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(WHIO-TV Dayton)   Dayton man has little remorse after fathering 27 kids. "One thing I would change is different moms"   (whiotv.com ) divider line 145
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2013-09-10 11:59:15 PM  
www.dodgenmobiletech.com
They even make house calls
 
2013-09-10 11:59:29 PM  
Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*
 
2013-09-11 12:01:44 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Man, George Z didn't even make a dent.


How much more of a dent would you like him to make? Give me a ballpark number.
 
2013-09-11 12:02:54 AM  
Why didn't the news station ask if they were on welfare? That will get him some hate mail and drive him out of the city pretty fast instead of props from his homies.
 
2013-09-11 12:15:49 AM  

MrHappyRotter: Some of you are thinking too short term.  First of all, the man's got a goal in life.  He's going to have enough kids that he gets his own reality show.  Once the money from that starts rolling in, of course he's going to be responsible and use it to raise his kids right and help them get a leg up in life.  And, to be honest, after you put 20+ kids through college or trade school, the odds are good that most of them will make enough of a contribution to society to negate any harm that the 1 or 2 bad seeds will cause.  Of course, with that many well-educated kids, there's also an excellent chance that at least one of them will be the next Einstein -- and you can't place a value on that.


1/10 nice try
/u got a bite!
 
2013-09-11 12:16:38 AM  

oldwolf49: We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet........this should be something the repugnatcons are all over!!


Well it would certainly cut down on the registered Democrats.  If this guy had a license that would've been 27 less voters voting for higher taxes and more handouts, Mr. derpy.
 
2013-09-11 12:18:19 AM  
Granted, I've never had sex, and can't even imagine sex with a woman, but I wold guess that having 27 children must be somewhat unlikely unless you had sex many more than 27 times? Aren't the odds against pregnancy usually, as in the woman would have to be in her time of the month for it to take? And with all the variety of sexual positions available, it seems like this idea of ejaculating inside the woman must almost be some sort of fetish for this man. If he knows he's not using protection and has no reason to believe the woman is, I imagine he must get some sort of thrill knowing he's risking impregnating the woman. Given that his oldest is 21 and youngest is 1, he would have figured that out by now.

The other question I have is why all of these women would carry the babies to term if they know this guy's reputation. They must know they're going to get next to nothing in child support. Not that I am advocating abortion. It just seems statistically that some of the women wouldn't carry the babies to term. Maybe there are more that weren't.

I feel so sorry for the children. I'm not religious, don't generally see the point to it. But I think some people need religion. If you can't "get it" some other way, join a religion.
 
2013-09-11 12:24:32 AM  
SCUBA_Archer:
Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.

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2013-09-11 12:25:03 AM  
swingerofbirches:
The other question I have is why all of these women would carry the babies to term if they know this guy's reputation. They must know they're going to get next to nothing in child support.

Well, this thread has taught me that it can't be for the Welfare. Maybe it's for the awesome maternity gift basket that the public hospital gives away to all new moms after they give birth.
 
2013-09-11 12:27:18 AM  
Know several of his types. Had to deal with them daily. They used the kids that they created as a map, a place of show, a represent. Somehow; for some reason, it is a "street cred" thing for them. Its a mark, much like a dog walking down the street and lifting its leg on a light pole, I was here. They get arrested for drugs, move to anotther town. And start the whole process over again. They suck tax dollars out of every community they move to.
 
2013-09-11 12:30:13 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: 27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a cum dumpster.


If only poor people weren't so anti-abortion...
 
2013-09-11 12:30:48 AM  

Gyrfalcon: As bad as this guy is, I have to give him props for at least trying to take care of his kids. He's not doing a great job, and he should probably be castrated (and should have been, a long time ago); but at least he recognizes that he has to stay out of jail and give whatever money he can to support his kids.

That doesn't equate to approval of anything he does.


Do you really believe his bullshiat story? Glad you are not some biatch that would fall for it and end up having yet another of its welfare kids.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:04 AM  
I meet people like this all the time. They are all about fatherhood and wanting their kids to have the life they never had and taking care of them so they grow up right. They give everything they have for their kids. . . in their heads. In reality, they have no money, they don't pay child support, and any money they get disappears the second they get it, lest one of their baby mamas get it. They think they're being unjustly judged by a society unable to appreciate what they have to offer. They're basically narcissistic a**holes who do nothing but cause problems for other people. And they seem to attract women like flies. What's amazing is that a lot of the women who have their children know about all the other women and the other children. Each one thinks she's the one who's going to get him to settle down and do right, and that the other women are just greedy, manipulative biatches intent on stealing him back. .

Lawyers meet a lot of guys like that; we call them clients.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:57 AM  
Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!
 
2013-09-11 12:35:57 AM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: fickenchucker: Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

He's doing your country a service.

Can you imagine what America would be like without an underclass? Your little precious snowflake genius son with the engineering degree would have to pump gas and do nights at Denny's because there'd be no poor people to do the work.


Poor people are poor because they DON'T have a job.  If you work at Denny's or pump gas, you're what we like to call over here a "contributing member of society".
 
2013-09-11 12:47:07 AM  

Internet Meme Rogers: Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*


And yet, they've still actively contributed more to the conversation at hand than you have.  At least some people (even if trolling) have the gaul to point out what some might construe as racist or classist; at least it gets the ball rolling on a discussion.  If i had to wager I'd say you're perfectly content with keeping your head in your ass (or, in the sand, as it were).  Thanks for your support!
 
2013-09-11 12:59:14 AM  
1 dip knocking up 17 morons.  You just can't fix stupid.  They all could have had abortions.  Why does something tell me that all 17 of the women are black?
 
2013-09-11 01:06:46 AM  

boinkingbill: 1 dip knocking up 17 morons.  You just can't fix stupid.  They all could have had abortions.  Why does something tell me that all 17 of the women are black?



I'm guessing you assumed that because the guy is black?
 
TWX
2013-09-11 01:19:38 AM  

iheartscotch: How does someone like that make any money to pay for things? I imagine his wages are as garnished as it is possible to be. He has to be job switching or getting paid under the table.

/ or dealing drugs


I had a roommate for a short time that I later found out had three kids with three different women.  He would start a job and work there until the system found him a couple of months later and started garnishing his wages, then he'd move on to another job.  Usually he served food, but was starting to have problems with that as there are only so many franchise owners in the city with multiple restaurants, so there are only so many IHOPs, Denny's, and Cocos to cycle through before running out of options.

He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.

I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...
 
2013-09-11 01:46:30 AM  

8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!


i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?
 
2013-09-11 01:49:50 AM  
Smith says he is a "full-time parent" and sees at least one or two of his children nearly everyday.

Oh hey, me too. He and I are not so different.

/Usually I see all three of my kids every day, but that fits the definition of "at least one or two."
 
2013-09-11 03:29:57 AM  
While it is unlikely that he and the women are working full time, and the women probably recieve 1000 a month in WIC, EBT, Welfare and other combinations of assistance, like section 8 housing, utility subsidies,etc. It would be nice to see whether the women are working, have found other guys, or if parents/relatives/friends/neighbors etc are helping in this situations.

Please take into account that without immigration the US population is currently producing 1.3 children/per two adults, and so is actually falling below replacement rate.
~330 million US population, 3.1 million US Born, 935,000 Foriegn Born.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-r e cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/">http://www.pewsocialt rends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-re cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/

Finally his rate of reproduction, assuming that the women have no other children would be 27/18 (17 women and himself) or 1.5, which is still not all that above the non-immigration average rate of reproduction for the US population.

So obviously he is jerk to the women in all manners of speaking, but his anomolous behaviour is probably not too damaging to the US economy, and at worst would be costing taxpayers (10*$28,000)+(7*20,000)+12,000= $432,000 each year, including average school enrollment for the kids, plus the new health care law. However this number would only be applicable if nobody in the 18 adults were working, there was no family support, no friends working to help out or share apartments with, no recipricol relationship of baby sitting, just lumps sitting in their house, and doing nothing externally, not even spending money from the government, and no multiplier effect of government spending within the economy.
Now if they all worked minimum wage, 1/2 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $180,000 = $252,000
If they worked minimum wage and 3/4 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $270,000 = $162,000
If they lived with friends or family, and shared food, utilities and other things, then the cost to support them drops to 252,000 - (6,000*18) = $144,000
or 162,000- (6,000*18) = $48,000
and if they all held above minimum wage jobs to the tune of $11.00 per hour and were 3/4 time and shared room, utilities, etc, and were also active in the community in terms of helping with other kids (group babysitting, or other community aspects) they could easily be above the net take line.
$432,000 - ((18*$20,000) + (18*$6000) + (17*4000)) = 432,000 - (360,000 - 108,000 - 68,000) = -104,000. Or in accounting terms a contribution to society of $104,000 towards the public good and services earnings.

As this is fark, everybody assumes the worst, but while this is a hard thing to understand, as it is really an anomoly, it is exactly the same cost and effect that two people having 3 kids, is contributing to the overall burden on the planet, 1.5, and assuming that those two people don't work or contribute to society at all in a vacuum environment this 5 person family situation would cost (1 household*12000)+(3*8,000) = $36,000 per year in costs to society. In fact under these same conditions, it would only take 9 families in this more "normal" configuration to cost the same to house feed and clothe.
So 45 people in the "normal" 5 person family would take $324,000 a year and 45 in the anomolous 18 and 27 kids situation would be $432,000

It's easy to judgemental, not so easy to be so judgemental once you think about it in a more complex manner.

I know, no one cares TL;DR
To sum up, this guys lifestyle and the 17 women's lifestyle are only about 33% more resource consuming than the average 5 person household at a basic economic/welfare consumption analysis. The rest of the comments are simply judgemental based on whatever biases the commenter has.

Ironically, if he had less kids, he would be be adding more to the burden of society.
Here is the economics of that,
If he had stayed with just 17 kids, (instead of 27) these 18 people's lifestyle would be 39% more resource consuming than 7 average 5 person households.
(17*20,000)+(1*12,000) = $352,000 for 35 people, versus 7*36,000 =$252,000 for 35 people in 5 person household.

Finally if he had 34 kids, for a total of 52 people involved or the same number of people in (8) 5 person and (2) 6 person households to make 52,
it would be (17*28,000)+(1*12,000)=488,000 versus (8*36,000)+(2*44,000)=376,000
The anomlous lifestyle would still be ~30% more resource consuming, but less impactful on society than his current circumstance.
 
2013-09-11 03:56:42 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: 27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a welfare collecting cum dumpster.


FTFY
 
2013-09-11 06:19:59 AM  
He sounds black.

/dnrtfa
 
2013-09-11 06:48:23 AM  

TWX: He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.


See, tipping is a bad system.

/only trying to derail the thread away from racism
 
2013-09-11 07:02:44 AM  

bindlestiff2600: 8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!

i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?


"Aw baby c'mon, this time'll be different I swear!"
 
2013-09-11 07:10:11 AM  

Ilmarinen: TWX: He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.

See, tipping is a bad system.

/only trying to derail the thread away from racism



Nice try. However there should be no surprise that this guy is black. When 1/3 of your ethnic male dating pool is either in jail or an unemployable felon, it is no surprise that any black male in your community with a job is a relatively hot catch.

*Why* 1/3 of the black male population is rotating through the prison system is a separate matter...
 
2013-09-11 07:22:05 AM  
I'm sure he has no problem sleeping at night knowing he left all his chilrens in the responsible hands of the American tax payer. I bet some of them were eventually placed in the responsible hands of correctional officers.

/I think we ended the eugenics debate a little too soon
 
2013-09-11 07:26:18 AM  
FTFA: "All I can do right now is be the best father for them I can be and that is that. Whoever can't accept that, you know, Oh well."

Oh well, you farking loser.  Ever hear of a condom?  Thanks for saddling the rest of us with the bill for all of your b*stard children.  Fark you.
 
2013-09-11 07:30:08 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.


This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted on Fark (ignoring conservative derp). It's especially rich because this poster clearly thingks s/he is making a self-evidently intelligent point while completely missing the reason why birth rates are far more relevant to the discussion than raw birth numbers. Wow. Just wow.
 
2013-09-11 08:24:10 AM  

TWX: I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...


Huh?
 
2013-09-11 08:39:25 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com

"We Bebe's kids, we don't die, we multiply"
 
2013-09-11 08:51:56 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Please excuse that abomination of a post


How cute!  You gave the perfect line with which to have you farkied!
 
TWX
2013-09-11 09:41:09 AM  

StrangeQ: TWX: I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...

Huh?


See, sexual-congress-euphemisms...

/figured that would be obvious
//a recently released pop song goes on about being locked out of heaven for too long...
 
2013-09-11 09:51:06 AM  

bindlestiff2600: 8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!

i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?


Bling
 
2013-09-11 10:18:17 AM  
Acravius:
Jeepers, you've put quite a lot of thought into this.

My take on it is; what was this man's net effect on the unsupported bastard birthrate in his area?
There are 17 females involved, and I suspect that each one who thought it was a good idea to host this guy's seed probably would have made the same calculation with another deadbeat soon enough. Assuming he didn't use rape or fraud, how much effect could one man have on the local availability of walking sperm donors? It's not like there's a shortage!
 
2013-09-11 11:33:00 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
www.supportourribbons.com
 
2013-09-11 11:34:46 AM  

Fade2black: Internet Meme Rogers: Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*

And yet, they've still actively contributed more to the conversation at hand than you have.  At least some people (even if trolling) have the gaul to point out what some might construe as racist or classist; at least it gets the ball rolling on a discussion.  If i had to wager I'd say you're perfectly content with keeping your head in your ass (or, in the sand, as it were).  Thanks for your support!


I don't see what prehistoric France has to do with it.
 
2013-09-11 11:39:24 AM  
35 years ago....
 
2013-09-11 11:48:42 AM  
Some women are incredibly sexually attracted to prodigious men and can't help themselves -- consequences be damned.  My father sired nine children, and women threw themselves at his feet.  This guy has looks, charisma, and the bad boy factor, all of which only dial up the attraction.

Women like these baby mommas share a bizarre similarity to people trapped in grotesque obesity.
 
2013-09-11 12:03:40 PM  

CoonAce: Women like these baby mommas share a bizarre similarity to people trapped in grotesque obesity.


...distended bellies and a penchant for peanut butter?
 
2013-09-11 12:31:15 PM  

eiger: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted on Fark (ignoring conservative derp). It's especially rich because this poster clearly thingks s/he is making a self-evidently intelligent point while completely missing the reason why birth rates are far more relevant to the discussion than raw birth numbers. Wow. Just wow.


I think the dude is trolling since he purposefully misunderstood my many attempts to school him.  No way Dow Jones doesn't understand the concept of 'birth rate.'
 
2013-09-11 01:29:32 PM  
media.cmgdigital.com

Man... ANOTHER Wayans brother?????
 
2013-09-11 03:10:34 PM  
The Republicans will never catch up
 
2013-09-12 12:08:57 AM  

Acravius: While it is unlikely that he and the women are working full time, and the women probably recieve 1000 a month in WIC, EBT, Welfare and other combinations of assistance, like section 8 housing, utility subsidies,etc. It would be nice to see whether the women are working, have found other guys, or if parents/relatives/friends/neighbors etc are helping in this situations.

Please take into account that without immigration the US population is currently producing 1.3 children/per two adults, and so is actually falling below replacement rate.
~330 million US population, 3.1 million US Born, 935,000 Foriegn Born.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-r e cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/">http://www.pewsocialt rends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-re cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/

Finally his rate of reproduction, assuming that the women have no other children would be 27/18 (17 women and himself) or 1.5, which is still not all that above the non-immigration average rate of reproduction for the US population.

So obviously he is jerk to the women in all manners of speaking, but his anomolous behaviour is probably not too damaging to the US economy, and at worst would be costing taxpayers (10*$28,000)+(7*20,000)+12,000= $432,000 each year, including average school enrollment for the kids, plus the new health care law. However this number would only be applicable if nobody in the 18 adults were working, there was no family support, no friends working to help out or share apartments with, no recipricol relationship of baby sitting, just lumps sitting in their house, and doing nothing externally, not even spending money from the government, and no multiplier effect of government spending within the economy.
Now if they all worked minimum wage, 1/2 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $180,000 = $252,000
If they worked minimum wage and 3/4 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $4 ...


You're assuming that the dude is the only non-monogamous person in these relationships.  If Maury has taught me anything, each of these women probably has 10 kids, spread among different fathers.  How does that factor into your economic calculation?
 
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