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(Quartz)   The world's largest solar-powered boat is just the world's largest piece of floating debris at night   (qz.com) divider line 55
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2013-09-09 05:39:50 PM
flotsam, subby... flotsam.
 
2013-09-09 05:41:04 PM
Yeah...TFA didn't actually say anything like that.

Bad subby...chasing that green dragon.
 
2013-09-09 05:44:13 PM
Well, to be fair, batteries ARE a difficult concept to master for some people.

How could they possibly they stuff all of that sunlight into that little round thing?
 
2013-09-09 05:44:31 PM
The name, Turanor, means "power of the sun," and derives from Elvish, a language created by J.R.R. Tolkien for his trilogy The Lord of the Rings

That's pretty cool. And by cool, I mean this.
 
2013-09-09 05:45:18 PM
Only if the night lasts longer than 72 hours subby.
 
2013-09-09 05:45:27 PM
Subby didn't read the article..trying to be funny.  72 hour battery life.  Probably be even better if they put a sail on it.
 
2013-09-09 05:47:24 PM
Named after an elvish term. Awesome.
 
2013-09-09 05:48:29 PM
www.tloose.com

The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat, but I suspect they keep a generator for amenities.
 
2013-09-09 05:51:57 PM

wildcardjack: [www.tloose.com image 850x458]

The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat, but I suspect they keep a generator for amenities.


This. Solar powered boats have been around since oh, 10,000 BC?
 
2013-09-09 05:53:43 PM
i100.photobucket.com
It's equipped with more than 800 solar panels, each of which can support the weight of a human, and which charge gargantuan lithium-ion batteries that are hidden inside the boat's twin hulls and power its two electric motors. When fully charged, the batteries can run the engines for 72 hours without sun.
 
2013-09-09 05:56:32 PM

wildcardjack: [www.tloose.com image 850x458]

The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat, but I suspect they keep a generator for amenities.


I was going to say, they should put airfoil wing sails on that either made out of solar panels, or translucent kevlar. Maybe they wanted to keep it purely solar powered and are not going for pure green performance. Heck, an onboard wind farm could also keep your batteries topped off without having to know how to sail.
 
2013-09-09 05:59:08 PM
Tumblehome pontoons are great up to about 12 knots then they tend to dive. The propellers are not efficient enough to take advantage of cavitation and the main hull is not shaped for wave riding. All in all it's what you expect: a party boat with a new roof.

Wake me up when there's a hydrofoil between the pontoons and they have true scimitars on the back.

Also, a rough estimate is 3400 NM from just off the coast of Spain to somewhere in the D.R. .. 22 days means an average of just over 6 knots. Most marine traffic is somewhere more than 12 and less than 25.
 
2013-09-09 06:00:10 PM
few penthouses or balcony cabins. no water slide for the kids.where is the swimming pools and hot tubs?  the worse buffet on carnival's worse ship beats this.
 
2013-09-09 06:03:04 PM

wildcardjack: [www.tloose.com image 850x458]

The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat, but I suspect they keep a generator for amenities.


Just think how much energy they could save if they made those sails out of solar panels. Or better yet if they managed to figure out how to make a container ship completely solar and wind powered.
 
2013-09-09 06:07:43 PM
Anyone want to educate me on those funky props?  It looks like they're half out of the water.
 
2013-09-09 06:10:21 PM
and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.
 
2013-09-09 06:12:22 PM
Sail boats were wind powered and are a proven technology with thousands of years of knowledge to draw from. If you really want an Eco friendly build a sail boat and use that as it's truly based on a renewable resource.

I ran into the Sea Shepard crew when they were down in Australia in Melbourne for a few weeks some years ago. They were busy giving public tours and tooting their horn about how they were green and good for the planet.

I than proceeded to ask why they were in a decades old obsolete ship instead of using a sail boat which used only a renewable resource for power. I got told off that diesel power was necessary to intercept whaling ships.

/They then tried to kick me off the public dock they were docked at.
//That didn't go over well with the policeman who was walking the dock.
///Damn hypocrites.
////Nothing against green technology, just can't stand greenwashing
 
2013-09-09 06:15:51 PM

Tr0mBoNe: just over 6 knots. Most marine traffic is somewhere more than 12 and less than 25.


So, flotsam that moves slightly faster than the tide.
 
2013-09-09 06:17:47 PM

bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.


They're helping develop new tech. You're just pissed that they are developing it for their own toys and not sending it to you to test. You should probably stop that.
 
2013-09-09 06:25:18 PM

bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.


Why the fark would anyone want to be rich if they couldn't spend some of it on stuff that isn't attainable any other way?
 
2013-09-09 06:29:02 PM

lacydog: The name, Turanor, means "power of the sun," and derives from Elvish, a language created by J.R.R. Tolkien for his trilogy The Lord of the Rings

That's pretty cool. And by cool, I mean this.


I, too, rolled my eyes at this.
 
2013-09-09 06:33:36 PM
Well, it is in the water ...
 
2013-09-09 06:35:17 PM

starlost: few penthouses or balcony cabins. no water slide for the kids.where is the swimming pools and hot tubs?  the worse buffet on carnival's worse ship beats this.


Unless it's one of those ones that loses power entirely.
 
2013-09-09 06:45:26 PM

bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.


If every project had to be practical & pay for itself, the world would be a far less interesting place.
Projects like this, and Branson's space plane are interesting in their own right, and push the state of the art in directions you couldn't go if they had to be practical.  Looking at the range of excesses of the rich, I'd rather see it spent on this

qzprod.files.wordpress.com

then this
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-09 06:55:56 PM
"Despite the boat's enormous size, there's only space onboard for nine crew members, who sleep in the ship's six rooms."

That's what kills it.  It's basically over 100 tons of solar panels and batteries moving 9 people in 6 rooms.  Nothing new here.  We know we can harness the sun for power.  Comer back when it's feasible.
 
2013-09-09 07:07:09 PM

lacydog: The name, Turanor, means "power of the sun," and derives from Elvish, a language created by J.R.R. Tolkien for his trilogy The Lord of the Rings

That's pretty cool. And by cool, I mean this.


The Briny Derp: Named after an elvish term. Awesome.


www.thelostogle.com

/I'm one of them
 
2013-09-09 07:39:14 PM
Lawl coupla these

www.rechargeable-lithiumbatteries.com

Or, you know, stuff that has been solved since WWII

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-09-09 07:43:29 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Lawl coupla these

[www.rechargeable-lithiumbatteries.com image 485x491]

Or, you know, stuff that has been solved since WWII

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]


They note, in the actual article, that the boat has batteries.
 
2013-09-09 07:56:32 PM

bigbobowski: when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS.


It's a seldom-recognized fact that it is impossible to place removable roof panels over the top of shipping containers.

I mean, it's not like you know what the height of the standardized stack of standardized shipping containers will be.  And nobody has invented the hatch yet.

Such a shame. We all bow to your awesome intellect, and appreciate the fact that we need no longer waste our time figuring out how to put solar panels on a container ship.

/you have made the world a measurably better dumber place
 
2013-09-09 08:01:26 PM

Lamberts Ho Man: bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.

If every project had to be practical & pay for itself, the world would be a far less interesting place.
Projects like this, and Branson's space plane are interesting in their own right, and push the state of the art in directions you couldn't go if they had to be practical.  Looking at the range of excesses of the rich, I'd rather see it spent on this

[qzprod.files.wordpress.com image 850x478]

then THAN this
FTFY
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x320]

 
2013-09-09 08:12:47 PM
Are the mods and submitters actually functionally illiterate or is this meant to mock people who assume that headlines reflect article content?

Fark is getting dangerously to Daily Mail territory.
 
2013-09-09 08:16:33 PM
72 hours worth of power stored in batteries is one hell of a long night. How long are the nights on your home planet, subby?
 
2013-09-09 08:27:13 PM

wildcardjack: The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat


Is the rigging solar powered?
 
2013-09-09 08:30:34 PM
ought to be one heck of a smooth ride.
 
2013-09-09 08:56:17 PM

gweilo8888: bigbobowski: when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS.

It's a seldom-recognized fact that it is impossible to place removable roof panels over the top of shipping containers.

I mean, it's not like you know what the height of the standardized stack of standardized shipping containers will be.  And nobody has invented the hatch yet.

Such a shame. We all bow to your awesome intellect, and appreciate the fact that we need no longer waste our time figuring out how to put solar panels on a container ship.

/you have made the world a measurably better dumber place


We all await with bated breath for your design that proves your simplistic idea. Just remember, physics is a biatch.
 
2013-09-09 09:40:46 PM
I see we have already covered Submittard's lack of reading ability.  So I'll pick on the article instead:

The solar panels, unlike most others, can support the weight of a human

Herp derp derp.  Industry standard panels can withstand a car driving over them.  You'd probably have to go to the market in Dar-es-salaam to find "panels" that couldn't withstand a human walking on them.
 
2013-09-09 09:42:17 PM

bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again?


To take uncontaminated air samples.  You must have learned to read from Submittard.
 
2013-09-09 09:50:29 PM
Hollie Maea:

Herp derp derp.  Industry standard panels can withstand a car driving over them.  You'd probably have to go to the market in Dar-es-salaam to find "panels" that couldn't withstand a human walking on them.

Harbor Freight sells a 3--panel array of 15--watt thin film panels for $139+ tax. They throw in a voltage converter and two lights as well.  The whole thing is a decent value, but the panels are very flimsy.  Cut crystal panels are much better for the long term, if a tad more expensive.
 
2013-09-09 10:04:44 PM

olddinosaur: Hollie Maea:

Herp derp derp.  Industry standard panels can withstand a car driving over them.  You'd probably have to go to the market in Dar-es-salaam to find "panels" that couldn't withstand a human walking on them.

Harbor Freight sells a 3--panel array of 15--watt thin film panels for $139+ tax. They throw in a voltage converter and two lights as well.  The whole thing is a decent value, but the panels are very flimsy.  Cut crystal panels are much better for the long term, if a tad more expensive.


I should have specifically excluded thin films.  They are generally strong but floppy.  Don't make up much of the market these days, though what with Silicon being so cheap.
 
2013-09-09 10:37:24 PM
Nice boat.
 
2013-09-09 10:47:13 PM

maxis_mydog: We all await with bated breath for your design that proves your simplistic idea. Just remember, physics is a biatch.


Yes, the physics of hatches are a complete unknown. Every ship I ever worked on had none, we just left ourselves open to the sea and prayed. Much better than dealing with that nightmarish talk of hinges, and opening, and closing. Sorcery, I tell you.
 
2013-09-09 11:15:11 PM
is that one of the sea shepards' boats in the background of the last photo? I'd be a much bigger proponent of renewable energy if it wasn't such a magnet for twatfaces.  otherwise, impressive boat.
 
2013-09-09 11:18:27 PM

toraque:

Well, to be fair, batteries ARE a difficult concept to master for some people.

How could they possibly they stuff all of that sunlight into that little round thing?

Little round thing?   Speaking as a former maintainer of batteries for telephone company offices, you want something more like this 6-ft high assembly:

www.people.vcu.edu
 
2013-09-09 11:24:15 PM

Slaves2Darkness:

Just think how much energy they could save if they made those sails out of solar panels. Or better yet if they managed to figure out how to make a container ship completely solar and wind powered.

Actually, I'm kind of surprised that there are no simple sail-powered transport ships.  Yeah, they'd be slower, but it takes a LOT of fuel to drag a ship across the ocean.  For loads that are NOT time-critical, it would be a great money-saver.
 
2013-09-09 11:27:00 PM
Come to think of it, with the rigidity of a lot of those racing sailboats' sails these days; would it be possible to make a sail of photosynthetic sails?
 
2013-09-09 11:30:30 PM

GeneralJim: Slaves2Darkness: Just think how much energy they could save if they made those sails out of solar panels. Or better yet if they managed to figure out how to make a container ship completely solar and wind powered.
Actually, I'm kind of surprised that there are no simple sail-powered transport ships.  Yeah, they'd be slower, but it takes a LOT of fuel to drag a ship across the ocean.  For loads that are NOT time-critical, it would be a great money-saver.


yeah but that's difference between a 3 day journey and a 5 week journey.  Also you'd have to have some HUGE sails to move one of those panamax and bigger ships.  Not that I wouldn't want to see it, we have a Tall Ships regatta here every year that's probably my favorite public event. If I had a billion dollars, I would absolutely build the biggest sailboat the world has ever seen.
 
2013-09-09 11:38:19 PM

DubtodaIll: yeah but that's difference between a 3 day journey and a 5 week journey.  Also you'd have to have some HUGE sails to move one of those panamax and bigger ships.  Not that I wouldn't want to see it, we have a Tall Ships regatta here every year that's probably my favorite public event. If I had a billion dollars, I would absolutely build the biggest sailboat the world has ever seen.


And perhaps even more importantly, that journey is weather-dependent. If you tell your clients that it's a five week journey, and then you get becalmed and it's a seven week journey, that's a big deal. Customers don't listen to warnings about the estimate being just that, and they get angry when their stuff doesn't show up in time.

Equally, if you tell your clients it's a five week journey and it shows up in two, it's a problem. Somebody, somewhere has to pay to store that stuff until it's needed. Either you (until your customer comes to collect it), or your customer. Either way, somebody's angry at having to pay for storage.

Of course, these problems happen with regular ships as well. (I know, I worked on one.) But they don't happen as regularly, and the magnitude of the lateness / earliness isn't so significant.
 
2013-09-10 12:52:35 AM
profplump

wildcardjack: The argument could be made this is the worlds largest solar powered boat

Is the rigging solar powered?


If the food for the army of riggers needed to operate that thing was grown in sunlight I'd say yes.

/I said Riggers.
 
2013-09-10 01:14:47 AM
They mention that the ship will run 72 hours on fully charged batteries, but not if the solar panels can fully charge the batteries while also pushing the boat.  Reminds me of those hybrid cars that can take a 100 mile charge, but run on gas after that.
 
2013-09-10 02:14:36 AM

bigbobowski: and the point of this million dollar waste of money was again? when you can do this on one of those Gigantic container ships i'll be impressed. except you never will because the entire ship is already covered in CONTAINERS. Rich people with way too much money. like that headline monger Branson and his "space plane" hey rich people you want the rest of us off your back. try advancing the human condition instead jerking off your own egos.


I think you need a tutorial on how innovation works.

And better direction for your rage.
 
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