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(NFL)   Eli Manning threw the game winning touchdown pass in this game. It just wasn't to his team, is all   (nfl.com) divider line 232
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2013-09-09 10:19:04 AM
Streaky McFlukey : high highs, low lows.
 
2013-09-09 10:20:19 AM
That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.
 
2013-09-09 10:25:02 AM

RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.


the blown coverage on the 1st half Cruz TD was a big part of that. they were doing a good job on the Giants until then
 
2013-09-09 10:31:41 AM
Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.
 
2013-09-09 10:34:47 AM

RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.


That was garbage time.  The game wasn't as close as you think it was.
 
2013-09-09 10:36:12 AM
Dallas won, but exposed their running back and secondary weaknesses.  At least 1/2 of those turnovers were unforced flukes that just happened to bounce the Cowboy's way last night.  I know in the NFL it goes down as an in-conference win but there's plenty to worry the Cowboy faithful given barely hanging on after 6 turnovers.  Week 1 there was some very sloppy play all over the league.  It almost looked like a Week 2 preseason week for a bunch of teams.
 
2013-09-09 10:40:55 AM

Kornchex: RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.

That was garbage time.  The game wasn't as close as you think it was.


How can you say it was garbage time when the Giants had the ball for the game-winning drive before that fortunate bounce?  The last TD for the Giants was the only real possible garbage-time score and the onside kick almost worked so even that is in question.
 
2013-09-09 10:42:10 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.


I basically watched last night's game with this little voice in my head going "why couldn't the Giants play this careless against us??" over and over again.
 
2013-09-09 10:43:35 AM

revman64: Kornchex: RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.

That was garbage time.  The game wasn't as close as you think it was.

How can you say it was garbage time when the Giants had the ball for the game-winning drive before that fortunate bounce?  The last TD for the Giants was the only real possible garbage-time score and the onside kick almost worked so even that is in question.


It's a double reverse Cris Collinsworth (Mr. "2 more scores and they're right back in this thing")
 
2013-09-09 10:43:43 AM

Kornchex: RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.

That was garbage time.  The game wasn't as close as you think it was.


When one team has the ball at midfield with 2 minutes left trailing by 6 points, it is an extremely close game.  Suggesting otherwise is, in a word, dumb.
 
2013-09-09 10:44:01 AM

AnEvilGuest: RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.

the blown coverage on the 1st half Cruz TD was a big part of that. they were doing a good job on the Giants until then


Yeah, the Dallas defense had been doing a great job until that play.  However, by that point, the Dallas offense had taken the 2 interceptions and the fumble and turned them into 3 points.  Not good.
 
2013-09-09 10:46:56 AM
To be fair, if you get paid to catch balls for a living and a quarterback throws a pass to you which hits you in your hands and which you then subsequently flop into the (much more competent) hands of the other team, the interception and ensuing pick six really isn't the quarterback's fault.  Its yours.
 
2013-09-09 10:49:44 AM
Just an awful game by the Gints.  I wouldn't be too happy as a Dallas fan, though.  That many turnovers?  Game should have been over by the 4th quarter, if not earlier.
 
2013-09-09 10:50:03 AM

Prevailing Wind: To be fair, if you get paid to catch balls for a living and a quarterback throws a pass to you which hits you in your hands and which you then subsequently flop into the (much more competent) hands of the other team, the interception and ensuing pick six really isn't the quarterback's fault.  Its yours.


Hey mr. Rodgers.
 
2013-09-09 10:50:32 AM

Killer Cars: Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.

I basically watched last night's game with this little voice in my head going "why couldn't the Giants play this careless against us??" over and over again.


Well, it wasn't for lack of effort.  If you recall, in 42 the Pats got a deflected INT while the Giants were in the red zone, plus the infamous Asante Samuel non INT.

And if memory serves, Ahmad Bradshaw put the ball on the ground in both Super Bowls, but the Giants recovered both.
 
2013-09-09 10:50:44 AM
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2013-09-09 10:52:04 AM
I'm a big Dallas fan, but thought we'd get blown out in this game.  We're starting two or three guys as starters on the lines that were out of football last year, huge injury problems, coming back from an off season where we made offensive play calling changes, and changing our entire defensive scheme to 4-3 (and not picking up the talent to actually make the change effectively).  If someone predicted a 20 point loss, it wouldn't have surprised me.

But it seems the Giants had their own problems.  Didn't realize they came in so damaged.  Even with that, it looked like two very bad teams failing at each other.  Three turnovers in the first quarter, and only 3 points from them?  Dallas wins, but gives up over 500 yard of offense?  We lead the entire game, but throw the ball 49 times?

This does bode well as as start for either team.  Dallas gets six turnovers (+5 on the day), but still fighting late in the fourth quarter to hold onto a lead at home, and the Giants were moving the ball at will.  Their defense tired badly in a game with very unbalanced time of possession (a full 15 minutes favoring Dallas).  All very, very bad indicators.

But they did get the win.
 
2013-09-09 10:52:35 AM
Trying to decide if it makes sense to pick up Dallas' defense for next week.  All the top defenses are taken in my league so I'm just going to drop and add based on who plays the Jets or Jaguars and the like.  Obviously 20+ points from a defense aren't sustainable but hopefully they get at least a few turnovers a week.
 
2013-09-09 10:56:27 AM

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Stupid joke is stupid.

I mean, at least Eli wins Superbowls. To Cowboy's fans of this generation, the "playoffs" are a mythical creature (like the unicorn and the chupacabra), much less this "Superbowl" thing people keep blabbering on about.
 
2013-09-09 10:57:43 AM

Khellendros: I'm a big Dallas fan, but thought we'd get blown out in this game.  We're starting two or three guys as starters on the lines that were out of football last year, huge injury problems, coming back from an off season where we made offensive play calling changes, and changing our entire defensive scheme to 4-3 (and not picking up the talent to actually make the change effectively).  If someone predicted a 20 point loss, it wouldn't have surprised me.

But it seems the Giants had their own problems.  Didn't realize they came in so damaged.  Even with that, it looked like two very bad teams failing at each other.  Three turnovers in the first quarter, and only 3 points from them?  Dallas wins, but gives up over 500 yard of offense?  We lead the entire game, but throw the ball 49 times?

This does bode well as as start for either team.  Dallas gets six turnovers (+5 on the day), but still fighting late in the fourth quarter to hold onto a lead at home, and the Giants were moving the ball at will.  Their defense tired badly in a game with very unbalanced time of possession (a full 15 minutes favoring Dallas).  All very, very bad indicators.

But they did get the win.


Here in Minnesota we call that "Out Lioning the Lions". Feel free to adjust as needed for your division.
 
2013-09-09 10:58:39 AM
Cowboys saved what was a dreadful sports weekend for me...Ranger can't hit their way out of a paper bag and someone stole the Longhorn defense and replaced them with the Tarrant County College Flag badmitton team.
 
2013-09-09 11:00:19 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: Primitive Screwhead: [img.fark.net image 720x536]

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Stupid joke is stupid.

I mean, at least Eli's team wins Superbowls. To Cowboy's fans of this generation, the "playoffs" are a mythical creature (like the unicorn and the chupacabra), much less this "Superbowl" thing people keep blabbering on about.


FTFY

QBs don't win games. Teams do.
 
2013-09-09 11:10:50 AM
It was more of a pass from the RB to the Cowboys, seeing as he didn't turn around in time and volleyballed it over to the defense while flailing for it.

/Giants fan
//Both teams look pretty bad
 
2013-09-09 11:12:12 AM

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Seriously, what the fark does this even mean? It doesn't make any sense.

And also, I'm seeing a lot of "Yeah, without those 6 turnovers, the Cowboys don't win the game" bullshiat this morning. Uh.... well, yeah. And without those 4 touchdowns, the Cowboys don't win the game, either.


Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.


^^^ This is the correct thing to say. ^^^ They were close and for a goddamn change for once in their lives, the Dallas defense stepped up. And I was just as surprised as anyone.
 
2013-09-09 11:13:37 AM
Last few years, if the Cowboys were up against a team by 2 scores in the 4th quarter they would most likely lose. Thus, this win is not as bad as some people make it seem. The Giants front four are till in the top 3 in the leauge and they shut down the running game of the Cowboys early in the game.

And as I've said previously, in football today you cannot stop the hurry up offense. The Giants' only way to stop it was to fake injuries and the Cowboys weren't even smart enough to try that. Even if you don't run it for a whole game, it is the best weapon an offense has in today's game where half the people getting paid a ton of money are either on the injury list or on the bench getting looked over.
 
2013-09-09 11:14:57 AM

redmid17: Jim from Saint Paul: Primitive Screwhead: [img.fark.net image 720x536]

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Stupid joke is stupid.

I mean, at least Eli's team wins Superbowls. To Cowboy's fans of this generation, the "playoffs" are a mythical creature (like the unicorn and the chupacabra), much less this "Superbowl" thing people keep blabbering on about.

FTFY

QBs don't win games. Teams do.


The joke was comparing Eli Manning to Tony Romo. Debating the value of a QB Vs The-rest-of-the-team, is irrelevant. Comparing a guy who has won 2 SB's (against Darth Vader and Co even) to a guy with one playoff win is inaccurate enough that the joke is dumb.
 
2013-09-09 11:19:23 AM
I like the turnover stat about Eli they brought up during the game.
 
2013-09-09 11:21:21 AM
In other news, buffalo channeled their inner buffalo yesterday
 
2013-09-09 11:26:23 AM
Giants RB situation is really pretty drastic.  And their 2ndary as well.  I had Dallas at 9-7 this year.  Revising to 10-6 after seeing how bad off NY is.  Tonights other matchup Skins/Piggles could revise that prognotication further.  I fear for his health as a fellow human being, but RGIII is gonna get broken again this year, and as a Redskin who works for Dan Snyder, this makes me happy.

Eagles need a better QB, period.  I am not up to date on what their other ills are right now.

NFCEast won't be the strongest conf, that is for sure.  Just grateful we're not in the West with SF and the Waterbirds....that is gonna be bloody.
 
2013-09-09 11:30:30 AM
Both of these teams are terrible.
 
2013-09-09 11:34:12 AM
There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?
 
2013-09-09 11:34:17 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Giants RB situation is really pretty drastic.


ESPN says they're going to work out street FAs Brandon Jacobs and Willis McGahee.  Yeah, because when every team in the NFL has spent March - August evaluating talent and no one picked these guys up, yet they appear to be the best option....rrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggght.


Lt. Cheese Weasel: Revising to 10-6 after seeing how bad off NY is.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b--b-b-b-but whomever comes out of the NFC East will be battle tested and thus, will coast through the playoffs!

signed,
things dumb people were saying just a week ago
 
2013-09-09 11:36:02 AM

AnEvilGuest: Streaky McFlukey : high highs, low lows.


Yes it was. Mind you, I watched the Steelers/Titans game earlier, and by comparison Dallas/Giants was a ballet of grace and perfection.
 
2013-09-09 11:36:52 AM

rickythepenguin: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b--b-b-b-but whomever comes out of the NFC East will be battle tested and thus, will coast through the playoffs!


I like the revised prediction.  If only every Cowboys opponent turns it over 6 times, they'll be 16-0.
 
2013-09-09 11:39:57 AM

Farnn: Trying to decide if it makes sense to pick up Dallas' defense for next week.  All the top defenses are taken in my league so I'm just going to drop and add based on who plays the Jets or Jaguars and the like.  Obviously 20+ points from a defense aren't sustainable but hopefully they get at least a few turnovers a week.


Bucc's sucked this week so it won't always pan out.  Also I would add the Browns to the list of fail teams
 
2013-09-09 11:40:54 AM

Slow To Return: There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?


Because everyone saw this game.
 
2013-09-09 11:42:37 AM

czetie: AnEvilGuest: Streaky McFlukey : high highs, low lows.

Yes it was. Mind you, I watched the Steelers/Titans game earlier, and by comparison Dallas/Giants was a ballet of grace and perfection.


You know that thing where Fark quotes something completely different from what you thought you were quoting? And you don't notice in the preview? Yeah. That.
 
2013-09-09 11:43:09 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.


Yea, cuz that was totally guaranteed, if not for that turnover.
 
2013-09-09 11:43:16 AM

Slow To Return: There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?

thumbs.newschoolers.com
 
2013-09-09 11:43:21 AM
Still ended with more fantasy points than either Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford (in my league, anyway).
 
2013-09-09 11:44:58 AM

Kornchex: RickN99: That was an ugly game.  Dallas is happy with a win, but given that the Giants turned it over 6 times, it should have been a blowout.  Even with the massive assistance from the Giants offense, Dallas barely held on.

That was garbage time.  The game wasn't as close as you think it was.


Considering the Giants were driving to make the deficit less than a TD before that 3rd pick, yes, yes it was.

All things considered, the Giants should've lost by 4 TDs; the Cowboys' Offense was as efficient as the Jets Offense.
 
2013-09-09 11:45:08 AM

Slow To Return: There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?


there's this revolutionary thing called "Sunday Night Football", where the premise is they take marquee teams and televise that one game nationwide in prime time, and check this out, it is the only game on at the time.  You should check it out sometime.  It can be kinda cool.
 
2013-09-09 11:46:39 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.


Just ask the Gators
 
2013-09-09 11:49:13 AM

asmodeus224: Yanks_RSJ: Five turnovers and they were at midfield on their way to the winning TD, the 6th slammed the door.  Can't win when you're that careless with the ball all night long.

Yea, cuz that was totally guaranteed, if not for that turnover.


I considered it highly likely, based on the game's momentum and several recent examples of Eli Manning rallying the Giants despite a shiatty game to win on the last drive.  It's happened quite a few times, especially in Dallas.
 
2013-09-09 11:50:02 AM

thecpt: Slow To Return: There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?

Because everyone saw this game.


Not people in Milwaukee. NBC and TWC are having a lover's quarrel over how to split up our money here - so no NBC football for us (missed the opener, and Sunday night game). Jackasses.
 
2013-09-09 11:53:58 AM
I will never tire of Manning's "awww c'mon guys, really?" grade school disappointed face.

big gif here:
http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ELI-MANNIN G- INTERCEPTIONFACE.gif
 
2013-09-09 11:54:35 AM

Tiberius Gracchus: thecpt: Slow To Return: There were 12 other games played in the NFL yesterday ... why isn't there a thread for each one of them also?

Because everyone saw this game.

Not people in Milwaukee. NBC and TWC are having a lover's quarrel over how to split up our money here - so no NBC football for us (missed the opener, and Sunday night game). Jackasses.


Can we forget about the galgamecs?
 
2013-09-09 12:04:28 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Giants RB situation is really pretty drastic.  And their 2ndary as well.  I had Dallas at 9-7 this year.  Revising to 10-6 after seeing how bad off NY is.  Tonights other matchup Skins/Piggles could revise that prognotication further.  I fear for his health as a fellow human being, but RGIII is gonna get broken again this year, and as a Redskin who works for Dan Snyder, this makes me happy.

Eagles need a better QB, period.  I am not up to date on what their other ills are right now.

NFCEast won't be the strongest conf, that is for sure.  Just grateful we're not in the West with SF and the Waterbirds....that is gonna be bloody.


Eagles switched to a 3-4 and don't have the personnel to run it. They will get run all over without a run stuffing nose tackle. Time of possession will rapidly get out of hand and the defense will get more and more gassed later in games, meaning the entire defense will be torn apart.

Receivers are also a question, Desean Jackson is the only playmaker on the outside, and isn't a 100 catch type. If Avant can emerge as an actual threat on the outside instead of just the good hands guy he is now, it'll help, but it's unlikely.
 
2013-09-09 12:05:13 PM

cheezitmojo: Still ended with more fantasy points than either Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford (in my league, anyway).


Heck in one of the Fark leagues Eli battered Romo by almost 100%
 
2013-09-09 12:06:02 PM

jimmythefly: I will never tire of Manning's "awww c'mon guys, really?" grade school disappointed face.

big gif here:
http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ELI-MANNIN G- INTERCEPTIONFACE.gif


That is perfect. I really enjoy that gif.

Not as much as I enjoyed the broadcasters slobbering all over Eli's comeback skills and then sitting quietly during his ensuing pick-6.
 
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