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2013-09-10 07:10:18 AM
Ha! Surpr*BLAM*
 
2013-09-10 07:10:48 AM
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"This is gonna be so good!"
 
2013-09-10 07:11:20 AM
Submitted this last week.  Kinda curious to what the **** happened.   I mean, what was this guy doing, patrolling the house with a gun out and no safety on?

Otherwise, did she jump out, go "boo," he screamed like a little girl, he walked over to get his gun out of a bed stand, and THEN shot her?
 
2013-09-10 07:11:23 AM
Yeah, drawing and firing upon someone jumping out and yelling BOO! is totally legit.

Jeeze... this is the sort of crap gun grabbers live for.
 
2013-09-10 07:12:16 AM
Was she wearing a hoodie?
 
2013-09-10 07:13:49 AM

wildcardjack: Yeah, drawing and firing upon someone jumping out and yelling BOO! is totally legit.

Jeeze... this is the sort of crap gun grabbers live for.


Ever wonder that maybe the "gun grabbers" might have a point?  That maybe there's a high number of gone owners who can't handle the responsibility and that maybe we need to make it a little tougher to get a gun?

Note:  own eight guns, several of which are loaded right now.
 
2013-09-10 07:14:10 AM
damn... and i WAS going to say "in before the derp"... oh well.
 
2013-09-10 07:19:22 AM
Pity, she was a cutie, too.
 
2013-09-10 07:20:02 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to what the **** happened. I mean, what was this guy doing, patrolling the house with a gun out and no safety on?

Otherwise, did she jump out, go "boo," he screamed like a little girl, he walked over to get his gun out of a bed stand, and THEN shot her?


Yeah seems odd. Should only take him a few seconds to realize who it is. Unless it was dark.
 
2013-09-10 07:24:27 AM

cyberlogicx: I own 37 guns. 16 of them I built myself. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?


Oh bless your precious heart.
 
2013-09-10 07:24:33 AM

wildcardjack: Yeah, drawing and firing upon someone jumping out and yelling BOO! is totally legit.

Jeeze... this is the sort of crap gun grabbers live for.


Maybe it's because I'm undercaffeinated, but I first read "gun grabbers" as "nervous people who grab loaded guns when startled." Seriously, people with trigger fingers as itchy as that outside of a war zone probably shouldn't have guns. (And frankly I'd expect more of a soldier, too, but it would also be easier to understand closet paranoia.)

Honestly, though, how much irrational fear do the real gun rights fanatics live with...?
 
2013-09-10 07:24:44 AM
cyberlogicx:

I own 37 guns. 16 of them I built myself. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

why don't you just wear a sign saying psychopath? it would save so much time
 
2013-09-10 07:26:17 AM

Wendy's Chili: Was she wearing a hoodie?


Maybe she surprised him with iced tea and skittles?
 
2013-09-10 07:30:20 AM
How did the 15 year old have access to the gun? Because he was in the house?

So if kid comes to visit me, and I have a shotgun hidden on the top shelf of my closet, and despite the kid not knowing it is there, or me watching him to make sure he doesn't go upstairs, have I 'provided him with a gun"?
 
2013-09-10 07:33:42 AM
I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...
 
2013-09-10 07:34:13 AM
LOL GUNS
 
2013-09-10 07:35:53 AM

Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...


Care to share?
 
2013-09-10 07:36:40 AM

Canton: Maybe it's because I'm undercaffeinated, but I first read "gun grabbers" as "nervous people who grab loaded guns when startled." Seriously, people with trigger fingers as itchy as that outside of a war zone probably shouldn't have guns. (And frankly I'd expect more of a soldier, too, but it would also be easier to understand closet paranoia.)

Honestly, though, how much irrational fear do the real gun rights fanatics live with...?


You're talking to a person who thinks all gun laws are illegal and that if he doesn't have a gun at him at all times minority urban youths will sense he's unarmed and murder him.

MythDragon: How did the 15 year old have access to the gun? Because he was in the house?

So if kid comes to visit me, and I have a shotgun hidden on the top shelf of my closet, and despite the kid not knowing it is there, or me watching him to make sure he doesn't go upstairs, have I 'provided him with a gun"?


Pretty much.  I'm more thinking that they're just charging him with anything they can now and then will sort it out later.  Despite the police's statement, the situation seems a bit suspicious.
 
2013-09-10 07:38:32 AM

ilikeracecars: Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...

Care to share?


No no, just take his word for it.  His headline was AWESOME.

I submitted this last week, but I'll be honest, it was similar this this in terms of wording and funniness.  Had WAY better ones rejected.

:0
 
2013-09-10 07:39:02 AM

ilikeracecars: Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...

Care to share?


Surprise! BANG, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
 
2013-09-10 07:39:52 AM

Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...


i once got a 24 hr 'time out' from fark for 'berating a moderator'. you've just been ruder than I was so you might wanna be careful
 
2013-09-10 07:42:31 AM
That is the CNN article, which is convoluted and lacks details.  Another article I saw yesterday stated that the two guys were home and not aware that the girl was hiding in another room.  She made some sort of noise and the older guy apparently had immediate access to two guns.  He gave one to the 15  year old and then they attempted to "clear" the house with their guns drawn.  She jumped out at them and the older guy shot her.
 
2013-09-10 07:43:35 AM

Maul555: ilikeracecars: Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...

Care to share?

Surprise! BANG, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!


No, the better headline.
 
2013-09-10 07:43:59 AM

Lady J: cyberlogicx:

I own 37 guns. 16 of them I built myself. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

why don't you just wear a sign saying psychopath? it would save so much time


Maybe because owning firearms doesn't make one crazy?
I own 36 (until now I thought I had the most :(  and I don't have any desires to kill anyone. I don't hide in my attic whilst aiming at people with an empty sniper rifle and promising myself "Someday....someday." I just like to collect old/odd/rare firearms.

It's just like watching NASCAR doesn't make you a redneck. Of course lots of rednecks like firearms and lots of psychos like guns, but you shouldn't just make assumptions. Like I could just assume you are a sandy-coonted frigid biatch whose only joy in life is to judge others from atop of her high-horse (which she adopted from a no-kill rescue shelter and not from a horse mill), but I won't do that, since I don't know you well enough.
 
2013-09-10 07:46:29 AM

Maul555: ilikeracecars: Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...

Care to share?

Surprise! BANG, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!


I thought she was a Korean girl, and her name was Bang Ding Ow
 
2013-09-10 07:47:27 AM

cyberlogicx: Satanic_Hamster: wildcardjack: Yeah, drawing and firing upon someone jumping out and yelling BOO! is totally legit.

Jeeze... this is the sort of crap gun grabbers live for.

Ever wonder that maybe the "gun grabbers" might have a point?  That maybe there's a high number of gone owners who can't handle the responsibility and that maybe we need to make it a little tougher to get a gun?

Note:  own eight guns, several of which are loaded right now.


I own 37 guns. 16 of them I built myself. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?


Which part of "well regulated" do you not understand?
 
2013-09-10 07:49:04 AM

Ilmarinen: Maul555: ilikeracecars: Maul555: I submitted this with a better headline 24 hours ago...  Way to stay on top of things mods... doing a great job guys, really...

Care to share?

Surprise! BANG, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

No, the better headline.


lol, oh you.
www.saintsrowmods.com
 
2013-09-10 07:51:22 AM
re·spon·si·ble [ ri spónssəb'l ]answerable to somebody: accountable to somebody for an action or for the successful carrying out of a dutybeing to blame for something: being the cause of something, usually something wrong or disapproved ofimportant: conferring the authority to make decisions independently and requiring conscientiousness and trustworthinessSo what kind of responsible gun owner was this guy? (I have been strongly assured that current laws are more than enough to ensure that there are only responsible gun owners.)
 
2013-09-10 07:54:57 AM
re·spon·si·ble [ ri spónssəb'l ]

1. answerable to somebody: accountable to somebody for an action or for the successful carrying out of a duty

2. being to blame for something: being the cause of something, usually something wrong or disapproved of

3. important: conferring the authority to make decisions independently and requiring conscientiousness and trustworthiness


So what kind of responsible gun owner was this guy? (I have been strongly assured that current laws are more than enough to ensure that there are only responsible gun owners.)/Now with formatting, I think
//I'd chose 2 and hope to see him up on manslaughter just like who ever was "responsible"  for the gun the 3-year-old girl used to "accidentally" shoot herself in Yellowstone yesterday
 
2013-09-10 07:59:07 AM

IamTomJoad: Which part of "well regulated" do you not understand?


In the 1700s, "well regulated" didn't necessarily mean anything more than "in good working order," "calibrated," "effective," or similar.   It is a leap to argue that it primarily meant "government regulations" in today's sense of the phrase.
 
2013-09-10 08:03:44 AM
You gotta agree she succeeded in scaring him.
 
2013-09-10 08:04:01 AM

cyberlogicx: Satanic_Hamster: wildcardjack: Yeah, drawing and firing upon someone jumping out and yelling BOO! is totally legit.

Jeeze... this is the sort of crap gun grabbers live for.

Ever wonder that maybe the "gun grabbers" might have a point?  That maybe there's a high number of gone owners who can't handle the responsibility and that maybe we need to make it a little tougher to get a gun?

Note:  own eight guns, several of which are loaded right now.


I own 37 guns. 16 of them I built myself. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?


Well regulated. The founders lived in a time and period where gun safety and rules of engagement were subjects every adult with any expectation to fire a rifle were drilled and taught from a very young age.

I'm a machinist and gunsmith myself, graduated from Colorado School of Trades, the premier Gunsmithing school in the country. I work as a mold maker at a PIM/MIM shop that specializes in medical and gun parts. I make more guns in a day than you will ever hope to even lay eyes on. Even I'm in support of mandatory training and certification at this point. Perfectly consistent with the environment of the time of the draft of the Bill of Rights. But then again, I actually educate myself on the subject, you might want to as well.
 
2013-09-10 08:05:02 AM
Very American problem, this.
 
2013-09-10 08:07:52 AM
there's something distinctly unnerving about people 'out doing' each other on how many guns they own or see in a day, or whatever

it doesnt make you sound safer, it makes you sound like a farking nutter
 
2013-09-10 08:11:29 AM

DrBrownCow: That is the CNN article, which is convoluted and lacks details.  Another article I saw yesterday stated that the two guys were home and not aware that the girl was hiding in another room.  She made some sort of noise and the older guy apparently had immediate access to two guns.  He gave one to the 15  year old and then they attempted to "clear" the house with their guns drawn.  She jumped out at them and the older guy shot her.


Oh, I hadn't seen that part in any article.

That's just stupid on several levels and explains the charges on providing firearms to a minor.  That sounds like a jackass with gun fantasies; clearing the house, seriously?
 
2013-09-10 08:14:18 AM
Satanic_Hamster:
That's just stupid on several levels and explains the charges on providing firearms to a minor.  That sounds like a jackass with gun fantasies; clearing the house, seriously?

you can imagine it all too well, can't you. proper CSI-ing it round corners
 
2013-09-10 08:15:57 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Submitted this last week.  Kinda curious to what the **** happened.   I mean, what was this guy doing, patrolling the house with a gun out and no safety on?

Otherwise, did she jump out, go "boo," he screamed like a little girl, he walked over to get his gun out of a bed stand, and THEN shot her?


She entered the house while he was not home. Kid came home and heard noises upstairs. She hides in closet to try to scare him. He gets gun. He goes upstairs. He hears noise in closet. He shoots through closed closet door. This kills the girl.
 
2013-09-10 08:18:59 AM

Lady J: there's something distinctly unnerving about people 'out doing' each other on how many guns they own or see in a day, or whatever

it doesnt make you sound safer, it makes you sound like a farking nutter


To be fair, I'm the guy whose proposal is pretty much the strictest form of gun control this country could successfully enforce, and far stricter than ANYTHING proposed by either political party at this time and has the advantage of actually being effective. It's based off of the most successful piece of gun legislation ever enacted in this country, the NFA. Establishing expertise in an area is necessary when suggesting such things. Because as much as I'm going to see flak from the RKBA nuts, I still have to defend the idea against the gun control extremists with ideas that just flat wouldn't work without setting aside a few trillion to enforce. Mine pays for itself and gets illicit guns off the street.

Unfortunately, bringing things like that up are required in order to beat the stupid out of both sides. As much as it turns off the gun control folks, they are far more likely to look at expertise and logic than the RKBA side, which I provide in thoroughly researched detail upon request. Whereas the RKBA side needs a massive e-peen smackdown in order to even consider the proposition that they're wrong, that I provide just on principle. If you want the link to my proposal I'm sure somebody here has it, I've lost it since a HD failure. Basically it's an expansion of the NFA to all semi-autos above plinking calibers.
 
2013-09-10 08:21:56 AM

badhatharry: Satanic_Hamster: Submitted this last week.  Kinda curious to what the **** happened.   I mean, what was this guy doing, patrolling the house with a gun out and no safety on?

Otherwise, did she jump out, go "boo," he screamed like a little girl, he walked over to get his gun out of a bed stand, and THEN shot her?

She entered the house while he was not home. Kid came home and heard noises upstairs. She hides in closet to try to scare him. He gets gun. He goes upstairs. He hears noise in closet. He shoots through closed closet door. This kills the girl.

 static.guim.co.ukThese things happen.
 
2013-09-10 08:26:12 AM
Honor killing disguised as tragic accident.

/tinfoil hat
 
2013-09-10 08:27:53 AM

DrBrownCow: IamTomJoad: Which part of "well regulated" do you not understand?

In the 1700s, "well regulated" didn't necessarily mean anything more than "in good working order," "calibrated," "effective," or similar.   It is a leap to argue that it primarily meant "government regulations" in today's sense of the phrase.


Actually.... (wiki)
In the year prior to the drafting of the Second Amendment, in Federalist No. 29 Alexander Hamilton wrote the following about "organizing", "disciplining", "arming", and "training" of the militia as specified in the enumerated powers:

" This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."

"A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, or even a week, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss.

"If a well regulated militia be the most natural defence of a free country, it ought certainly to be under the regulation and at the disposal of that body which is constituted the guardian of the national security...confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority...(and) reserving to the states...the authority of training the militia".
 
2013-09-10 08:31:31 AM

Surpheon: So what kind of responsible gun owner was this guy? (I have been strongly assured that current laws are more than enough to ensure that there are only responsible gun owners.)/Now with formatting, I think


Im confused... what did he do wrong?

If they called the cops, the cops showed up and she jumped out of the closet at the cops and they shot and killed her, would we be wanting manslaughter charges against the cop?

How about people dont hide in closets and purposely attempt to  scare people.
 
2013-09-10 08:40:07 AM
Track star yes, but unlike Superman she was not faster than...
 
2013-09-10 08:40:13 AM
i think il just be hitting the dusty trail where this thread is concerned
 
2013-09-10 08:40:27 AM

Alonjar: Surpheon: So what kind of responsible gun owner was this guy? (I have been strongly assured that current laws are more than enough to ensure that there are only responsible gun owners.)/Now with formatting, I think

Im confused... what did he do wrong?


Killed an unarmed human.

If they called the cops, the cops showed up and she jumped out of the closet at the cops and they shot and killed her, would we be wanting manslaughter charges against the cop?

The cops would have announced that they are cops and she would have come out of the closet. Instead she heard her friend and he killed her.

How about people dont hide in closets and purposely attempt to  scare people.

Certainly worthy of death.
 
2013-09-10 08:40:54 AM

FnkyTwn: DrBrownCow: IamTomJoad: Which part of "well regulated" do you not understand?

In the 1700s, "well regulated" didn't necessarily mean anything more than "in good working order," "calibrated," "effective," or similar.   It is a leap to argue that it primarily meant "government regulations" in today's sense of the phrase.

Actually.... (wiki)
In the year prior to the drafting of the Second Amendment, in Federalist No. 29 Alexander Hamilton wrote the following about "organizing", "disciplining", "arming", and "training" of the militia as specified in the enumerated powers:

" This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."

"A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, or even a week, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss.

"If a well regulated militia be the most natural defence of a free country, it ought certainly to be under the regulation and at the disposal of that body which is constituted the guardian of the national security...confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the n ...


Ruh roh, using the federalist papers against an RKBA nut, not wise. Will instantly result in a complete and total meltdown. Critical derp imminent. Evacuate. Evacuate. Seek shelter behind the NFA expansion proposal immediately. This is not a drill. Move towards the one eyebrowed man and he will direct you to the fallout shelter.
 
2013-09-10 08:43:03 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Canton: Maybe it's because I'm undercaffeinated, but I first read "gun grabbers" as "nervous people who grab loaded guns when startled." Seriously, people with trigger fingers as itchy as that outside of a war zone probably shouldn't have guns. (And frankly I'd expect more of a soldier, too, but it would also be easier to understand closet paranoia.)

Honestly, though, how much irrational fear do the real gun rights fanatics live with...?

You're talking to a person who thinks all gun laws are illegal and that if he doesn't have a gun at him at all times minority urban youths will sense he's unarmed and murder him.


So... A lot of irrational fear, is what you're saying.

They have therapy for that now. Medication, even.
 
2013-09-10 08:44:57 AM

tetsoushima: "This is gonna be so good!"


Thank you for reminding me of that movie.
 
2013-09-10 08:45:11 AM

Canton: Satanic_Hamster: Canton: Maybe it's because I'm undercaffeinated, but I first read "gun grabbers" as "nervous people who grab loaded guns when startled." Seriously, people with trigger fingers as itchy as that outside of a war zone probably shouldn't have guns. (And frankly I'd expect more of a soldier, too, but it would also be easier to understand closet paranoia.)

Honestly, though, how much irrational fear do the real gun rights fanatics live with...?

You're talking to a person who thinks all gun laws are illegal and that if he doesn't have a gun at him at all times minority urban youths will sense he's unarmed and murder him.

So... A lot of irrational fear, is what you're saying.

They have therapy for that now. Medication, even.


To be fair, it's a drug pushed upon him by a very ruthless dealer. Fox New is a hell of a drug.
 
2013-09-10 08:48:16 AM

badhatharry: Satanic_Hamster: Submitted this last week.  Kinda curious to what the **** happened.   I mean, what was this guy doing, patrolling the house with a gun out and no safety on?

Otherwise, did she jump out, go "boo," he screamed like a little girl, he walked over to get his gun out of a bed stand, and THEN shot her?

She entered the house while he was not home. Kid came home and heard noises upstairs. She hides in closet to try to scare him. He gets gun. He goes upstairs. He hears noise in closet. He shoots through closed closet door. This kills the girl.


Violated rule 4. Should be charged with homicide.

/Responsible gun owner
//That means being accountable
///You shot through a door dude, how farking stupid can you be, you had no intel as to what was behind it. You farked up big, you deserve PMITA prison.
 
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