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(WTXL Tallahassee)   Did Florida delay a murderer's execution because: A) a witness has recanted; B) DNA evidence is in question; or C) the date conflicted with a campaign fundraiser for the attorney general?   (wtxl.com) divider line 37
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2013-09-09 02:02:32 PM
I am pleasantly surprised this thread is not about Texas.
 
2013-09-09 02:29:39 PM
They're delaying the execution by nearly a month. Now, if they were moving UP the execution date for some trifling reason, I might muster some outrage.
 
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2013-09-09 02:55:11 PM
I'm sure the prisoner isn't in much of a hurry.
 
2013-09-09 03:53:22 PM
"I'm sorry, we can't murder you today.  The attorney general responsible for your cold-blooded, psychopathic murder by the state is going to be fundraising, and she wants to be sure to be here to watch you be brutally murdered.  She gets off on it, you see, and we can't deny her her orgasm."

Everyone who supports murder by the state is a psychopath.
 
2013-09-09 03:55:19 PM
[Florida] on vacation?
 
2013-09-09 03:55:23 PM
Kind of like a final "fark you, this is how much we care what happens to you".
 
2013-09-09 03:56:27 PM
1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.
 
2013-09-09 03:56:41 PM
All about the Benjamin's......................
 
2013-09-09 03:58:41 PM

OneFretAway: I am pleasantly surprised this thread is not about Texas.


In Texas, they'd make the execution part of the fundraiser.
 
2013-09-09 04:01:40 PM
If Pam Bondi was just a smidge more attractive she'd be a harmless Fox news harpy instead of in a position of responsibility over people's lives.
 
2013-09-09 04:06:03 PM

freidog: OneFretAway: I am pleasantly surprised this thread is not about Texas.

In Texas, they'd make the execution part of the fundraiser.


On the other hand, the guy on death row is white; Texas probably wouldn't fry a white guy for offing a couple whores.

If he was black, and killed white Texan whores they would have offed him 20 years ago.
 
2013-09-09 04:07:19 PM

DarkVader: "I'm sorry, we can't murder you today.  The attorney general responsible for your cold-blooded, psychopathic murder by the state is going to be fundraising, and she wants to be sure to be here to watch you be brutally murdered.  She gets off on it, you see, and we can't deny her her orgasm."

Everyone who supports murder by the state is a psychopath.


Murder, by definition, must be unlawful in order for it to be murder.
 
2013-09-09 04:07:48 PM

Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.


I agree with you for the most part, except in the cases of guys like Dahmer, Anthony Sowell, etc. IMO, the world is better off without them in it.
 
2013-09-09 04:10:11 PM

DarkVader: "I'm sorry, we can't murder you today.  The attorney general responsible for your cold-blooded, psychopathic murder by the state is going to be fundraising, and she wants to be sure to be here to watch you be brutally murdered.  She gets off on it, you see, and we can't deny her her orgasm."

Everyone who supports murder by the state is a psychopath.


8/10
 
2013-09-09 04:11:18 PM
I am fine with this.  If he is scheduled to be executed his needs and wants are less than virtually any other consideration --including the whims and schedule of the attorney general.
 
2013-09-09 04:13:42 PM
ladyfortuna:

I agree with you for the most part, except in the cases of guys like Dahmer, Anthony Sowell, etc. IMO, the world is better off without them in it.

I'm with you on this one. If it's a clear-cut case where they practically catch the perp standing over the body, then yes, I'm perfectly fine with popping them in the chair. Otherweise, I'm happy with a life sentence.
 
2013-09-09 04:15:58 PM

freidog: In Texas, they'd make the execution part of the fundraiser.


I was going to say that in Texas, they'd move the execution up by a day, but your's is better.

wineguy: On the other hand, the guy on death row is white; Texas probably wouldn't fry a white guy for offing a couple whores. If he was black, and killed white Texan whores they would have offed him 20 years ago.


I call shenanigans. In Texas, aren't they equal opportunity friers?
 
2013-09-09 04:18:19 PM

ladyfortuna: Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.

I agree with you for the most part, except in the cases of guys like Dahmer, Anthony Sowell, etc. IMO, the world is better off without them in it.


I can see people wanting that but IMO the world is better off spending the least amount of money we can in dealing with them, and then who gets to decide where the cutoff is from total shiatbag to just shiatbag.
 
2013-09-09 04:26:00 PM
Well, it could be the Japanese system, where they don't give you an execution date.  They just pull you out of the cell one day and that's all she wrote.
 
2013-09-09 04:29:22 PM

skrame: I call shenanigans. In Texas, aren't they equal opportunity friers?


Eh, Death Row skews a little browner than the population as a whole, but for the most part, Texas will pop in the needle no matter what color you are.

Now, if you look at economics, that's where the "equal opportunity" thing goes out the window. If you're rich, you're not going to get killed. Poor? Might as well start cleaning the injection site with alcohol.

Then again, the population that commits violent crimes tends to skew poor, which makes the numbers trickier.
 
2013-09-09 04:33:04 PM
Two last meals, what more could you ask for.
 
2013-09-09 04:39:58 PM

UtileDysfunktion: Kind of like a final "fark you, this is how much we care what happens to you".


To me, it's more a "fark you" to the family members of the victim.

"Oh, we're going to delay the justice you're been waiting for because the attorney general gots to gets paid."
 
2013-09-09 04:52:19 PM
What I learned on Fark today: If a guy throws a cat, he should be subjected to the cruelest torture the human mind can conceive before being relieved of his pathetic life. If, however, a man brutally kills a couple of women and is lawfully convicted and sentenced to death, that is barbaric cruelty that no enlightened society should tolerate. Good to know.
 
2013-09-09 04:54:02 PM
Why doesn't this have a Florida tag?
 
2013-09-09 05:01:38 PM
im actually willing to say the inmate has suffered undue psychological distress due to this, if i had gone through allt he steps of grief and inevitable death, then get jerked around like this id probably lose it.

this is honestly borderline cruel and unusual punishment, even more so because it was for the $$$$
 
2013-09-09 05:07:07 PM

Gonz: skrame: I call shenanigans. In Texas, aren't they equal opportunity friers?

Eh, Death Row skews a little browner than the population as a whole, but for the most part, Texas will pop in the needle no matter what color you are.

Now, if you look at economics, that's where the "equal opportunity" thing goes out the window. If you're rich, you're not going to get killed. Poor? Might as well start cleaning the injection site with alcohol.


That's the great thing about statistics, one can manipulate the same data to support diametrically opposed positions. One way of putting it is that if you are black in Texas, you are 3 times more likely to be executed than if you're white. Using the exact same numbers, a Republican will say that more white people get executed in Texas than black.
 
2013-09-09 05:11:11 PM

mod3072: What I learned on Fark today: If a guy throws a cat, he should be subjected to the cruelest torture the human mind can conceive before being relieved of his pathetic life. If, however, a man brutally kills a couple of women and is lawfully convicted and sentenced to death, that is barbaric cruelty that no enlightened society should tolerate. Good to know.


I'm actually good with both of them being put down. Killing animals is a strong sign of sociopathic behavior.

'Course, now I kind of sound sociopathic. Whatever.
 
2013-09-09 05:44:52 PM

Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.


You know why it's an expensive waste of money? Because states give criminals an endless number of baseless appeals and continuances that last for decades. I say, you get one year to make one appeal, and if you can convince a jury that there's even the slightest, remote chance of reasonable doubt regarding the conviction, then reduce the sentence to life in prison and continue on from there, otherwise you've got 30 days to schedule the execution.

The vast majority of death penalty cases do not have any reasonable doubt, the ones that do are the exception, not the rule. Most death penalty cases are open and shut, you did it, someone saw you do it, and / or you admitted to doing it. End of story. That being said, I still believe the death penalty should only be reserved for the worst, of the worst, of the worst. Those guys that committed the home invasion in Connecticut, the Colorado theater shooter, any number of serial killers and child murderers that I can't think of off the top of my head. etc.
 
2013-09-09 05:57:53 PM

skrame: freidog: In Texas, they'd make the execution part of the fundraiser.

I was going to say that in Texas, they'd move the execution up by a day, but your's is better.

wineguy: On the other hand, the guy on death row is white; Texas probably wouldn't fry a white guy for offing a couple whores. If he was black, and killed white Texan whores they would have offed him 20 years ago.

I call shenanigans. In Texas, aren't they equal opportunity friers?


Texas doesn't discriminate by race or gender when it comes to the death penalty and executions.
 
2013-09-09 06:31:28 PM

spman: Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.

You know why it's an expensive waste of money? Because states give criminals an endless number of baseless appeals and continuances that last for decades. I say, you get one year to make one appeal, and if you can convince a jury that there's even the slightest, remote chance of reasonable doubt regarding the conviction, then reduce the sentence to life in prison and continue on from there, otherwise you've got 30 days to schedule the execution.

The vast majority of death penalty cases do not have any reasonable doubt, the ones that do are the exception, not the rule. Most death penalty cases are open and shut, you did it, someone saw you do it, and / or you admitted to doing it. End of story. That being said, I still believe the death penalty should only be reserved for the worst, of the worst, of the worst. Those guys that committed the home invasion in Connecticut, the Colorado theater shooter, any number of serial killers and child murderers that I can't think of off the top of my head. etc.


Following your rule, do you know how many more innocent people would be dead since the legalization of the death penalty in 1976? DNA testing has exonerated 311 death row inmates so far. 311 innocent deaths under your wonderful policy.
 
2013-09-09 06:38:57 PM

spman: Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.

You know why it's an expensive waste of money? Because states give criminals an endless number of baseless appeals and continuances that last for decades. I say, you get one year to make one appeal, and if you can convince a jury that there's even the slightest, remote chance of reasonable doubt regarding the conviction, then reduce the sentence to life in prison and continue on from there, otherwise you've got 30 days to schedule the execution.

The vast majority of death penalty cases do not have any reasonable doubt, the ones that do are the exception, not the rule. Most death penalty cases are open and shut, you did it, someone saw you do it, and / or you admitted to doing it. End of story. That being said, I still believe the death penalty should only be reserved for the worst, of the worst, of the worst. Those guys that committed the home invasion in Connecticut, the Colorado theater shooter, any number of serial killers and child murderers that I can't think of off the top of my head. etc.


Oops. I'm a moron. It is only 18 innocent people would have been executed. 311 is the total number of DNA exonerated prisoners, not death row exonerated.
 
2013-09-09 06:39:06 PM

dsmith42: spman: Headso: 1988 he was convicted, the death penalty is a waste of money at best and at worst it kills innocent people. That said, If the victims family is still around their feelings on this should trump the AGs little fund raising venture, you're telling these people this guy is going to be executed on this date and now he isn't.

You know why it's an expensive waste of money? Because states give criminals an endless number of baseless appeals and continuances that last for decades. I say, you get one year to make one appeal, and if you can convince a jury that there's even the slightest, remote chance of reasonable doubt regarding the conviction, then reduce the sentence to life in prison and continue on from there, otherwise you've got 30 days to schedule the execution.

The vast majority of death penalty cases do not have any reasonable doubt, the ones that do are the exception, not the rule. Most death penalty cases are open and shut, you did it, someone saw you do it, and / or you admitted to doing it. End of story. That being said, I still believe the death penalty should only be reserved for the worst, of the worst, of the worst. Those guys that committed the home invasion in Connecticut, the Colorado theater shooter, any number of serial killers and child murderers that I can't think of off the top of my head. etc.

Following your rule, do you know how many more innocent people would be dead since the legalization of the death penalty in 1976? DNA testing has exonerated 311 death row inmates so far. 311 innocent deaths under your wonderful policy.


99% of whom were originally convicted before the advent of modern criminal forensics. As soon as people who were convicted in modern times with modern evidence start getting exonerated, we'll talk. I also find it hard to believe that any of those 311 people wouldn't have been able to prove some kind of reasonable doubt, in fact I'm sure almost all of them would have been,
 
2013-09-09 06:46:06 PM
What? .. no Komodo dragons fighting George Bush with flamethrowers while bicycling in the nude? That was my guess ..
 
2013-09-09 07:14:41 PM

PhilGed: Why doesn't this have a Florida tag?


Because AG Pam Bondi is quite hittable....
 
2013-09-09 08:01:08 PM
Only two more episodes of 'Dexter'!
 
2013-09-09 10:09:50 PM

DarkVader: "I'm sorry, we can't murder you today.  The attorney general responsible for your cold-blooded, psychopathic murder by the state is going to be fundraising, and she wants to be sure to be here to watch you be brutally murdered.  She gets off on it, you see, and we can't deny her her orgasm."

Everyone who supports murder by the state is a psychopath.


Revenge based emotions aren't psychopathic.
 
2013-09-10 01:39:50 PM

Cataholic: DarkVader: "I'm sorry, we can't murder you today.  The attorney general responsible for your cold-blooded, psychopathic murder by the state is going to be fundraising, and she wants to be sure to be here to watch you be brutally murdered.  She gets off on it, you see, and we can't deny her her orgasm."

Everyone who supports murder by the state is a psychopath.

Murder, by definition, must be unlawful in order for it to be murder.


That's really weasely. Enough people can make anything legal just by virtue of there being enough of them.
 
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