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2013-09-09 02:20:30 PM

Treygreen13: mjbok: He's (usually) great in the clutch.

Well the problem with that is that we think he's great in the "clutch" because we're told to celebrate his successes and absolutely bury his failures. In 2011 he had a great streak of comeback wins, and basically every other year is just... average or below.

For example, last year:

Eli has three 4th quarter "comeback" wins.

vs. Tampa Bay: 3 TD, 3 INT
vs. Washington: 1 TD, 2 INT
vs. Dallas: 0 TD, 1 INT

But they're technically wins, so we say yay, good job Eli! Look at how clutch you are!  Then we look back at the whole season and see, oh right, he also lost 4 games "in the clutch"

vs. DAL: 17-24
vs. PHI: 17-19
vs. PIT: 20-24
vs. WAS: 16-17

And he got blanked 34-0 against the Falcons.


...but nobody talks about them. Nobody. You'd never know it unless you went back to the stats. So when he comes out it's "if you could have anyone in the 4th quarter it'd be Eli."


Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?
 
2013-09-09 02:22:39 PM

Treygreen13: Also, it's easy to forget Demarco Murray caught 8 passes, putting his personal contribution to the game at 28 plays.


Running down that 90 yds to keep that interception from turning into a Pick 6 bought Murray a lot of slack from me.
 
2013-09-09 02:25:50 PM

robsul82: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: robsul82: Slow To Return: In the DFW area, I was treated to a wonderful Saints/Falcons game,

I don't know about you, but

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I'm enjoying The Rob Ryan Era so far, lol.

I'm not much of a fan of Saints fans, Farkers excepted.  They're whole 'WHO DAT?' thing is close to being as annoying as the obsolete 'America's Team' noise.  (If the Cowboys history is indicative of the Saints future, that might eventually become as much of a burden.)  Still, I don't hate the team.

But seeing that fat fuzzy turd wallowing on the sidelines made me want the goddam wouldn't-piss-on-them-if-they-were-on-fire Falcons to win.

Ah, c'mon, it's a fun chant and considering the city he now lives in/near, Rob Ryan only has a few weeks of mobility left, so be nice, heh.


The thought of Rob Ryding a Rascal on the sideline.  YESSSSSSS!!
 
2013-09-09 02:27:31 PM

yumpizza: Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?


Trey has a huge hard-on for Eli Manning, best to just leave him be.
 
2013-09-09 02:28:38 PM

yumpizza: Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?


I don't recall the Giants winning the Super Bowl in 2012, the year I'm talking about in the post you quoted and the year Eli blew more comebacks than he won and threw for more INTs than TDs during his "comebacks".

Rings don't mean you deserve credit for everything and blame for nothing. Eli was bad "in the clutch" last year. He deserves credit for his previous successes, but they don't make you immune to criticism for your failures.
 
2013-09-09 02:28:59 PM
A moment of silence for the Steelers' 2013 season. Nothing like losing your best offensive player (injured by our guy no less) and one of your defense's leaders in the first game.

Time to go Clownshoes for Clowney. Well maybe not, he isn't really a 3-4 DE, but Clownshoes for someone.
 
2013-09-09 02:36:08 PM

Treygreen13: Khellendros: With 49 pass attempts and 23 rushes for only 87 yards, I don't think we can seriously talk about the Cowboys having a run game.

Currently Demarco Murray sits at 5th in rushing attempts, and put in the 4th most yards of all RBs to play so far.

Khellendros: They led the whole game, had a massive time of possession advantage, and they still threw more than 2x more than they ran the ball.

Well part of that was unfortunate penalties. For example, first drive:

1st and 10: Murray for 3
2nd and 7: 5 yard penalty
3rd and 12: Pass


3rd drive:
1st and 10: Murray for 11
1st and 10: Murray for 7
2nd and 3: Romo to Austin for 8 (10 yard penalty)
1st and 18: Pass for 7
2nd and 11: Incomplete pass
3rd and 11: 14 yards to Witten


Also, it's easy to forget Demarco Murray caught 8 passes, putting his personal contribution to the game at 28 plays.


That actually does put a lot into perspective.  I still think the run/pass balance for the Cowboys is WAY off of where it should be for a healthy team.  But seeing that he's 4th in rushing yards says a lot - some good and some bad.  What it tells me is that running is very weak in the NFL right now, and we're relying far too much on one guy to do it.  But I'm glad he's working as a tent pole for now.  We need it, and I hope they can balance it more and keep him healthy.

Good notes, though.
 
2013-09-09 02:36:26 PM

czetie: AnEvilGuest: Streaky McFlukey : high highs, low lows.

Yes it was. Mind you, I watched the Steelers/Titans game earlier, and by comparison Dallas/Giants was a ballet of grace and perfection.


LOL, I was thinking the same thing...
 
2013-09-09 02:38:18 PM
It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.
 
2013-09-09 02:40:02 PM

Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.


Agreed. I don't blame Eli for INT #3.
 
2013-09-09 02:40:51 PM

robsul82: Ah, c'mon, it's a fun chant and considering the city he now lives in/near, Rob Ryan only has a few weeks of mobility left, so be nice, heh.


It's a fun chant. And it's used WAY too much. Can you imagine the hell Cowboys fans would get if we AMERICAS TEAM-ed nearly as much as Saints fans WHO DAT?


yumpizza: Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?


Is that seriously all you have? Every time, we put numbers beside each other comparing EManning & Romo, some Giants fan has to show up all "NAH NAH TWO SUPER BOWLS." Dude, we know. And I don't think I should have to explain every single time how the SB wins are team accomplishments. Teams. Individuals. Different!
 
2013-09-09 02:41:41 PM

Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.


Agreed. It should count as a fumble charged to the receiver.
 
2013-09-09 02:42:53 PM
The more you think about that Tampa Bay player, the bigger a bonehead he is. There's three seconds left. Why is he shoving the Jets QB out of bounds? He should be grabbing the guy and keeping him in bounds, so the clock runs out, and the Jet don't get their last-gasp 63-yard field goal attempt. Instead he gives them a free 15 yards, and a make-able 48 yard kick.
 
2013-09-09 02:45:19 PM

Di Atribe: robsul82: Ah, c'mon, it's a fun chant and considering the city he now lives in/near, Rob Ryan only has a few weeks of mobility left, so be nice, heh.

It's a fun chant. And it's used WAY too much. Can you imagine the hell Cowboys fans would get if we AMERICAS TEAM-ed nearly as much as Saints fans WHO DAT?


yumpizza: Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?

Is that seriously all you have? Every time, we put numbers beside each other comparing EManning & Romo, some Giants fan has to show up all "NAH NAH TWO SUPER BOWLS." Dude, we know. And I don't think I should have to explain every single time how the SB wins are team accomplishments. Teams. Individuals. Different!


I wonder if Eli tried reminding Carr about his rings while he was running that game-sealing pick 6 back.
 
2013-09-09 02:45:52 PM
Oh and trey, if you get a second, could you fark-size this gif? I want to use it forever.
 
2013-09-09 02:46:30 PM

Khellendros: Treygreen13: Khellendros: With 49 pass attempts and 23 rushes for only 87 yards, I don't think we can seriously talk about the Cowboys having a run game.

Currently Demarco Murray sits at 5th in rushing attempts, and put in the 4th most yards of all RBs to play so far.

Khellendros: They led the whole game, had a massive time of possession advantage, and they still threw more than 2x more than they ran the ball.

Well part of that was unfortunate penalties. For example, first drive:

1st and 10: Murray for 3
2nd and 7: 5 yard penalty
3rd and 12: Pass


3rd drive:
1st and 10: Murray for 11
1st and 10: Murray for 7
2nd and 3: Romo to Austin for 8 (10 yard penalty)
1st and 18: Pass for 7
2nd and 11: Incomplete pass
3rd and 11: 14 yards to Witten


Also, it's easy to forget Demarco Murray caught 8 passes, putting his personal contribution to the game at 28 plays.

That actually does put a lot into perspective.  I still think the run/pass balance for the Cowboys is WAY off of where it should be for a healthy team.  But seeing that he's 4th in rushing yards says a lot - some good and some bad.  What it tells me is that running is very weak in the NFL right now, and we're relying far too much on one guy to do it.  But I'm glad he's working as a tent pole for now.  We need it, and I hope they can balance it more and keep him healthy.

Good notes, though.


Murray is a very, very, very good runner who gets hurt all the time, partially because it seems he has a knack for working EXTREMELY hard just to gain a yard and a half.
 
2013-09-09 02:46:54 PM

Di Atribe: Oh and trey, if you get a second, could you fark-size this gif? I want to use it forever.


I'm at lunch right now but when I get back I'll farkify it.
 
2013-09-09 02:47:18 PM

bingethinker: The more you think about that Tampa Bay player, the bigger a bonehead he is. There's three seconds left. Why is he shoving the Jets QB out of bounds? He should be grabbing the guy and keeping him in bounds, so the clock runs out, and the Jet don't get their last-gasp 63-yard field goal attempt. Instead he gives them a free 15 yards, and a make-able 48 yard kick.


media.avclub.com
 
2013-09-09 02:47:42 PM

Di Atribe: robsul82: Ah, c'mon, it's a fun chant and considering the city he now lives in/near, Rob Ryan only has a few weeks of mobility left, so be nice, heh.

It's a fun chant. And it's used WAY too much. Can you imagine the hell Cowboys fans would get if we AMERICAS TEAM-ed nearly as much as Saints fans WHO DAT?


i1.ytimg.com

It's our hot chant and we'll use it as much as we want!
 
2013-09-09 02:48:03 PM

Treygreen13: I wonder if Eli tried reminding Carr about his rings while he was running that game-sealing pick 6 back.


Oh do you mean this one?

i27.photobucket.com


Ohgod that face..... I can't right now.... I just can't.
 
2013-09-09 02:49:13 PM

robsul82: It's our hot chant and we'll use it as much as we want!


i27.photobucket.com

OK! lolz
 
2013-09-09 02:49:46 PM

bingethinker: The more you think about that Tampa Bay player, the bigger a bonehead he is. There's three seconds left. Why is he shoving the Jets QB out of bounds? He should be grabbing the guy and keeping him in bounds, so the clock runs out, and the Jet don't get their last-gasp 63-yard field goal attempt. Instead he gives them a free 15 yards, and a make-able 48 yard kick.


Because he doesn't have the reach/angle to catch him and pull him backwards and he barely can reach him to push him (and does so in bounds, that was a horrible call)?
 
2013-09-09 02:50:11 PM

Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.


it also kinda sucks when a QB throws a 8yd pass that the WR turns into a 24yd after the catch run, dodging 4 LBs and the QB gets a TD that isn't their doing.

for example, yesterday Brees threw a short pass that what's his name, jimmy bryant or whatever, runs to the edge and in acrobatic motion, clips the pylon.  this isn't shiattalking on Brees, this play happens all the time, but why does Brees get the "TD pass" when the dude made an incredible play entirely independently of Brees' throw?
 
2013-09-09 02:52:35 PM

rickythepenguin: for example, yesterday Brees threw a short pass that what's his name, jimmy bryant or whatever, runs to the edge and in acrobatic motion, clips the pylon. this isn't shiattalking on Brees, this play happens all the time, but why does Brees get the "TD pass" when the dude made an incredible play entirely independently of Brees' throw?


Through Breesus all things are possible.
 
2013-09-09 02:54:56 PM

rickythepenguin: Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.

it also kinda sucks when a QB throws a 8yd pass that the WR turns into a 24yd after the catch run, dodging 4 LBs and the QB gets a TD that isn't their doing.

for example, yesterday Brees threw a short pass that what's his name, jimmy bryant or whatever, runs to the edge and in acrobatic motion, clips the pylon.  this isn't shiattalking on Brees, this play happens all the time, but why does Brees get the "TD pass" when the dude made an incredible play entirely independently of Brees' throw?


YAC (yards after catch) is talked quite a bit for WR. It's not talked at all for QBs though but analysts do talk about the QB placing the ball ahead the WR to allow him to catch the ball in stride.
 
2013-09-09 02:58:09 PM

rickythepenguin: Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.

it also kinda sucks when a QB throws a 8yd pass that the WR turns into a 24yd after the catch run, dodging 4 LBs and the QB gets a TD that isn't their doing.

for example, yesterday Brees threw a short pass that what's his name, jimmy bryant or whatever, runs to the edge and in acrobatic motion, clips the pylon.  this isn't shiattalking on Brees, this play happens all the time, but why does Brees get the "TD pass" when the dude made an incredible play entirely independently of Brees' throw?


They do keep track of YAC and attempt distance. So you just gotta dig deeper for your stats.

Although a QB can improve YAC by leading his receiver properly and hitting guys with a lot of space in front of them so you just gotta watch the games.
 
2013-09-09 03:00:49 PM

ddam: It's not talked at all for QBs though but analysts do talk about the QB placing the ball ahead the WR to allow him to catch the ball in stride.


It's factored into with QBR (the newer version of the stat).
 
2013-09-09 03:13:02 PM

IAmRight: ddam: It's not talked at all for QBs though but analysts do talk about the QB placing the ball ahead the WR to allow him to catch the ball in stride.

It's factored into with QBR (the newer version of the stat).


They changed QBR? So it's slightly less meaningless?
 
2013-09-09 03:19:03 PM

ddam: YAC (yards after catch) is talked quite a bit for WR. It's not talked at all for QBs though but analysts do talk about the QB placing the ball ahead the WR to allow him to catch the ball in stride.


i get that and i know some FF leagues track YAC.  but even "in stride" doesn't account for the play dude did yesterday.  that's all i'm saying.

anquan boldin at his best was a huge YAC guy.  he was a biatch to tackle.  it wasn't always Warner hitting him in stride, it was the simple 7yd post that Boldin would turn into a 17yd gain with 4 dudes on him.  warner shouldn't get credit for a dude's heart.

anyways.
 
2013-09-09 03:19:41 PM

Treygreen13: They changed QBR? So it's slightly less meaningless?


QBR is pretty decent over a longer period of time.

The other one is passer rating. That's how I try to refer to each to avoid confusion.
 
2013-09-09 03:21:24 PM

Di Atribe: Oh and trey, if you get a second, could you fark-size this gif? I want to use it forever.


Ask and ye shall receive:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-09 03:22:40 PM

IAmRight: Treygreen13: They changed QBR? So it's slightly less meaningless?

QBR is pretty decent over a longer period of time.

The other one is passer rating. That's how I try to refer to each to avoid confusion.


I could see it being good over time - a lot of stats are. Single game QBR is extraordinarily meaningless, or at least it was in its original iteration which I can only assume was done to to prop up Tim Tebow.
 
2013-09-09 03:31:53 PM

Treygreen13: Di Atribe: Oh and trey, if you get a second, could you fark-size this gif? I want to use it forever.

Ask and ye shall receive:
[i.imgur.com image 308x257]


It's so beautiful. And the scoreboard rolling over to "TOUCHDOWN" really seals it. Thank you.
 
2013-09-09 03:36:51 PM

Di Atribe: Treygreen13: Di Atribe: Oh and trey, if you get a second, could you fark-size this gif? I want to use it forever.

Ask and ye shall receive:
[i.imgur.com image 308x257]

It's so beautiful. And the scoreboard rolling over to "TOUCHDOWN" really seals it. Thank you.


I like the guys in the back. One is clapping excitedly and the other is NOT HAVING IT.
 
2013-09-09 03:38:33 PM

rickythepenguin: Mikey1969: It kinda sucks when the QB gets dinged for an interception that isn't their fault. I mean, it just affects their stats and ratings(and their game bonuses), but if Butterfingers McGee can't bring the ball in, it shouldn't be the QB's fault.

it also kinda sucks when a QB throws a 8yd pass that the WR turns into a 24yd after the catch run, dodging 4 LBs and the QB gets a TD that isn't their doing.

for example, yesterday Brees threw a short pass that what's his name, jimmy bryant or whatever, runs to the edge and in acrobatic motion, clips the pylon.  this isn't shiattalking on Brees, this play happens all the time, but why does Brees get the "TD pass" when the dude made an incredible play entirely independently of Brees' throw?


It's still tracked for the receiver, but I totally see where you're coming from here.
 
2013-09-09 03:45:43 PM
not only did Eli perform Romo-esque, he also gets the Romo style "well he can't overcome the deficit that he created so this is clearly everyone else's fault" ESPN article

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-09 03:49:05 PM

Mikey1969: It's still tracked for the receiver, but I totally see where you're coming from here.



ehhh.  just one of those NFL things that drive me semi-bonkers.  what are you gonna do.
 
2013-09-09 03:49:36 PM

falcon176: not only did Eli perform Romo-esque, he also gets the Romo style "well he can't overcome the deficit that he created so this is clearly everyone else's fault" ESPN article

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When does Romo get that? He gets "Romo blows it what a choker" not "Romo's heroic comeback falls short."
 
2013-09-09 03:49:38 PM

Di Atribe: robsul82: Ah, c'mon, it's a fun chant and considering the city he now lives in/near, Rob Ryan only has a few weeks of mobility left, so be nice, heh.

It's a fun chant. And it's used WAY too much. Can you imagine the hell Cowboys fans would get if we AMERICAS TEAM-ed nearly as much as Saints fans WHO DAT?


yumpizza: Perhaps that's because Eli has two farkin' Super Bowl winning drives which overshadow a few regular season games?

Is that seriously all you have? Every time, we put numbers beside each other comparing EManning & Romo, some Giants fan has to show up all "NAH NAH TWO SUPER BOWLS." Dude, we know. And I don't think I should have to explain every single time how the SB wins are team accomplishments. Teams. Individuals. Different!


QB is the most important position in professional sports. Playoffs and Super Bowls are what matter. Romo is shiatty in the playoffs, Eli is great. End of story.
 
2013-09-09 03:52:39 PM

yumpizza: Romo is shiatty in the playoffs, Eli is great. End of story.


Eli is great, except when he's not, which is most of the time. But the Giants' team is better than the Cowboys' team, so he gets some titles.
 
2013-09-09 03:52:59 PM

falcon176: not only did Eli perform Romo-esque, he also gets the Romo style "well he can't overcome the deficit that he created so this is clearly everyone else's fault" ESPN article

[i.imgur.com image 223x157]


Uh, hold on. Eli performed "Romo-esque?" How so? He threw over 4900 yards in a season? Oh no, that can't be it. Hm. He holds a 2.5 % internet to TD ratio? Hm, nope, Eli's is 3.3%.

What your post is really showing people is that no matter how bad Eli farks up, ESPN will still paint him as the only good thing on that team & they lost DESPITE his heroics. And people biatch about ESPN kissing the Cowboys' asses. Like hell they do. Why aren't the Cowboys the top story? They're the ones who actually WON.
 
2013-09-09 03:54:09 PM

yumpizza: QB is the most important position in professional sports. Playoffs and Super Bowls are what matter. Romo is shiatty in the playoffs, Eli is great. End of story.


That's hardly the end of the story. Are you a homer or do you get all of your football analysis from SportsCenter?
 
2013-09-09 03:59:22 PM

Di Atribe: He holds a 2.5 % internet to TD ratio?


He doesn't win very many internets :(
 
2013-09-09 04:00:46 PM

yumpizza: QB is the most important position in professional sports. Playoffs and Super Bowls are what matter. Romo is shiatty in the playoffs, Eli is great. End of story.


Except when he isn't great, right? Like the 3 playoff games he blew spectacularly? Like in 2009 when he threw 2 INTs in a playoff loss to the Eagles, his 2nd playoff game where he failed to record a TD and had multiple INTs?
 
2013-09-09 04:02:37 PM

Di Atribe: falcon176: not only did Eli perform Romo-esque, he also gets the Romo style "well he can't overcome the deficit that he created so this is clearly everyone else's fault" ESPN article

[i.imgur.com image 223x157]

Uh, hold on. Eli performed "Romo-esque?" How so? He threw over 4900 yards in a season? Oh no, that can't be it. Hm. He holds a 2.5 % internet to TD ratio? Hm, nope, Eli's is 3.3%.

What your post is really showing people is that no matter how bad Eli farks up, ESPN will still paint him as the only good thing on that team & they lost DESPITE his heroics. And people biatch about ESPN kissing the Cowboys' asses. Like hell they do. Why aren't the Cowboys the top story? They're the ones who actually WON.


When a QB puts a team on his back and wills them to a Super Bowl like he did in 2011, then yes Eli has proven to carry a team. As for ratios, let's try playoffs winning percentage instead.

Also:

Season Passing Record:

8Eli ManningNew York Giants4,93320119* Tony RomoDallas Cowboys4,9032012
 
2013-09-09 04:03:09 PM

IAmRight: Di Atribe: He holds a 2.5 % internet to TD ratio?

He doesn't win very many internets :(


LOL..... oops.... INTERCEPTION to TD ratio dammit you guys.
 
2013-09-09 04:03:33 PM
Let me clear that up:

8. Eli Manning New York Giants: 4,933

9 Tony RomoDallas Cowboys 4,903
 
2013-09-09 04:05:54 PM

yumpizza: When a QB puts a team on his back and wills them to a Super Bowl like he did in 2011, then yes Eli has proven to carry a team. As for ratios, let's try playoffs winning percentage instead.


WONK WONK ALL THAT MATTERS ARE PLAYOFFS NOTHING ELSE WONK WONK

So a homer, I guess. For every 3 stats, you bring me one.

Here, found another gif for you.
 
2013-09-09 04:08:08 PM
Dammit. It says it couldn't thumbnail the image so now it won't work. Pfft.
 
2013-09-09 04:08:09 PM
Fun fact:

Tony Romo and Eli Manning (and their respective teams) have each made the playoffs ONCE in the past four years. Neither are elite.
 
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