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(Fox News)   This movie has been rated R. Children under 17 require accompanying parent. This movie contains some adult material, and may include adult themes, hard language, intense violence, sexually-oriented nudity, drug abuse or a strong Christian message   (radio.foxnews.com) divider line 174
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2013-09-09 01:58:11 PM
I'm not willing to defend the MPAA so I'll just say that everyone involved(including FOX for running the article) sounds stupid.
 
2013-09-09 02:05:45 PM
Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...
 
2013-09-09 02:22:17 PM

HawgWild: Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...


What's the rating on that?
 
2013-09-09 02:38:04 PM
Church Believes Film Got-
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Come back when you actually get oppressed for something.
 
2013-09-09 02:44:44 PM
I bet the movie has someone smoking a cigarette. That's an automatic R these days.
 
2013-09-09 02:57:32 PM
can somebody summarize the complaint - i ain't giving fox a click.

thanks in advance.
 
2013-09-09 03:34:07 PM
Let me guess: WE ARE SO OPPRESSED FOR BEING CHRISTIAN. WHAAAA
 
2013-09-09 03:42:04 PM

FlashHarry: can somebody summarize the complaint - i ain't giving fox a click.

thanks in advance.


Movie got an R rating for drug use and violence while World War Z and BULLY for PG 13 ratings
 
2013-09-09 03:51:18 PM
"A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.
 
2013-09-09 03:59:36 PM
The New Testament would certainly be rated R.

Lots of violence and Zombies.
 
2013-09-09 04:01:23 PM

Weaver95: "A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.


That doesn't make him an intolerant bigot, saying you can't get into Heaven if you don't believe/do something. He would be a bigot if he treated them negatively because of their beliefs. I'm not suggesting one way or another is right, Just that you don't know if this person is a bigot or not just because he believes in a strict interpretation of the bible
 
2013-09-09 04:05:57 PM

king_nacho: Weaver95: "A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.

That doesn't make him an intolerant bigot, saying you can't get into Heaven if you don't believe/do something. He would be a bigot if he treated them negatively because of their beliefs. I'm not suggesting one way or another is right, Just that you don't know if this person is a bigot or not just because he believes in a strict interpretation of the bible


Oh I think it's reasonable to conclude that this guy treats anyone not a follower of his beliefs in a negative manner.
 
2013-09-09 04:12:43 PM
photos.imageevent.comBut what was CAPAlert's take on it?photos.imageevent.com
 
2013-09-09 04:28:23 PM

Weaver95: king_nacho: Weaver95: "A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.

That doesn't make him an intolerant bigot, saying you can't get into Heaven if you don't believe/do something. He would be a bigot if he treated them negatively because of their beliefs. I'm not suggesting one way or another is right, Just that you don't know if this person is a bigot or not just because he believes in a strict interpretation of the bible

Oh I think it's reasonable to conclude that this guy treats anyone not a follower of his beliefs in a negative manner.


I don't know this guy, so I won't speak specifically about him, but in general people that i've met that are similar in belief, are typically very nice, and don't discriminate in their day-to-day activities. While they may think homosexuality is a sin. They don't hate the person, or treat that person any differently. WBC is a special group. But in general, this has been my personal experience. They believe you to at your soul be a good person that given the chance will someday find the "right path". That is why it is so hard to really dislike them.
 
2013-09-09 04:33:19 PM

vernonFL: The New Testament would certainly be rated R.

Lots of violence and Zombies.


It was Rated R. (Passion of the Christ).  So was that Wilam Dafoe one.  Life of Brian as well.

The only one covering the New Testament that was not rated R (and received wide theatrical release) I can think of was "The Greatest Story Ever Told"
 
2013-09-09 04:33:34 PM

HawgWild: Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...


Ditto

Like it a lot.
 
2013-09-09 04:33:37 PM
oh STFU you bible thumping piece of shiat.
 
2013-09-09 04:34:33 PM
This movie has been rated R for Religion
 
2013-09-09 04:34:35 PM
Pretty sure Passion of the Christ was R-rated. It was pretty much an S&M flick with Jesus instead of a man in a gimp outfit.

I don't really see why this film is R-rated though. Even though the rating system in the US is bogus, I think he has a point.
 
2013-09-09 04:34:42 PM

propasaurus: HawgWild: Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...

What's the rating on that?


NC-17
 
2013-09-09 04:34:59 PM
photos1.blogger.com
 
2013-09-09 04:35:21 PM

meat0918: It was Rated R. (Passion of the Christ). So was that Wilam Dafoe one. Life of Brian as well.


Life of Brian would seem an odd one, until I recalled the nudity.
 
2013-09-09 04:35:29 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Let me guess: WE ARE SO OPPRESSED FOR BEING CHRISTIAN. WHAAAA


Yep.  They made a low budget movie with lots of violence and drugs (to show how bad they are, of course, not to titillate the exclusively fundamentalist audience or to give them an opportunity to feel superior).  The MPAA gave the film an R rating for the violence and drugs.  The filmmakers and Fox then cried that the film got the R rating because it has "Christian themes," and this is part of the "War on Christianity" TMthat Fox has warned us about.
 
2013-09-09 04:35:29 PM
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2013-09-09 04:36:11 PM
I read Fox opinion page every week for the lulz, this asshole has a new persecuted christian piece up every time on clockwork.   Spends more time on the farking cross than his favorite fairy tale character did.
 
2013-09-09 04:36:46 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-09 04:38:27 PM

king_nacho: Weaver95: king_nacho: Weaver95: "A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.

That doesn't make him an intolerant bigot, saying you can't get into Heaven if you don't believe/do something. He would be a bigot if he treated them negatively because of their beliefs. I'm not suggesting one way or another is right, Just that you don't know if this person is a bigot or not just because he believes in a strict interpretation of the bible

Oh I think it's reasonable to conclude that this guy treats anyone not a follower of his beliefs in a negative manner.

I don't know this guy, so I won't speak specifically about him, but in general people that i've met that are similar in belief, are typically very nice, and don't discriminate in their day-to-day activities. While they may think homosexuality is a sin. They don't hate the person, or treat that person any differently. WBC is a special group. But in general, this has been my personal experience. They believe you to at your soul be a good person that given the chance will someday find the "right path". That is why it is so hard to really dislike them.


"Oh heavens yes I'm going to be polite to your face, I might even help you shovel your walks neighbor, but I'm going to vote against your rights and what pushes my special flavor of morality all the while looking down on you in a condescending manner, but I am a nice guy"
 
2013-09-09 04:39:15 PM
Have they actually read what is in the bible? Nc-17 at lest.
 
2013-09-09 04:39:36 PM
Todd Starnes.  So it's a lie.
 
2013-09-09 04:40:35 PM

HawgWild: Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...


This is the correct answer.
 
2013-09-09 04:41:06 PM
www.slantmagazine.com

Just like this film obviously singled out because of it's faith-based content.  Totally appropriate for the kids.
 
2013-09-09 04:41:35 PM

propasaurus: HawgWild: Sounds like someone needs to watch This Film is Not Yet Rated ...

What's the rating on that?


Amusing story. The director of the doc (on Kirby Dick) actually submitted it for a rating . The board slapped it with an NC-17. It went out unrated (and played in very few U.S. theaters as a result.)
 
2013-09-09 04:41:40 PM
There are some very specific, yet mostly unwritten, rules about how to get a PG-13 over an R.  The big movie studios know exactly where the line is and tip toe up to it but don't cross it.  The people who self finance indie movies don't know where the line is and frequently cross it with content that doesn't seem to be any worse than what a Hollywood studio movie gets away with in a PG-13.  This isn't an "anti-Christian" thing; it's an "anti-people who aren't in the club" thing.
 
2013-09-09 04:42:14 PM
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2013-09-09 04:42:39 PM

Dahnkster: [photos1.blogger.com image 680x1024]


Now THAT'S some quality blasphemy.


Meanwhile, FTA: But Kitchens said the violence was neither gory nor gratuitous. By comparison he pointed out the MPAA gave "World War Z" and "BULLY" PG-13 ratings. And "Jobs," which included scenes featuring LSD and marijuana usage got a PG-13 rating.

But what if a film has both the violence AND the drugs? Hmmm? And then there's the quality of the violence. Cartoonish violence vs. real fighty violence. I don't know. Looks to me like he's butthurt and wants to say that because his film is about Teh Juses he should get a pass on any MPAA rules.
 
2013-09-09 04:43:05 PM
Looks like someone doesn't know who to bribe to get the rating they want.
 
2013-09-09 04:44:51 PM

sendtodave: Have they actually read what is in the bible? Nc-17 at lest.


Only the PG-13 parts. Sanitatizing history and philosophy since before Caesar!
 
2013-09-09 04:45:08 PM

king_nacho: Weaver95: "A group of people out there don't necessarily like strong evangelical Christianity," he said. "People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else. But if you are a Christian, that's the message. That's what Jesus said. That's what you have to proclaim. People call us bigoted and then they go on the attack."

Ok, see that bit where you said "my way or hell bound"? Yeah...that makes you an intolerant bigot. Christ was late to the scene my friends...the old gods are still around and their ways are just as valid as anything the evangelicals believe.

That doesn't make him an intolerant bigot, saying you can't get into Heaven if you don't believe/do something. He would be a bigot if he treated them negatively because of their beliefs. I'm not suggesting one way or another is right, Just that you don't know if this person is a bigot or not just because he believes in a strict interpretation of the bible


Just because something is in the bible, that doesn't absolve you of responsibility for your own beliefs.

You CAN, in fact, be 100% biblical in u your thoughts, beliefs and actions, and still be a horrible bigot and terrible person. In fact, some would argue that it's impossible to be one without being the other.
 
2013-09-09 04:46:40 PM

Fart_Machine: [www.slantmagazine.com image 600x250]

Just like this film obviously singled out because of it's faith-based content.  Totally appropriate for the kids.


Honest question: Did the Romans treat Jesus any worse than any other person headed to crucifixion?
 
2013-09-09 04:46:44 PM
I see no problem with this.
 
2013-09-09 04:47:15 PM

lilplatinum: I read Fox opinion page every week for the lulz, this asshole has a new persecuted christian piece up every time on clockwork.   Spends more time on the farking cross than his favorite fairy tale character did.


THIS.

Todd Starnes... manufacturer of outrage.
 
2013-09-09 04:47:29 PM
...slapped it with an NC-17 (thus inadvertently proving true Mr. Dick's thesis that indie films get rated harsher by the board than do films with major studio backing.)
 
2013-09-09 04:47:38 PM

Fart_Machine: [www.slantmagazine.com image 600x250]

Just like this film obviously singled out because of it's faith-based content.  Totally appropriate for the kids.


Religious content is the only reason that film was not rated NC-17.

/My reaction to the film was (A) ffs stop beating that dude; (B) relief when he was put on the cross because they finally stopped beating him.
 
2013-09-09 04:48:44 PM

Ed Grubermann: Fart_Machine: [www.slantmagazine.com image 600x250]

Just like this film obviously singled out because of it's faith-based content.  Totally appropriate for the kids.

Honest question: Did the Romans treat Jesus any worse than any other person headed to crucifixion?


Well, usually they just tied the person to the crucifix with ropes, if i remember right. The person usually suffocated after a while due to being hung by the arms at that angle.
 
2013-09-09 04:49:02 PM
From the comments: "...the issue here is equal treatment under the law..."

I trudged through the article, only to get to this jewel and stop. Oh sure, there are problems with this--as someone in the comments pointed out, the MPAA rating is entirely voluntary--but this gem of a comment is hilarious, especially given the source (Christianists). You see, all they want is equal treatment under the law...except when someone does something with which they do not agree. In that case, only the Christianists deserve equal treatment. Gay people? Muslims? The handicapped? Screw them--equal treatment is for the right kind of people only.

/Sounds quite a bit like something you might have heard about fifty years ago
//Except the same people are substituting other classifications of people this time
 
2013-09-09 04:49:41 PM
People don't like to hear that it's this one way (to heaven) and nothing else

F*ck you dude, f*ck you
 
2013-09-09 04:50:22 PM
'Maybe crazy is the only answer'
/ok, i'm done with that trailer.
 
2013-09-09 04:51:46 PM
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2013-09-09 04:52:48 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Dahnkster: [photos1.blogger.com image 680x1024]

Now THAT'S some quality blasphemy.


Meanwhile, FTA: But Kitchens said the violence was neither gory nor gratuitous. By comparison he pointed out the MPAA gave "World War Z" and "BULLY" PG-13 ratings. And "Jobs," which included scenes featuring LSD and marijuana usage got a PG-13 rating.

But what if a film has both the violence AND the drugs? Hmmm? And then there's the quality of the violence. Cartoonish violence vs. real fighty violence. I don't know. Looks to me like he's butthurt and wants to say that because his film is about Teh Juses he should get a pass on any MPAA rules.


Yup.  Even minor drug use can bump up the rating by a lot.  Roger Ebert once wrote an entire column beating up the MPAA on the rating of a single movie-it was a child-friendly movie that happened to have a bong in the background of one scene (not even being used or mentioned, just sitting on a bookshelf in the background with a bunch of other stuff), so it got a PG-13 instead of the G it would have gotten without the bong (which also prevented them from using his "Fun for the whole family"-type review quote in the ads for the movie).

Violence is also an issue, especially if there's blood.  Shoot 100 people but no blood comes out-PG-13.  Shoot one person but there's a squirt of blood-R.
 
2013-09-09 04:52:54 PM

Ed Grubermann: Fart_Machine: [www.slantmagazine.com image 600x250]

Just like this film obviously singled out because of it's faith-based content.  Totally appropriate for the kids.

Honest question: Did the Romans treat Jesus any worse than any other person headed to crucifixion?

 Honest question: Why should that matter?
 
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