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2013-09-09 12:15:37 PM  

hailin: Yes because that is what drug dealers do. Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars building an underground shelter to grow some pot. Yup. Genius.


Hell, they spend that much on a tunnels to smuggle it into the US, why not an underground facility?  You seem very naive.

i.telegraph.co.uk

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The cost of one of those shelters would be recouped in their very first crop.
 
2013-09-09 12:38:28 PM  

SpectroBoy: ReapTheChaos: It's nice to see the entitlement crowd is here. You wont mind if I come by your house and look through your things will you? I'm sure you have something I could use.

Good point.

That is exactly the same as sitting on a years worth of food while listening to people starve to death outside your door. No difference at all. You got me.


I'd actually call them surprisingly close to being the same, on account of the fact that they're both strawmen. Yes, people take measures to secure their food supply. This is not to repel the people starving to death outside the door; it's to repel the people trying to break in the door. Even Jesus saw, and spoke of, a need for that.
 
2013-09-09 01:08:55 PM  
I'm waiting for a headline like "Doomsday Prepper builds elaborate and expensive underground shelter, stocks it with guns, ammo and supplies for the potential end of the world. Fark: Has a heart attack, medical bills wipe out savings and the bank takes it all in a foreclosure."
 
2013-09-09 01:18:15 PM  

ReapTheChaos: [ww1.hdnux.com image 628x424]

These actually look pretty cool. I wouldn't mind putting one in my back yard, would make one hell of a man cave or even a guest house.


Just want to know where to get that sign.
 
2013-09-09 01:22:00 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Say what you want but you would do the same thing. Christian charity is all fine and good, but in an absolute survival situation those things go out the window, that's just the cold hard facts of the matter. I would never expect others to take care of me because I was to lazy to do it myself.


That's fine, if you are not a Christian.

If you claim to be a Christian this translates to :  I would rather cast my religion aside and risk an eternity in hell than share my supplies and possibly die sooner to my heavenly reward for doing the right thing.

It makes no sense. Unless you don't buy the fairy tail. Then it makes sense. Can't have it both ways. That's all I am saying.  (not necessarily talking about you)
 
2013-09-09 01:28:24 PM  

stuffy: ReapTheChaos: [ww1.hdnux.com image 628x424]

These actually look pretty cool. I wouldn't mind putting one in my back yard, would make one hell of a man cave or even a guest house.

Just want to know where to get that sign.


I'm sure any sign shop could make one pretty easily.
 
2013-09-09 01:39:45 PM  

SpectroBoy: ReapTheChaos: Say what you want but you would do the same thing. Christian charity is all fine and good, but in an absolute survival situation those things go out the window, that's just the cold hard facts of the matter. I would never expect others to take care of me because I was to lazy to do it myself.

That's fine, if you are not a Christian.

If you claim to be a Christian this translates to : I would rather cast my religion aside and risk an eternity in hell than share my supplies and possibly die sooner to my heavenly reward for doing the right thing.

It makes no sense. Unless you don't buy the fairy tail. Then it makes sense. Can't have it both ways. That's all I am saying. (not necessarily talking about you)


I don't understand what the paradox is. Where exactly are Christians forbidden to share their supplies? Where, in fact, are they not explicitly encouraged to do so, should the situation come up? Yes, you have to be careful about bandits ruining it for everybody, but this doesn't mean you do not share.
 
2013-09-09 02:11:28 PM  
Hey Smooth skins, I have 5,000 bottle caps. Do you accept those?

/Fifty seven comments and not one Fallout reference. Fark I am ashamed.
 
2013-09-09 03:10:35 PM  
GIS "underground grow op"

Like centipedes in your vagina, it's more common than you think
 
2013-09-09 05:17:15 PM  

SpectroBoy: I don't get the prepper thing. There is no time in human history where most of their plans would really be effective. I mean, sure, have extra food and meds and such. But yikes.

If the disaster is local (storm, flood, bomb, etc.) the REST of the US is going to come and help eventually (unless we keep electing the GOP bootstrap brigade).

If the disaster is SO large that the entire US is effected you measley bunker with just makers you a target for every starving person for miles around.

"Hey JimBob, that guy has a bunker full of food and I got me a back hoe!  Let's eat!"
"Ok, but first let's block the vents for a week or so just to be sure he don't start shooting at us."


That made for an awesome episode of the 1980s Twilight Zone revival when a guy hides in his bunker after a radiation attack.

He hides when he hears noises outside, trying to prevent his friend from leaving. Later, he arms himself Rambo style and prepares to conquer the nuclear mutants...

Pan to his family, boy missing his dad, where they had built a containment dome over a 3 mile island type event.
 
2013-09-09 07:41:00 PM  

SpectroBoy: If the disaster is SO large that the entire US is effected you measley bunker with just makers you a target for every starving person for miles around.

"Hey JimBob, that guy has a bunker full of food and I got me a back hoe! Let's eat!"
"Ok, but first let's block the vents for a week or so just to be sure he don't start shooting at us."


Only if you stupidly broadcast the fact far and wide. Not that you're supposed to keep it secret, precisely -hiding one's faith is a bad thing- but you don't go crowing about your stocks. That is, as you point out, just asking for trouble.
 
2013-09-10 12:22:49 PM  
I'd go halfway and just build an earth-sheltered house. You're not totally underground, but you get a lot of the benefits, and if you put in a decent basement, there's your "bomb" shelter. And the trick to get around the smart ones who think all you have to do is block up the air vents, one thought: "escape tunnel with concealed entrance".
 
2013-09-10 12:25:58 PM  

redlegrick: I'd go halfway and just build an earth-sheltered house. You're not totally underground, but you get a lot of the benefits, and if you put in a decent basement, there's your "bomb" shelter. And the trick to get around the smart ones who think all you have to do is block up the air vents, one thought: "escape tunnel with concealed entrance".


A Hobbit-hole is a suitable substitute for a batcave.
 
2013-09-10 03:58:42 PM  

Millennium: redlegrick: I'd go halfway and just build an earth-sheltered house. You're not totally underground, but you get a lot of the benefits, and if you put in a decent basement, there's your "bomb" shelter. And the trick to get around the smart ones who think all you have to do is block up the air vents, one thought: "escape tunnel with concealed entrance".

A Hobbit-hole is a suitable substitute for a batcave.


Until Sharkey comes.
 
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