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(Examiner)   George Zimmerman's wife Shellie's 911 call to Lake Mary, Florida police. After saying he threatened him with a gun, she admits she never saw a gun   (examiner.com) divider line 474
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2013-09-10 02:32:25 PM

whatsupchuck: redmid17: whatsupchuck: steamingpile: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman - gun-incident-florida-trayvon-martin/2788443/

"Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun..."

This is not evidence of a search.  You have asserted that they searched Zimmerman, his car and his bodyguard, facts not in evidence and not in any news article I've read.  I would be happy to believe it if somebody, anybody could provide a reliable source for this information.  Until then I will stand by my original comment and suffer through everyone else attempting to retry the Travon Martin case and/or biatching about their horrible ex.

So you maintain that police responding to a domestic violence situation, where gun violence was reported and alleged to have been committed by someone who just got through with a murder trial, would not search for a gun?

Funny, I've been on this planet long enough to realize that there is often a difference between a) what I imagine should have happened in a given situation and b) what actually happened.  This is why people like police, and scientists, and newspaper reporters go to so much trouble to dig up these things called "facts" which more objectively describe actual events then the imaginings in your head.

Good lord...


Jesus dude. If you're going to be hitting the bong this early, just let the rest of us know.
 
2013-09-10 02:41:35 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why is Zimmerman even in FL still? He should be in Montana or some shiat


There are times I wonder about that myself, but moving takes time and money. So does purchasing an entirely new wardrobe, which you pretty much have to do if you're moving between those two states of all places. Perhaps he just hasn't gotten around to that yet.
 
2013-09-10 02:44:38 PM

redmid17: Jesus dude. If you're going to be hitting the bong this early, just let the rest of us know.


Is that what you're imagining again?  Well, bless your heart...
 
2013-09-10 02:50:43 PM

LasersHurt: frepnog: But you and a select group don' t care about the facts.

The irony here is delicious. You've been caught unable to defend your assertions, but WE'RE the ones who don't care about facts.


You're not getting that you're comparing apples and oranges.  The reports are not counting the same types of activities.

I explained that, you ignored it.
 
2013-09-10 02:51:44 PM

neomunk: LasersHurt: frepnog: But you and a select group don' t care about the facts.

The irony here is delicious. You've been caught unable to defend your assertions, but WE'RE the ones who don't care about facts.

You're not getting that you're comparing apples and oranges.  The reports are not counting the same types of activities.

I explained that, you ignored it.


Sorry, I responded to the wrong post, but to the right poster.  Pretend I clicked on your response to me like I meant to.
 
2013-09-10 02:54:26 PM
I can see how all this is going to end. The estranged wife will get a restraining order against Zimmerman. He will ignore it and stalk her anyway. She will stand her ground and shoot him. Zimmerman's fanbois will be forced to remove their lips from his cock, and the rest of us will finally have some peace.
 
2013-09-10 02:57:20 PM

whatsupchuck: redmid17: Jesus dude. If you're going to be hitting the bong this early, just let the rest of us know.

Is that what you're imagining again?  Well, bless your heart...


Let's get this straight, no search at all during a domestic violence call featuring an armed, angry person who was on trial for murder less than two months ago?

According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard.  They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police- ar e-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made- to-911

I don't have to imagine anything. I can read and understand why police might take the time to look for potential evidence in a crime involving someone of his public image.

To put this less elegantly, I'm pretty sure you're a moron or a troll, though it's not out of the question to replace the or with an and.
 
2013-09-10 02:59:49 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I believe that many of you have taken that position because you are racists.


Why does this not surprise me at all?

/From reading your posts, it would seem that  everyone is a racist (or at least a closet racist) in your eyes, Dro.
 
Bf+
2013-09-10 03:00:32 PM
 
2013-09-10 03:11:03 PM

neomunk: LasersHurt: frepnog: But you and a select group don' t care about the facts.

The irony here is delicious. You've been caught unable to defend your assertions, but WE'RE the ones who don't care about facts.

You're not getting that you're comparing apples and oranges.  The reports are not counting the same types of activities.

I explained that, you ignored it.


You explained nothing of the sort, not to me. All you said is that his claims were fine. And they were not. The CDC, who he kept referring to for support, disagrees with him.
 
2013-09-10 03:12:20 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Why can't allegedly intelligent people ever make a comment about their position without a bunch of name calling and idiocy?


Why indeed.
 
2013-09-10 03:19:51 PM

redmid17: Let's get this straight, no search at all during a domestic violence call featuring an armed, angry person who was on trial for murder less than two months ago?

According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard.  They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police- ar e-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made- to-911

I don't have to imagine anything. I can read and understand why police might take the time to look for potential evidence in a crime involving someone of his public image.


If they were actually searching for evidence of a gun, they would have looked in his car where, according to his lawyer, they might have found one.  They searched his person the way they always do when a gun is reported during a service call because police don't like suspects wandering around holding guns.  At least, that's what I imagine.

Thank you and congratulations for posting the first evidence in this thread that there was any search done whatsoever.  Still waiting to hear about the more thorough search of his car and bodyguard mentioned by another farker.
 
Bf+
2013-09-10 03:22:24 PM

Millennium: allegedly

 
2013-09-10 03:30:44 PM

whatsupchuck: redmid17: Let's get this straight, no search at all during a domestic violence call featuring an armed, angry person who was on trial for murder less than two months ago?

According to police, George was not in his car when they arrived but was standing in the yard.  They say he was also very cooperative and allowed police to search his person.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police- ar e-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made- to-911

I don't have to imagine anything. I can read and understand why police might take the time to look for potential evidence in a crime involving someone of his public image.

If they were actually searching for evidence of a gun, they would have looked in his car where, according to his lawyer, they might have found one.  They searched his person the way they always do when a gun is reported during a service call because police don't like suspects wandering around holding guns.  At least, that's what I imagine.

Thank you and congratulations for posting the first evidence in this thread that there was any search done whatsoever.  Still waiting to hear about the more thorough search of his car and bodyguard mentioned by another farker.


They didn't search the car per the police chief. They did a thorough enough search, though, to enable EMTs to come on scene and ensure that the scene was secure. I doubt they are going to let his bodyguard walk around with a gun either. Per this picture in the Orlando Sentinel, it looks like he was searched:

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-z im merman-domestic-violence-pictures,0,6691722.photogallery
 
2013-09-10 03:33:10 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why is Zimmerman even in FL still? He should be in Montana or some shiat


Exactly what I said, I would be out of the damn country where nobody knows who the fark zimmerman is or what it means.

whatsupchuck: Funny, I've been on this planet long enough to realize that there is often a difference between a) what I imagine should have happened in a given situation and b) what actually happened. This is why people like police, and scientists, and newspaper reporters go to so much trouble to dig up these things called "facts" which more objectively describe actual events then the imaginings in your head.


Fact: She reported domestic violence with a physical altercation along with brandishing a gun by showing it to her and telling her to come closer.

Those are facts, there is no disputing that since it is on the 911 call.

Now, even farking barney fife would do three things when arriving onsite, 1) separate the two people to get their stories, 2) pat down the one who is being reported as armed and brandishing a gun, 3) search the car once hes been detained.

If you know any law enforcement at all then the first thing they do is search for their safety to make sure nothing is hidden to hurt themselves, too many cops have been killed or hurt by not following protocol.
 
2013-09-10 03:37:32 PM

whatsupchuck: Thank you and congratulations for posting the first evidence in this thread that there was any search done whatsoever. Still waiting to hear about the more thorough search of his car and bodyguard mentioned by another farker.


You dont understand that the chief saying no gun was found means they searched him, in any article it states he was searched when cops arrived on scene, you can hear her mention it in the 911 call that his hands are up while they are patting him down. It was a farking argument blown out of proportion by her shiatty acting.
 
2013-09-10 03:45:47 PM

GanjSmokr: DROxINxTHExWIND: I believe that many of you have taken that position because you are racists.

Why does this not surprise me at all?

/From reading your posts, it would seem that  everyone is a racist (or at least a closet racist) in your eyes, Dro.


Drox is an African American gentleman that defends Trayvon simply because he was also an African American despite all evidence showing that Trayvon was responsible for his own death by attacking Zimmerman and continuing that attack as his victim cried out for help from the ground.

Defending someone vehemently of your own race based on nothing but race is INCREDIBLY racist.

To Drox, this means that everyone ELSE is actually the racist.

/experienced that myself with people I know that I never suspected of being racist.
 
2013-09-10 03:52:32 PM

frepnog: Defending someone vehemently of your own race based on nothing but race is INCREDIBLY racist.


What about dismissing someone's entire argument on the basis that he is black, so therefore he's obviously just defending another black guy?

Is THAT incredibly racist?

/yes it is, other Barry, yes it is
 
2013-09-10 03:58:46 PM

steamingpile: whatsupchuck: Thank you and congratulations for posting the first evidence in this thread that there was any search done whatsoever. Still waiting to hear about the more thorough search of his car and bodyguard mentioned by another farker.

You dont understand that the chief saying no gun was found means they searched him, in any article it states he was searched when cops arrived on scene, you can hear her mention it in the 911 call that his hands are up while they are patting him down. It was a farking argument blown out of proportion by her shiatty acting.


You just moved the goalposts over two consecutive posts, didn't you?  Even by Fark standards that's mighty impressive!

At this point I'd bet a paycheck that he had gun in the glovebox of his car.  I couldn't swear to it, though.  BTW, my opinion of her isn't any higher than my opinion of him, and I'd go so far as to say they probably deserve each other.
 
2013-09-10 04:01:15 PM

LasersHurt: frepnog: Defending someone vehemently of your own race based on nothing but race is INCREDIBLY racist.

What about dismissing someone's entire argument on the basis that he is black, so therefore he's obviously just defending another black guy?

Is THAT incredibly racist?

/yes it is, other Barry, yes it is


that is not what I have done, and if you paid any attention at all you would know that.  If Drox had a leg to stand on it would be worth discussing but he ignores evidence and fact based on the color of Trayvon's skin.
 
2013-09-10 04:04:14 PM

frepnog: LasersHurt: frepnog: Defending someone vehemently of your own race based on nothing but race is INCREDIBLY racist.

What about dismissing someone's entire argument on the basis that he is black, so therefore he's obviously just defending another black guy?

Is THAT incredibly racist?

/yes it is, other Barry, yes it is

that is not what I have done, and if you paid any attention at all you would know that.  If Drox had a leg to stand on it would be worth discussing but he ignores evidence and fact based on the color of Trayvon's skin.


And if YOU had a leg to stand on, you would have been able to back up the comments you made about Trayvon Martin's thefts, his liver, or his casing houses. But you can't - you have no evidence to support them, yet you assume them to be absolutely true. I wonder why you accept the negative things you heard about him without question while calling him a "thug." Hmmm.
 
2013-09-10 04:06:30 PM

LasersHurt: frepnog: Defending someone vehemently of your own race based on nothing but race is INCREDIBLY racist.

What about dismissing someone's entire argument on the basis that he is black, so therefore he's obviously just defending another black guy?

Is THAT incredibly racist?

/yes it is, other Barry, yes it is


No, it isnt incredibly racist, simply because you conveniently ignored the 'despite all evidence' part of the post.

But keep on keeping on.  Disagree with Obama?  Racist.!
 
2013-09-10 04:10:29 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Disagree with Obama?  Racist.!


Are you having some kind of persecution-seizure?
 
2013-09-10 04:11:08 PM

King Something: unlikely: "threatened with a gun" is not the same as "saw a gun"

"I might have to just TRAYVON your ass" is threatening with a gun. Coming from him, it'd be doubly so, and doubly menacing.

Thing is, though, threatening with a gun (like by saying "I might have to just TRAYVON your ass," for instance) is a felony under Florida law. It's called Aggravated Assault and carries a maximum 5-year prison sentence (as opposed to Simple Assault, which is when you threaten someone but don't threaten to use deadly force, such as by saying something like "I'mma slap you upside the head with a giant purple dildo")

I have to double-check the details on the law (and am currently too lazy to do it right this decade), but I'm fairly certain that the victim has to reasonably believe that the threat is in earnest and that the aggressor is willing and able to carry out the threat -- if someone tells you they're gonna slap you upside the head with a giant purple dildo, it doesn't count as assault if the verbal exchange is over PSN while playing Grand Theft Auto online but does count as assault if the conversation is face-to-face and that person is carrying (or could reasonably be believed to be carrying) a giant purple dildo twice the size of a hoagie. Likewise, if someone tells you "I might have to just TRAYVON your ass," it's not aggravated assault if it's via the headset while playing GTA but is if the conversation is in person -- and, as you sad, doubly so if the person threatening you is George Zimmerman.

Of course, there's no way he'd be convicted in criminal court on just hearsay. She would have had to have recorded him actually saying those words (or words to that effect) in order to meet the "reasonable doubt" standard, otherwise it's just he-said-she-said in a divorce trial.


NPR reporting that there is a video of this altercation on Shellie's Ipad but someone smashed the Ipad so it is going to take awhile to recover the video.
 
2013-09-10 04:12:11 PM

spongeboob: NPR reporting that there is a video of this altercation on Shellie's Ipad but someone smashed the Ipad so it is going to take awhile to recover the video.


What, they don't know who tried to destroy evidence?
 
2013-09-10 04:14:08 PM
Why does one need to back up "casing houses"   It was on the police call.   Are we to assume he was playing hopscotch?   It is just as valid as any other witness testimony to the cops.   Why not assert that Martin was actually on the ground and the rest is just racist lies?
 
2013-09-10 04:15:07 PM
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman's wife is asking that he pay for a permanent life insurance policy
with her named as the beneficiary,according to a divorce petition made public Friday.Shellie Zimmerman said
in the petition that her husband should pay the premiums on the policy since he"has the financial ability to
obtain such life insurance at reasonable rates."
 
2013-09-10 04:22:17 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Why does one need to back up "casing houses"   It was on the police call.   Are we to assume he was playing hopscotch?   It is just as valid as any other witness testimony to the cops.   Why not assert that Martin was actually on the ground and the rest is just racist lies?


Because that which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. If you cannot prove he was "casing houses," he wasn't. Much how George did not commit murder, because it was not proven, right?
 
2013-09-10 04:23:33 PM

LasersHurt: spongeboob: NPR reporting that there is a video of this altercation on Shellie's Ipad but someone smashed the Ipad so it is going to take awhile to recover the video.

What, they don't know who tried to destroy evidence?


They are hoping to find that out when they examine the Ipad again per the NPR report.
 
2013-09-10 04:29:02 PM
 
2013-09-10 04:40:20 PM

spongeboob: Either the Lake Mary police are very bad cops or O'Mara is a  very bad lawyer and liar

George Zimmerman's attorney, former Local 6 legal analyst Mark O'Mara, also said George Zimmerman had a gun holstered to his body.

Police later said they did not find a gun on Zimmerman's person.


Ummm... I officially retract my wager that he had it in his glovebox.
 
2013-09-10 04:43:30 PM
I'm so glad that emotional assholes like Magorn and MFAWG have zero sway in our justice system.

"WELL ACCORDING TO MY FEELINGS HE IS GUILTY THEREFORE HE IS GUILTY"

So stupid.
 
2013-09-10 04:43:41 PM
Best thing about the whole Zimmerman thing is how incredibly stupid it made Obama look. Guy is a racist pig, can't believe all you stupid white people fell for his crap. "If I had a son...." He is such a loser!!! What kind of President makes a statement like that about a minor criminal case?? A dumb loser who is now getting his ass handed to him by Putin, that's who.
 
2013-09-10 04:47:16 PM
Phinn: "That's the famous Progressive sense of rationality and open-mindedness on display."

Oh.

You're one of THOSE.

Show us on the doll where Woodrow Wilson touched you :)
 
2013-09-10 04:49:37 PM
Phinn: "The image of the cops knocking on the door, and the wife-beater sending them away so he can resume his belt-strap lecture, is fantasy.  It's imaginary.  Of course I'm sure it has happened, somewhere, but women also really do attack men with weapons, often improvised"

Oh, goody, another one on the "men beat women just as much" bandwagon.

CITATION NEEDED, numbnuts.
 
2013-09-10 04:52:12 PM

spiderpaz: PunGent: The more you eat the more you fart: doglover: The fairer sex, as in there's always a fair chance they're lying.

More than 70% of domestic violence situations are initiated by the woman.

Citation needed.

There's a reason we don't need as many battered men's shelters:  basic biology.

That's pretty sketchy logic.  Maybe we don't need as many battered men's shelter because, although women initiate domestic violence more often, men (being biologically the bigger/stronger gender), are not as likely to sustain serious injuries because they are generally more capable of defending themselves.


No, they don't.  Look at something besides the study that moron posted.  Anything.  Seriously.  Prisons have always had more men in them than women, and that statistic WAY predates any modern "PC bullshiat" the misogynists here would have you blame.
 
2013-09-10 04:53:18 PM

Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."


As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".
 
2013-09-10 05:01:11 PM

Magorn: PunGent: Magorn: frepnog: MFAWG: frepnog: lordjupiter: Yeah no reason to believe the poster boy for shooting people and getting away with it would have a gun somewhere.

he didn't get away with anything.  he was acquitted of a baseless charge for which there was no evidence.

Well, other than the gun and dead kid. But other than that...

and the ample evidence of self-defense.  a dead body does not equal a crime.  trayvon attacked him, it was clear at the scene, and it was why he was acquitted.  shame that trayvon can not in good conscious be used as a martyr, but facts are funny that way.

Assume trayvon survived the incident.  Explain to me what evidence could have been used to convict him of attacking George Zimmerman, or initiating the altercation.  I mena clearly he deserves the same benefit of the doubt Zimmerman does,  in reaching that conclusion right?  Go on I'll wait-any evidence at all...

Seriously?  Physical injuries on Zimmerman.  Front and back of head.  End of story.

Magorn, I respect your opinions as a rule, but you're really walking way out on thin ice on this one.

Nope. Go with me a minute.  The Injuries show that an altercation took place, just as Martin's dead body did,  but, suppose Zimmerman had died fnot Martin, could you have convicted Martin?  You are Martin's defense lawyer, and you have a tap of this guy calling 911, ignoring police requests that he stay in the car, saying "he's not gonna get away this time" AND he's armed with a gun.   Could you, as a hypthetical juror at Martin's trial conclude that the evidence proved HE initiated the encounter and was not acting in self-defense?  The same standards of reasonable doubt that rightly have Zimmerman walking around as a free man today have to apply to those who accept the counter-narraive that somehow Taryvon started the fight that ended Zimmerman;s life.


I was thinking some more about your hypothetical.   Seems to me the "problem" is that the presumption of innocence almost always attaches to whoever survived the fight...we don't waste a lot of time charging dead people with crimes, after all.  So there's going to be an inherent bias toward the survivor, since he can shape the narrative after the fact.

So, without outside testimony, it's going to come down to physical evidence.   If Z DIDN'T have injuries (however minor) on his face and the back of his head, he'd have a FAR weaker case, and would've been much more likely to get convicted on at least negligent homicide, or the like.
 
2013-09-10 05:02:08 PM
Evidently police are saying Zimmerman may still be charged with battery once they go through the statements.
They are also going to put together the iPad she was using to record the incident that George grabbed from her and smashed.
So do go on.....
 
2013-09-10 05:41:29 PM

Phinn: The image of the cops knocking on the door, and the wife-beater sending them away so he can resume his belt-strap lecture, is fantasy.  It's imaginary.  Of course I'm sure it has happened, somewhere


A study published in 1976 by the Police Foundation found that the police had intervened at least once in the previous two years in 85% of spouse homicides.
 
2013-09-10 06:07:29 PM

PunGent: spiderpaz: PunGent: The more you eat the more you fart: doglover: The fairer sex, as in there's always a fair chance they're lying.

More than 70% of domestic violence situations are initiated by the woman.

Citation needed.

There's a reason we don't need as many battered men's shelters:  basic biology.

That's pretty sketchy logic.  Maybe we don't need as many battered men's shelter because, although women initiate domestic violence more often, men (being biologically the bigger/stronger gender), are not as likely to sustain serious injuries because they are generally more capable of defending themselves.

No, they don't.  Look at something besides the study that moron posted.  Anything.  Seriously.  Prisons have always had more men in them than women, and that statistic WAY predates any modern "PC bullshiat" the misogynists here would have you blame.


Oh my God you're right ... there would have to be like - a double standard or something when it came to charging women and men with domestic violence for both things to be true.
 
2013-09-10 06:46:23 PM
OMG.  Just saw the damage Zimmerman did to the father-in-law's nose.  It reminded me of Zimmerman's Trayvon wounds...like he just went ten rounds with a mountain lion.

That surveillance tape of Zimmerman breaking the iPad is suspicious, too.  Why can't the criminal justice stop this guy from involving himself in dangerous situations.

Thug.
 
2013-09-10 07:07:56 PM

whatsupchuck: steamingpile: whatsupchuck: Thank you and congratulations for posting the first evidence in this thread that there was any search done whatsoever. Still waiting to hear about the more thorough search of his car and bodyguard mentioned by another farker.

You dont understand that the chief saying no gun was found means they searched him, in any article it states he was searched when cops arrived on scene, you can hear her mention it in the 911 call that his hands are up while they are patting him down. It was a farking argument blown out of proportion by her shiatty acting.

You just moved the goalposts over two consecutive posts, didn't you?  Even by Fark standards that's mighty impressive!

At this point I'd bet a paycheck that he had gun in the glovebox of his car.  I couldn't swear to it, though.  BTW, my opinion of her isn't any higher than my opinion of him, and I'd go so far as to say they probably deserve each other.


Nope goalposts same place, if you think a cop will respond to a call about a person brandishing a firearm and not search him or his car then you are just ignorant of law enforcement.

I do agree they are both scumbags and she's trying to get all the notoriety she can to play the abused woman on Oprah.
 
2013-09-10 07:10:32 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: Better question: why isnt she in jail for that shiat?


Because the only time the cops ever charge someone for filing a false police report is if the news media is watching. I've learned that I have to record every interaction with her for my own protection and to always have a witness.

This text is now purple: Are slander laws no longer a thing?


Actually they are, and taking her to court for slander and the considerable amount of money she has cost me is something that I've got to seriously consider. This isn't someone saying they don't like me, this is someone trying to get me arrested, take away my kid and have me thrown in prison. She has cost me untold thousands from her slander of myself.

Millennium: They're a thing, but slander is a tort, not a crime. I believe that what onyxruby is suggesting is to make it an actual crime.


I have no idea if it is a crime where I live or not, I think the cops around here look at it as a civil matter. At this point I am looking at suing with a jury trial so that I can show the next legal person the decree showing her history and recoup damages.

This text is now purple: Defamation per se is a crime in something like 17 states, but even a civil suit might slow her down.


That's what I need to do, she refuses to stop and even though nobody believes her it's still a lot of stress and money to routinely deal with. That and I don't like having to record every interaction with her for my own protection.
 
2013-09-10 07:22:56 PM

dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".


I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.
 
2013-09-10 07:25:07 PM

steamingpile: dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".

I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.


The whole altercation could have been avoided if he had just gone home.  Instead, he had to act all tough and circle back.  He was just defending himself against her aggressive attack.
 
2013-09-10 07:37:57 PM

gimmegimme: steamingpile: dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".

I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.

The whole altercation could have been avoided if he had just gone home.  Instead, he had to act all tough and circle back.  He was just defending himself against her aggressive attack.


Ahhh I get it trolling, problem was this was his home
 
2013-09-10 07:42:40 PM

steamingpile: gimmegimme: steamingpile: dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".

I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.

The whole altercation could have been avoided if he had just gone home.  Instead, he had to act all tough and circle back.  He was just defending himself against her aggressive attack.

Ahhh I get it trolling, problem was this was his home


Look, even if it's his place of residence, he doesn't necessarily belong there.  Would all of his neighbors know he's in the neighborhood?  Suburbs can be a dangerous place; you don't want strangers walking around.
 
2013-09-10 08:00:15 PM

gimmegimme: steamingpile: gimmegimme: steamingpile: dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".

I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.

The whole altercation could have been avoided if he had just gone home.  Instead, he had to act all tough and circle back.  He was just defending himself against her aggressive attack.

Ahhh I get it trolling, problem was this was his home

Look, even if it's his place of residence, he doesn't necessarily belong there.  Would all of his neighbors know he's in the neighborhood?  Suburbs can be a dangerous place; you don't want strangers walking around.


Try harder, you can get serious responses with a little effort.
 
2013-09-10 08:09:19 PM

steamingpile: gimmegimme: steamingpile: gimmegimme: steamingpile: dbrunker: Bf+: "Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said Tuesday that the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was in pieces and needed to be examined in a lab."

As I said, "It's easy for us to jump to conclusions before we have all the facts...".

I can tell you whats on the video, she's starts taping him on the property because she's trying to provoke him into a reaction and it works since he slaps it out of her hands saying get that shiat out of my face. She's vindictive and sounds pissy after she discovers his new GF in the truck at the end of her phone call. I would bet she's known about her for a while and is trying to get him to fark himself over, he needs someone to just tell him to stay the fark away from her.

The whole altercation could have been avoided if he had just gone home.  Instead, he had to act all tough and circle back.  He was just defending himself against her aggressive attack.

Ahhh I get it trolling, problem was this was his home

Look, even if it's his place of residence, he doesn't necessarily belong there.  Would all of his neighbors know he's in the neighborhood?  Suburbs can be a dangerous place; you don't want strangers walking around.

Try harder, you can get serious responses with a little effort.


I don't get it...these arguments were hailed as a justification for shooting an unarmed kid only a few months ago.  What changed?
 
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