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(National Geographic)   Mammoths died out because of 1) overhunting by humans 2) climate change or 3) an exploding comet ignited continent-wide wildfires, sent 100 MPH winds and tornadoes howling across the land, while also maybe gouging out the Great Lakes?   (news.nationalgeographic.com) divider line 62
    More: Interesting, comets, Younger Dryas, mammoths, Earth, Southern Illinois University, meltwaters, bolide, Cretaceous Period  
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2013-09-10 04:56:05 PM  
I'm going with overhunting by humans.
 
2013-09-10 04:58:21 PM  
Noah couldn't fit them on the ark.
 
2013-09-10 05:13:34 PM  
They all became allergic to dandruff and died out in one generation,
 
2013-09-10 05:26:11 PM  
I'm selling the Great Lakes idea.
 
2013-09-10 05:34:06 PM  
Gluten allergies.
 
2013-09-10 05:38:55 PM  
4) Who the hell really knows.....
 
2013-09-10 06:01:29 PM  
Gum disease.
 
2013-09-10 06:06:33 PM  
In other news, a "comet of the century" will arrive at year's end. Unless it... ...umm ... ...blows up first.

Oh my.

Link
 
2013-09-10 06:09:34 PM  
If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?
 
2013-09-10 06:10:01 PM  

mediablitz: I'm going with overhunting by humans.


I thought the evidence had been tilting towards humans didn't do much more than the occasional scavenging of already dead mammoths.
 
2013-09-10 06:20:37 PM  

meat0918: mediablitz: I'm going with overhunting by humans.

I thought the evidence had been tilting towards humans didn't do much more than the occasional scavenging of already dead mammoths.


I was moving towards a "Jesus riding dinosaurs" joke but phoned it in...
 
2013-09-10 06:26:14 PM  

timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?


Nah, that's why the mammoths are gone, we killed them all for the skins to keep warm.
 
2013-09-10 06:49:21 PM  
I am going with a freak mathematical improbability where a whole generation of mammoth were born male.
 
2013-09-10 06:51:41 PM  

meat0918: mediablitz: I'm going with overhunting by humans.

I thought the evidence had been tilting towards humans didn't do much more than the occasional scavenging of already dead mammoths.


No, we are so awesomely scary, we ate them whole. HSS! HSS! HSS!
 
2013-09-10 07:00:19 PM  

timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?


There is evidence that something caused the Clovis people of North America to go into decline around that time. We were too clever to go completely extinct, but SOMETHING caused major problems for the Clovis around that time.
 
2013-09-10 07:00:52 PM  
The answer is C.  Where is C?
 
2013-09-10 07:08:35 PM  

Mad_Radhu: timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?

There is evidence that something caused the Clovis people of North America to go into decline around that time. We were too clever to go completely extinct, but SOMETHING caused major problems for the Clovis around that time.


Yeah, that thing being they'd just hunted the megafauna they depended on to extinction.

The archaeologists say humans wouldn't overhunt their food like that, had to be climate change. The paleontologists say the megafauna had already survived a dozen deglaciations without a hitch, the only thing that changed was humans. And nobody believes the crazy comet people.

/geologist
 
2013-09-10 07:09:14 PM  
The case is pretty conclusive that, at least in North America, we hunted them pretty much to extinction.
 
2013-09-10 07:11:59 PM  
Someone spilled beer on the server that rendered them.

media.aintitcool.com
 
2013-09-10 07:12:05 PM  
Mammoths were actually aliens sent to monitor our progress as a species, and they all left because we elected Obama.

/study it out.
 
2013-09-10 07:14:32 PM  
Putin killed the mammoths.
 
2013-09-10 07:20:06 PM  
c) peanut allergy
 
2013-09-10 07:20:40 PM  
Comments section at the bottom is hilarious!

Science!
 
2013-09-10 07:22:46 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Mad_Radhu: timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?

There is evidence that something caused the Clovis people of North America to go into decline around that time. We were too clever to go completely extinct, but SOMETHING caused major problems for the Clovis around that time.

Yeah, that thing being they'd just hunted the megafauna they depended on to extinction.

The archaeologists say humans wouldn't overhunt their food like that, had to be climate change. The paleontologists say the megafauna had already survived a dozen deglaciations without a hitch, the only thing that changed was humans. And nobody believes the crazy comet people.

/geologist


In a documentary based on Jared Diamond's 'Guns, Germs and Steel', they make an argument that the disruption of the Clovis people at the time period corresponds to a mass immigration of people from the fertile crescent and into Europe and Asia. They use the comet theory to support this, and surmise it may have broken up and struck simultaneously in Canada and Syria.

But you're a geologist and Diamond was a bird watcher, so I guess I'll just believe you.
 
2013-09-10 07:24:35 PM  

unitednihilists: Comments section at the bottom is hilarious!

Science!


Hah, thanks, I rarely read comments out "in the wild", but that guy with his "100 evidences" for the Great Flood is comedy gold.
 
2013-09-10 07:34:23 PM  

Cytokine Storm: Mammoths were actually aliens sent to monitor our progress as a species, and they all left because we elected Obama.

/study it out.


They'll be back.
www.sffaudio.com
 
2013-09-10 07:38:51 PM  
Many large, long lived herbivores in North America went into after the last Ice Age due to the mass proliferation of new types of grass. The grass that took over around that time had a higher proportion of silica in it, and it ground down the teeth of large herbivores faster.

Many mammoths and other creatures show signs of severe premature dental wear, which we believe led to overall shorter average lifespans, and added significant pressure to populations.

Combined with major catastrophic enviromental events such as eruptions and this comet, as well as greatly increased human predation thanks to the development of tools adequate enough to reliably kill them, and a lot of large megafauna went extinct.

Its NOT the comet. Its NOT humans hunting them to extinction. Its NOT changing ecosystems.


It was all of the above combining that killed them off.
 
2013-09-10 07:42:59 PM  
Dying is bad, ipso facto climate change is to blame.

Case closed.
 
2013-09-10 07:44:11 PM  

dittybopper: The case is pretty conclusive that, at least in North America, we hunted them pretty much to extinction.


What do you mean we?
You mean the living-in-harmony-with-nature natives that the rest of us should aspire to emulate caused the extinction? What other lies have we been told about them?
 
2013-09-10 07:45:51 PM  

SevenizGud: Dying is bad, ipso facto climate change is to blame.

Case closed.


Please don't threadjack.
 
2013-09-10 07:48:19 PM  
Mammoth syphilis, spread by some slut with really sexy tusks.
 
2013-09-10 07:50:06 PM  
Can I blame it on Obama or Bush?
 
2013-09-10 07:50:58 PM  

MarkEC: You mean the living-in-harmony-with-nature natives that the rest of us should aspire to emulate caused the extinction? What other lies have we been told about them?


I'm sure you are trolling but if not (as I am sure there are people who believe this) are you seriously comparing the cultures of people living 12,000 years apart?
 
2013-09-10 07:51:19 PM  

Mr. Titanium: Can I blame it on Obama or Bush?


maybe Reagan
 
2013-09-10 07:52:11 PM  

serial arseonist: c) peanut allergy


Nice.
 
2013-09-10 07:52:40 PM  

RecentGrad: Mr. Titanium: Can I blame it on Obama or Bush?

maybe Reagan


Come on, Reagan was only 10 when the mammoths died out.
 
2013-09-10 07:57:35 PM  

Bootysama: MarkEC: You mean the living-in-harmony-with-nature natives that the rest of us should aspire to emulate caused the extinction? What other lies have we been told about them?

I'm sure you are trolling but if not (as I am sure there are people who believe this) are you seriously comparing the cultures of people living 12,000 years apart?


Your sarcasm detector needs an alignment. Sarcasm does not equal trolling.
 If I had posted it in Comic Sans would your detector have worked?
 
2013-09-10 08:05:11 PM  
The fact that megafauna didn't go extinct in Africa where they would have had millions of years to adapt to human ancestors but went extinct everywhere else shortly after the arrival of modern humans strongly implies that humans were a major factor.
 
2013-09-10 08:07:49 PM  
Anthropogenic Global Warming is clearly to blame.
All of those tar pits on fire...
 
2013-09-10 08:08:53 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Mad_Radhu: timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?

There is evidence that something caused the Clovis people of North America to go into decline around that time. We were too clever to go completely extinct, but SOMETHING caused major problems for the Clovis around that time.

Yeah, that thing being they'd just hunted the megafauna they depended on to extinction.

The archaeologists say humans wouldn't overhunt their food like that, had to be climate change. The paleontologists say the megafauna had already survived a dozen deglaciations without a hitch, the only thing that changed was humans. And nobody believes the crazy comet people.

/geologist


We wouldn't over hunt or couldn't? I'm not so sure I could believe that people wouldn't.
 
2013-09-10 08:27:41 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-10 08:29:12 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Mad_Radhu: timujin: If there were such an impact followed by those conditions, wouldn't it have wiped out the humans in North America, too?

There is evidence that something caused the Clovis people of North America to go into decline around that time. We were too clever to go completely extinct, but SOMETHING caused major problems for the Clovis around that time.

Yeah, that thing being they'd just hunted the megafauna they depended on to extinction.

The archaeologists say humans wouldn't overhunt their food like that, had to be climate change. The paleontologists say the megafauna had already survived a dozen deglaciations without a hitch, the only thing that changed was humans. And nobody believes the crazy comet people.

/geologist


But geology is just liquor and guessing. I'll believe you if your liver survives the week.

/also a geologist
//and paleontologist
///where's the whiskey?
 
2013-09-10 08:53:15 PM  

MarkEC: dittybopper: The case is pretty conclusive that, at least in North America, we hunted them pretty much to extinction.

What do you mean we?
You mean the living-in-harmony-with-nature natives that the rest of us should aspire to emulate caused the extinction? What other lies have we been told about them?


struckbyenlightning.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-10 09:01:40 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Cytokine Storm: Mammoths were actually aliens sent to monitor our progress as a species, and they all left because we elected Obama.

/study it out.

They'll be back.


Drop the Foot, Traveling Fithp, see how humans respond.
 
2013-09-10 09:58:00 PM  
I've always favored the "Blitzkrieg" theory for the human invasion of the Americas.

1) The invaders came from Alaska where animal-flesh was the main diet component.
2) They encountered easy to kill dumb megafauna and were probably quite wasteful in their use of kills because more meat on the hoof was just over the next hills.
3) Bands would leapfrog each other to get to areas that hadn't been touched yet.

As a result the Americas were very rapidly populated. There must have been a real cultural shock when the bands found that they were no longer living in an all-you-can-eat buffet and had to settle down and figure out other ways to feed themselves.
 
2013-09-10 11:02:14 PM  
I'm going with overhunting by humans.D) They're tasty.  And they feed a tribe.
 
2013-09-10 11:20:04 PM  
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2013-09-10 11:24:28 PM  
pinkie.ponychan.net
 
2013-09-11 12:41:15 AM  
So, anyone have any good information on what the hell DID form the great lakes?
 
2013-09-11 02:40:58 AM  

abb3w: So, anyone have any good information on what the hell DID form the great lakes?


Glaciers. Very, very BIG glaciers. As in several miles thick. When they melted, the flood created the Badlands. Ice sheets forming the Great Lakes is a widely accepted theory, supported by quite a lot of evidence.

/Google...
 
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