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2013-09-10 11:44:12 AM

100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.


.. except it does! You are seeing it strictly from a scientific standpoint (even then it's debatable but I won't get into that) in which I somewhat agree but IRL, in the real world ... upbringing, culture, environment has a LOT to do with race or specifically the race you're born into. You are in denial if do not see the connection between those variables in America today.
When a black kid tells her studious and high achieving classmate why she talk's white or acts white DO NOT tell me it isn't about race. When 90% of blacks thinks OJ is innocent while almost the same number of whites thinks he is guilty DO NOT tell me it isn't bout race.
You sit there all high and mighty thinking you're a person with impeccable morals and blind to the racial divide but the truth is attitudes like yours is actually making things worse by living in self denial and refusing to admit things as they are. Attitudes like yours insulates you from the real truth and prevents you from actively making things better as you foolishly believe DNA and genes is everything when in the real world the race that you're born into is a higher predictor than any DNA or genes can ever hope to be!

you sir are the foolish one.
 
2013-09-10 12:36:58 PM

100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.


I find it hilarious that you're offended about comments made about an article where a 31 year old mother stabbed her 17 year old son to death over ice cream.

Maybe this isn't the best thread for you to circle the wagons on the grounds that you are butthurt about racial inequality.
 
2013-09-10 12:45:48 PM

100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.


To be perfectly fair - if this headline was about a drunken, domestic violence fueled meth fire that burned down a trailer in Kentucky I would have assumed the participants were white.
 
2013-09-10 01:27:34 PM
FTFA:
Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.
"We're all feeling it... wish we could have done something to change it," said neighbor Michael Carney.

No, there was nothing  you could have done. You know who  should havedone something? The  MOTHERFARKING POLICE! Holy hell, people, why did it take the mother  stabbing her son for someone to notice there were a few problems in this household?

/Farking humanity...
 
2013-09-10 03:37:49 PM

PsiChick: FTFA:
Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.
"We're all feeling it... wish we could have done something to change it," said neighbor Michael Carney.

No, there was nothing  you could have done. You know who  should havedone something? The  MOTHERFARKING POLICE! Holy hell, people, why did it take the mother  stabbing her son for someone to notice there were a few problems in this household?

/Farking humanity...


What do you expect them to do?  The mother is trash, the kid is trash, and most likely everyone they associate with regularly was trash.

Are the cops supposed to go in and what?  Tell them how to live, send them to life training school?  Arrest the mother?  Arrest the teenager?  Take one or both into protective custody?  Who pays for it?  Who decides they would be better off living under the rules of the state?

You are walking a fine line there missy, and frankly I doubt you're equipped to make the necessary judgement.  Even if you are, it's unlikely you can convince the community at large that your judgement is the right one for THEM.
 
2013-09-10 03:48:09 PM

Kahabut: PsiChick: FTFA:
Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.
"We're all feeling it... wish we could have done something to change it," said neighbor Michael Carney.

No, there was nothing  you could have done. You know who  should havedone something? The  MOTHERFARKING POLICE! Holy hell, people, why did it take the mother  stabbing her son for someone to notice there were a few problems in this household?

/Farking humanity...

What do you expect them to do?  The mother is trash, the kid is trash, and most likely everyone they associate with regularly was trash.

Are the cops supposed to go in and what?  Tell them how to live, send them to life training school?  Arrest the mother?  Arrest the teenager?  Take one or both into protective custody?  Who pays for it?  Who decides they would be better off living under the rules of the state?

You are walking a fine line there missy, and frankly I doubt you're equipped to make the necessary judgement.  Even if you are, it's unlikely you can convince the community at large that your judgement is the right one for THEM.


In general, when there's multiple domestic disturbances that end with a murder, there's prior abuse. Last I checked? That's actually illegal. It's not a 'fine line'. It's against the goddamn law.
 
2013-09-10 10:31:45 PM

Frederick: 100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.

When a politician is caught accepting bribes, you dont check to see what party they represent;
When an athlete fails a drug test, you dont check to see what team they play for;
When a religious zealot sets off a bomb, you dont check to see what faith they ascribe too;
...because politics, religion and sports affiliation have about as much to do with being a "Farkwit" as race does.

There are plenty of worthwhile anti-discrimination causes to rally behind, opposing racial observations in a crime report is unproductive and seems purposely quixotic.


What on earth do my comments have to do with including race in a crime report?

As for this:

...because politics, religion and sports affiliation have about as much to do with being a "Farkwit" as race does.

Politics, religion and sports affiliation are all choices, and in fact, can say an awful lot about being a farkwit.
 
2013-09-10 11:44:21 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Frederick:
There are plenty of worthwhile anti-discrimination causes to rally behind, opposing racial observations in a crime report is unproductive and seems purposely quixotic.

What on earth do my comments have to do with including race in a crime report?

As for this:

...because politics, religion and sports affiliation have about as much to do with being a "Farkwit" as race does.

Politics, religion and sports affiliation are all choices, and in fact, can say an awful lot about being a farkwit.


You objected several times to the racial observations made regarding the articles subjects.  Did you not?

So you would object just as strenuously if it were pointed out that the accused were left handed, or blonde?  How about economic class; is that a choice?  Committing crimes is certainly a choice regardless of the criminals identity.  Why should some characteristic observations be off-limits?

/is it objectionable that I have noticed a seemingly disproportionate correlation between pedophilia offenses and Caucasian men?
 
2013-09-11 12:14:37 AM

SuperNinjaToad: .. except it does! You are seeing it strictly from a scientific standpoint (even then it's debatable but I won't get into that) in which I somewhat agree but IRL, in the real world ... upbringing, culture, environment has a LOT to do with race or specifically the race you're born into. You are in denial if do not see the connection between those variables in America today.
When a black kid tells her studious and high achieving classmate why she talk's white or acts white DO NOT tell me it isn't about race. When 90% of blacks thinks OJ is innocent while almost the same number of whites thinks he is guilty DO NOT tell me it isn't bout race.
You sit there all high and mighty thinking you're a person with impeccable morals and blind to the racial divide but the truth is attitudes like yours is actually making things worse by living in self denial and refusing to admit things as they are. Attitudes like yours insulates you from the real truth and prevents you from actively making things better as you foolishly believe DNA and genes is everything when in the real world the race that you're born into is a higher predictor than any DNA or genes can ever hope to be!

you sir are the foolish one.


Bullshiat. Upbringing, culture and environment have zero to do with the race you're born into. They have to do with the life you're born into. If race were a factor in upbringing, culture and environment, everyone who is black would have the same asshole tendencies as the clowns in this story.

And for you to think I actually believe DNA and genes are "everything" just proves you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. It's not everything. I didn't say it was everything. What I said is that genes and DNA are not relevant when looking at why someone turns out like these clowns. Their genetics are utterly irrelevant. The "race that you're born into" is not a predictor of anything. The culture perhaps. But culture is not race, and the fact that you can't tell the difference is exactly what makes you're POV so utterly invalid.

I can't believe I'm bothering to argue with someone so simple-minded as to actually use the phrase "you sit there all high and mighty."
 
2013-09-11 12:18:03 AM

armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.

I find it hilarious that you're offended about comments made about an article where a 31 year old mother stabbed her 17 year old son to death over ice cream.

Maybe this isn't the best thread for you to circle the wagons on the grounds that you are butthurt about racial inequality.


I find it hilarious that you think this is about me being "offended" or circling any wagons (with whom?) or addressing inequality in any way (that's an entirely different conversation, not at all relevant here).

The mother and son in this story appear, by all accounts, to both be worthless people. Their DNA has nothing to do with that. At. All.
 
2013-09-11 12:19:09 AM

armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: armor helix: 100 Watt Walrus: BigNumber12: What a tragedy, everyone was so surprised and shocked when they heard that this had hap...

Neighbors say police were called to the house for various disturbances several times a week since the family moved in a year and a half ago.

Oh.

Now this is actually relevant. I wonder why so many people in this thread are more concerned about what color their skin was instead of what kind of people they were?

Hint: Maybe the two are related. Just maybe.

If you have any evidence of that which is not anecdotal, bring it on. Race has fark-all to do with criminal character. Environment, upbringing, culture, sure. But those issues are unrelated to race.

A person's DNA is completely irrelevant to how they choose to live their lives. Farkwits are farkwits, regardless of color, and to think color is relevant is says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about any criminal.

To be perfectly fair - if this headline was about a drunken, domestic violence fueled meth fire that burned down a trailer in Kentucky I would have assumed the participants were white.


Yes, you would have. And here's the key point: You wouldn't have commented on it.
 
2013-09-11 12:26:14 AM

Frederick: 100 Watt Walrus: Frederick:
There are plenty of worthwhile anti-discrimination causes to rally behind, opposing racial observations in a crime report is unproductive and seems purposely quixotic.

What on earth do my comments have to do with including race in a crime report?

As for this:

...because politics, religion and sports affiliation have about as much to do with being a "Farkwit" as race does.

Politics, religion and sports affiliation are all choices, and in fact, can say an awful lot about being a farkwit.

You objected several times to the racial observations made regarding the articles subjects.  Did you not?

So you would object just as strenuously if it were pointed out that the accused were left handed, or blonde?  How about economic class; is that a choice?  Committing crimes is certainly a choice regardless of the criminals identity.  Why should some characteristic observations be off-limits?

There's nothing to object to when the characteristics under discussion are relevant. But the characteristic of race, or left-handedness, or blondness, are in every way irrelevant to whether or not someone makes the choice, as you so nicely pointed out, to commit crime. That choice is up to every individual, and the choice they make is in no way related to what color their skin is, which of their hands is dominant, or the color of their hair.

/is it objectionable that I have noticed a seemingly disproportionate correlation between pedophilia offenses and Caucasian men?

Is the fact that they're caucasian a cause of their pedophilia? No. So yes, it's objectionable because it's irrelevant. If you're looking for a root of their pedophilia, you must look elsewhere. That is also the case here. The root of the problems with the clowns in this family is not the color of their skin.

 
2013-09-11 12:26:49 AM
Fark farked my italics. Preview is my friend.
 
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