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(Huffington Post)   Richard Dawkins wins yet another "You're Not Helping" Award   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2013-09-10 12:42:57 PM  
Nice to see he's joined the company of heavyweight intellectuals such as Whoopi Gooldberg and Todd Aikin in being able to clarify what's meant by sexual assault. But the parsing in this thread will be absolutely spectacular, I'm sure.
 
2013-09-10 12:45:24 PM  
He said the most notorious cases of pedophilia involve rape and even murder and should not be bracketed with what he called "just mild touching up."

Yes, some offenses are worse.  But really - who doesn't understand that molesting a child is wrong?
 
2013-09-10 12:57:11 PM  
I remember when people defended elevatorgate.

Those were some interesting times.
 
2013-09-10 01:02:24 PM  
Mild pedophilia

It's not "rape rape"
 
2013-09-10 01:05:33 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: But really - who doesn't understand that molesting a child is wrong?


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2013-09-10 01:06:54 PM  
So, this raises no interesting point or adds any data.
 
2013-09-10 01:07:05 PM  
This may be the first time I find myself disagreeing with Dawkins.  I've always considered him an ass, but he is usually an ass that I agree with.

Some acts are more severe than others, certainly...but none are "mild."
 
2013-09-10 01:10:43 PM  
I'm never watching "Family Feud" again!
 
2013-09-10 01:11:28 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm never watching "Family Feud" again!



Deep cut, nice!
 
2013-09-10 01:11:43 PM  
He has a mantle full of those awards.
 
2013-09-10 01:12:17 PM  
I think he liked it.
 
2013-09-10 01:13:16 PM  

SilentStrider: He has a mantle full of those awards.


I'm curious (since google only shows "persecuted christians" whining about him) what exactly is on his mantle?
 
2013-09-10 01:16:22 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm never watching "Family Feud" again!


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Suddenly it seems so obvious...
 
2013-09-10 01:30:03 PM  
Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I'm thinking he's not seeing the denial aspect of it.
 
2013-09-10 01:35:19 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: This may be the first time I find myself disagreeing with Dawkins.  I've always considered him an ass, but he is usually an ass that I agree with.

Some acts are more severe than others, certainly...but none are "mild."




I feel very similar.
 
2013-09-10 01:36:48 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I'm thinking he's not seeing the denial aspect of it.


There is a god?
 
2013-09-10 01:40:33 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I'm thinking he's not seeing the denial aspect of it.


Not having gone to a boarding school in England, but based on stories I have read, this behaviour was not far from the norm.
 
2013-09-10 01:44:21 PM  
Finally! Something he and the Catholic Church can agree on!
 
2013-09-10 01:46:17 PM  
He said the most notorious cases of pedophilia involve rape and even murder and should not be bracketed with what he called "just mild touching up."

So if I promise to put just the tip in we're cool?

Thanks, Richard!
 
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2013-09-10 01:46:50 PM  
It sounds like he has decided to become Catholic.
 
2013-09-10 01:48:24 PM  

gilgigamesh: He said the most notorious cases of pedophilia involve rape and even murder and should not be bracketed with what he called "just mild touching up."

So if I promise to put just the tip in we're cool?

Thanks, Richard!


I don't know what betting pool he's involved with but I want no part of it.
 
2013-09-10 01:51:10 PM  
What some call molestation, others call an awakening.

/po-tay-to, po-tah-to
 
2013-09-10 01:52:35 PM  
He's an arrogant, self-centered cock. Of course he wins yet another "You're Not Helping" award. He and Bono should go circle jerk each other or something and leave the rest of us alone.
 
2013-09-10 01:52:47 PM  
"But we know that the victims of sexual abuse suffer the same effects whether it was 50 years ago or yesterday."

Yes, because people NEVER heal, especially when they are not allowed to by people that know BETTER than they do as to how bad they should feel....FOREVER!
 
2013-09-10 01:52:50 PM  
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2013-09-10 01:53:07 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.


I think that's basically it. I don't think he's saying it's ever ok, just that he wasn't permanently traumatized by it, and somehow managed to go on to live a productive life making people turn purple with outrage.

Then again, people are pretty deaf to nuance when it comes to discussions about child abuse.  It's sort of like when Republicans discuss rape.  He probably should shut up about it.
 
2013-09-10 01:53:28 PM  
Shut the fark up, Richard.
 
2013-09-10 01:53:51 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I'm thinking he's not seeing the denial aspect of it.


People are affected to different degrees by this sort of thing.  Mild touching can mess up a kid for life or they can shrug it off.  I suspect most shrug it off just as I suspect there's a lot more of it about than is reported.
 
2013-09-10 01:54:27 PM  
What do brussel sprouts and anal sex have in common?
 
2013-09-10 01:55:39 PM  
www.eatmorechiles.com

My pedophilia was somewhere between Anaheim and Poblano. Very mild, sweet on the back end. Good mouthfeel, you know?
 
2013-09-10 01:56:01 PM  

give me doughnuts: What do brussel sprouts and anal sex have in common?


They're both better with butter?
 
2013-09-10 01:56:45 PM  
FTA: "He said other children in his school peer group had been molested by the same teacher but concluded: "I don't think he did any of us lasting harm."

That he holds that thought contradicts that thought.
 
2013-09-10 01:56:52 PM  
Sounds like some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
 
2013-09-10 01:57:33 PM  
If it was a religious boarding school, that would go a long way towards explaining the aggressive degree of Dawkins' atheism.

Interesting that he thinks it didn't effect him.
 
2013-09-10 01:57:34 PM  
Somehow I think Dawkins is revving up to tie this into another diatribe.  "Well I was molested at public school, but that was part of the culture there and nobody was really denying it was going on, it was accepted and we weren't being being hypocritical about it unlike those awful Church scandals."

That, or Dawkins is about to to have a major personal scandal and is preparing a pre-emptory defense.  It is absolutely amazing how many famous figures in the UK have been taken down lately....
 
2013-09-10 01:57:39 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I'm thinking he's not seeing the denial aspect of it.


Is that what's caused his hatred of religion perhaps? Unpossible!
 
2013-09-10 01:58:21 PM  
Some actions or incidents may not be as damaging to some individuals as they are to others.
Doesn't mean we can leave it to the pedophile to make a judgment call.
 
2013-09-10 02:00:10 PM  
When I was around 6 I had a ~17 year old babysitter who used to make me play with her tits.  My mom would drop us off at the sitter's parents house, and she would take us all out to the pool in the back yard.  While my sisters played in the shallow end, she would carry me out to the deep end, turn her back to the girls, and pull her tits out of her bikini top.  I'd play with them for several minutes at a time.  I distinctly remember another time where she was watching me at our house.  It was just me and her that day, and she took her shirt and bra off, and bent over the couch.  I remember crawling under her tits and playing with/sucking on them for what seemed like an eternity.  I'm still angry about it to this day-angry that she wasn't my sitter when I was around 13.
 
2013-09-10 02:00:38 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm never watching "Family Feud" again!


But I loved him in The Running Man
 
2013-09-10 02:00:55 PM  

give me doughnuts: What do brussel sprouts and anal sex have in common?


What are two things that have never been in my kitchen?
 
2013-09-10 02:01:02 PM  

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2013-09-10 02:01:44 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: give me doughnuts: What do brussel sprouts and anal sex have in common?

They're both better with butter?


i.qkme.me

Why does this photo already exist?
 
2013-09-10 02:02:36 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: give me doughnuts: What do brussel sprouts and anal sex have in common?

They're both better with butter?


god. damn. funny.
 
2013-09-10 02:02:51 PM  
As an old boy of a traditional English public school, I am OUTRAGED that Richard Dawkins claims that mild pedophilia was common during our school days. It was RELATIVELY RARE!, at least when perpetrated by the masters. What happened in the house dormitories at night stayed in the house dormitories at night. After all, you don't win a world empire without being able to take orders, and the first place you learn to take orders is when a sixth former bends you over a writing desk and gives you a jolly right buggering! Whence do you think Wellington got his spunk? From being CODDLED?

Yrs, sincerely,

Rear Adm. James E.B. Hotheringflop, K.B.E. (ret.)
 
2013-09-10 02:03:27 PM  
How DARE he not say he is permanently scarred for life by that experience!!!
 
2013-09-10 02:03:46 PM  
So you all are saying he isn't allowed an opinion about his own personal experiences if it conflicts with your vague generalities?
 
2013-09-10 02:05:04 PM  

Arthen: So you all are saying he isn't allowed an opinion about his own personal experiences if it conflicts with your vague generalities genitals?


FTFY
 
2013-09-10 02:06:22 PM  
Personally, I think Richard Dawkins has kind of lost a step since he left "Family Feud."
 
2013-09-10 02:06:48 PM  

OneFretAway: Darth_Lukecash: Apparently, everyone misses that Dawkins says he was molested...and wasn't affected by it.

I think that's basically it. I don't think he's saying it's ever ok, just that he wasn't permanently traumatized by it, and somehow managed to go on to live a productive life making people turn purple with outrage.

Then again, people are pretty deaf to nuance when it comes to discussions about child abuse.  It's sort of like when Republicans discuss rape.  He probably should shut up about it.


Nope. He's saying it is alright. He very explicitly says that NOBODY was affected by "mild pedophilia". He's doubling down on what he's said many times starting with "The God Delusion", other interviews, and his cranky-old-man Twitter feed. Teaching kids about religion, according to his writings, is worse abuse than any sort of sexual abuse.

Add this to the "Dear Muslima" crap, his repulsive old-school upper-class sexism, his refusal to attend any event where Rebecca Watson is allowed and you get a really ugly picture. But he has what passes for rock star status among "New Atheists", so a huge part of the community still excuses him.
 
2013-09-10 02:06:58 PM  

doubled99: How DARE he not say he is permanently scarred for life by that experience!!!


That's what I'm not getting here. He is a victim, he's not advocating that it happen. Oh well, it's really just another excuse to hate on Dawkins.
 
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