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2013-09-09 09:08:52 AM  
As a cards fan, I gotta say that the pirates have been giving us a hell of a race this year... They ain't got nothin to be ashamed of.
 
2013-09-09 09:20:08 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: As a cards fan, I gotta say that the pirates have been giving us a hell of a race this year... They ain't got nothin to be ashamed of.


I'm not greedy; I just want the .501 season. The playoffs would be gravy at this point.

/Although, given the way the Steelers played yesterday, we may need the Pirates to step up their game a bit.
 
2013-09-09 09:25:47 AM  
When does hockey season start?
 
2013-09-09 09:32:46 AM  
Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.
 
2013-09-09 09:41:55 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Darth_Lukecash: As a cards fan, I gotta say that the pirates have been giving us a hell of a race this year... They ain't got nothin to be ashamed of.

I'm not greedy; I just want the .501 season. The playoffs would be gravy at this point.

/Although, given the way the Steelers played yesterday, we may need the Pirates to step up their game a bit.


This.  And that.
 
2013-09-09 09:42:04 AM  

Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.


Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.
 
2013-09-09 09:42:38 AM  

Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.


If that were true, Boston would never win another championship
 
2013-09-09 09:59:49 AM  

Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.



p>Please explain.
 
2013-09-09 10:07:42 AM  

WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.


I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a dick, prolly shouldn't advertise where you're from
 
2013-09-09 10:08:40 AM  

Lost Thought 00: When does hockey season start?


I'm going to a pre-season game this Saturday.
 
2013-09-09 10:20:28 AM  
"I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh."

Then you're an idiot for hating an entire city for the actions of this one family of assholes and you're a pussy for not saying anything.
 
2013-09-09 10:21:09 AM  

grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a di ...


So you base your opinion of an entire city on what you saw two idiot parents do?  You must hate traveling, then.

/Pirates' fan,  Penguins' fan,Titans' fan and UTK fan
//No, I wouldn't let my kid do that in a restaurant
///There are a**holes in everyone fandom
 
2013-09-09 10:22:10 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: As a cards fan, I gotta say that the pirates have been giving us a hell of a race this year... They ain't got nothin to be ashamed of.


Fully agree (another Cards fan here).

The Pirates got the better of the Cardinals this year (as TFA points out, they won 10 of those and lost 9), and even the Cards have had some stretches where they played some really farkin' horrible baseball (for more than one series, even). The Pirates may only be 1.5 games out of 1st right now, but I hardly expect to see them lay down and die. I'd say an over .500 series is a certainty for them right now- they need to win only one game to make that happen and there's twenty left for them... no way in hell are they going to lose them all.

Right now it looks like the NL Central is going to play host to three teams each winning over 90 games this year; that's some stiff competition. The Cards, Pirates, and Reds are together tougher competition than you find in any of the other divisions in baseball. They're all good teams and barring some massive meltdown by any of them they'll all be playing at least one more game in the postseason.
 
2013-09-09 10:23:02 AM  

Kurmudgeon: "I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh."

Then you're an idiot for hating an entire city for the actions of this one family of assholes and you're a pussy for not saying anything.


Seriously, there are dozens of reasons to hate Pittsburgh and its bandwagon fans. Getting prissy over some yinzers who suck at parenting is not one of them.
 
2013-09-09 10:26:05 AM  
Seriously, how can you hate Pirates fans, there are like 100 of them.

It's Steeler fans that are the jerkoffs worthy of scorn, because they're obnoxious and they're everywhere.
 
2013-09-09 10:32:37 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I'm not greedy; I just want the .501 season. The playoffs would be gravy at this point.


Way to set the bar high pittsburgh
 
2013-09-09 10:58:12 AM  

grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a dick, prolly shouldn't advertise where you're from


Um, so yeah.. this scene coulda been filmed at just about any park in any part of the country where ducks or pigeons are present.
 
2013-09-09 11:03:44 AM  

ladodger34: grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a dick, prolly shouldn't advertise where you're from

Um, so yeah.. this scene coulda been filmed at just about any park in any part of the country where ducks or pigeons are present.


Shoulda read your full post and put restuarant rather than park. Some parents are brain dead morans and think that crap is cute. Ruining other people's dinner is not cute.
 
2013-09-09 11:11:33 AM  

steamingpile: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I'm not greedy; I just want the .501 season. The playoffs would be gravy at this point.

Way to set the bar high pittsburgh




Considering the last two seasons it's best not to set it to high.
Still coming from a fan who might having a winning season and is pleased
 
2013-09-09 11:12:06 AM  
The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).
 
2013-09-09 11:15:19 AM  

Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).




I know. It's like Pittsburg was in town or something.
 
2013-09-09 11:21:33 AM  

Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).


In the two times I've been in the Pittsburgh suburbs, my observations were that this is considered acceptable attire for a dining out or a night out on the town.
 
2013-09-09 11:38:37 AM  

poughdrew: Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).

In the two times I've been in the Pittsburgh suburbs, my observations were that this is considered acceptable attire for a dining out or a night out on the town.


And you would be correct. Which explains why not one but two gentleman were sporting this fine number when I went to the Pittsburgh ballet.
images.footballfanatics.com


/Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.
 
2013-09-09 11:39:34 AM  

poughdrew: Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).

In the two times I've been in the Pittsburgh suburbs, my observations were that this is considered acceptable attire for a dining out or a night out on the town.


Of course, you save your *good* Roberto Clemente replica jersey for formal occasions, like your own wedding.

/Pirates fan
//not from there, but lived there for five years
///can translate from Pittsburghese to English.
 
2013-09-09 11:48:53 AM  

BGFatts: /Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.


Unless you were on the team you should be beaten for wearing that jacket
 
2013-09-09 12:06:57 PM  

steamingpile: BGFatts: /Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.

Unless you were on the team you should be beaten for wearing that jacket


It could be worse....
i.ebayimg.com
 
2013-09-09 12:48:43 PM  

grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a di ...


Your choice:

1. CSB
2. TL;DR
 
2013-09-09 01:08:00 PM  

WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.


Everything is bigger in Texas, so Dallas wins that contest.
 
2013-09-09 01:44:18 PM  
I think the Baseball Gods have cursed them because of Barry Bonds.
 
2013-09-09 01:45:35 PM  

BGFatts: poughdrew: Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).

In the two times I've been in the Pittsburgh suburbs, my observations were that this is considered acceptable attire for a dining out or a night out on the town.

And you would be correct. Which explains why not one but two gentleman were sporting this fine number when I went to the Pittsburgh ballet.
[images.footballfanatics.com image 400x400]


/Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.



You nailed it utterly and completely.  +1000
 
2013-09-09 02:07:09 PM  

BGFatts: And you would be correct. Which explains why not one but two gentleman were sporting this fine number when I went to the Pittsburgh ballet.
images.footballfanatics.com


/Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.


I tell this story all the time: when Mayor Bob O'Connor died he was laid to rest not too far from my house, so the wife & I decided to meet the motorcade at the entrance to the cemetery along with several dozen of my neighbors who had had a similar idea. Anyway, while waiting for the hearse to arrive came up wearing his Pittsburgh Tuxedo (a Steelers Jersey) and carrying a big ol' American flag. I turned to my wife and said, "You know, there's a hundred normal folks standing around respectfully attired, but I'll bet you that the local news crew interviews that guy." Sure enough, on the 6 PM news, I see Patriotic Yinzer on my TV.
 
2013-09-09 02:11:25 PM  

steamingpile: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I'm not greedy; I just want the .501 season. The playoffs would be gravy at this point.

Way to set the bar high pittsburgh


We've been down so long that it looks like up to us.

But seriously, all we really want is a *competitive* team, not a laughingstock.
 
2013-09-09 03:52:52 PM  

bborchar: grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.


I bet they weren't even from Pittsburgh, either.  I call tourists from Youngstown or Harrisburg.

/Meanwhile, you painted those 12 tables as bad because of the one probably out-of-town douchebag family. They were more likely to be from Pittsburgh.
 
2013-09-09 03:58:13 PM  

bborchar: So you base your opinion of an entire city on what you saw two idiot parents do?  You must hate traveling, then.


Not to mention basing an opinion of a sports team's fans on the ones you actually hear or see online is probably the dumbest thing ever.  Just because they all want to call into the local sports station and scream like baboons doesn't mean actual fans are like that, just the annoying ones.  And every last team has annoying fans, because stupid people are EVERYWHERE.
 
2013-09-09 04:41:41 PM  

bborchar: BGFatts: poughdrew: Robert1966: The first sign that they were douchebags isn't that they wore Pirates gear; it was that they all wore sports shirts and hats together (and weren't at a game).

In the two times I've been in the Pittsburgh suburbs, my observations were that this is considered acceptable attire for a dining out or a night out on the town.

And you would be correct. Which explains why not one but two gentleman were sporting this fine number when I went to the Pittsburgh ballet.
[images.footballfanatics.com image 400x400]


/Deb, get out my classy Stillers jacket, we're heading dahntahn to the Benedum. Might even stop at the Spaghetti Warehouse first.


You nailed it utterly and completely.  +1000


Yep.

One of the first things I noticed was the abundance of sports jerseys and totally inappropriate places and that cars/trucks/vans being painted black and gold with "STEELERS" down the side isn't considered tacky.
 
2013-09-09 05:35:57 PM  
No no, we are NOT falling apart now. Hope things look up in Texas and I am still optimistic we can at least make the playoffs.
 
2013-09-09 05:46:08 PM  

Thingster: One of the first things I noticed was the abundance of sports jerseys and totally inappropriate places and that cars/trucks/vans being painted black and gold with "STEELERS" down the side isn't considered tacky.


Have you meet Redskins fans?  Driving down to DC during gameday you are bound to see at least one beat up old truck from the 80s rusted halfway through painted burgundy and gold (aka yellow), the only thing that is maintenanced is the Native American head logo on the front of the vehicle and the newly purchased Flags streaming from the window of the car.
 
2013-09-10 07:39:05 AM  
it has been a bad weekend in the Burgh, glad I was at Lockn' instead.
 
2013-09-10 05:41:03 PM  

grinding_journalist: WhackingDay: Outrageous Muff: Pittsburgh has proven through its overwhelming douchebaggery that it is not allowed to win anymore championships.

Pittsburgh has more overwhelming douchebaggery than NYC, Boston, or Dallas?

I think not.

I was at the Boathouse in Forest Park yesterday with my wife and child for a nice, early Sunday dinner. The boathouse was pretty empty, with maybe a dozen tables full, people quietly eating/chatting/drinking. A family of 3 arrives, wearing Pirates gear- t-shirts and hats, not full-on jerseys and the like. Two parents and a girl of about 6. The boat house sits on one of the small bodies of water in Forest Park, and the tables are set right on the water's edge, so you frequently get ducks, turtles, swans, and other pond wildlife straying near your table, curious about what you're eating. They aren't aggressive and don't bother anyone. The Pitt parents, while waiting for the host, point out the ducks roaming the dining area to small child, and she asks "Can I go pet them?" The parents chuckle and say something like "If you can catch them, sure." The child then proceeds to run screaming through the dining area, chasing all of the pond wildlife back into the water in a hurry. She makes a point of stopping at every table, stomping on the ground while yelling, and then grins at the somewhat stunned diners sitting there before moving on. Needless to say, this pissed off just about everyone who was there. The parents, of course, think this is adorable, and start trying to take pictures/video of this "hilarious" activity on their phones.  After the ducks had been chased away and the child finished her rampage and the dad stopped laughing, he looked out over the dining area, smiled at all of the glares he was receiving, gave a "Kids, right?" shrug, and walked away with wife and child in tow.

I will now have these inconsiderate jackholes in mind whenever anyone mentions Pittsburgh.

/I know parents can be assholes anywhere
//if you wanna be a di ...


Same thing happened to me when I went to Pakistan - all these little kids screaming and begging for money, punching each other in the face while fighting over a few coins on the ground.

A lot of them had on Patriot XLVI Super Bowl Champion hats and others were wearing Super Bowl XLII tee shirts with UNDEFEATED! on the back.

This is why I can't stand people from Boston - for one thing they don't feed their kids and secondly bathing seems as if it must be optional up there.
 
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