderer-rapist according to school rumors.
//Blew it off. Grew up just fine.
///Never worshiped Satan, murdered, or raped.
 
2013-09-11 12:56:28 AM
As someone who was bullied and went to the school counselors for help but was completely blown off.... I sympathize with the girl but still don't understand the final decision she made. I had other friends. It makes all the difference.
 
2013-09-11 12:57:43 AM

Last Man on Earth: Arguments over the music aside, I have what might be a stupid question:  Regular bullying I get, but in the case of cyber-bullying, what control does the school have over it, exactly?  If the bullying is taking place outside of school grounds and not during the school day, I wouldn't think the school would have any real power.  If a complaint is filed, they could maybe contact the parents of the bullies, but I don't think they have the authority to enact any real school punishments for extracurricular actions.  "Negligence" implies that they could have and should have done more to prevent or reduce the harm, but what could they realistically have done?


Almost nothing.

I feel for the girl; and for the parents who apparently think "I did everything I could"; yes, except, evidently, restrict your daughter's access to the computer. Or get her a lot of much-needed counseling to find out what exactly was making her so incredibly susceptible to hurtful taunting. Or any of half a dozen other things I can think of besides just removing her from the school and thinking that would solve the problem.

Girls and boys who commit suicide are not "just" being bullied--a lot of us were bullied; hell, some were even molested or worse and didn't commit suicide. Others had no visible problems and yet killed themselves. Usually there's some underlying mental illness that also needs addressing. Or there could be other issues not being seen at home OR at school. Just because 12-year old girls are being horrible biatches doesn't in and of itself lead to suicide.

Parents of course want to blame someone--anyone--for their child's unseen problems. Especially single moms who probably have no clue what might have been going on. But blaming the school for not knowing better than HER what was going on in her daughter's head, or for somehow not monitoring the computer behavior of OTHER PEOPLE'S kids (at a time when half the population is running around screaming because the government is doing the exact same thing) is ludicrous.
 
2013-09-11 12:57:54 AM
ZeroCorpse:
///Never worshiped Satan, murdered, or raped.

hmmm, what the hell are you doing on Fark?
 
2013-09-11 01:00:48 AM

EmmaLou: Girls that age are evil, evil spawns of satan.  I'm sure they don't even know why they act the way they do.  In my day, I could at least go home and get away from that crap.  I can't imagine being that age today and having to deal with that on the phone and online.


OMG so much this!!! They are evil cliquey twunts.  Girl gangs will close their jaws like a pitbull on a victim and never never let go.

/why yes, I do have PTSD
 
2013-09-11 01:01:23 AM

hardinparamedic: ZeroCorpse: She was processing evidence even after her death. That's creepy.

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Not really. She just got kinky with a time lord.


Jack Harkness  was, once upon a time, a Time Agent-- not a Time Lord. Please get your nerd facts straight.

Also, if you never got around to watching the last five years or so of Doctor Who, imma go ahead and spoil it for you: He's also The Face of Boe..
 
2013-09-11 01:05:02 AM

ZeroCorpse: From TFA: At noon on Tuesday, several investigators were on top of a three-story cement mixer near where the body was found processing evidence.

She was processing evidence even after her death. That's creepy.


I think that's a Korean horror movie I watched a couple months ago.
 
2013-09-11 01:06:36 AM

haolegirl:  As that gets spread around the school (and we all know how the game telephone works) it makes no difference if her mom unplugged the computer or not, she still got the brunt of all the hate those kids could send her way...


She was home schooled since feb.
 
2013-09-11 01:11:12 AM

adeist69: hardinparamedic: ZeroCorpse: She was processing evidence even after her death. That's creepy.

[static.comicvine.com image 850x586]

Not really. She just got kinky with a time lord.

Jack Harkness  was, once upon a time, a Time Agent-- not a Time Lord. Please get your nerd facts straight.

Also, if you never got around to watching the last five years or so of Doctor Who, imma go ahead and spoil it for you: He's also The Face of Boe..


That's not fully confirmed, just hinted at, but what I believe he was referring to is how Old Jack got brought back to life when a human (Rose Tyler) opened the heart of the T.A.R.D.I.S. and brought him back to life, which consequently gave him the gift/curse of mortality. And why Jack might of not got kinky with the Doctor, his condition was certainly an end result of his company.

Also if you never watch got around to watching Torchwood, imma go ahead and spoil it for you, Jack becomes mortal again in episode 1 of season 4.
 
2013-09-11 01:13:41 AM

ZeroCorpse: ///Never worshiped Satan, murdered, or raped.


Lucifer ("Satan") doesn't wish to be worshiped; what is the point in free will if you just turn yourselves over to someone/-thing else? The whole point of that episode in Eden was to get us to think for ourselves and not follow blindly some Jackass just on His say so.

Why else do you think "God" pushed him out?
 
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