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(People Magazine)   Diana Nyad is meeting with swimmers who, for some reason, are calling bullshiat on the 64-year old's claim to have swum the 110 miles of open water from Florida to Cuba without a shark cage and in just under 53 hours   (people.com) divider line 115
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2013-09-09 12:33:21 PM
'cause when I think elite swimmer I think of a 64 woman with no muscle tone.
 
2013-09-09 02:00:55 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: a 64 woman with no muscle tone.


I think you're thinking of the different person, because the one I'm thinking of has arms like tree trunks and legs to match.

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2013-09-09 02:08:01 PM
2 miles an hour? Man, that's a tough pace. I've done that in a pool (for ... 2 1/2 miles) I can't imagine doing that in the open ocean.
 
2013-09-09 02:14:33 PM

Nadie_AZ: 2 miles an hour? Man, that's a tough pace. I've done that in a pool (for ... 2 1/2 miles) I can't imagine doing that in the open ocean.


She's swimming with the currents. That makes a big difference.

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2013-09-09 02:17:47 PM
This lady is an inspiration. I bought this book for my wife and I've never been able to get her to do anything, but she read this book and a year later was wanting me to run marathons with her:  Diana Nyads Basic Training For Women

/I regretted getting her that book
//But damn if that woman isn't inspirational
 
2013-09-09 02:23:31 PM
You would have thought someone on the boat would have thought to record this event. Lack of video is very odd.
 
2013-09-09 02:28:18 PM
Is there a shark cage that allows you to swim? People keep bringing this up, but all I can picture is those huge steel cages that underwater photographers get in to.
 
2013-09-09 02:28:24 PM
If you were going to set a record would it kill you to have a camera running at all times just for this purpose?
 
2013-09-09 02:28:43 PM
Seems legit
www.mediocreathlete.com
 
2013-09-09 02:29:40 PM
 
2013-09-09 02:33:39 PM
Has the internet made a "Nyad cat" yet?  It seems like that's the sort of thing that would have been done within about four seconds, but I can't find one yet.  Is the internet slipping, or just my Google-fu?
 
2013-09-09 02:34:35 PM
i147.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-09 02:34:48 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: You would have thought someone on the boat would have thought to record this event. Lack of video is very odd.


unless they have 53 hours of unbroken video, people will still be skeptical.
 
2013-09-09 02:39:40 PM

SlothB77: Mid_mo_mad_man: You would have thought someone on the boat would have thought to record this event. Lack of video is very odd.

unless they have 53 hours of unbroken video, people will still be skeptical.




If was trying to break a record I would tape it all. Then sell the film rights
 
2013-09-09 02:43:13 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Has the internet made a "Nyad cat" yet?  It seems like that's the sort of thing that would have been done within about four seconds, but I can't find one yet.  Is the internet slipping, or just my Google-fu?


Maybe the internet is finally realizing no one cares about their cats. Actually, I doubt that...
 
2013-09-09 02:43:55 PM
You people are SO cynical!   Next you're gonna try and disparage Mark McGuire and Lance Armstrong.
 
2013-09-09 02:44:26 PM
www.spikesnstars.com
 
2013-09-09 02:45:23 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Is there a shark cage that allows you to swim? People keep bringing this up, but all I can picture is those huge steel cages that underwater photographers get in to.


Yes, it is open at the top.  A boat runs along side of you to carry/move the cage as you swim.
 
2013-09-09 02:45:58 PM

Elegy: I think you're thinking of the different person, because the one I'm thinking of has arms like tree trunks and legs to match.


She has more chicken wing than bicep.

Actually that may help her in the water. Kind of like flippers.
 
2013-09-09 02:47:37 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Is there a shark cage that allows you to swim? People keep bringing this up, but all I can picture is those huge steel cages that underwater photographers get in to.


That one bugs me too.  The thing would have to be pulled along by boat or some sort of mini sub, which would easily cause people to claim she was hitching a ride instead of swimming.
 
2013-09-09 02:48:09 PM
Well, she looked like sh*t when she got out of the water. So if she cheated, she beat the hell out of herself to make it look real.
 
2013-09-09 02:50:45 PM
If she did it, then she knows she did it and for driven people like her that's the only truth you care about.

There will always be people lining up to tell you what you didn't do, because they couldn't.
 
2013-09-09 02:51:04 PM
If people are skeptical about this, then why aren't they skeptical about the 80 year old japanese man who climbed everest a couple of months ago?

/dnrtfa
 
2013-09-09 02:54:49 PM
I'm not skeptical, but I can't even stay awake 53 hours, much less swim continuously all that time.

Amazing feat, if she really did it.
 
2013-09-09 02:59:07 PM

AntonChigger: If people are skeptical about this, then why aren't they skeptical about the 80 year old japanese man who climbed everest a couple of months ago?

/dnrtfa


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2013-09-09 03:00:23 PM
Well but it wasn't a continuous swim either because she was tweeting or something from the boat towards the end.

I mean really if you get in and out of the water I could - in enough time - make any swim on earth.
 
2013-09-09 03:01:39 PM

Flappyhead: HotWingConspiracy: Is there a shark cage that allows you to swim? People keep bringing this up, but all I can picture is those huge steel cages that underwater photographers get in to.

That one bugs me too.  The thing would have to be pulled along by boat or some sort of mini sub, which would easily cause people to claim she was hitching a ride instead of swimming.


There is a shark cage you can swim in - and people have used it to cross from Cuba before - the problem is since it's towed it creates a draft which eases the swim. Well "problem" in quotes, it's impressive as hell, but is in a different category than free swimming from Cuba to Florida. She was swimming w/o a cage.

Wearing a suit to protect you from jellyfish? That seems a reasonable precaution that would still count as a free swim, quite different from drafting off the cage (if the cage *didn't* create a slipstream, I'm sure it would count as an unaided swim).
 
2013-09-09 03:02:33 PM
So let me get this straight: people are angry that she didn't use a protocol designed for swimming 13 miles in cold water during her 110-mile warm water swim?

I'm skeptical of Chris Froome's Tour de France win this year because he didn't pull the spinout lever on his Big Wheel at the bottom of every hill, which is what my friends and I agreed you had to do when we were all 6.
 
2013-09-09 03:03:02 PM
Open water swimming shark cages.

www.thetimes.co.uk

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2013-09-09 03:04:13 PM

dalbuc: make any swim on earth.


Good luck

img837.imageshack.us


/current wallpaper
// he looks so happy! Look at that smile
 
2013-09-09 03:06:19 PM

Sybarite: Open water swimming shark cages.

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It says Fibber McGee right on it! It's clearly made for liars!
 
2013-09-09 03:07:22 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: /current wallpaper
// he looks so happy! Look at that smile


Just looking at that picture makes me nervous. Sharks can't attack through computer screens, can they?
 
2013-09-09 03:09:58 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: You would have thought someone on the boat would have thought to record this event. Lack of video is very odd.


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2013-09-09 03:11:36 PM

wingnut396: HotWingConspiracy: Is there a shark cage that allows you to swim? People keep bringing this up, but all I can picture is those huge steel cages that underwater photographers get in to.

Yes, it is open at the top.  A boat runs along side of you to carry/move the cage as you swim.


Ah ok.

Still though, cage or no cage she looked like warmed over death when she was finished. Unless they had a bench sander on that boat that they destroyed her face with, I think she's probably legit.
 
2013-09-09 03:11:47 PM

Electromax: If she did it, then she knows she did it and for driven people like her that's the only truth you care about.

There will always be people lining up to tell you what you didn't do, because they couldn't.


?

Lance Armstrong was pretty convinced he truthfully earned his victories.

Everyone else disagrees, no matter how driven he was.
 
2013-09-09 03:13:06 PM
I thought Nyads did better in fresh water.
 
2013-09-09 03:14:23 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: The Stealth Hippopotamus: /current wallpaper
// he looks so happy! Look at that smile

Just looking at that picture makes me nervous. Sharks can't attack through computer screens, can they?


You should see the high rez one I have on my screen.

stupid fark and its stupid limit
 
2013-09-09 03:16:05 PM

bacongood: Lance Armstrong was pretty convinced he truthfully earned his victories.

Everyone else disagrees, no matter how driven he was.


If he were really driven, that would be WAY more illegitimate.
 
2013-09-09 03:16:27 PM
Swimmer here.  It's not possible unless she was:

a)  Drafting off a boat
b)  Swimming with some amazing current.

Otherwise, she's full of shiat.
 
2013-09-09 03:18:36 PM
People also criticize the use of shark cages as "cheating"  through drafting.

Let's face it, nobody is going to beat my cross Atlantic swim even though haters debate my techniques to this day.

Granted it may have been aided by an inflatable raft and the fact that I was passed out on top of said raft in the Lido deck pool of a fast moving Carnival Cruise line.  The fact that I wasn't technically swimming or breathing after ingesting what I think were twoQuaaludes and five fishbowl-sized mai-tais are beside the point.  I crossed the Atlantic in a body of water.

It was still real swimming to me dammit.
 
2013-09-09 03:22:15 PM

brap: It was still real swimming to me dammit.


You swam to the raft, did you not? You swam, and you crossed the Atlantic. I don't see how it gets any clearer than that. I swam a bit in Europe, which is across the Atlantic, so I'm fully correct in saying that I swam across the Atlantic. Not my fault people interpret it a different way.
 
2013-09-09 03:27:03 PM

JasonOfOrillia: I thought Nyads did better in fresh water.


A valid point. Clearly she should change her name to Oceanid.
 
2013-09-09 03:28:32 PM
My only real reaction to this story is how appropriate it is that the swimmer is named Naiad (and her first name is an anagram of that, too).
 
2013-09-09 03:30:32 PM
Wad she doing a pee pee dance part of the way?

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2013-09-09 03:31:03 PM
53 straight hours of swimming with no food or water. I'm sure that happened.
 
2013-09-09 03:31:21 PM
I understand where the critics come from, half way through the swim she went from 1.5mph to over 3mph, You would think your speed would change up and down, but the overall speed would be about the same, she jumped for quite a distance going twice as fast.

Its possible the currant got involved, but when seasonal swimmers call BS then maybe they are onto something.

/knows jack about swimming, just puzzled for the first 20 or 30 miles she swam slow then all sudden jumped for a good hour.
 
2013-09-09 03:31:52 PM
Rosie Ruiz saw her on the subway?
 
2013-09-09 03:43:25 PM

Blink: Swimmer here.  It's not possible unless she was:

a)  Drafting off a boat
b)  Swimming with some amazing current.

Otherwise, she's full of shiat.


Well, it's a good thing TFA doesn't mention a perfect current for the swim. Oh wait, it does? Well spank my ass.
 
2013-09-09 03:50:53 PM

justtray: 53 straight hours of swimming with no food or water. I'm sure that happened.


I don't believe anyone is saying that did happen.  Where did you get the idea that she had no food or water during the swim?
 
2013-09-09 03:52:39 PM

Blink: Swimmer here.  It's not possible unless she was:

a)  Drafting off a boat
b)  Swimming with some amazing current.

Otherwise, she's full of shiat.


Misconduc: overall speed would be about the same, she jumped for quite a distance going twice as fast.

Its possible the currant got involved, but when seasonal swimmers call BS then maybe they are onto something.

/knows jack about swimming, just puzzled for the first 20 or 30 miles she swam slow then all sudden jumped for a good hour.


They have offered to provide all of the data including currents. If they provide GPS, the currents can be checked independently.

Why not reserve judgment until all the data is out? I would love this to be true but if the data suggest BS or they appear to be hiding anything, I would question the swim.

I think that she has done herself a disservice by alienating herself from the marathon swim community and this will create the closest investigation of her claim which will ideally prove or refute the swim.
 
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