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(Gawker)   Syrian foreign minister says Syria will declare its chemical weapons arsenal, sign chemical weapons convention. Thanks Obama   (gawker.com) divider line 263
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2013-09-10 04:31:08 PM
This sounds pretty good.
 
2013-09-10 04:35:38 PM
Obama lost because furthermore
 
2013-09-10 04:39:05 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Obama lost because furthermore


And such as
 
2013-09-10 04:44:53 PM
I can breathe a sigh of relief, knowing Syria will go back to conventional killing.
 
2013-09-10 04:45:39 PM
So Obama avoided war, got a rouge nation to give up all of their chemical weapons and successfully worked with Russia with whom relations are strained with at the moment.  All of that while not really spending any money.  Clearly, he was outmaneuvered
 
2013-09-10 04:50:40 PM
 
2013-09-10 04:52:14 PM

SnakeLee: So Obama avoided war, got a rouge nation to give up all of their chemical weapons and successfully worked with Russia with whom relations are strained with at the moment.  All of that while not really spending any money.  Clearly, he was outmaneuvered


Palin'd!!!
 
2013-09-10 04:53:18 PM
Now on Fox News "Obama shows he is weak, is forced to allow Russia to dictate terms".
 
2013-09-10 04:54:13 PM
This is bad news.... for Halliburton.
 
2013-09-10 04:54:31 PM
I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.
 
2013-09-10 04:56:41 PM

mediablitz: Now on Fox News "Obama shows he is weak, is forced to allow Russia to dictate terms".


i guarantee that's what they'll say.
 
2013-09-10 05:02:03 PM
I don't think this was the plan all along, but who knows. I think it was a smart play to make congress go on the record re: war even if I was very much against our involvement. Counts as a win, though how they'll guarantee anything about the stockpile is anyone's guess.

And yeah, now they can go back to shelling children instead of gassing them. Not sure why that's different but I'm just a prole.
 
2013-09-10 05:02:45 PM
Well, that sure was a big ol' fuss over nothing.
 
2013-09-10 05:03:37 PM

DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.


Because obama and such as.
 
2013-09-10 05:05:03 PM

DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.


Really? 5 years of "Everything Obama does is bad" and your still confused?
 
2013-09-10 05:05:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.

Because obama and such as.


Exactly.

Study it out, libs.

Study. It. Out.
 
2013-09-10 05:06:08 PM
Oh great, now how will the war profiteers put food on their family? Hmmmmmmm? Any of you selfish peace freaks ever think of that? Of course not, all you're ever concerned with is yourselves. Bunch of jerk stores
 
2013-09-10 05:06:35 PM

Cletus C.: Well, that sure was a big ol' fuss over nothing.


It is interesting that the "liberal media" never talked about removing the chemical weapons. It was ONLY about attack.

We are a war mongering nation, barely distinguishable for the middle east (other than we do all our killing outside our borders).
 
2013-09-10 05:08:46 PM
Breaking: Republicans are suddenly PRO chemical weapons
 
2013-09-10 05:11:50 PM

Heliovdrake: This sounds pretty good.


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Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet.
 
2013-09-10 05:11:52 PM
Didn't Assad just tell Charlie Rose a couple days ago that he didn't have any chemical weapons? I hope this works, I hope the Assad regime hands over all their chemical weapons to be destroyed. It's worth a shot but I don't trust him whatsoever.
 
2013-09-10 05:12:57 PM
Anyone that still thinks this was all due to John Kerry making an off handed remark I have a bridge to sell you in New York

This was obviously put in action at the G20 retreat, Kerry's "bluff" allows Syria and Russia to save face by appearing to call it.

That being said remember that Libya gave up their nuclear program to the US in 2004 for normalization of relations and we still ended up bombing them

//the similarity between the Libyan AQ Khan gear and Iranian AQ Khan gear allowed us to build Stuxnet
 
2013-09-10 05:13:52 PM

DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.


I think it's a win for Obama.  There will be naysayers, but that's always the case.

As to your second point, anything politicians do is judged on its effect on their and their party's chances for re-election.  It's probably not great that it's that way, but it's the way it is.  There are a lot of things that would really help the nation like banking reform, immigration reform, minimum wage increases, the public option returning to the ACA, improved funding for education and social safety net programs, etc, that can't happen as long as the GOP controls any part of the government.  Anything that helps the Democrats strengthen their position and leads to eventual complete control of the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, is a good t hing.
 
2013-09-10 05:14:58 PM
Obama rattled his sabre, scaring everybody about another war. He then had Kerry mentions off-handedly a peaceful way out- Syria hand over their chemical weapons. The Russians jumped on that idea, and once again Obama proves he's playing 3 dimensional chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers.
 
2013-09-10 05:15:53 PM

violentsalvation: Didn't Assad just tell Charlie Rose a couple days ago that he didn't have any chemical weapons? I hope this works, I hope the Assad regime hands over all their chemical weapons to be destroyed. It's worth a shot but I don't trust him whatsoever.


The clip I saw had him saying that they do not discuss either the existence or non-existence of chemical weapons in their arsenal. Its the same policy Israel has about discussing nukes. Everyone knows both have them.
 
2013-09-10 05:18:38 PM

Dinki: Obama rattled his sabre, scaring everybody about another war. He then had Kerry mentions off-handedly a peaceful way out- Syria hand over their chemical weapons. The Russians jumped on that idea, and once again Obama proves he's playing 3 dimensional chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers.


It did remind me a bit of how he had Biden float the expansion of gay rights to get a public pulse on it before the administration made their big push.
 
2013-09-10 05:20:52 PM

DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.


Dude - you think the GOP was against bombing Assad on some kind of principle? You think they didn't want to see Obama make things go BOOM? They just didn't want him to get any credit for what they beat-off to.
 
2013-09-10 05:21:26 PM
Obama?
newnation.sg

How 'bout a little love for Vlad "The Impaler" Putin?
 
2013-09-10 05:21:27 PM

vygramul: DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.

Dude - you think the GOP was against bombing Assad on some kind of principle? You think they didn't want to see Obama make things go BOOM? They just didn't want him to get any credit for what they beat-off to.


This isn't the GOP though. This is, like, all media acting this way.
 
2013-09-10 05:22:11 PM

DamnYankees: vygramul: DamnYankees: I'm still confused as to why anyone (i) thinks this is a "loss" for Obama or (ii) thinks about foreign policy in terms of political wins and losses and not substantive outcome.

Dude - you think the GOP was against bombing Assad on some kind of principle? You think they didn't want to see Obama make things go BOOM? They just didn't want him to get any credit for what they beat-off to.

This isn't the GOP though. This is, like, all media acting this way.


ODS
 
2013-09-10 05:23:07 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Obama?
[newnation.sg image 468x560]

How 'bout a little love for Vlad "The Impaler" Putin?


Putin was the instrument, Obama was the musician.
 
2013-09-10 05:23:54 PM

Somacandra: violentsalvation: Didn't Assad just tell Charlie Rose a couple days ago that he didn't have any chemical weapons? I hope this works, I hope the Assad regime hands over all their chemical weapons to be destroyed. It's worth a shot but I don't trust him whatsoever.

The clip I saw had him saying that they do not discuss either the existence or non-existence of chemical weapons in their arsenal. Its the same policy Israel has about discussing nukes. Everyone knows both have them.


Right. I also don't trust Assad, but I DO trust him not to fark over Putin.
 
2013-09-10 05:25:00 PM

mediablitz: Somacandra: violentsalvation: Didn't Assad just tell Charlie Rose a couple days ago that he didn't have any chemical weapons? I hope this works, I hope the Assad regime hands over all their chemical weapons to be destroyed. It's worth a shot but I don't trust him whatsoever.

The clip I saw had him saying that they do not discuss either the existence or non-existence of chemical weapons in their arsenal. Its the same policy Israel has about discussing nukes. Everyone knows both have them.

Right. I also don't trust Assad, but I DO trust him not to fark over Putin.


That's basically the only reason I like this plan. Had it been Assad just telling us they'll get rid of them I would not believe it for one second. Assad is counting on this to keep Putin off his ass and stay in power.
 
2013-09-10 05:27:28 PM

zedster: Libya


That's the real win here: Syria is unstable, and has chemical weapons. If the Assad regime collapses, those weapons could fall into the hands of some pretty bad people.

Libya has become a clusterfark. Imagine the horror if their nuke hardware was not sitting in a Tennessee warehouse right now.

That's why everyone should be happy about this outcome.
 
2013-09-10 05:30:06 PM
It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...
 
2013-09-10 05:37:25 PM

hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...


If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.
 
2013-09-10 05:39:59 PM

Tigger: hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...

If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.


MOON BESMIRCHED BY ASTRONAUT PROXIMITY
 
2013-09-10 05:42:53 PM
"Obama was humiliated by Putin's master diplomacy" in 3, 2, 1...
 
2013-09-10 05:44:47 PM

LasersHurt: Tigger: hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...

If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.

MOON BESMIRCHED BY ASTRONAUT PROXIMITY


Dammit, I missed a great opportunity for a "dark side of the moon" joke here.
 
2013-09-10 05:55:25 PM

LasersHurt: LasersHurt: Tigger: hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...

If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.

MOON BESMIRCHED BY ASTRONAUT PROXIMITY

Dammit, I missed a great opportunity for a "dark side of the moon" joke here.


Relax, breathe. We all have our little instances of temporary brain damage. Take a little time, and I'm sure you'll come up with a joke that's just money. And you're not limited to black, either; you can use any colour you like. Your next post is sure to eclipse any other out there.
 
2013-09-10 05:57:23 PM

themindiswatching: "Obama was humiliated by Putin's master diplomacy" in 3, 2, 1...


that was half the other thread from this morning.
 
2013-09-10 06:05:38 PM
I guess Assad studied it out.
 
2013-09-10 06:08:20 PM

violentsalvation: Didn't Assad just tell Charlie Rose a couple days ago that he didn't have any chemical weapons? I hope this works, I hope the Assad regime hands over all their chemical weapons to be destroyed. It's worth a shot but I don't trust him whatsoever.


No body should trust them. But I at least have hope that this turns into situation where UN inspectors are peacefully destroying WMD's. Its better than war.
 
2013-09-10 06:09:22 PM

LasersHurt: Tigger: hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...

If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.

MOON BESMIRCHED BY ASTRONAUT PROXIMITY


astronaut steals moon rock.
 
2013-09-10 06:22:28 PM

Tigger: LasersHurt: Tigger: hubiestubert: It avoids a loss of face for the Russians, it gives Obama a "carry a big stick" win, and it allows the Syrians to not get the sh*t "liberated" out of themselves.

Clearly this is intolerable, so we will see this spun as the horriblest thing to happen since the $63,000,000 dog walking for the First Puppy...

If Neil Armstrong had been black these guys would have declared the Apollo missions to be the low point of American achievement.

MOON BESMIRCHED BY ASTRONAUT PROXIMITY

astronaut steals moon rock.


Since Obama took office, the moon has receded from the earth four inches. By the time he leaves office, it will be almost 7 inches. And by the end of the century, the moon will be an entire 7 feet further from earth than when Obama took office.

And there's nothing we can do about it.

Fark you, Obama.
 
2013-09-10 06:24:53 PM
No deal unless they give back Ilya Kovalchuk.
 
2013-09-10 06:25:45 PM
This is Obama's Battle of Puget Sound.
 
2013-09-10 06:29:04 PM
Prince Bandar just threw his goblet of Crown Royal across the plushly carpeted man cave in his palace.
 
2013-09-10 06:29:31 PM
Obama is literally Hitler now.
 
2013-09-10 06:30:01 PM
Hey let's wait until the weapons are declared and handed over before we debate on whether it's a win/lose.
 
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