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(Daily Mail)   The Zeppelin makes a comeback. Because they worked out so well the last times   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 176
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2013-09-10 03:00:34 PM  
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.

Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-09-10 03:02:28 PM  
Who's going to be on drums?
 
2013-09-10 03:03:01 PM  
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2013-09-10 03:05:01 PM  
I'd love an Airship cruise. I always get nostalgic for a bygone age when seeing those old reels of Zeppelins cruising around the scenic Europe.
 
2013-09-10 03:07:37 PM  
Blimps are terrible!
 
2013-09-10 03:14:04 PM  
I dunno, they were pretty good up until maybe Houses of the Holy.
 
2013-09-10 03:18:14 PM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

If James Bond hadn't gotten all serious, I'd be looking forward to seeing one of his villains in this.
 
2013-09-10 03:23:35 PM  
Did they steal the idea from older Zeppelins?
 
2013-09-10 03:25:37 PM  
Interesting, I'd read that Plant no longer had the vocal range to do their old songs.
 
2013-09-10 03:26:33 PM  
John Bonham:  Moby Dick
 
2013-09-10 03:27:11 PM  
Isn't this a pretty big waste of helium, a dwindling and hard-to-replace resource?
 
2013-09-10 03:27:38 PM  
The first ones only failed because they weren't made of lead.
 
2013-09-10 03:27:40 PM  
RedPhoenix122
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.
Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.


Because there is so much helium left to use.

\This is sort of like finding a small village in the Sahara desert and taking a bath.
 
2013-09-10 03:27:56 PM  
Led ones don't float.
 
2013-09-10 03:28:01 PM  
Out of curiosity, is there any scientific reason they don't mix hydrogen and helium together with helium being the dominant? I ask, because I wonder if there's more lifting power available by adding hydrogen and getting the benefit of an inert gas like helium in the mixture, rendering the hydrogen unable to burn in the atmospheric pressure. Just thinking out loud.
 
2013-09-10 03:28:11 PM  

Irving Maimway: I'd love an Airship cruise. I always get nostalgic for a bygone age when seeing those old reels of Zeppelins cruising around the scenic Europe.


So much this.
 
2013-09-10 03:28:13 PM  
do they come from a land of the ice and snow?
 
2013-09-10 03:28:28 PM  

Lochsteppe: Isn't this a pretty big waste of helium, a dwindling and hard-to-replace resource?


Certainly no worse than kids' birthday balloons.
 
2013-09-10 03:28:40 PM  
Their safety record in the parallel universe is unsurpassed.
 
2013-09-10 03:29:14 PM  

Irving Maimway: I'd love an Airship cruise. I always get nostalgic for a bygone age when seeing those old reels of Zeppelins cruising around the scenic Europe.


Oh yeah?  Do you know who else loved Zeppelins?

/I kid
 
2013-09-10 03:30:13 PM  
Oh, the stupidity!
 
2013-09-10 03:31:31 PM  
came for the Archer reference. Leaving happy.
 
2013-09-10 03:32:05 PM  
farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2013-09-10 03:32:51 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: Irving Maimway: I'd love an Airship cruise. I always get nostalgic for a bygone age when seeing those old reels of Zeppelins cruising around the scenic Europe.

Oh yeah?  Do you know who else loved Zeppelins?

/I kid


Hipplers?
 
2013-09-10 03:33:07 PM  

Enemabag Jones: RedPhoenix122
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.
Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.

Because there is so much helium left to use.

\This is sort of like finding a small village in the Sahara desert and taking a bath.


There is actually tons of helium that could be extracted, its just that current helium supplies are so insanely cheap that its more cost effective to just vent it off into the atmosphere then to process it.
 
2013-09-10 03:33:08 PM  

Snapper Carr: came for the Archer reference. Leaving happy.


All roads lead to Archer.  Seems like you can't have a submission without an Archer picture.
 
2013-09-10 03:34:02 PM  
Dredd Zepplin.

Led Zepplin music, set to a reggea beat, with an Elvis impersonator as the lead singer:

eil.com
 
2013-09-10 03:34:18 PM  

Rapmaster2000: John Bonham:  Moby Dick


If I could have theme music whenever I walked into a room, that'd be it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-10 03:35:15 PM  
They make a come back every ten years or so.
 
2013-09-10 03:35:58 PM  

Sybarite: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x297]

If James Bond hadn't gotten all serious, I'd be looking forward to seeing one of his villains in this.


bondambitions.com
 
2013-09-10 03:36:11 PM  

unitednihilists: Seems like you can't have a submission without an Archer picture.


There's an ocelot of them.
 
2013-09-10 03:36:16 PM  
Their concert at the O2 in 2007 was fantastic, so I bet this show will be just as great.
 
2013-09-10 03:36:36 PM  

Lochsteppe: Isn't this a pretty big waste of helium, a dwindling and hard-to-replace resource?



You'd rather it be used to inflate novelty Mylar balloons?
 
2013-09-10 03:36:51 PM  
www.huxter.org
 
2013-09-10 03:36:51 PM  

RedPhoenix122: I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.

Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x298]


Too bad there's a looming helium shortage
 
2013-09-10 03:36:55 PM  
thirty six people died... 36.
there was probably a bush crash today that killed more folks.
 
2013-09-10 03:38:20 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Out of curiosity, is there any scientific reason they don't mix hydrogen and helium together with helium being the dominant? I ask, because I wonder if there's more lifting power available by adding hydrogen and getting the benefit of an inert gas like helium in the mixture, rendering the hydrogen unable to burn in the atmospheric pressure. Just thinking out loud.


Maybe because they would separate. You'd have hydrogen on the top part of the envelope and helium below. I suppose you could keep them mixed with fans (but you're inviting disaster should your gas composition become unbalanced).

I've always wondered why not consider having separate envelops? An outer one containing satisfying helium, and and inner containing chewy hydrogen. Hydrogen is harmless without oxygen (and a few other things of little consequence... and as long as you don't compress it to the point of fusion).
 
2013-09-10 03:38:57 PM  
USGS estimates that there is only a tiny 52.9 billion cubic meters of helium left (a little over 20 billion in the US and a little over 30 billion in the rest of the world, with a big chunk in Qatar), which is only enough for another 300 years of helium use at current rates.
 
2013-09-10 03:39:13 PM  
I'd like to board that airship, but there's no stairway.
 
2013-09-10 03:39:19 PM  

Nightjars: Led ones don't float.


Oh, yeah?
www.futuresack.com
 
2013-09-10 03:39:21 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-09-10 03:39:22 PM  
Monty845
Enemabag Jones: RedPhoenix122
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.
Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.
Because there is so much helium left to use.
\This is sort of like finding a small village in the Sahara desert and taking a bath.
There is actually tons of helium that could be extracted, its just that current helium supplies are so insanely cheap that its more cost effective to just vent it off into the atmosphere then to process it.


Unless something has changed in six years with the extraction of natural gas, either the you are confused or the helium shortage is old information and a myth:
From 2007:
Link

Please document your assertions.
 
2013-09-10 03:39:44 PM  
what the why?!


you know those compressed air tanks that helium often comes in? they're $900 a tank! (not sure exact size - but they're 4-5 ft tall usually)
and the prices are only going to continue to spike as the resource runs out.
what a farking waste.
 
2013-09-10 03:40:26 PM  

Enemabag Jones: RedPhoenix122
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.
Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.

Because there is so much helium left to use.

\This is sort of like finding a small village in the Sahara desert and taking a bath.


There's plenty of helium available, since it's a byproduct of natural gas production. The US government is getting out of the biz, but if there's a market and demand, some private company or companies will no doubt step in to supply it.
 
2013-09-10 03:40:58 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
Denied.
 
2013-09-10 03:41:33 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Out of curiosity, is there any scientific reason they don't mix hydrogen and helium together with helium being the dominant? I ask, because I wonder if there's more lifting power available by adding hydrogen and getting the benefit of an inert gas like helium in the mixture, rendering the hydrogen unable to burn in the atmospheric pressure. Just thinking out loud.


That's called shelium.  It becomes really volatile once a month.
 
2013-09-10 03:41:39 PM  
Just make sure you have your ticket on you or they throw you out the window.
 
2013-09-10 03:41:44 PM  
"The key technological breakthrough came when the firm's founder Igor Pasternak came up with a way to compress helium, which allows the airship to control its weight."

Say what ?!?

What's so special about compressing a gas ? Gases can be be compressed easily, why did Mr. Pasternak have to come up with a way to do it ? surely, we already had the technology...

I would understand if it said that it could control it's volume, or it's density. But the weight (or more accurately mass) ? that's just dependent on how much helium is in the envelope, you can carry more by compressing it, but wouldn't that also make the airship less buoyant ?
 
2013-09-10 03:41:47 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Monty845
Enemabag Jones: RedPhoenix122
I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.
Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.
Because there is so much helium left to use.
\This is sort of like finding a small village in the Sahara desert and taking a bath.
There is actually tons of helium that could be extracted, its just that current helium supplies are so insanely cheap that its more cost effective to just vent it off into the atmosphere then to process it.

Unless something has changed in six years with the extraction of natural gas, either the you are confused or the helium shortage is old information and a myth:
From 2007:
Link

Please document your assertions.


USGS.gov points out that there's about 50,000 million cubic meters of helium left and we're going through about 175 million cubic meters of the stuff each year.
 
2013-09-10 03:41:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: I like this idea, since they're using helium instead of hydrogen.

Now if only they can make it look like this, I'd be happy.


I always thought that thing was damn sexy.
 
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