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2013-09-10 08:03:39 AM  
I think this is just scientific proof some music is better than other.

I was super proud the other day when my 11 year old daughter suddenly squealed with delight when we were at the yogurt shop. Turned out Sinatra's "Strangers In The Night" had just started playing. Unless she's responding to racial memories from her great grandmother, it just means good music is timeless.
 
2013-09-10 08:04:05 AM  
My dad got me listening to Grand Funk Railroad Bo Diddley, so yeah
 
2013-09-10 08:05:02 AM  
That would be Grand Funk AND Bo Diddley. 'Scuse me for just getting off a 12 hour shift
 
2013-09-10 08:05:40 AM  
I'm not immume to it....

eil.com

// Damn good album... especially stoned
 
2013-09-10 08:09:02 AM  
My dad used to randomly sing the chorus to Tesla's "Signs" when I was little. He would never tell us what it was. Took us years before we figured it out.
 
2013-09-10 08:17:33 AM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: Freddy Fender? Boots Randolf? Polkas? Nah. I like my horrible music much better.



Shut your mouth. Freddy Fender was awesome.
 
2013-09-10 08:21:12 AM  

perigee: I'm against it.

Somewhere along the line, somebody got the idea that music was a disposable commodity with an expiration date. And a preferred origin, for that matter. That's pure marketing nonsense, and all of the arguments that stem from it are pretty much uninformed, or disinformed.

If you can develop an immunity to the small instrumental and stylistic differences, any age or origin of music is valid and fair for consideration. Al Jolson and Cab Calloway are bumptious and joyful, Fats Waller is sly and puckish, and George Formby and Eddie Cantor are pretty hysterical, in a Voh-de-oh-doh kind of way. Middle Eastern Oud music is half-brother to Indian Sitar and Sarangi ragas, and Irish Trad is a direct cousin to American folk.

In short, there's a lot of good stuff out there everywhere and everywhen, if you're open to the experience.

The trick is getting exposure to it. Exposure is what creates the immunity to marketing and vox populi claims of obsolescence, and it's hard to come by. Instead of accepting that children are programmed to enjoy certain old music because somebody gave them a cookie while they were listening to "Freddy and the Dreamers," perhaps it is as simple as they were exposed to music they found enjoyable before they were programmed by society to Not enjoy "that old stuff."

There are plenty of examples of people on this board who rejected their parent's taste in music, which shoots holes in the Pavlovian theory put forth in the article. The lazy insistence that cause-and-effect rules every aspect of human existence strips people of credit for their individual choices, at any age.


One word. Radio. That is the method still that most people around the world are exposed to music. In the commercial radio model, there isn't much money in flogging "oldies" or "gold" music, as that has pretty much reached it's potential market. They survive on commercial sales alone. The teenager enjoying the new freedom of driving often finds that mysterious radio station that suddenly speaks to him, and in the process, George Thorogood.

New releases, no matter which genre, are going to get far more promotion, which means more money from record companies. And yes, radio is still a major factor is bankrolling new artists.

So the radio stations can hit songs harder based not so much on which songs are better, but on which songs are more suitable for a business model. For example, I live in the Lafayette, Louisiana radio market. The 107th biggest market in the US. There are 2 competing country stations, among other formats competing against each other.

But in a market of 400,000 that also gets signals from the Baton Rouge market, is that needed? How can those 2 country stations really be that different? The commercials are the same. The music is the same. The answer is whoever wants to take more money from promotions for playing a new release. It's a business decision. The same with the other formats.

And if it wasn't profitable, they wouldn't be doing it. Guaranteed.
 
2013-09-10 08:31:51 AM  
Back in the '80s, I ended up in Boots Randolph's club in Nashville w/ my Dad. It was his pick for the evening's entertainment. Well, we saw Mr. Yakety Sax himself & it wasn't terrible; Dad shook his hand on the way out.
Later on, I rediscovered Western music (not country) & we would spend time listening to Gene Autry, Bob Wills/ Texas Playboys, etc.
Today, I listen to damn near anything non-Pop but still can tell Ernest Tubb from Tex Ritter.
 
2013-09-10 08:39:50 AM  
Well, let's see here: Dad liked Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Chet Atkins.

Mom was partial to Glenn Miller, Louis Armstrong, Frank Sinatra, Rosemary Clooney.

Yep, crap tastes. No wonder I grew up scarred.
 
2013-09-10 08:41:48 AM  
No.  No, we don't.

"Lake...  WLAK...  Beautiful music...  in Chicago...."
 
2013-09-10 08:42:29 AM  
Speak for yourself subby.

Raised on Pink Floyd, Cat Stevens, Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, Muddy Waters, Clapton etc etc etc.
 
2013-09-10 08:47:04 AM  
The 14-year-old of today will be humming "Gagnam Style" at the tricentennial.
 
2013-09-10 08:48:01 AM  
My dad was born in '53. For being an uptight navy captain, his music tastes lean acid dropping hippie when it comes to older stuff from the 60's and 70's. He and I have exactly the same tastes in music, especially female vocalists.

The only place we differ is that I have a soft spot in my heart for bluegrass while my father can't stand it.

My mother on the other hand listens exclusively to Irish Tenors, Celtic Thunder, Celtic Women, and she went through a Gordon Lightfoot phase. All I can say is I am glad the Edmund Fitzgerald sunk after enough 8 hour car rides to Santa Rosa.
 
2013-09-10 08:56:38 AM  
I liked a lot of my parents' music, except for my dad's dreadful country western and my mom's opera. But I liked the 60's rock, and I stole my dad's Beatles and Who albums and my stepdad's Pink Floyd, Blondie and Kate Bush albums.
 
2013-09-10 08:59:16 AM  
My parents were big fans of 50s-70s country and rock & roll. Some of it I still like very much (Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, Johnny Horton, Jerry Reed for instance) and some of it I'm not crazy about.

But I also made my parents fans of some blues and rock stuff I listened to when I was a teenager (Clapton, Floyd, Dire Straits, Robert Palmer, SRV, and most blues stuff I listened to.) so it worked both ways.

These days I listen to a lot of jazz and oddball rock stuff.
 
2013-09-10 09:05:42 AM  
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Thanks, Dad!

/no, really......Thanks!!
 
2013-09-10 09:16:39 AM  
No, I don't have the same tastes as my dad. He was an organ player, and he was a big Led Zeppelin fan before I was born. He also grew up in the age of disco, so he really likes to dance (poorly). Since I've been alive his tastes have changed to popular radio crap. For the longest time, I couldn't really figure out what made him like the particular groups he does. In the last ten years or so, I finally determined that he likes music that is made by a group that has a blond-haired chick in it that he wants to fark. In the 80's, he liked Madonna, who he wanted to fark. Remember that one-hit wonder Roxette? Yeah, he liked them cause he wanted to fark the chick in it. Later, it was Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Then on to Black Eyed Peas and Fergie. If the band doesn't have a blond chick in it that he wants to fark, then he doesn't like their music.

When I go to his house, I bring my ipod so I don't have to listen to that crap.
 
2013-09-10 09:17:14 AM  
Gordon Lightfoot
Emmylou Harris
Paul Simon
Doors
Eagles
Beatles
Seals and Crofts

Stuff like that. I think my parents were members of some tape/record club for awhile and that was the kind of stuff we had.
 
2013-09-10 09:18:19 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Well, let's see here: Dad liked Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Chet Atkins.

Mom was partial to Glenn Miller, Louis Armstrong, Frank Sinatra, Rosemary Clooney.

Yep, crap tastes. No wonder I grew up scarred.



I like your parents.
 
2013-09-10 09:21:28 AM  

Bedurndurn: The thing that most confuses me about my parents is how the music they listen to is frozen in stone. Dad listens to one radio station (Rock 102) that near as I can tell has played the exact same 100 or so songs every single day since around 1985 or so. I'm pretty sure the poor man has heard shiat like Fly Like An Eagle and Life in the Fast Lane literally ten thousand times.

I get that you like what was around when you were young, but holy shiat that's like 15-20 years of music. You deserve more than 100 songs.




I remember being puzzled by this when I would listen to classic rock stations. What I decided was that the reason they never play some of the more obscure songs by these artists is that it would defeat the entire reason for the stations existence. This is music as a security blanket; to perform that function, all of the songs have to be ones the listeners know by heart. A less popular Pink Floyd or Yes song would be disturbingly unfamiliar. An old unknown song is really just as bad as a new unknown song. The people choosing to listen to these stations don't want novelty. The concept of a top 40 of classic rock songs is a strange one. The Bob stations around the country are just about as bad. Sure, every now and then they'll throw in a song by The Cure, or New Order, but it's always Blue Monday, or Like An Angel.
 
2013-09-10 09:27:10 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: My dad used to randomly sing the chorus to Tesla's "Signs" when I was little. He would never tell us what it was. Took us years before we figured it out.


Maybe he was singing the original rather than Tesla's cover? It probably depends on how old your father is.
 
2013-09-10 09:28:55 AM  

endmile: No, I don't have the same tastes as my dad. He was an organ player, and he was a big Led Zeppelin fan before I was born. He also grew up in the age of disco, so he really likes to dance (poorly). Since I've been alive his tastes have changed to popular radio crap. For the longest time, I couldn't really figure out what made him like the particular groups he does. In the last ten years or so, I finally determined that he likes music that is made by a group that has a blond-haired chick in it that he wants to fark. In the 80's, he liked Madonna, who he wanted to fark. Remember that one-hit wonder Roxette? Yeah, he liked them cause he wanted to fark the chick in it. Later, it was Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Then on to Black Eyed Peas and Fergie. If the band doesn't have a blond chick in it that he wants to fark, then he doesn't like their music.

When I go to his house, I bring my ipod so I don't have to listen to that crap.


You misspelled "four-number-one US hits wonder Roxette"
 
2013-09-10 09:30:43 AM  

Harry_Seldon: My mother had great taste in music. I like Neil Diamond, The Carpenters, etc.


I chuckled. My mother as well. Her younger sister liked some cool stuff though. My aunt gave me an old copy of The Dark Side of the Moon in 1981, and I'll be forever grateful.
 
2013-09-10 09:30:47 AM  
My Dad raised me on the Clash, Pretenders, and Joe Jackson, and bought me tickets for Sigur Ros/The National/Dismemberment Plan (yay!)/etc this weekend.  We're 110% cool.

I still hate my Mom's taste in music, which ranges from Rod Stewart to Christmas Tunes.  We could agree on the oldies station, but they've started working in the worst of the 80s into their rotation.
 
2013-09-10 09:31:19 AM  
I'm an older Farker -- born in mid60s.
My dad liked 50s/60s folk like the Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul & Mary sprinkled with a little Johnny Cash. My Mom basically had no music preference -- a few 50s singles that were around the house -- mostly novelty stuff like Rock Around the Clock, Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport, Purple People Eater.  In the 90s, for some reason she got onto a Helen Reddy kick.  That was horrifying.
Only thing I remember them listening to on the radio was Prairie Home Companion and talk radio.

When all is said and done, I don't mind an occasional hit of Kingston Trio or Johnny Cash.... and I know all the words to "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport."
 
2013-09-10 09:32:36 AM  

skinink: I love my horrible taste in music. Lisa Lisa, the Cover Girls, T'Pau, Cathy Denis.


www.startrek.com

She's a musician? I knew Spock played the lute, but not her...
 
2013-09-10 09:49:29 AM  
My step-dad liked the beatles, rolling stones, pink floyd, jethro tull, king crimson, elp, santana, mott the hoople, david bowie, queen, allman brothers, eric clapton, alan parsons project, genesis, mamas and the papas, blood sweat and tears, frank zappa, led zeppelin, fleeteood mac, joni mitchell, james gang, deep purple, black sabbath, phoebe snow, captain beefheart, chicago, iron butterfly, elo, cream, jimmy hendrix, yardbirds, moody blues, miles davis, talking heads, blondie, joan jett, aerosmith, linda ronstadt, abba, zz top ...

And lots more if I were to search my memory more. Those were his main interests. :)

I do still love a lot of that stuff, especially the deep purple, black sabbath, santana, miles davis, queen, david bowie, and all the prog rock like yes, king crimson, elp and jethro tull. That sort of thing.

For years I went off the deep end into prog rock and jazz fusion and anything in the deep purple / whitesnake / rainbow family tree. Then into lots of neo prog and then into modern britpop. Recently lots of k-pop.

But my main love in the last two years has been salsa and bachata artists, timba, and some cuban music of other sorts. Ray Barretto, oscar d'leon, celia cruz, grupo niche, orquesta guayacan, bobby valentin, hector lavoe, willie colon, pupy, charanga habanera, aventura, bachata heightz, toby love, marc anthony, xtreme (different group), monchy y alexandra, carlos y alejandra, bobby paunetto, calle real, tommy olivencia, willie bobo, sonora carruseles, eddie palmieri, gran combo, orlando pabellon ... and the list goes on.

I really think he would have liked a fair bit of it (not to mention all the modern prog and prog metal I didnt mention) if he were still alive.

So yeah, my stepdad's musical tastes were a bedrock and springboard for me. I still love a lot of it.
 
2013-09-10 09:50:33 AM  
You never forget what was playing when you enjoyed your first kiss.

I'm pretty sure it was Marilyn Manson.
 
2013-09-10 09:52:43 AM  

Sgygus: Deep down we are all imprinted with the music we hear from age 10 to age 17.


This and BTW subby, when my dad listens to Led Zepp, the Beatles and the Stones, how is this "horrible"?
 
2013-09-10 09:54:21 AM  

KinetiKiteniK: I was raised in a moderately strict Lutheran household and music wasn't my parents thing. The only time I'd hear music was a mixture of Glenn Campbell and church hymns. I'm glad I found Slayer and Metallica in 1985.


fc06.deviantart.net

/oblig
 
2013-09-10 09:54:42 AM  
This is why I'm Yacht Rocking every weekend.
 
2013-09-10 09:55:36 AM  
Crap. Forgot to mention my stepdad was into the pretenders, dire straits, the clash, grand funk railroad, credence clearwater, eurythmics, ... No. This way lies madness. He was into so many cool artists. :)
 
2013-09-10 09:56:13 AM  
My Mom is a big Weird Al fan, going back to Another One Rides the Bus.

I never had a chance of a normal life.
 
2013-09-10 09:59:06 AM  

LewDux: endmile: No, I don't have the same tastes as my dad. He was an organ player, and he was a big Led Zeppelin fan before I was born. He also grew up in the age of disco, so he really likes to dance (poorly). Since I've been alive his tastes have changed to popular radio crap. For the longest time, I couldn't really figure out what made him like the particular groups he does. In the last ten years or so, I finally determined that he likes music that is made by a group that has a blond-haired chick in it that he wants to fark. In the 80's, he liked Madonna, who he wanted to fark. Remember that one-hit wonder Roxette? Yeah, he liked them cause he wanted to fark the chick in it. Later, it was Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Then on to Black Eyed Peas and Fergie. If the band doesn't have a blond chick in it that he wants to fark, then he doesn't like their music.

When I go to his house, I bring my ipod so I don't have to listen to that crap.

You misspelled "four-number-one US hits wonder Roxette"


Yeah, their music has really stood the test of time, hasn't it? Honestly, the only reason I remember this band is because of my dad. Otherwise, I probably would say, "who?"
 
2013-09-10 10:06:35 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: My Dad raised me on the Clash, Pretenders, and Joe Jackson


Your dad has great taste in music. All of that stuff is awesome.
 
2013-09-10 10:30:56 AM  
With all the show tunes I heard growing up, I'm somewhat surprised my parents were heterosexuals.

/it was a different time.
 
2013-09-10 11:34:07 AM  
If out of the entire history of people making music they found to be pleasant and worth while you decide to not listen to or attempt to appreciate music because your parents liked it, then I hope you can summon all that emotion on yearbook picture taking day.
 
2013-09-10 11:34:51 AM  
I hated everything about my parents music growing up because I was one of those "No one understand my pain but Ian McKaye, mannnnnnnnn" kinda doucher kids.     Now that I've gotten over myself, I like to go back listen to their music and I like individually dissecting the tracks and hooks.   A carefully crafted pop song where the sum is more that the total of it's parts can be a fascinating thing.
 
2013-09-10 11:52:23 AM  

Zizzowop: I hardly think so. My Mom use to listen to Neil Diamond, which isn't that bad I guess, but she also use to listen to John Michael Talbot. My parents are much older than I am, my Dad being 40 when I was born, so the music he likes is very different. His taste is quite odd too, the theme from the movie Flashdance being one of his favorites, yeah, I know, WTF right?



We must be related.
 
2013-09-10 12:02:39 PM  
Not entirely true....

BURN IN HELL, RED SOVINE!!!
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2013-09-10 12:27:30 PM  
My parents.. overall, the country stuff I still don't care for..

But overall, I listen to just about anything aside (c)rap and hiphop as it's nothing but mostly whining, enough to be country songs sound uplifting or so repetitive that it's like a broken record or are completely interchangeable.

My kids, listen to just about anything also... so we have a single collection that we all share.


/listening to Elvis this morning...
 
2013-09-10 12:35:30 PM  

Sgygus: Deep down we are all imprinted with the music we hear from age 10 to age 17.


Eh, I don't know about that. 10-17 year old me would've hated jazz, alt-country, rockabilly, folk, and a lot of stuff I listen to regularly now.

Back in my youth it was pretty much hard rock, heavy metal, or nothing. Nowadays I actually enjoy The Prairie Home Companion, and my Larry Coryell station is my most-used on Pandora. I still enjoy metal quite a bit, but it's gotta be something somewhat obscure or interesting to rock my boat.

/Also I loathe most of my wife's favorite artists. Especially all the 90s stuff she likes.
 
2013-09-10 01:03:46 PM  
There was a lot of good music my parent's listened to when I was growing up.  They really liked

- Simon and Garfunkel (not my usual fare, but I really do like it on occasion)
- Johnny Cash
- Merle Haggard
- Willie Nelson
- Hank Williams Sr (not Jr)
-Jim Croce (on selected occasions)
- Fleetwood Mac (hit or miss, but I really like some of their stuff)
- Elvis
- Beatles
- The Eagles (by far their best music, still love it today)

Generally speaking, they didn't go for anything harder, but pretty good stuff, especially on the "old" country side.  Once they got into "new" country they lost me.  Hank Williams Jr. is the worst offender, IMHO.

I was able to return the favor to them, after a fashion.  They really like Tom Petty and Johnny Cash's American Recordings and when I was a teenager, got them into Genesis/Phil Collins, Huey Lewis (when I was a fan), Blondie and even an appreciation for U2 later.
 
2013-09-10 01:05:09 PM  

PainfulItching: Wait. Johnny Cash is only mentioned twice on this page? It's the only thing my grandfather, father, and I really agreed about. Well that and Hank Williams. Senior. Junior tries too hard.


This.
 
2013-09-10 02:06:02 PM  

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I LOL'ed.

/and then put the Philip Glass back on
 
2013-09-10 02:17:26 PM  

cherryl taggart: My children are doomed.  Dad is playing 70-80's heavy metal on constant rotation in his car, and I swing from Neil Diamond to Hank Jr. and Merle Haggard, with some Alice Cooper thrown in, in mine.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


I'm looking forward to corrupting my niece & nephew. My sister and her husband have *ok* taste in contemporary music, and I have to give them props for the huge amount of classical, but they ignore a lot of really good, more modern stuff. Except Coldplay for some friggin' reason.

enderthexenocide: my dad is weird.  he doesn't really listen to music.  he doesn't own any music of his own and he's never once expressed liking a particular band or singer.  he just turns on classic rock radio stations and refers to it as "background noise."  he doesn't actually listen to it or pay any attention to it.  he's the only person i think i've ever known who really has no interest in music.


By any chance, is he tone-deaf? I've noticed that people who can't really distinguish notes and how they change tend not to care much about music and/or listen to really bad stuff. We all know those people who can't carry a tune worth a damn.
 
2013-09-10 02:20:32 PM  
Having deaf parents, I must be the exception that proves the rule. I'll give anything a chance, but modern country and polka.
 
2013-09-10 02:32:29 PM  
RyansPrivates:
- The Eagles (by far their best music, still love it today)


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-10 02:34:13 PM  

RobSeace: skinink: I love my horrible taste in music. Lisa Lisa, the Cover Girls, T'Pau, Cathy Denis.

[www.startrek.com image 320x240]

She's a musician? I knew Spock played the lute, but not her...


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-10 02:40:15 PM  
I love my parents' taste in music, as it's what shaped mine.  They were born in 1949, so their formative years were the 1950s and 60s.  As such, what some people would called "oldies" music is what I love listening to the most, followed by bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, The Rolling Stones and such, that my dad really got into in the 70s.  I do like some contemporary or modern artists, but I'd really rather listen to that.

Also, my dad developed a fondness for the stuff HIS parents listened to when he was a kid, and because of that, I've got more than a Frank Sinatra, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, and Rosemary Clooney albums.  Great stuff.
 
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