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2013-09-09 03:39:36 PM
www.lolwut.com
 
2013-09-09 04:56:32 PM
You Klingon bastards, you killed my son!
 
2013-09-09 04:59:05 PM
You'd have to be a fanboi whiner to say the makeup work in that movie was anything other than all time greatest. Pure artistry on par with Michelangelo. I know it wasn't black shoe polish like all the Trekkies continuously ask for.
 
2013-09-09 04:59:12 PM
Those Klingons are to Klingons as Into Darkness is to Startrek movies.
 
2013-09-09 05:03:00 PM
I don't know why it wasn't just a guy with a goatee.

I thought they covered that Klingons looked like humans at that point on the various timelines. Generally with humor; With time travel, tribbles, and in jokes.

I was dissapointed in seeing a Klingon as having that much make up at all... but whatever. It could have been a nicely done send up, but they didn't go that way.
 
2013-09-09 05:05:34 PM
The new Klingons look like shiat
 
2013-09-09 05:10:21 PM
the only part of that movie that wasn't boring was the brief part on the Klingon planet

/not a huge trek fan though, so YMMV
 
2013-09-09 05:12:15 PM
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Is there a word in Klingon for loneliness? Ah yes...GARDAK!
 
2013-09-09 05:14:12 PM
Oh it can't be that....Petaq!! Really? Kingons are into the emo piercing scene now, are they? He needs a different gauge if that's the case.
 
2013-09-09 05:17:29 PM
No, see, it makes sense because a Romulan guy named after a Roman emperor who flies a mining ship that inexplicably has advanced future supermissiles came back in time and thus the Klingons evolved to look really silly because
 
2013-09-09 05:19:37 PM
Honestly, did it matter what they looked like other than brown and viking-like?

Enjoy your brown space vikings and STFU, whiny Trekkies.
 
2013-09-09 05:23:49 PM
And the Klingons still wear less makeup than the Kardashians.
 
2013-09-09 05:26:08 PM

Yes please: And the Klingons still wear less makeup than the Kardashians.


www.thepensivecitadel.com
Sees what you did there
 
2013-09-09 05:40:46 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: thus the Klingons evolved to look really silly because


I had a theory that in this timeline, Praxis exploded earlier (I think I caught a glimpse of a half-exploded planetoid as the Enterprise reached Quo'nos) than in the original timeline. Thus, the Klingon environment is devastated (Ketha province is not supposed to be a  barren wasteland in the original timeline - that's where Martok was born) and that's why the Klingons look different, because of mutations and radiation poisoning.
 
2013-09-09 06:02:08 PM
It isn't that hard to not look like a Klingon. I do that most days. Most days.
 
2013-09-09 06:03:16 PM
RexTalionis:I had a theory that in this timeline, Praxis exploded earlier (I think I caught a glimpse of a half-exploded planetoid as the Enterprise reached Quo'nos) than in the original timeline. Thus, the Klingon environment is devastated (Ketha province is not supposed to be a  barren wasteland in the original timeline - that's where Martok was born) and that's why the Klingons look different, because of mutations and radiation poisoning.


Or it means that this Trek exists in a totally sperate reality that we're free to ignore, knowing that  the Shatner, Stewart, Doohan, etc versions of the characters we love are still alive and well in their own universe.
 
2013-09-09 06:15:03 PM
BLINGONS!
 
2013-09-09 06:15:42 PM

Old enough to know better: RexTalionis:I had a theory that in this timeline, Praxis exploded earlier (I think I caught a glimpse of a half-exploded planetoid as the Enterprise reached Quo'nos) than in the original timeline. Thus, the Klingon environment is devastated (Ketha province is not supposed to be a  barren wasteland in the original timeline - that's where Martok was born) and that's why the Klingons look different, because of mutations and radiation poisoning.


Or it means that this Trek exists in a totally sperate reality that we're free to ignore, knowing that  the Shatner, Stewart, Doohan, etc versions of the characters we love are still alive and well in their own universe.


That's called fan-fic.
 
2013-09-09 06:24:23 PM

Old enough to know better: Or it means that this Trek exists in a totally sperate reality that we're free to ignore, knowing that  the Shatner, Stewart, Doohan, etc versions of the characters we love are still alive and well in their own universe.


I would have been fine with that if they didn't keep making references to Archer.  And since bumpy-headed Klingons appeared on "Enterprise" then these rebooted Klingon's make no sense!

I mean, I'm not a Trek fanboy losing sleep over it, but I do acknowledge it makes no sense.
 
2013-09-09 06:26:29 PM
costumefail.com

/Still more convincing than the ones she did
 
2013-09-09 06:33:20 PM
Can't we all just agree that JJ Abbrams can't be handed a pre-existing design of ANYTHING without puting his own (crappy) stamp on it
 
2013-09-09 06:36:42 PM

Researcher: I don't know why it wasn't just a guy with a goatee.

I thought they covered that Klingons looked like humans at that point on the various timelines. Generally with humor; With time travel, tribbles, and in jokes.

I was dissapointed in seeing a Klingon as having that much make up at all... but whatever. It could have been a nicely done send up, but they didn't go that way.


No, only certain Klingons.

First, Original series had no ridges until the Movies.
ST:TNG - More ridges than Ruffles
ST:DS9: The Worf's joke from "Trials and Tribblations," at this point the only time they mentioned the discrepancy, and even then just as a joke.
Enterprise: Actual retconning, where some Klingons lost their ridges when they were messing with some of the genetic engineering stuff that Arik Soong (Kahn's creator, Noonian Soong's ancestor) did - they used the same genetic info, but since it involved Human DNA, it removed the ridges for the Klingons they tried it on.

So, Klingons had ridges normally, only certain ones didn't.
 
2013-09-09 06:37:51 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: First, Original series had no ridges until the Movies.
ST:TNG - More ridges than Ruffles
ST:DS9: The Worf's joke from "Trials and Tribblations," at this point the only time they mentioned the discrepancy, and even then just as a joke.
Enterprise: Actual retconning, where some Klingons lost their ridges when they were messing with some of the genetic engineering stuff that Arik Soong (Kahn's creator, Noonian Soong's ancestor) did - they used the same genetic info, but since it involved Human DNA, it removed the ridges for the Klingons they tried it on.


FTFM
 
2013-09-09 06:39:09 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: Arik Soong (Kahn's creator, Noonian Soong's ancestor)


Kahn was born in the 80s or 70s and rose to power in 1996 with the Eugenics War. Arik Soong is from the 22nd century.
 
2013-09-09 06:41:17 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: Enterprise: Actual retconning, where some Klingons lost their ridges when they were messing with some of the genetic engineering stuff that Arik Soong (Kahn's creator, Noonian Soong's ancestor) did - they used the same genetic info, but since it involved Human DNA, it removed the ridges for the Klingons they tried it on.


IMO, reconning this joke was just painfully stupid.
 
2013-09-09 06:48:47 PM
So you think all Klingons look the same?

They're not Chinese for crying out loud!

My biggest problem with new Trek is the fact that they can get anywhere in the Milky Way in five minutes. Pretty much kills the whole wagon train to the stars or ancient maritime navy idea.
 
2013-09-09 06:50:46 PM

Fish in a Barrel: 1000 Ways to Dye: Enterprise: Actual retconning, where some Klingons lost their ridges when they were messing with some of the genetic engineering stuff that Arik Soong (Kahn's creator, Noonian Soong's ancestor) did - they used the same genetic info, but since it involved Human DNA, it removed the ridges for the Klingons they tried it on.

IMO, reconning this joke was just painfully stupid.


It didn't help that Uncle Phil was in that storyline.
 
2013-09-09 06:51:45 PM

BumpInTheNight: Those Klingons are to Klingons as Into Darkness is to Startrek movies.


Entertaining and watchable?
 
2013-09-09 06:51:49 PM

FROGSTOMPER: My biggest problem with new Trek is the fact that they can get anywhere in the Milky Way in five minutes.


Remember Star Trek V where they were able to travel to the center of the galaxy in a few hours?
 
2013-09-09 06:51:54 PM

Yes please: And the Klingons still wear less makeup than the Kardashians.


the Cardassians wear less makeup then the farking Kardashians.
 
2013-09-09 06:56:44 PM

RexTalionis: FROGSTOMPER: My biggest problem with new Trek is the fact that they can get anywhere in the Milky Way in five minutes.

Remember Star Trek V where they were able to travel to the center of the galaxy in a few hours?


Remember how Star Trek V sucks giant donkey balls?
 
2013-09-09 06:57:21 PM
What makes a REAL Klingon is a neatly trimmed Beard of EvilTM plus swarthy makeup plus attitude. Attitudemakes it. Ask John Colicos or Michael Ansara.
 
2013-09-09 06:59:45 PM

Metaluna Mutant: What makes a REAL Klingon is a neatly trimmed Beard of EvilTM plus swarthy makeup plus attitude. Attitudemakes it. Ask John Colicos or Michael Ansara.


They're both dead. Michael Ansara just died a few weeks ago.
 
2013-09-09 07:15:16 PM

Metaluna Mutant: What makes a REAL Klingon is a neatly trimmed Beard of EvilTM plus swarthy makeup plus attitude. Attitudemakes it. Ask John Colicos or Michael Ansara.


Except DS9 changed that too.

www.startrek.com
 
2013-09-09 07:38:22 PM
Hmmmph....I thought that Klingon was Tony Todd.....
 
2013-09-09 08:02:22 PM

Old enough to know better: Metaluna Mutant: What makes a REAL Klingon is a neatly trimmed Beard of EvilTM plus swarthy makeup plus attitude. Attitudemakes it. Ask John Colicos or Michael Ansara.

Except DS9 changed that too.

[www.startrek.com image 550x461]


A cure was eventually found...
 
2013-09-09 08:07:59 PM

BumpInTheNight: Those Klingons are to Klingons as Into Darkness is to Startrek movies.


Oh, give it a rest.
 
2013-09-09 08:17:10 PM

Badgers: /Still more convincing than the ones she did


I think her little granny glasses pull the ensemble together.

And ... is that? ... omg, it IS ... a pink Claire's bag!!!!
 
2013-09-09 08:24:56 PM

BumpInTheNight: Those Klingons are to Klingons as Into Darkness is to Startrek movies.


Entertaining?

You do realize that Klingons aren't real, right?
 
2013-09-09 09:15:50 PM

FROGSTOMPER: My biggest problem with new Trek is the fact that they can get anywhere in the Milky Way in five minutes. Pretty much kills the whole wagon train to the stars or ancient maritime navy idea.


FTFY.  When has that ever not been the case?  Also, magical transporters and amazingly universal language skills.

If you can't utterly suspend disbelief in the interest of a fun time, Star Trek - new or old - is simply not for you.
 
2013-09-09 09:57:36 PM
I thought the klingons in STID looked and sounded awesome. Big and intimidating. As a non-trekkie, to me they finally seemed "oh, yeah those guys look crazy". As I never understood the fascination with them before.
 
2013-09-09 10:18:46 PM

karmachameleon: FROGSTOMPER: My biggest problem with new Trek is the fact that they can get anywhere in the Milky Way in five minutes. Pretty much kills the whole wagon train to the stars or ancient maritime navy idea.

FTFY.  When has that ever not been the case?  Also, magical transporters and amazingly universal language skills.

If you can't utterly suspend disbelief in the interest of a fun time, Star Trek - new or old - is simply not for you.


I like Star Trek new and old, I have no problem suspending disbelief but when I watch the old, I feel like it takes them a while to get somewhere, if Picard and Data are going to Romulus and they get on a Klingon ship, they are given quarters because they have to go to sleep.

I know it depends on what the writers need for the story and whether they are traveling at maximum warp or just puttering around but I remember once Scotty saying it would take several days to get to Vulcan.

When the Enterprise went somewhere it felt like it took at least several hours, sometimes days or weeks. Now as soon as they pull out of space-dock they get an alert that they will arrive at Vulcan in 5 minutes.

My problem has nothing to do with me not believing that they could warp to Kronos in a few minutes or even transport there. I just wish they couldn't now, it kills the romance of space travel for me.

Also, I know this is the internet so maybe me saying I didn't like that one thing about the new trek made you assume that I hated it all together. There are a few other things I don't like about it, like turning the phasers into blasters but I still really liked the movies, both of them were my favorite movie of their year.

I saw the last one twice, once in Imax, and I'm going to rent the hell out of it from Redbox tomorrow.
 
2013-09-09 10:20:49 PM
IIRC, the Klingons were also supposed to have been attacked by Nero in the first new Trek movie, but that whole sequence was cut out of the final film. I suspect the changes to Klingon society and even their appearance has something to do with Nero's interference in their timeline, and his changes to the timeline that caused the relationship between the Klingons and Romulans to be radically different.
 
2013-09-09 10:49:44 PM
Subby here.  THESE are Klingons:


therealrevo.com/
www.wolfgnards.com
subspacecomms.com
cdn-static.denofgeek.com

And THESE are NOT Klingons:

www.hollywoodreporter.com
 
2013-09-09 11:14:14 PM
TOS had 3 seasons to establish Klingons... then a movie. TNG had 7 seasons. DS9 had 7 as well. Voyager and Enterprise just ran with it. Ultimately the later Trek set the tone. After some 25 years of newer Trek, what a Klingon is and isn't is pretty solid.

The new movie changing it around is going to be difficult for fans to accept.
 
2013-09-09 11:34:37 PM

gadian: Old enough to know better: RexTalionis:I had a theory that in this timeline, Praxis exploded earlier (I think I caught a glimpse of a half-exploded planetoid as the Enterprise reached Quo'nos) than in the original timeline. Thus, the Klingon environment is devastated (Ketha province is not supposed to be a  barren wasteland in the original timeline - that's where Martok was born) and that's why the Klingons look different, because of mutations and radiation poisoning.


Or it means that this Trek exists in a totally sperate reality that we're free to ignore, knowing that  the Shatner, Stewart, Doohan, etc versions of the characters we love are still alive and well in their own universe.

That's called fan-fic.


i'm pretty sure that the scripts Orci had a hand in writing were exactly that
 
2013-09-09 11:38:15 PM

Ghost Roach: Can't we all just agree that JJ Abbrams can't be handed a pre-existing design of ANYTHING without puting his own (crappy) stamp on it


Wait until you see what the new Jawas look like.
 
2013-09-09 11:45:22 PM

Mentat: Ghost Roach: Can't we all just agree that JJ Abbrams can't be handed a pre-existing design of ANYTHING without puting his own (crappy) stamp on it

Wait until you see what the new Jawas look like.


shirtoid.com
 
2013-09-10 12:12:02 AM

maltedmothball: Mentat: Ghost Roach: Can't we all just agree that JJ Abbrams can't be handed a pre-existing design of ANYTHING without puting his own (crappy) stamp on it

Wait until you see what the new Jawas look like.

[shirtoid.com image 500x500]


ABRAMS YOU BASTARD!
 
2013-09-10 02:05:09 AM

czei: Subby here.  THESE are Klingons:


[therealrevo.com image 250x305]/
[www.wolfgnards.com image 475x300]
[subspacecomms.com image 694x374]
[cdn-static.denofgeek.com image 620x413]

And THESE are NOT Klingons:


img.fark.net

Looks like dog scientists finally figured out the doorknob principal.

Basset Hounds With Attitude?
 
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