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(Sports Illustrated)   Sepp Blatte on giving Qatar the 2022 World Cup: "It may well be that we made a mistake at the time." Obvious tag falls to the pitch writhing in pain, but immediately gets up once it's been carried by stretcher to the sideline   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 35
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2013-09-10 11:37:03 AM  
If he was REALLY sorry, he'd hold the bidding process again. Course, I am not seeing that happen, so...meh.
 
2013-09-10 11:38:00 AM  
Nice headline, subby.
 
2013-09-10 11:40:28 AM  
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2013-09-10 11:45:54 AM  
FTFA:
"The World Cup is FIFA's biggest, if not only, global event. Who are we, the Europeans, to demand that this event has to cater to the needs of 800 million Europeans above all?

Really? Sounds like UEFA may be pulling out of FIFA with a comment like that.

I'm sorry, but UEFA has the best soccer in the world, so maybe you should try to keep them happy, first and foremost. I don't hear MLS biatching when the World Cup disrupts their summer schedule. They realize where they stand in the pecking order and deal with it.
 
2013-09-10 12:04:31 PM  

kidgenius: FTFA:
"The World Cup is FIFA's biggest, if not only, global event. Who are we, the Europeans, to demand that this event has to cater to the needs of 800 million Europeans above all?

Really? Sounds like UEFA may be pulling out of FIFA with a comment like that.


This; UEFA has the Champions League which attracts worldwide attention AND the Euros which is perhaps the most watched international tournament outside of the World Cup itself.  It's literally printing its own money from both tournaments.  UEFA can survive (and thrive) without FIFA; the other way around?  Not so much.

So Blatter and his cronies can talk about "accomodating" all they like, but when push comes to shove they'll have to answer this question from UEFA: "How are you going to make up for all the money we're going to lose by accommodating you?"

Don't think FIFA has that much money to do that.
 
2013-09-10 12:04:48 PM  
Why would he care? He's got his cut of the bribe money and will probably be retiring to his mansion in the Alps. It's a problem some one else can deal with in the coming years.
 
2013-09-10 12:06:22 PM  

kidgenius: FTFA:
"The World Cup is FIFA's biggest, if not only, global event. Who are we, the Europeans, to demand that this event has to cater to the needs of 800 million Europeans above all?

Really? Sounds like UEFA may be pulling out of FIFA with a comment like that.

I'm sorry, but UEFA has the best soccer in the world, so maybe you should try to keep them happy, first and foremost. I don't hear MLS biatching when the World Cup disrupts their summer schedule. They realize where they stand in the pecking order and deal with it.


Blatter has been pushing the MLS to change its schedule to work with the FIFA schedule for years.

And now Blatter wants to change the FIFA schedule to accommodate a winter WC because the checks cleared.

Blatter's audacity is impressive.
 
2013-09-10 12:08:20 PM  
If only there was a very large and very rich country with many stadiums that had bid. It would also be nice if said country had hosted one before. To bad no such country had bid.
 
2013-09-10 12:17:25 PM  
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/approves
 
2013-09-10 12:25:33 PM  
Call me crazy, but wouldn't basic logistics questions like "when would the tournament take place?" and "what stadiums do you propose to use?" be a fundamental part of the bidding process that one might expect the winning bid to have compelling answers for? Does anybody know what FIFA's official answer on what they saw to make the Qatar bid so compelling is?

And yes, I do know what the unofficial answer is. It's also the answer to the question, "Tell me, Sepp, what first attracted you to the billionaire rulers of Qatar?". Even the IOC was probably embarrassed for FIFA over this one.
 
2013-09-10 12:29:08 PM  
FIFA's official answer is that they're trying to grow the sport in new markets.

It doesn't really hold water, but that's the official reason.
 
2013-09-10 12:36:53 PM  
I love how he ties this up in a multi-culti "Europe doesn't run the world anymore" statement, with a not-so-subtle dig at the English.  Then dials it back a notch to "Europe and South America aren't the only places with football fans anymore".

Keep talking, Sepp.  The more you say the stupider you look.

I'd take an even-money bet *right now* that the US is going to host in 2022.

/copypasted from the other greened thread that will probably get ungreened.
 
2013-09-10 12:43:23 PM  

czetie: Call me crazy, but wouldn't basic logistics questions like "when would the tournament take place?" and "what stadiums do you propose to use?" be a fundamental part of the bidding process that one might expect the winning bid to have compelling answers for? Does anybody know what FIFA's official answer on what they saw to make the Qatar bid so compelling is?

And yes, I do know what the unofficial answer is. It's also the answer to the question, "Tell me, Sepp, what first attracted you to the billionaire rulers of Qatar?". Even the IOC was probably embarrassed for FIFA over this one.


Currently Qatar only had 3 stadiums which would be acceptable. Their bid included a total of 12 stadiums, 9 of which will require construction. Regarding the summer months, the Executive Summary of the submitted Qatari bid included this statement

"However, the fact that the competition is planned in June/July, the two hottest months of the year in this region, has to be considered as a potential health risk for players, officials, the FIFA family and spectators, and requires precautions to be taken."

Implying that bids would be evaluated on the assumption of a June/July WC. It's documented. Handy waveyy 'well, what we REEEALLLLY meant was just that that was kind of sort of the plan but we could move it if we want' is really contradicted by what they've put down in writing regarding bid evaluations.
 
2013-09-10 12:51:32 PM  

Moopy Mac: Blatter has been pushing the MLS to change its schedule to work with the FIFA schedule for years.


Then I challenge Blatter to stand outside in nothing but a kit in Chicago for 90 minutes on a cold, cold day in February.

There's a reason that MLS plays in the summer, and it's not even because of the NFL.  It's because North American winters are brutal compared to almost anywhere in Europe except Russia.  If we did a "normal" soccer schedule, we'd probably have to take an almost 3 month break like they do in the motherland.

/yes, yes, they do play the other football in winter.  It's a different game, and snow is kind of a part of the sport's culture, not something that makes it impossible to play like with soccer.
 
2013-09-10 12:54:59 PM  

Gonz: FIFA's official answer is that they're trying to grow the sport in new markets.

It doesn't really hold water, but that's the official reason.


As yes, the Phoenix Coyotes Defense.
 
2013-09-10 12:56:16 PM  

CmndrFish: Moopy Mac: Blatter has been pushing the MLS to change its schedule to work with the FIFA schedule for years.

Then I challenge Blatter to stand outside in nothing but a kit in Chicago for 90 minutes on a cold, cold day in February.

There's a reason that MLS plays in the summer, and it's not even because of the NFL.  It's because North American winters are brutal compared to almost anywhere in Europe except Russia.  If we did a "normal" soccer schedule, we'd probably have to take an almost 3 month break like they do in the motherland.

/yes, yes, they do play the other football in winter.  It's a different game, and snow is kind of a part of the sport's culture, not something that makes it impossible to play like with soccer.


Russia actually plays almost a FIFA schedule now, except with a 3 month winter break, which is kind of weird. But yes, Russian League play stars in July and ends in May, compared to the Premier League going August to May.
 
2013-09-10 01:14:25 PM  
I love how they act like the executive council suggesting moving to winter is in doubt. They ALL took money from Qatar and have a vested interest in making sure that they stay happy. If they were thoughtful about the whole process they would never have voted for them in the first place.

Also, how farking hard is it for Qatar to build indoor stadiums?
 
2013-09-10 01:34:33 PM  
There's two ridiculous points to this entire proposal.

The first, obviously, being that the World Cup has been held in the summer since its inception in 1930.  The World Cup has always been bigger than any single nation.  The only thing that has ever stopped the World Cup, was World War II.

Secondly, Qatar is NOT a worthy participant.  I cannot think of a single world cup, with an automatic bid to the hosting nation, that is as bad as Qatar.  A strong argument can be made that both the USA in 94 and South Africa in 2010 were the weakest host nations in history, and both surprised people with their play.  There's simply no way Qatar, ranked 111th in the world, will do anything except lose every game by a wide margin.  Their participation would be a joke, period.

The execs at FIFA got what they wanted, a huge bribe from Qatari billionaires.  They'll all be retired or dead by 2022, and won't give two shiats about the debacle that will transpire should the tournament not be moved to the United States, who rightfully should have won the bid.
 
2013-09-10 01:48:35 PM  
HideAndGoFarkYourself:
The execs at FIFA got what they wanted, a huge bribe from Qatari billionaires.  They'll all be retired or dead by 2022, and won't give two shiats about the debacle that will transpire should the tournament not be moved to the United States, who rightfully should have won the bid.

The US wasn't even the sole #2 in voting until the final round, behind Japan and South Korea, both of whom had already hosted it more recently then the US.

I mean, not to say that I saw the bids so I know the US clearly had the best package, but the voting record makes it look like the US was never even considered a preffereable or even viable option.
 
2013-09-10 02:05:29 PM  
Also, who gives the World Cup to a country that forbids titties and beer?
 
2013-09-10 02:08:34 PM  

dallylamma: Also, who gives the World Cup to a country that forbids titties and beer?


Can't wait to see what happens if Israel qualifies.
 
2013-09-10 02:09:49 PM  

CmndrFish: Moopy Mac: Blatter has been pushing the MLS to change its schedule to work with the FIFA schedule for years.

Then I challenge Blatter to stand outside in nothing but a kit in Chicago for 90 minutes on a cold, cold day in February.

There's a reason that MLS plays in the summer, and it's not even because of the NFL.  It's because North American winters are brutal compared to almost anywhere in Europe except Russia.  If we did a "normal" soccer schedule, we'd probably have to take an almost 3 month break like they do in the motherland.

/yes, yes, they do play the other football in winter.  It's a different game, and snow is kind of a part of the sport's culture, not something that makes it impossible to play like with soccer.


The coldest I ever played soccer in was probably around freezing, a few degrees on either side, sometime in November or March. I can't imagine playing soccer in the NE or the Midwest would be very much fun in January or February when the wind chill is in the negatives.
 
2013-09-10 02:45:00 PM  

dallylamma: Also, who gives the World Cup to a country that forbids titties and beer?


Showing their strong moral backbone, the Qataris will allow the sale of beer during the tournament (thought they are now trying to push back on that). Coincidentally FIFA has entered into lucrative beer sponsorships for each WC.
 
2013-09-10 03:01:40 PM  

Moopy Mac: dallylamma: Also, who gives the World Cup to a country that forbids titties and beer?

Showing their strong moral backbone, the Qataris will allow the sale of beer during the tournament (thought they are now trying to push back on that). Coincidentally FIFA has entered into lucrative beer sponsorships for each WC.


What's a World Cup without beer and hot Brazilian girls in skin-tight outfits?

Please, won't someone think of the boobies?
 
2013-09-10 03:14:36 PM  

FrancoFile: Moopy Mac: dallylamma: Also, who gives the World Cup to a country that forbids titties and beer?

Showing their strong moral backbone, the Qataris will allow the sale of beer during the tournament (thought they are now trying to push back on that). Coincidentally FIFA has entered into lucrative beer sponsorships for each WC.

What's a World Cup without beer and hot Brazilian girls in skin-tight outfits?

Please, won't someone think of the boobies?


It could be a WC with liquor and Brazilian girls in body paint

/if only
 
2013-09-10 03:45:16 PM  
The Qataris' largest stadium is smaller than half of the stadiums in the US bid. Their second largest is smaller than all of the American stadiums. Plus people would actually be willing to visit the US. Who the hell wants to go to Qatar?
 
2013-09-10 04:22:01 PM  

Foxxinnia: The Qataris' largest stadium is smaller than half of the stadiums in the US bid. Their second largest is smaller than all of the American stadiums. Plus people would actually be willing to visit the US. Who the hell wants to go to Qatar?


European women who want to be jailed for having unlawful extramarital intercourse after being raped?
 
2013-09-10 04:24:51 PM  

Foxxinnia: The Qataris' largest stadium is smaller than half of the stadiums in the US bid. Their second largest is smaller than all of the American stadiums. Plus people would actually be willing to visit the US. Who the hell wants to go to Qatar?


Just playing devil's advocate but Qatar is actually really easy to get to for Europeans, Asians, Australians, and Africa, there will be a flights from most major capitols to Doha and realistically won't take more than one connection to get there from any city on Earth. The US on the other hand will require a bunch of short hops and connections at our lovely hub airports. To say nothing of our stupid visa system that everyone outside of Europe has to put up with.

I won't argue that the desire to visit Qatar is more, but it's certainly easier.
 
2013-09-10 06:42:00 PM  
So the air conditioned outdoor stadiums + magic cloud seeding technology is off the table?
 
2013-09-10 07:59:39 PM  
So will this double as the US v Mexico thread?
 
2013-09-10 08:01:23 PM  

Mr_H: So will this double as the US v Mexico thread?


I came in here to ask this. I don't see one in the queue.
 
2013-09-10 08:05:39 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr_H: So will this double as the US v Mexico thread?

I came in here to ask this. I don't see one in the queue.


I sure hope there's one because I just discovered that downgrading my cable package made me lose access to Watch ESPN and I'm stuck at work until 8:15
 
2013-09-10 08:06:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr_H: So will this double as the US v Mexico thread?

I came in here to ask this. I don't see one in the queue.


Thread hijack!

/considered going to this game
//mexican fans made me decide against it
 
2013-09-10 08:07:20 PM  

rugman11: cameroncrazy1984: Mr_H: So will this double as the US v Mexico thread?

I came in here to ask this. I don't see one in the queue.

I sure hope there's one because I just discovered that downgrading my cable package made me lose access to Watch ESPN and I'm stuck at work until 8:15


Vipbox, firstrow.....
 
2013-09-11 12:22:01 AM  

error 303: HideAndGoFarkYourself:
The execs at FIFA got what they wanted, a huge bribe from Qatari billionaires.  They'll all be retired or dead by 2022, and won't give two shiats about the debacle that will transpire should the tournament not be moved to the United States, who rightfully should have won the bid.

The US wasn't even the sole #2 in voting until the final round, behind Japan and South Korea, both of whom had already hosted it more recently then the US.

I mean, not to say that I saw the bids so I know the US clearly had the best package, but the voting record makes it look like the US was never even considered a preffereable or even viable option.


At the end of the process, the USA was #2, that's all that matters.
 
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