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(Politico)   Elizabeth Warren believes the SCOTUS is too far right. Vows to fix that in 2016 *wink*   (politico.com) divider line 26
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2013-09-09 11:05:27 AM  
4 votes:

Wooly Bully: How could any regular citizen not like Warren?


People have a vague, unfocused anger at Wall Street without a real understanding of how horrible the big banks are and how lawless the financial system has become.  Warren has been one of its most outspoken opponents and managed to defeat a tough Wall Street-funded opponent to take her seat.  She's the best shot at the real deal we've had in a very long time.
2013-09-09 10:58:17 AM  
3 votes:
Warren/Franken 2016

Book it, done.  You heard it here first.
2013-09-09 11:19:41 AM  
2 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: Zombie Butler: I wont take Hillary at all, bleh another Clinton in the White house. Gods I hope not.

Yea Warren would get my vote.

So you'll vote for Warren if she's the nominee, but won't vote for Clinton if she is instead?



I can't speak for Zombie Butler, but as for myself, I'd vote for either of them.

However I'd be a couple orders of magnitude more willing to volunteer for Warren. I'd even phone bank for her all year long and I F'ING HATE PHONE BANKING. I think Clinton would be a competent President but I probably wouldn't fall in love with her. I'd knock on a few doors for a Clinton GOTV effort if she's the nominee but to my mind it would be kind of an afterthought to making sure Sen. Ron Johnson's defeated.
2013-09-09 11:10:50 AM  
2 votes:
Hey, Republicans, you still glad Elizabeth Warren isn't the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau chair? You sure did stick it to dem libz!

Say, what's Sen. Scott Brown have to say about all this?
2013-09-09 11:09:38 AM  
2 votes:

Sergeant Grumbles: Rapmaster2000: Is Elizabeth Warren the new Hillary Clinton/Nancy Pelosi?

I assume I'll be hearing about how ugly she is pretty soon.

You mean you haven't heard that already? And I'm surprised there hasn't been a squaw comment yet...
Just like with Clinton and Pelosi, there's an outright irrational hatred that rivals Obama derangement syndrome. An old white guy democrat is at least the right color for Republicans, even if he still needs impeached for daring to govern while Democrat, but a woman or minority? Foaming at the mouth insanity.


The "Nancy Pelosi is so ugly" meme is bizarre.  She's in her 70s.  Are septugenarians supposed to be hot?
2013-09-09 11:06:25 AM  
2 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Is Elizabeth Warren the new Hillary Clinton/Nancy Pelosi?

I assume I'll be hearing about how ugly she is pretty soon.


You mean you haven't heard that already? And I'm surprised there hasn't been a squaw comment yet...
Just like with Clinton and Pelosi, there's an outright irrational hatred that rivals Obama derangement syndrome. An old white guy democrat is at least the right color for Republicans, even if he still needs impeached for daring to govern while Democrat, but a woman or minority? Foaming at the mouth insanity.
2013-09-09 10:58:39 AM  
2 votes:
I'd take her over Hillary.
2013-09-09 10:57:10 AM  
2 votes:

Coach_J: In related news...water still wet, sun still shining.


It's not just the courts, Ms. Warren, it's also the government. But if headway can be made here, it would be a great start.
2013-09-09 04:37:48 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Riche: Biatching is my right. Biatching is my duty as an American citizen. biatching is damn near the only thing left to us voters who want real change on the national level.

So no I WILL NOT shut up.You will just have to farking deal with it. And shame on you for even suggesting it.

If you don't vote, nobody has any reason to listen to your biatching.  There are only two things politicians care about: money, and votes.  Most of us don't have the kind of money it takes to buy a politician, so that leaves our votes as our only influence.  If you don't even want to exercise the small amount of influence your vote gives you, then what you're saying is that you don't want these people to listen to you, because they won't.

Why do you think Social Security and Medicare are the "third rail" of politics?  Because old people vote in record numbers every single election without fail.  They vote in presidential elections.  They vote in midterms.  They vote in primaries.  They even vote for their local school board.  And that's why they have influence that few other demographics can even come close to touching.  Meanwhile, young people get screwed over and over and over again, and it's because, whether out of disgust or apathy, on the whole, we don't vote.

So yes, if you don't vote, don't complain.  Because if you do complain, all you're doing is pissing in the wind.


Spoiler alert: you exercise influence over politicians by withholding, not giving, your vote.
2013-09-09 04:32:28 PM  
1 votes:

Riche: Biatching is my right. Biatching is my duty as an American citizen. biatching is damn near the only thing left to us voters who want real change on the national level.

So no I WILL NOT shut up.You will just have to farking deal with it. And shame on you for even suggesting it.


If you don't vote, nobody has any reason to listen to your biatching.  There are only two things politicians care about: money, and votes.  Most of us don't have the kind of money it takes to buy a politician, so that leaves our votes as our only influence.  If you don't even want to exercise the small amount of influence your vote gives you, then what you're saying is that you don't want these people to listen to you, because they won't.

Why do you think Social Security and Medicare are the "third rail" of politics?  Because old people vote in record numbers every single election without fail.  They vote in presidential elections.  They vote in midterms.  They vote in primaries.  They even vote for their local school board.  And that's why they have influence that few other demographics can even come close to touching.  Meanwhile, young people get screwed over and over and over again, and it's because, whether out of disgust or apathy, on the whole, we don't vote.

So yes, if you don't vote, don't complain.  Because if you do complain, all you're doing is pissing in the wind.
2013-09-09 04:22:28 PM  
1 votes:

danwinkler: Yes, the supreme court, which upheld nightmarish ObamaCare and kept the second amendment intact by a 5-4 margin, is far too right wing.


Not sure if serious. You mean the same Supreme Court that gave us Citizens United?
2013-09-09 03:16:37 PM  
1 votes:

Riche: BMulligan: It's been so very effective, too. It's what stopped us from going to war in Iraq, and what headed off the biggest financial disaster since the Great Depression. Now, tell me that a few hundred votes could have done as much!

I know of a few people who would beg to differ:

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And I thought I was being cynical!

/IOW, GFY.


If you think what those men did was mere "biatching," I'm afraid you and I are going to have trouble communicating.
2013-09-09 02:19:04 PM  
1 votes:

CarnySaur: I like her message, but her delivery makes her sound like a shrill harpy.


So she should, what- simper more?  Maybe coo a little?  Get bent.
2013-09-09 01:23:46 PM  
1 votes:
davidkretzmann.com


I'm pretty sure she's too "liberal" to be allowed to get the Democratic nom.

If Warren does get nominated, I will strongly suspect it will be yet another bait-and-switch where the "liberal" candidate calling out for real reforms turns into a president that might be (very) generously called center-right, if by center-right you mean things like expanding the surveillance state, not giving a rat's ass about human rights, and only pushing through a small handful half-hearted symbolic reforms while doing nothing to stop wealthy sociopaths from grabbing up ever larger percentages of the wealth of the working class.

I was fooled by Clinton and Obama.  If Warren gets on the ballot and turns out to be the same deal I may never vote again-- I'll just stay home and do something productive, like masturbate.
2013-09-09 01:13:51 PM  
1 votes:

jcooli09: Shrugging Atlas: Zombie Butler: I wont take Hillary at all, bleh another Clinton in the White house. Gods I hope not.

Yea Warren would get my vote.

So you'll vote for Warren if she's the nominee, but won't vote for Clinton if she is instead?

This.  I can't think of a likely republican candidate that I'd like over Hillary.


Yeah, that was my point.  If you're left enough to Warren to win (and I mean that as a compliment), how on Earth would you consider anyone the Republicans have as a better alternative to Clinton?

I'd prefer Warren over Clinton any day; however, the idea of voting for any potential GOP candidate or throwing my vote away on some third party is a non-starter.  Not with the possibility of multiple Supreme Court seats opening during the next two terms.
2013-09-09 12:52:51 PM  
1 votes:

enry: Warren/Franken 2016

Book it, done.  You heard it here first.


Sorry, but no. Franken came out big for COICA/SOPA/PIPA, so there's no way I could vote for any ticket including him.

/you know a bill is really good if they have to keep changing the name in a desperate effort to confuse voters.
2013-09-09 12:12:57 PM  
1 votes:

EyeballKid: jcooli09: I can't think of a likely republican candidate that I'd like over Hillary.

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Not a first pick for prez by any means, but he's one of the few Republicans who can act like a grown-up, and he's probably no more conservative than Obama is liberal. And, a Captain Beefheart fan at that! If Republicans were smart, this would be their nominee in 2016.

So, obviously it will be Rand Paul.


He was one of the first (or possibly the first) candidate to get kicked out of the primaries last time, so he's no no chance in hell unless he goes full derp.
2013-09-09 12:09:21 PM  
1 votes:

enry: Warren/Franken 2016

Book it, done.  You heard it here first.


I would vote for this ticket SO HARD. But I'm not sure the "Harvard Professor / Nerdy Jewish Comedian 2016" ticket can win an election anywhere outside of Aaron Sorkin's wet dreams.
2013-09-09 11:54:42 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not convinced she's interested in running.  But, if she is, I hope she's starting to study foreign policy.  It's going to be the obvious weakness that the GOP will attack her on.  She seems very focused on fixing some of the more damaging domestic policy issues that are hamstringing the US right now.
2013-09-09 11:26:16 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, back on the topic of SCOTUS ideological orientation, one of my favorite NY Times Infographics was one showing how the balance shifted with every appointment. It did an amazing job of pointing out how remarkable Thomas' appointment was, replacing one of the most liberal justices ever to serve on the court (T. Marshall) with one of the most conservative.

I've looked online for it several times with no success. +11,000 internets to anyone who can find this thing online.
2013-09-09 11:16:44 AM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: Zombie Butler: I wont take Hillary at all, bleh another Clinton in the White house. Gods I hope not.

Yea Warren would get my vote.

So you'll vote for Warren if she's the nominee, but won't vote for Clinton if she is instead?


Nope, wayyyyy too insider for me. If they put her up I guess I'll vote green or not vote for the presidency at all.  I just can't ethically vote for that lady. At least Obama gives inspiring speeches while stroking the backsides of power, she doesn't even inspire at all AND I think she'll  Stroke harder and faster than him.
2013-09-09 11:11:46 AM  
1 votes:
Give 'em hell Senator.
2013-09-09 11:06:17 AM  
1 votes:

AnotherBluesStringer: I'd take her over Hillary.


I wont take Hillary at all, bleh another Clinton in the White house. Gods I hope not.

Yea Warren would get my vote.
2013-09-09 11:01:38 AM  
1 votes:
Warren would be the real most liberalist presidents evar, I doubt she would have let the banks launder money for cartels while the NSA spies on americans while she beat war drums to bomb Syria... you'd hope anyway.
2013-09-09 10:59:13 AM  
1 votes:
How could any regular citizen not like Warren? I remember the first time I saw her like 6 years ago on Bill Moyers' show and thinking "someday she'd make a fine President". Hey, it could still happen.
2013-09-09 10:57:02 AM  
1 votes:
Is Elizabeth Warren the new Hillary Clinton/Nancy Pelosi?

I assume I'll be hearing about how ugly she is pretty soon.
 
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