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(WHIO-TV Dayton)   Dayton man has little remorse after fathering 27 kids. "One thing I would change is different moms"   (whiotv.com) divider line 145
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2013-09-10 08:40:38 PM
I remember this L & O: SVU episode:


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-10 09:40:56 PM
lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-09-10 09:42:54 PM
I'm not going to predict that it's a black guy.
 
2013-09-10 09:54:45 PM
Antonio Cromartie?
 
2013-09-10 09:54:50 PM
We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet........this should be something the repugnatcons are all over!!
 
2013-09-10 09:55:51 PM
How does someone like that make any money to pay for things? I imagine his wages are as garnished as it is possible to be. He has to be job switching or getting paid under the table.

/ or dealing drugs
 
2013-09-10 09:56:27 PM
*whine* "But baby, condoms ruin sex for me"

You know what ruins sex? Kids.

Kids and marriage in general.
 
2013-09-10 09:56:43 PM

oldwolf49: We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet


dilbert.com
 
2013-09-10 09:57:14 PM

oldwolf49: We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet........this should be something the repugnatcons are all over!!


Because, silly, that would be racist.

/ and, I'm not sure that repugnatcons is a word
 
2013-09-10 09:57:46 PM
To be fair, there aren't a whole lot of other things to do out here in Dayton.
 
2013-09-10 09:58:13 PM

Apos: I remember this L & O: SVU episode:


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I mentioned this episode in another thread on Fark today.  I didn't think I'd be reminded of that episode (which is awful, even by SVU standards) again for a while.
 
2013-09-10 09:58:25 PM
Piker.

Number of children born to Yemen-born construction magnate Muhammad Awad Bin Laden:  52

Number child Osama was:  17
 
2013-09-10 09:59:28 PM
He sure likes Dayton, but I guess he's not the Marion kind.
 
2013-09-10 10:02:54 PM
HIs biggest mistake was living in Ohio.
 
2013-09-10 10:03:02 PM

"Smith, who hopes to get a reality show..."


For what talent?

 
2013-09-10 10:03:53 PM
Judge Toler is sexy.
 
2013-09-10 10:03:55 PM
I was just in Dayton, Ohio last night. That must be the filthiest, most miserable place in the US that's not in Mississippi.
 
2013-09-10 10:03:59 PM

GleeUnit: Antonio Cromartie?


Well let's see. There's Alonzo who turned 3, Jerzie who's also 3, Deyjah just turned 3, Londo.
 themeatlockersports.files.wordpress.com
And then there's... uh... well.. umm...Jagger who I think turned 3 and umm....
edge.ilpvideo.com
shiat.
 
2013-09-10 10:04:07 PM
Dude needs to be brought up on charges for subjecting his children to Ohio.
 
2013-09-10 10:05:10 PM
A poet and performer who goes by the stage names of Brave Nate, FlexLuthor and Hustle Simmons,

Butt McStinky and Richard Smallpenis were taken.
 
2013-09-10 10:05:26 PM

iheartscotch: How does someone like that make any money to pay for things? I imagine his wages are as garnished as it is possible to be. He has to be job switching or getting paid under the table.

/ or dealing drugs


He just rotates thru his baby mamas, staying for a few weeks at a time, making more babies.
 
2013-09-10 10:05:49 PM
Of course it's all the man's fault. It's not like the women had a say in the matter.
 
2013-09-10 10:05:51 PM
Came for reference to Clevon.  Yup....
 
2013-09-10 10:06:24 PM
As bad as this guy is, I have to give him props for at least trying to take care of his kids. He's not doing a great job, and he should probably be castrated (and should have been, a long time ago); but at least he recognizes that he has to stay out of jail and give whatever money he can to support his kids.

That doesn't equate to approval of anything he does.
 
2013-09-10 10:06:37 PM
27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a cum dumpster.
 
2013-09-10 10:07:38 PM
I wonder what the chicks look like?
 
2013-09-10 10:08:07 PM
He may not be able to add but at least he can multiply.
 
2013-09-10 10:10:27 PM
Smith, who hopes to get a reality show, said his estranged wife Jasmine Cotton has been contacted by two TV talk shows since the episode aired.

 Jesus Christ.
 
2013-09-10 10:11:54 PM
biatches can't resist a man with a Buckeye News Hawk Award AND a Silver Sow!
 
2013-09-10 10:14:22 PM
From a Darwinistic perspective, this guy *WINS*!
 
2013-09-10 10:14:49 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: 27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a cum dumpster.


Kids are like Pringles. Betcha can't have just... No, wait, er, once you pop... Oh dear.
 
2013-09-10 10:15:03 PM
www.sondrakistan.com
 
2013-09-10 10:15:33 PM

oldwolf49: We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet........this should be something the repugnatcons are all over!!


You wouldn't believe me if I told you how many stupid drivers there are out there.
 
2013-09-10 10:15:59 PM
Law of Unintended Consequences continues to decimate American society.

If the government will feed, clothe and house your children, then it doesn't matter who the daddy is.
 
2013-09-10 10:16:19 PM
Thanks,Mr. Nessman.
 
2013-09-10 10:17:22 PM
Holy shiat, 27 kids with 17 women? Talk about stupid! After my second divorce I was paying child support to 2 ex wives, first thing I did was get a damn vasectomy.
 
2013-09-10 10:18:15 PM
I work with a very hot young black woman, 28, who has five kids, she looks like the oldest sister on the fresh prince.  Smoking.

Her old man is in jail right now and she said to me"i know your wife is out of the country for awhile, so I been thinking we could take care of each other, cause I do think about you."

While flattering the offer, I do love my wife, and I am a reformed dirt bag. So I politely turned her down.

I also asked her if she had her tubes tied and she said "no, i might meet the man of my dreams and want to have his baby".
 
2013-09-10 10:18:35 PM
Cage match for Christmas presents.
 
2013-09-10 10:19:14 PM
One of the children should be named Drew, his taxes and ours are supporting them.
 
2013-09-10 10:19:43 PM
And we are all paying for it too, enjoy the fact your hard earned money feeds his crotch fruits while a good portion of them are probably going to be in prison soon enough so thats even more money.

Duggers did it right, this pos needs to be in prison, and not let out
 
2013-09-10 10:20:19 PM

Brave: Law of Unintended Consequences continues to decimate American society.

If the government will feed, clothe and house your children, then it doesn't matter who the daddy is.


Is that why our birth rate has gone down while our safety net has increased?
 
2013-09-10 10:20:58 PM

skinink: "Smith, who hopes to get a reality show..."
For what talent?


farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-09-10 10:21:08 PM

iheartscotch: How does someone like that make any money to pay for things? I imagine his wages are as garnished as it is possible to be. He has to be job switching or getting paid under the table.

/ or dealing drugs


Why would he ever need to pay for anything with that many biatches on welfare?
 
2013-09-10 10:22:39 PM
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Dasalotta foo stamps an 'bamaphones!
 
2013-09-10 10:23:56 PM

ocd002: You know what ruins sex? Kids.


imgs.sfgate.com

"Like hell it does!"
 
2013-09-10 10:24:02 PM

Misconduc: And we are all paying for it too, enjoy the fact your hard earned money feeds his crotch fruits while a good portion of them are probably going to be in prison soon enough so thats even more money.

Duggers did it right, this pos needs to be in prison, and not let out


Our government spends a lot more money on worse bullshiat than this. And my money isn't hard earned at all.
 
2013-09-10 10:25:08 PM
Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.
 
2013-09-10 10:26:03 PM
This f%^$ER is the reason I didn't see an Airshow this year.
 
2013-09-10 10:26:58 PM

fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.


Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.
 
2013-09-10 10:27:57 PM

Brave: Law of Unintended Consequences continues to decimate American society.

If the government will feed, clothe and house your children, then it doesn't matter who the daddy is.


Idiots were breeding like rabbits back when there was no welfare and they toiled in the dirt and factories.
 
2013-09-10 10:28:13 PM

theflatline: I work with a very hot young black woman, 28, who has five kids, she looks like the oldest sister on the fresh prince.  Smoking.

Her old man is in jail right now and she said to me"i know your wife is out of the country for awhile, so I been thinking we could take care of each other, cause I do think about you."

While flattering the offer, I do love my wife, and I am a reformed dirt bag. So I politely turned her down.

I also asked her if she had her tubes tied and she said "no, i might meet the man of my dreams and want to have his baby".


So having babies is a mark of ownership now.

Like a dog pissing on a tree to mark his territory.

And the dumbass women are going along with it.
 
2013-09-10 10:29:48 PM
www.centerforinquiry.net

Best argument EVAR!
 
2013-09-10 10:30:08 PM

fickenchucker: Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.


You're mistaken. People who make these choices have absolutely zero concept of the future. They do not plan, they simply live day to day. They are not gaming the system, they're just farking and don't give a shiat about birth control
 
2013-09-10 10:30:19 PM
I hate my baby mama
I hate my baby mama
I hate I hate I hate I hate
I hate my baby mama
 
2013-09-10 10:30:19 PM

fickenchucker: Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.


He's doing your country a service.

Can you imagine what America would be like without an underclass? Your little precious snowflake genius son with the engineering degree would have to pump gas and do nights at Denny's because there'd be no poor people to do the work.
 
2013-09-10 10:30:23 PM
"Full time parent" who USUALLY manages to see one or two of them a day.

Sounds exhausting.
 
2013-09-10 10:33:37 PM
Man, George Z didn't even make a dent.
 
2013-09-10 10:35:59 PM
Condoms.....how do they work?
 
2013-09-10 10:37:26 PM

theflatline: I work with a very hot young black woman, 28, who has five kids, she looks like the oldest sister on the fresh prince.  Smoking.

Her old man is in jail right now and she said to me"i know your wife is out of the country for awhile, so I been thinking we could take care of each other, cause I do think about you."

While flattering the offer, I do love my wife, and I am a reformed dirt bag. So I politely turned her down.

I also asked her if she had her tubes tied and she said "no, i might meet the man of my dreams and want to have his baby".


Plus your wife is SMOKING hot.  congrats.

Also she has the look of one that would shove you off a cliff if she found out.
 
2013-09-10 10:39:39 PM

Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.


U.S. Birthrate:

1910 - 30.1 (per 1,000 pop)
1920 - 27.7
1930 - 21.3
1935 - 18.7 (year AFDC was created)
1940 - 19.4
1945 - 20.4 (WWI)
1950 - 24.1 (Baby Boom)
1955 - 25.0 (Baby Boom)
1960 - 23.7
1964 - 21.0 (year Food Stamp Act was passed)
1970 - 18.4
1975 - 14.8
1980 - 15.9
1985 - 15.8
1990 - 16.7
1996 - 14.7 ("welfare reform" passed)
2000 - 14.7
2005 - 14.0
2010 - 13.0

/my suspicion - there is no causal link between "welfare" and birth rates
 
2013-09-10 10:41:43 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.

U.S. Birthrate:

1910 - 30.1 (per 1,000 pop)
1920 - 27.7
1930 - 21.3
1935 - 18.7 (year AFDC was created)
1940 - 19.4
1945 - 20.4 (WWI)
1950 - 24.1 (Baby Boom)
1955 - 25.0 (Baby Boom)
1960 - 23.7
1964 - 21.0 (year Food Stamp Act was passed)
1970 - 18.4
1975 - 14.8
1980 - 15.9
1985 - 15.8
1990 - 16.7
1996 - 14.7 ("welfare reform" passed)
2000 - 14.7
2005 - 14.0
2010 - 13.0

/my suspicion - there is no causal link between "welfare" and birth rates


Those rates are useless without providing the context of overall population and employment rates. Unless you're being purposefully misleading...
 
2013-09-10 10:42:12 PM
Some of you are thinking too short term.  First of all, the man's got a goal in life.  He's going to have enough kids that he gets his own reality show.  Once the money from that starts rolling in, of course he's going to be responsible and use it to raise his kids right and help them get a leg up in life.  And, to be honest, after you put 20+ kids through college or trade school, the odds are good that most of them will make enough of a contribution to society to negate any harm that the 1 or 2 bad seeds will cause.  Of course, with that many well-educated kids, there's also an excellent chance that at least one of them will be the next Einstein -- and you can't place a value on that.
 
2013-09-10 10:42:20 PM
*of course I meant WWII in 1945
 
2013-09-10 10:44:29 PM

Theaetetus: He sure likes Dayton, but I guess he's not the Marion kind.


He can't remember if he is Dayton a girl from Eaton, or Eaton a  girl from Dayton.
 
2013-09-10 10:44:56 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: skinink: "Smith, who hopes to get a reality show..."
For what talent?

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 500x460]


Thank you.
 
2013-09-10 10:45:47 PM

MrHappyRotter: Some of you are thinking too short term.  First of all, the man's got a goal in life.  He's going to have enough kids that he gets his own reality show.  Once the money from that starts rolling in, of course he's going to be responsible and use it to raise his kids right and help them get a leg up in life.  And, to be honest, after you put 20+ kids through college or trade school, the odds are good that most of them will make enough of a contribution to society to negate any harm that the 1 or 2 bad seeds will cause.  Of course, with that many well-educated kids, there's also an excellent chance that at least one of them will be the next Einstein -- and you can't place a value on that.


Or the next Hitler, in which case he cancels out up to 20,000,000 kids.
 
2013-09-10 10:46:11 PM
1) Make assumption
2) Check article
3) Confirm assumption
4) Wish for involuntary sterilization for that fool
 
2013-09-10 10:46:17 PM

Amos Quito: [www.centerforinquiry.net image 250x250]

Best argument EVAR!


I always thought that logo looked vaguely like somebody punch-fisting a uterus.
 
2013-09-10 10:46:39 PM
Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.
 
2013-09-10 10:49:40 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: MrHappyRotter: Some of you are thinking too short term.  First of all, the man's got a goal in life.  He's going to have enough kids that he gets his own reality show.  Once the money from that starts rolling in, of course he's going to be responsible and use it to raise his kids right and help them get a leg up in life.  And, to be honest, after you put 20+ kids through college or trade school, the odds are good that most of them will make enough of a contribution to society to negate any harm that the 1 or 2 bad seeds will cause.  Of course, with that many well-educated kids, there's also an excellent chance that at least one of them will be the next Einstein -- and you can't place a value on that.

Or the next Hitler, in which case he cancels out up to 20,000,000 kids.


Sorry, that title has already been taken by Obama.
 
2013-09-10 10:49:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AliceBToklasLives: Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.

U.S. Birthrate:

1910 - 30.1 (per 1,000 pop)
1920 - 27.7
1930 - 21.3
1935 - 18.7 (year AFDC was created)
1940 - 19.4
1945 - 20.4 (WWI)
1950 - 24.1 (Baby Boom)
1955 - 25.0 (Baby Boom)
1960 - 23.7
1964 - 21.0 (year Food Stamp Act was passed)
1970 - 18.4
1975 - 14.8
1980 - 15.9
1985 - 15.8
1990 - 16.7
1996 - 14.7 ("welfare reform" passed)
2000 - 14.7
2005 - 14.0
2010 - 13.0

/my suspicion - there is no causal link between "welfare" and birth rates

Those rates are useless without providing the context of overall population and employment rates. Unless you're being purposefully misleading...


Well obviously it would take a serious study to determine if there is even a correlation between welfare and population.  However, it is uncontroversial that birth rates have gone down dramatically since the US began serious welfare programs.  Today, the overall birth rate is about the lowest in US history, as is the teen birth rate.  And these numbers are not just a result of the current recession but the same trend (in both booming economies and in recessions) of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
 
2013-09-10 10:49:58 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.


I'll be perfectly honest, I saw a bunch of numbers and passed over it like I do when I'm reading a wikipedia article that suddenly has a random physics equation in the middle of it.
 
2013-09-10 10:51:10 PM

Greywar: theflatline: I work with a very hot young black woman, 28, who has five kids, she looks like the oldest sister on the fresh prince.  Smoking.

Her old man is in jail right now and she said to me"i know your wife is out of the country for awhile, so I been thinking we could take care of each other, cause I do think about you."

While flattering the offer, I do love my wife, and I am a reformed dirt bag. So I politely turned her down.

I also asked her if she had her tubes tied and she said "no, i might meet the man of my dreams and want to have his baby".

Plus your wife is SMOKING hot.  congrats.

Also she has the look of one that would shove you off a cliff if she found out.


hahahaha, there are are a few farkers that think my wife is a plain jane, and called her a solid six.

i did not marry her because she was good looking, i married her because she is a good person.   who happens to be good looking.
 
2013-09-10 10:56:58 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.


Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing. That doesn't mean there are a significant number of people who actually think having kids and getting on welfare is a lucrative business venture.

I'm not defending this idiot or people like him but people who cry about their precious tax dollars being wasted on welfare and food stamps or whatever are crying about the wrong misuse of their tax dollars.
 
2013-09-10 10:57:06 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AliceBToklasLives: Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.

U.S. Birthrate:

1910 - 30.1 (per 1,000 pop)
1920 - 27.7
1930 - 21.3
1935 - 18.7 (year AFDC was created)
1940 - 19.4
1945 - 20.4 (WWI)
1950 - 24.1 (Baby Boom)
1955 - 25.0 (Baby Boom)
1960 - 23.7
1964 - 21.0 (year Food Stamp Act was passed)
1970 - 18.4
1975 - 14.8
1980 - 15.9
1985 - 15.8
1990 - 16.7
1996 - 14.7 ("welfare reform" passed)
2000 - 14.7
2005 - 14.0
2010 - 13.0

/my suspicion - there is no causal link between "welfare" and birth rates

Those rates are useless without providing the context of overall population and employment rates. Unless you're being purposefully misleading...

Well obviously it would take a serious study to determine if there is even a correlation between welfare and population.  However, it is uncontroversial that birth rates have gone down dramatically since the US began serious welfare programs.  Today, the overall birth rate is about the lowest in US history, as is the teen birth rate.  And these numbers are not just a result of the current recession but the same trend (in both booming economies and in recessions) of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.


Of course the rate is the lowest it's been in history, we have the largest population we have in history.

If you have a population of 2 and one has a child, the birth rate is 50%, but if you have a population of 200 and 20 has children, the "rate" drops by 40% but the actual number of kids increased by 200%.

This is why statistics are largely bullshiat when used like this.
 
2013-09-10 10:58:22 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.


Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing. That doesn't mean there are a significant number of people who actually think having kids and getting on welfare is a lucrative business venture.
I'm not defending this idiot or people like him but people who cry about their precious tax dollars being wasted on welfare and food stamps or whatever are crying about the wrong misuse of their tax dollars.
 
2013-09-10 11:00:13 PM

Mugato: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.

Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing. That doesn't mean there are a significant number of people who actually think having kids and getting on welfare is a lucrative business venture.

I'm not defending this idiot or people like him but people who cry about their precious tax dollars being wasted on welfare and food stamps or whatever are crying about the wrong misuse of their tax dollars.


biatching about people on welfare crapping out kids definitely silly, but the actual number of children
to families on welfare is at an all time high. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing, but I grew that in terms of wasted tax dollars it's a drop in the bucket.
 
2013-09-10 11:00:52 PM
Please excuse that abomination of a post
 
2013-09-10 11:01:56 PM
My favorite online conservative is this old douchebag who rails against people like this -- irresponsible men who spread their seed too far and wide without the wherewithal to nurture each sprout!  At the same time, he claims his hatred of gays is logical and scientific, because PROCREATION IS ALL THAT MATTERS.  GAYS ARE A DEAD END.

Honestly, i think he's just miffed that black guys are outdoing him.
 
2013-09-10 11:02:21 PM
Sigh. Population increase does not necessarily mean an increase in the birth rate. Please look up "rate" on Wikipedia or something
 
2013-09-10 11:02:31 PM
By using breeder logic - this guy is a winner.
 
2013-09-10 11:02:47 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: fickenchucker: Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

You're mistaken. People who make these choices have absolutely zero concept of the future. They do not plan, they simply live day to day. They are not gaming the system, they're just farking and don't give a shiat about birth control


100% this. People like this live for now. "It feels good, let's do it." You could tell them they'd have to PAY for every baby they made, or that they'd lose a limb for each conception leading to live birth; and all we'd have is lots of amputees hobbling all over the place. If you have a lot of average- to low-average intelligence people with very little to do and poor impulse control, then they're going to have lots of sex; and with good healthcare and no real infant or child mortality any more to worry about, then all their babies are going to live.

That society will pay them because we don't like dead babies is just a nice side effect of sex feeling good.
 
2013-09-10 11:06:13 PM
You don't understand the purpose of rates.
 
2013-09-10 11:07:04 PM
One could assume that most of these cherrn are conceived in the same hood and are about the same age. If the behavior of the father is passed on to those cherrn, won't we have a lot of brothers and sisters farking each other 14 years later, putting the inbreeding of the deep south and England combined to shame?
 
2013-09-10 11:08:47 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Sigh. Population increase does not necessarily mean an increase in the birth rate. Please look up "rate" on Wikipedia or something


I'm assuming the above is in response to these:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just to clarify, the "rate per 1,000" is decreasing (obiously, as the population is much larger than jt was 100 years ago) but the actual number of births per year is increasing.


Mugato: Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing.

Because they made my head hurt.
 
2013-09-10 11:08:53 PM
One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.
 
2013-09-10 11:10:01 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: Mugato: Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing.

Because they made my head hurt.


I mis-"spoke". I meant number of births.
 
2013-09-10 11:11:15 PM

Mugato: Occam's Disposable Razor: Mugato: Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing.

Because they made my head hurt.

I mis-"spoke". I meant number of births.


Wasn't trying to be a dick, thanks for being civil!
 
2013-09-10 11:12:16 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: Mugato: Occam's Disposable Razor: Mugato: Well obviously the population has been steadily increasing, ergo the birthrate is going to be increasing.

Because they made my head hurt.

I mis-"spoke". I meant number of births.

Wasn't trying to be a dick, thanks for being civil!


I didn't mispeak, if my post didn't make sense to you you need to go back to math school
 
2013-09-10 11:13:43 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.


By that logic, this is the best time ever to look for a job, because there are more Americans employed today that ever. Since no one would make such a claim, the relevant data is not raw numbers but rates (such as the unemployment rate).

/why stoop to calling me dumb? Call my argument dumb if you wish, but try being civil - it's possible even on Fark
 
2013-09-10 11:16:21 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.

By that logic, this is the best time ever to look for a job, because there are more Americans employed today that ever. Since no one would make such a claim, the relevant data is not raw numbers but rates (such as the unemployment rate).

/why stoop to calling me dumb? Call my argument dumb if you wish, but try being civil - it's possible even on Fark


You're either stupid or intentionally misusing the data to make your point. I value personal integrity, so me calling you stupid is a compliment considering the alternative.
 
2013-09-10 11:17:59 PM

tetsoushima: Amos Quito: [www.centerforinquiry.net image 250x250]

Best argument EVAR!

I always thought that logo looked vaguely like somebody punch-fisting a uterus.



img.fark.net

25.media.tumblr.com

This came to mind.


/Nostalgia from the 70's
 
2013-09-10 11:19:06 PM

Amos Quito: I always thought that logo looked vaguely like somebody punch-fisting a uterus.


And there's an upside down cross too.
 
2013-09-10 11:20:14 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AliceBToklasLives: Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.

U.S. Birthrate:

1910 - 30.1 (per 1,000 pop)
1920 - 27.7
1930 - 21.3
1935 - 18.7 (year AFDC was created)
1940 - 19.4
1945 - 20.4 (WWI)
1950 - 24.1 (Baby Boom)
1955 - 25.0 (Baby Boom)
1960 - 23.7
1964 - 21.0 (year Food Stamp Act was passed)
1970 - 18.4
1975 - 14.8
1980 - 15.9
1985 - 15.8
1990 - 16.7
1996 - 14.7 ("welfare reform" passed)
2000 - 14.7
2005 - 14.0
2010 - 13.0

/my suspicion - there is no causal link between "welfare" and birth rates

Those rates are useless without providing the context of overall population and employment rates. Unless you're being purposefully misleading...

Well obviously it would take a serious study to determine if there is even a correlation between welfare and population.  However, it is uncontroversial that birth rates have gone down dramatically since the US began serious welfare programs.  Today, the overall birth rate is about the lowest in US history, as is the teen birth rate.  And these numbers are not just a result of the current recession but the same trend (in both booming economies and in recessions) of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.



The only relevant stat would be birth rates among those on welfare.
 
2013-09-10 11:27:23 PM

ocd002: *whine* "But baby, condoms ruin sex for me"

You know what ruins sex? Kids.

Kids and marriage in general.


It's the ultimate Catch-22.
 
2013-09-10 11:29:09 PM

Mugato: fickenchucker: Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

Yeah, raising a child and making a pittance in welfare from it is such a lucrative venture.


Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.
 
2013-09-10 11:32:29 PM

SCUBA_Archer: Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.


Yeah. And you learned about their motivations from all your time spent in the inner city talking to these welfare queens.
 
2013-09-10 11:52:00 PM

Mugato: SCUBA_Archer: Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.

Yeah. And you learned about their motivations from all your time spent in the inner city talking to these welfare queens.


Their actions speak for themselves.  I don't see a huge segment of the welfare population crusading for reductions in birth numbers.

And I don't remember anywhere in my comment where I was referring to the "inner city" so I'm not sure what you're implying.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:34 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AliceBToklasLives: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.

By that logic, this is the best time ever to look for a job, because there are more Americans employed today that ever. Since no one would make such a claim, the relevant data is not raw numbers but rates (such as the unemployment rate).

/why stoop to calling me dumb? Call my argument dumb if you wish, but try being civil - it's possible even on Fark

You're either stupid or intentionally misusing the data to make your point. I value personal integrity, so me calling you stupid is a compliment considering the alternative.


Ok I'll try again.  The birth rate can go down when the population increases.  In fact that is the general trend in the US over the last century (more babies are born while each woman has, on average, fewer babies).

In 1910 there were about 92,000,000 Americans and 3.1% of Americans had a baby that year for a total of about 2,700,000 babies.

In 2000 there were about 281,000,000 Americans and 1.4% of Americans had a baby that year for a total of about 4,000,000 babies.

Notice how the population rose some 300% while the number of babies born rose only 148%.  This means that the birth rate fell while the population rose.  More babies are being born but the average American is having fewer babies.

Of course "people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history" - the population has tripled since 1910 and has been steadily increasing ever since.  For the same reason, there are also more Americans employed now than in any point in history.  And there are more Americans unemployed than in any point in history.  There are more Americans in prison than in any point in history.   There are more Americans with high school diplomas than in any point in history.   There are more left-handed Americans than in any point in history.  And so on and so on.
 
2013-09-10 11:53:34 PM

Mugato: SCUBA_Archer: Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.

Yeah. And you learned about their motivations from all your time spent in the inner city talking to these welfare queens.


I'm going to make a non fark type statement, before a revert back to my trolling,

I think it's more to do with certain cultural norms of their peer group. Welfare played into by removing some of the social structure of the family, but the culture of the socioeconomic group played a bigger role. I've worked with a bunch of public health/social workers in the past. A lot of them stated that the teens they were working with, had this farked up idea that they were grown up and women now since they had child. Plus their parents had a kid when they were 14 so it wasn't that out of the ordinary.


/back to regularly schedule programming
//I'm pro retroactive abortion
 
2013-09-10 11:59:15 PM
www.dodgenmobiletech.com
They even make house calls
 
2013-09-10 11:59:29 PM
Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*
 
2013-09-11 12:01:44 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Man, George Z didn't even make a dent.


How much more of a dent would you like him to make? Give me a ballpark number.
 
2013-09-11 12:02:54 AM
Why didn't the news station ask if they were on welfare? That will get him some hate mail and drive him out of the city pretty fast instead of props from his homies.
 
2013-09-11 12:15:49 AM

MrHappyRotter: Some of you are thinking too short term.  First of all, the man's got a goal in life.  He's going to have enough kids that he gets his own reality show.  Once the money from that starts rolling in, of course he's going to be responsible and use it to raise his kids right and help them get a leg up in life.  And, to be honest, after you put 20+ kids through college or trade school, the odds are good that most of them will make enough of a contribution to society to negate any harm that the 1 or 2 bad seeds will cause.  Of course, with that many well-educated kids, there's also an excellent chance that at least one of them will be the next Einstein -- and you can't place a value on that.


1/10 nice try
/u got a bite!
 
2013-09-11 12:16:38 AM

oldwolf49: We need a license for EVERYTHING ELSE why the hell don't we to have kids yet........this should be something the repugnatcons are all over!!


Well it would certainly cut down on the registered Democrats.  If this guy had a license that would've been 27 less voters voting for higher taxes and more handouts, Mr. derpy.
 
2013-09-11 12:18:19 AM
Granted, I've never had sex, and can't even imagine sex with a woman, but I wold guess that having 27 children must be somewhat unlikely unless you had sex many more than 27 times? Aren't the odds against pregnancy usually, as in the woman would have to be in her time of the month for it to take? And with all the variety of sexual positions available, it seems like this idea of ejaculating inside the woman must almost be some sort of fetish for this man. If he knows he's not using protection and has no reason to believe the woman is, I imagine he must get some sort of thrill knowing he's risking impregnating the woman. Given that his oldest is 21 and youngest is 1, he would have figured that out by now.

The other question I have is why all of these women would carry the babies to term if they know this guy's reputation. They must know they're going to get next to nothing in child support. Not that I am advocating abortion. It just seems statistically that some of the women wouldn't carry the babies to term. Maybe there are more that weren't.

I feel so sorry for the children. I'm not religious, don't generally see the point to it. But I think some people need religion. If you can't "get it" some other way, join a religion.
 
2013-09-11 12:24:32 AM
SCUBA_Archer:
Doesn't seem to dissuade a certain segment of the population.  In fact they seem to think it's quite the reward to get that bump in the monthly check with each extra mouth they squeeze out.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-09-11 12:25:03 AM
swingerofbirches:
The other question I have is why all of these women would carry the babies to term if they know this guy's reputation. They must know they're going to get next to nothing in child support.

Well, this thread has taught me that it can't be for the Welfare. Maybe it's for the awesome maternity gift basket that the public hospital gives away to all new moms after they give birth.
 
2013-09-11 12:27:18 AM
Know several of his types. Had to deal with them daily. They used the kids that they created as a map, a place of show, a represent. Somehow; for some reason, it is a "street cred" thing for them. Its a mark, much like a dog walking down the street and lifting its leg on a light pole, I was here. They get arrested for drugs, move to anotther town. And start the whole process over again. They suck tax dollars out of every community they move to.
 
2013-09-11 12:30:13 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: 27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a cum dumpster.


If only poor people weren't so anti-abortion...
 
2013-09-11 12:30:48 AM

Gyrfalcon: As bad as this guy is, I have to give him props for at least trying to take care of his kids. He's not doing a great job, and he should probably be castrated (and should have been, a long time ago); but at least he recognizes that he has to stay out of jail and give whatever money he can to support his kids.

That doesn't equate to approval of anything he does.


Do you really believe his bullshiat story? Glad you are not some biatch that would fall for it and end up having yet another of its welfare kids.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:04 AM
I meet people like this all the time. They are all about fatherhood and wanting their kids to have the life they never had and taking care of them so they grow up right. They give everything they have for their kids. . . in their heads. In reality, they have no money, they don't pay child support, and any money they get disappears the second they get it, lest one of their baby mamas get it. They think they're being unjustly judged by a society unable to appreciate what they have to offer. They're basically narcissistic a**holes who do nothing but cause problems for other people. And they seem to attract women like flies. What's amazing is that a lot of the women who have their children know about all the other women and the other children. Each one thinks she's the one who's going to get him to settle down and do right, and that the other women are just greedy, manipulative biatches intent on stealing him back. .

Lawyers meet a lot of guys like that; we call them clients.
 
2013-09-11 12:33:57 AM
Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!
 
2013-09-11 12:35:57 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: fickenchucker: Yeah, and forced sterilization is considered wrong.  Chances are this one guy foisted upon this country 27 future baby-mammas/baby-mamma-knocker-uppers.  Not to mention the dozens of other children his 17 baby-mammas probably have from other morans.  Still think welfare is a good thing, everyone?  The 17 cumbuckets would probably think twice about laying down with this walking turd if there was no money in it.

He's doing your country a service.

Can you imagine what America would be like without an underclass? Your little precious snowflake genius son with the engineering degree would have to pump gas and do nights at Denny's because there'd be no poor people to do the work.


Poor people are poor because they DON'T have a job.  If you work at Denny's or pump gas, you're what we like to call over here a "contributing member of society".
 
2013-09-11 12:47:07 AM

Internet Meme Rogers: Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*


And yet, they've still actively contributed more to the conversation at hand than you have.  At least some people (even if trolling) have the gaul to point out what some might construe as racist or classist; at least it gets the ball rolling on a discussion.  If i had to wager I'd say you're perfectly content with keeping your head in your ass (or, in the sand, as it were).  Thanks for your support!
 
2013-09-11 12:59:14 AM
1 dip knocking up 17 morons.  You just can't fix stupid.  They all could have had abortions.  Why does something tell me that all 17 of the women are black?
 
2013-09-11 01:06:46 AM

boinkingbill: 1 dip knocking up 17 morons.  You just can't fix stupid.  They all could have had abortions.  Why does something tell me that all 17 of the women are black?



I'm guessing you assumed that because the guy is black?
 
TWX
2013-09-11 01:19:38 AM

iheartscotch: How does someone like that make any money to pay for things? I imagine his wages are as garnished as it is possible to be. He has to be job switching or getting paid under the table.

/ or dealing drugs


I had a roommate for a short time that I later found out had three kids with three different women.  He would start a job and work there until the system found him a couple of months later and started garnishing his wages, then he'd move on to another job.  Usually he served food, but was starting to have problems with that as there are only so many franchise owners in the city with multiple restaurants, so there are only so many IHOPs, Denny's, and Cocos to cycle through before running out of options.

He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.

I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...
 
2013-09-11 01:46:30 AM

8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!


i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?
 
2013-09-11 01:49:50 AM
Smith says he is a "full-time parent" and sees at least one or two of his children nearly everyday.

Oh hey, me too. He and I are not so different.

/Usually I see all three of my kids every day, but that fits the definition of "at least one or two."
 
2013-09-11 03:29:57 AM
While it is unlikely that he and the women are working full time, and the women probably recieve 1000 a month in WIC, EBT, Welfare and other combinations of assistance, like section 8 housing, utility subsidies,etc. It would be nice to see whether the women are working, have found other guys, or if parents/relatives/friends/neighbors etc are helping in this situations.

Please take into account that without immigration the US population is currently producing 1.3 children/per two adults, and so is actually falling below replacement rate.
~330 million US population, 3.1 million US Born, 935,000 Foriegn Born.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-r e cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/">http://www.pewsocialt rends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-re cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/

Finally his rate of reproduction, assuming that the women have no other children would be 27/18 (17 women and himself) or 1.5, which is still not all that above the non-immigration average rate of reproduction for the US population.

So obviously he is jerk to the women in all manners of speaking, but his anomolous behaviour is probably not too damaging to the US economy, and at worst would be costing taxpayers (10*$28,000)+(7*20,000)+12,000= $432,000 each year, including average school enrollment for the kids, plus the new health care law. However this number would only be applicable if nobody in the 18 adults were working, there was no family support, no friends working to help out or share apartments with, no recipricol relationship of baby sitting, just lumps sitting in their house, and doing nothing externally, not even spending money from the government, and no multiplier effect of government spending within the economy.
Now if they all worked minimum wage, 1/2 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $180,000 = $252,000
If they worked minimum wage and 3/4 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $270,000 = $162,000
If they lived with friends or family, and shared food, utilities and other things, then the cost to support them drops to 252,000 - (6,000*18) = $144,000
or 162,000- (6,000*18) = $48,000
and if they all held above minimum wage jobs to the tune of $11.00 per hour and were 3/4 time and shared room, utilities, etc, and were also active in the community in terms of helping with other kids (group babysitting, or other community aspects) they could easily be above the net take line.
$432,000 - ((18*$20,000) + (18*$6000) + (17*4000)) = 432,000 - (360,000 - 108,000 - 68,000) = -104,000. Or in accounting terms a contribution to society of $104,000 towards the public good and services earnings.

As this is fark, everybody assumes the worst, but while this is a hard thing to understand, as it is really an anomoly, it is exactly the same cost and effect that two people having 3 kids, is contributing to the overall burden on the planet, 1.5, and assuming that those two people don't work or contribute to society at all in a vacuum environment this 5 person family situation would cost (1 household*12000)+(3*8,000) = $36,000 per year in costs to society. In fact under these same conditions, it would only take 9 families in this more "normal" configuration to cost the same to house feed and clothe.
So 45 people in the "normal" 5 person family would take $324,000 a year and 45 in the anomolous 18 and 27 kids situation would be $432,000

It's easy to judgemental, not so easy to be so judgemental once you think about it in a more complex manner.

I know, no one cares TL;DR
To sum up, this guys lifestyle and the 17 women's lifestyle are only about 33% more resource consuming than the average 5 person household at a basic economic/welfare consumption analysis. The rest of the comments are simply judgemental based on whatever biases the commenter has.

Ironically, if he had less kids, he would be be adding more to the burden of society.
Here is the economics of that,
If he had stayed with just 17 kids, (instead of 27) these 18 people's lifestyle would be 39% more resource consuming than 7 average 5 person households.
(17*20,000)+(1*12,000) = $352,000 for 35 people, versus 7*36,000 =$252,000 for 35 people in 5 person household.

Finally if he had 34 kids, for a total of 52 people involved or the same number of people in (8) 5 person and (2) 6 person households to make 52,
it would be (17*28,000)+(1*12,000)=488,000 versus (8*36,000)+(2*44,000)=376,000
The anomlous lifestyle would still be ~30% more resource consuming, but less impactful on society than his current circumstance.
 
2013-09-11 03:56:42 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: 27 kids by 17 diff women.

That means some of those dumb biatches let this trash get them pregnant more than once.

They must like being little more than a welfare collecting cum dumpster.


FTFY
 
2013-09-11 06:19:59 AM
He sounds black.

/dnrtfa
 
2013-09-11 06:48:23 AM

TWX: He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.


See, tipping is a bad system.

/only trying to derail the thread away from racism
 
2013-09-11 07:02:44 AM

bindlestiff2600: 8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!

i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?


"Aw baby c'mon, this time'll be different I swear!"
 
2013-09-11 07:10:11 AM

Ilmarinen: TWX: He was apparently not terribly nice to his fellow wait staff.  Because he knew he wasn't going to be there very long he skipped on the side-work (wrapping silverware, filling condiment bottles, etc) and paid even more attention to his section.  He both managed to make the customers like him for the extra attentiveness and to get more tips than his fellow servers, but he'd be gone before the managers ever got to the point of doing anything about it.

See, tipping is a bad system.

/only trying to derail the thread away from racism



Nice try. However there should be no surprise that this guy is black. When 1/3 of your ethnic male dating pool is either in jail or an unemployable felon, it is no surprise that any black male in your community with a job is a relatively hot catch.

*Why* 1/3 of the black male population is rotating through the prison system is a separate matter...
 
2013-09-11 07:22:05 AM
I'm sure he has no problem sleeping at night knowing he left all his chilrens in the responsible hands of the American tax payer. I bet some of them were eventually placed in the responsible hands of correctional officers.

/I think we ended the eugenics debate a little too soon
 
2013-09-11 07:26:18 AM
FTFA: "All I can do right now is be the best father for them I can be and that is that. Whoever can't accept that, you know, Oh well."

Oh well, you farking loser.  Ever hear of a condom?  Thanks for saddling the rest of us with the bill for all of your b*stard children.  Fark you.
 
2013-09-11 07:30:08 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.


This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted on Fark (ignoring conservative derp). It's especially rich because this poster clearly thingks s/he is making a self-evidently intelligent point while completely missing the reason why birth rates are far more relevant to the discussion than raw birth numbers. Wow. Just wow.
 
2013-09-11 08:24:10 AM

TWX: I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...


Huh?
 
2013-09-11 08:39:25 AM
25.media.tumblr.com

"We Bebe's kids, we don't die, we multiply"
 
2013-09-11 08:51:56 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Please excuse that abomination of a post


How cute!  You gave the perfect line with which to have you farkied!
 
TWX
2013-09-11 09:41:09 AM

StrangeQ: TWX: I'll say this much, he was a very charismatic individual.  He had a fair number of friends, and that charisma apparently had a lot to do with his being admitted into heaven without references.  I can't imagine how charismatic the subject of TFA must be, to impregnate that many women, potentially ten of them twice...  One would think, after the first go-around, and probably full-well knowing that this guy has knocked up other women, that it wouldn't be worth a repeat performance...

Huh?


See, sexual-congress-euphemisms...

/figured that would be obvious
//a recently released pop song goes on about being locked out of heaven for too long...
 
2013-09-11 09:51:06 AM

bindlestiff2600: 8Fingers: Ya know what? It is cheaper on society to just shoot him. He has no positive value. Everything about him is a drain on resources. End him!!!

i want to know what the females were thinking.  what made this fella so popular with them?


Bling
 
2013-09-11 10:18:17 AM
Acravius:
Jeepers, you've put quite a lot of thought into this.

My take on it is; what was this man's net effect on the unsupported bastard birthrate in his area?
There are 17 females involved, and I suspect that each one who thought it was a good idea to host this guy's seed probably would have made the same calculation with another deadbeat soon enough. Assuming he didn't use rape or fraud, how much effect could one man have on the local availability of walking sperm donors? It's not like there's a shortage!
 
2013-09-11 11:33:00 AM
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2013-09-11 11:34:46 AM

Fade2black: Internet Meme Rogers: Who knew this thread would bring out all Save Our Tax Dollars From The Welfare Queens assholes? *rolls eyes*

And yet, they've still actively contributed more to the conversation at hand than you have.  At least some people (even if trolling) have the gaul to point out what some might construe as racist or classist; at least it gets the ball rolling on a discussion.  If i had to wager I'd say you're perfectly content with keeping your head in your ass (or, in the sand, as it were).  Thanks for your support!


I don't see what prehistoric France has to do with it.
 
2013-09-11 11:39:24 AM
35 years ago....
 
2013-09-11 11:48:42 AM
Some women are incredibly sexually attracted to prodigious men and can't help themselves -- consequences be damned.  My father sired nine children, and women threw themselves at his feet.  This guy has looks, charisma, and the bad boy factor, all of which only dial up the attraction.

Women like these baby mommas share a bizarre similarity to people trapped in grotesque obesity.
 
2013-09-11 12:03:40 PM

CoonAce: Women like these baby mommas share a bizarre similarity to people trapped in grotesque obesity.


...distended bellies and a penchant for peanut butter?
 
2013-09-11 12:31:15 PM

eiger: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One more time, because you're obviously not very smart - people on welfare are having more kids now than in any point in history.

The overall birth rate is low precisely because the population is high. This doesn't mean that *births* are low (they aren't), just that they're low in comparison to the overall population.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted on Fark (ignoring conservative derp). It's especially rich because this poster clearly thingks s/he is making a self-evidently intelligent point while completely missing the reason why birth rates are far more relevant to the discussion than raw birth numbers. Wow. Just wow.


I think the dude is trolling since he purposefully misunderstood my many attempts to school him.  No way Dow Jones doesn't understand the concept of 'birth rate.'
 
2013-09-11 01:29:32 PM
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Man... ANOTHER Wayans brother?????
 
2013-09-11 03:10:34 PM
The Republicans will never catch up
 
2013-09-12 12:08:57 AM

Acravius: While it is unlikely that he and the women are working full time, and the women probably recieve 1000 a month in WIC, EBT, Welfare and other combinations of assistance, like section 8 housing, utility subsidies,etc. It would be nice to see whether the women are working, have found other guys, or if parents/relatives/friends/neighbors etc are helping in this situations.

Please take into account that without immigration the US population is currently producing 1.3 children/per two adults, and so is actually falling below replacement rate.
~330 million US population, 3.1 million US Born, 935,000 Foriegn Born.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-r e cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/">http://www.pewsocialt rends.org/2012/11/29/u-s-birth-rate-falls-to-a-re cord-low-decline-is-greatest-among-immigrants/

Finally his rate of reproduction, assuming that the women have no other children would be 27/18 (17 women and himself) or 1.5, which is still not all that above the non-immigration average rate of reproduction for the US population.

So obviously he is jerk to the women in all manners of speaking, but his anomolous behaviour is probably not too damaging to the US economy, and at worst would be costing taxpayers (10*$28,000)+(7*20,000)+12,000= $432,000 each year, including average school enrollment for the kids, plus the new health care law. However this number would only be applicable if nobody in the 18 adults were working, there was no family support, no friends working to help out or share apartments with, no recipricol relationship of baby sitting, just lumps sitting in their house, and doing nothing externally, not even spending money from the government, and no multiplier effect of government spending within the economy.
Now if they all worked minimum wage, 1/2 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $432,000 - $180,000 = $252,000
If they worked minimum wage and 3/4 time jobs, the cost to support them drops to $4 ...


You're assuming that the dude is the only non-monogamous person in these relationships.  If Maury has taught me anything, each of these women probably has 10 kids, spread among different fathers.  How does that factor into your economic calculation?
 
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