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(Fox Soccer)   With their opposition shooting at an empty net in a tie game, it seemed as if a Brazilian team would not get their playoff berth. That was, until a staff member jumped in front and blocked two attempts to score. Successfully   (blog.foxsoccer.com) divider line 53
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2013-09-08 10:28:10 PM
It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....
 
2013-09-08 10:35:51 PM
I'm sure it's safe to say someone will be killed for this.
 
2013-09-08 10:55:16 PM

Mrbogey: I'm sure it's safe to say someone will be killed for this.


Will be? I doubt he made it out of the stadium.
 
2013-09-09 01:48:04 AM

marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....


It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.
 
2013-09-09 02:10:01 AM
Hey, listen man, it isn't in the rules that some dude can't jump out from the crowd and smash a folding chair across the back of the guy with the ball. You can check man, but I'm telling ya', it's not in the rules.
 
2013-09-09 03:11:09 AM
That was all sorts of awesome.

And yes, I agree with Mrbogey, heads will roll, literally.
 
2013-09-09 03:11:45 AM

Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.


Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.
 
2013-09-09 03:14:49 AM
BAH GAWD KING! DAMN THAT STAFF MEMBER!! DAMN THAT STAFF MEMBER TO HELL!
 
2013-09-09 03:18:38 AM

HotWingAgenda: Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.

Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.



Ya but this is more like not counting two home runs because a fan in the upper deck listened to the "throw it back" chants. Since the ball returned into the field it clearly isn't a home run!What did they rule the time that coach tackled a player who was running down the open sideline? I forget what team it was...
 
2013-09-09 04:00:00 AM
Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?

There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of? And people are not only proud of it, they gloat in the other side's faces. How can you say you're better when you broke the rules to win? It's nothing to celebrate.

I'm not denying that this behavior never exists in North American sports, but it's certainly frowned upon. Hell, we invented the concept of the "asterisk" to denote when certain records or victories are not equal to other legitimate ones.... so we have absolutely zero tolerance for anything gained at the expense of fair play.

Hell, I don't even like it when my team wins because the other team's star player is hurt. We didn't face them at their best, so it's not much of a win to be proud of.
 
2013-09-09 04:24:37 AM

Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?


Not only is this issue not limited to "foreign" sports, some of those foreign sports have safeguards in play to make sure that this can't happen. In rugby, for instance, a penalty-try can be awarded for exactly the sort of infraction that happened in this soccer match.
 
2013-09-09 04:25:48 AM
It's a cultural thing, Ishkur. For some nations, such as the United States and United Kingdom, that is completely out of bounds. For others- South America and southern Europe, for instance, and a lot of sub-Saharan Africa from my observation- subterfuge of all kinds, such as diving, is just part of the game, and it's basically not cheating unless you get caught.

For more on these cultural differences, look up the 1967 Intercontinental Cup between Celtic (Scotland) and Racing Club (Argentina).
 
2013-09-09 05:08:03 AM

marius2: Mrbogey: I'm sure it's safe to say someone will be killed for this.

Will be? I doubt he made it out of the stadium.


I know they take their football serious as hell in the rest of the world, but my jaw hit the ground when I spied two guys in what looked a lot like military fatigues blocking the Brazilian team from massacring the masseur when he fled the field...

/guy's probably already looking for asylum in some foreign country if he knows what's good for his health
 
2013-09-09 06:11:31 AM
Not for nothing, but that was a nice double save! And he didn't even use his hands.
 
2013-09-09 06:25:20 AM

Iczer: marius2: Mrbogey: I'm sure it's safe to say someone will be killed for this.

Will be? I doubt he made it out of the stadium.

I know they take their football serious as hell in the rest of the world, but my jaw hit the ground when I spied two guys in what looked a lot like military fatigues blocking the Brazilian team from massacring the masseur when he fled the field...

/guy's probably already looking for asylum in some foreign country if he knows what's good for his health


That's the police...
 
2013-09-09 07:00:17 AM

Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?


I think they consider it a little different when an overzealous staffer cheats on their behalf, as opposed to the team actually cheating.  It's kind of like the ref making a bad call.  Just part of the game.
 
2013-09-09 07:13:30 AM

HotWingAgenda: Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.

Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier

It's one of the reasons I stopped watching baseball.

/steroids
//Peter Angelos
 
2013-09-09 07:20:04 AM

foo monkey: HotWingAgenda: Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.

Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier

It's one of the reasons I stopped watching baseball.

/steroids
//Peter Angelos


Jeffrey Farking Meier.  I know the Yankees were on their way to the run they went on anyway, but I still hate that dipshiat.  Apparently he's got a desk job up in Manchester, NH; hope I never run into him.  I don't want to go to jail, but I'll have to when I'm done with him.
 
2013-09-09 07:37:31 AM

Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?

There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of? And people are not only proud of it, they gloat in the other side's faces. How can you say you're better when you broke the rules to win? It's nothing to celebrate.

I'm not denying that this behavior never exists in North American sports, but it's certainly frowned upon. Hell, we invented the concept of the "asterisk" to denote when certain records or victories are not equal to other legitimate ones.... so we have absolutely zero tolerance for anything gained at the expense of fair play.

Hell, I don't even like it when my team wins because the other team's star player is hurt. We didn't face them at their best, so it's not much of a win to be proud of.


1.bp.blogspot.com
"It's not cheating, it's looking beyond the rules, rookie!"
 
2013-09-09 07:47:44 AM

Ishkur: There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of?


It's irrelevant.  There are rules and there are outcomes of those rules.  If you can find ways to game the rules, you game the rules.  The onus is on the designer of the rule set to make sure less interesting outcomes can't occur, and to make sure the game doesn't devolve and break down as the level of strategy and tactics improves.  Flopping isn't the problem.  Flopping is a natural outcome of the rules as currently designed.  The idea is to design the rules so flopping is not a positive outcome.
 
2013-09-09 07:49:56 AM

foo monkey: Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier


It's still not the same thing. That was simply a poor judgement call from an umpire who couldn't tell if the fan was behind the wall or not. It wasn't like the CF fell down, so Jeffrey Maier ran out on the field, picked up the ball, and ran around with it for a while to ensure the Yankees would score. I think the OP was talking about Steve Bartman, though, since in his case he screwed over the team he was rooting for, which is even less like this case.
 
2013-09-09 07:57:58 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Not for nothing, but that was a nice double save! And he didn't even use his hands.


I think that's the funniest part.

He was breaking the rules so blatantly, but didn't want to be called for a handball.

Couldn't the ref at least award a penalty?
 
2013-09-09 08:19:54 AM

Mike_LowELL: Ishkur: There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of?

It's irrelevant.  There are rules and there are outcomes of those rules.  If you can find ways to game the rules, you game the rules.  The onus is on the designer of the rule set to make sure less interesting outcomes can't occur, and to make sure the game doesn't devolve and break down as the level of strategy and tactics improves.  Flopping isn't the problem.  Flopping is a natural outcome of the rules as currently designed.  The idea is to design the rules so flopping is not a positive outcome.


Spoken like a true NBA fanboi
 
2013-09-09 08:27:00 AM
The obvious solution is to ban fans from all their remaining games and award a forfeit for this game. But since this occured in a backwards country, it will be treated as legitimate.
 
2013-09-09 08:28:02 AM

FriarReb98: foo monkey: HotWingAgenda: Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.

Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier

It's one of the reasons I stopped watching baseball.

/steroids
//Peter Angelos

Jeffrey Farking Meier.  I know the Yankees were on their way to the run they went on anyway, but I still hate that dipshiat.  Apparently he's got a desk job up in Manchester, NH; hope I never run into him.  I don't want to go to jail, but I'll have to when I'm done with him.


Dude, he was 11, let it go.
 
2013-09-09 08:28:55 AM

MugzyBrown: HaywoodJablonski: Not for nothing, but that was a nice double save! And he didn't even use his hands.

I think that's the funniest part.

He was breaking the rules so blatantly, but didn't want to be called for a handball.

Couldn't the ref at least award a penalty?


That's what I was thinking. At the very least, there should have been a penalty kick.

/Weird rules are weird.
 
2013-09-09 08:40:40 AM
Well, the ref was 30+ yards away from what I saw, and the guy was more or less in the same colors as the team, so I could see how the refs missed it.

However, I don't think even in cases like that the ref can award a goal, at best they can award a PK.
 
2013-09-09 08:45:47 AM

Lost Thought 00: The obvious solution is to ban fans from all their remaining games and award a forfeit for this game. But since this occured in a backwards country, it will be treated as legitimate.


It wasn't a fan, it was someone who worked for the club.
 
2013-09-09 08:47:33 AM

Slives: Well, the ref was 30+ yards away from what I saw, and the guy was more or less in the same colors as the team, so I could see how the refs missed it.

However, I don't think even in cases like that the ref can award a goal, at best they can award a PK.


Can't even do that, it should be a drop ball at the spot the guy touched the ball, unless it's in the goal area then it comes out to the goal line.

But the ref can "drop" the ball however he likes (AKA give it to the offense), but this being South America that's probably not a good idea either (if you want to live).

Of course that is just by USSF rules (which are 99.9% FIFA).

http://www.askasoccerreferee.com/?p=3342" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to OUTSIDE AGENT PREVENTS GOAL">OUTSIDE AGENT PREVENTS GOALNovember 14, 2011Question:
Hello, my question is while the ball is kicked and pass the goalkeeper and headed to goal, at this moment if a fan inters the pitch and blocks the ball from passing the line, what will be the referees decisions?
USSF answer (November 14, 2011):
The fan is considered to be an outside agent. If an outside agent enters the field of play the referee must stop play (although not immediately if the outside agent does not interfere with play), have the outside agent removed from the field of play and its immediate surroundings, and then restart play with a dropped ball in the position where the ball was at the time when the match was stopped, unless the ball was stopped inside the goal area, in which case the referee drops the ball on the goal area line parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball was when play was stopped.
 
2013-09-09 09:00:18 AM

Faddy: Lost Thought 00: The obvious solution is to ban fans from all their remaining games and award a forfeit for this game. But since this occured in a backwards country, it will be treated as legitimate.

It wasn't a fan, it was someone who worked for the club.


That doesn't change a thing
 
2013-09-09 09:01:13 AM
I think the real news here is that a soccer game had four (4!) goals in it already, and could have even had a fifth (5th!!).
 
2013-09-09 09:14:43 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Spoken like a true NBA fanboi


Step 1: "This is America, and you have to do everything you can at all costs to succeed!"
Step 2: "Except that, and that, and that."
Step 3: lol
 
2013-09-09 09:28:10 AM

Daniels: marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....

It seems like if someone who isn't supposed to be on the field blocks a goal that's clearly going in, then it should be a goal.


Or at least a penalty shot or something.


foo monkey: HotWingAgenda

Wasn't there an equivalent scenario in baseball a while back? Some fan reached out to catch what would have been caught out, thereby preventing the outfielder for the team he was was rooting for from catching it, and they lost. Or something like that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier

It's one of the reasons I stopped watching baseball.

/steroids
//Peter Angelos


Jeffrey Maier was definitely rooting FOR the Yankees -- I think HotWingAgenda was thinking about Steve Bartman.
 
2013-09-09 09:31:14 AM
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marius2: Mrbogey: I'm sure it's safe to say someone will be killed for this.

Will be? I doubt he made it out of the stadium.


The way he was out running the players, he might have barely made it to the exit before getting caught at a turnstile.
 
2013-09-09 09:45:36 AM

Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?


You must be unfamiliar with college football.
 
2013-09-09 10:04:43 AM

StRalphTheLiar: Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?

You must be unfamiliar with college football.


Or pro.  Fans boo the refs for calling blatant fouls - especially if those negate scoring plays.  And football fans/communities are infamous for attacking the victim of assaults by star players.  If you go out of your way to harass and/or assault the victim of a felony by a player on your team of choice, I think we can all agree you have zero concern about the same guy breaking the rules of a game.  The number of people with the attitude of "Eh, our cornerback raping my daughter is just good, clean fun; but if he commits pass interference, I will string him from a lightpole!" is vanishingly small* - and if you are one, please seek immediate psychiatric help.
 
2013-09-09 11:01:14 AM

Lost Thought 00: The obvious solution is to ban fans from all their remaining games and award a forfeit for this game. But since this occured in a backwards country, it will be treated as legitimate.


It was the playoffs. A semifinal, specifically. They don't win that game, there ARE no remaining games.

Says the team that got screwed filed an appeal; there's ample evidence to give it to them.
 
2013-09-09 11:37:43 AM

marius2: It seems that the ref had no choice but to not award a goal, interesting. I hope the team gets fined and the rightful team moves on, but this is Brazil after all....


Came to say this.
 
2013-09-09 11:41:04 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Mike_LowELL: Ishkur: There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of?

It's irrelevant.  There are rules and there are outcomes of those rules.  If you can find ways to game the rules, you game the rules.  The onus is on the designer of the rule set to make sure less interesting outcomes can't occur, and to make sure the game doesn't devolve and break down as the level of strategy and tactics improves.  Flopping isn't the problem.  Flopping is a natural outcome of the rules as currently designed.  The idea is to design the rules so flopping is not a positive outcome.

Spoken like a true NBA fanboi


Wow, never thought you'd fall for it...
 
2013-09-09 11:49:29 AM

Rwa2play: HaywoodJablonski: Mike_LowELL: Ishkur: There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of?

It's irrelevant.  There are rules and there are outcomes of those rules.  If you can find ways to game the rules, you game the rules.  The onus is on the designer of the rule set to make sure less interesting outcomes can't occur, and to make sure the game doesn't devolve and break down as the level of strategy and tactics improves.  Flopping isn't the problem.  Flopping is a natural outcome of the rules as currently designed.  The idea is to design the rules so flopping is not a positive outcome.

Spoken like a true NBA fanboi

Wow, never thought you'd fall for it...


I'm aware of Mike_Lowell and his affinity towards both pretending to troll and for the NBA
 
2013-09-09 12:03:06 PM
Soooo ghetto
 
2013-09-09 12:20:39 PM

phalamir: StRalphTheLiar: Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?

You must be unfamiliar with college football.

Or pro.  Fans boo the refs for calling blatant fouls - especially if those negate scoring plays.  And football fans/communities are infamous for attacking the victim of assaults by star players.  If you go out of your way to harass and/or assault the victim of a felony by a player on your team of choice, I think we can all agree you have zero concern about the same guy breaking the rules of a game.  The number of people with the attitude of "Eh, our cornerback raping my daughter is just good, clean fun; but if he commits pass interference, I will string him from a lightpole!" is vanishingly small* - and if you are one, please seek immediate psychiatric help.


In some cases, it's simply not agreeing the rule should exist.  Roughing The Passer, for instance, is an incredibly subjective penalty.  And now, they've extended that incredibly subjective penalty (targeting = roughing the receiver) to half the offense.

Those two calls on Vernon Gholston yesterday were abominable.
 
2013-09-09 12:33:05 PM

Daniels: Those two calls on Vernon Gholston yesterday were abominable.


The goal of the d-back should be to defend by playing the ball, not defend by hitting a player as hard as they can hoping they drop the ball.

The rule has been pretty clear and those types of hits need to be removed from the game.
 
2013-09-09 01:37:34 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: I think the real news here is that a soccer game had four (4!) goals in it already, and could have even had a fifth (5th!!).


Old joke is old.
 
2013-09-09 01:45:05 PM

StRalphTheLiar: You must be unfamiliar with college football.


I'm Canadian. What's college football?
 
2013-09-09 02:14:57 PM
People thought the Vet was bad for having a court in the basement, atleast we didnt need riot police.
 
2013-09-09 02:15:49 PM
Ishkur: Here's something I've never understood about foreign sports: If you or your team cheats to win.... why would you celebrate that?

There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of? And people are not only proud of it, they gloat in the other side's faces. How can you say you're better when you broke the rules to win? It's nothing to celebrate.


In many countries, dicking over/cheating the government is the only way you can get ahead (that clearly never happens in America.  ever.).  So it's to be celebrated when a player does that.

Similar reason that Miami-Dade County leads all other metro areas, by a wide margin, in public assistance fraud.  It's cultural.
 
2013-09-09 02:26:08 PM
I don'[t care if it counted or not, I don't care if it's Kosher or not. That was awesome to watch.

THEN I got to see the guy outrun farking EVERYone to run down the ramp guarded by soldiers. Holy Fark, maybe if I move out of the US, soccer will be fun to watch, these people don't fark around. At. All...
 
2013-09-09 02:38:10 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Rwa2play: HaywoodJablonski: Mike_LowELL: Ishkur: There's something to be proud of an honest and fair victory, but when it was gained through subterfuge and trickery, what's there to be proud of?

It's irrelevant.  There are rules and there are outcomes of those rules.  If you can find ways to game the rules, you game the rules.  The onus is on the designer of the rule set to make sure less interesting outcomes can't occur, and to make sure the game doesn't devolve and break down as the level of strategy and tactics improves.  Flopping isn't the problem.  Flopping is a natural outcome of the rules as currently designed.  The idea is to design the rules so flopping is not a positive outcome.

Spoken like a true NBA fanboi

Wow, never thought you'd fall for it...

I'm aware of Mike_Lowell and his affinity towards both pretending to troll and for the NBA


Oh ok...thought you took his bait.
 
2013-09-09 02:39:27 PM

Ishkur: StRalphTheLiar: You must be unfamiliar with college football.

I'm Canadian. What's college football?


There are some reasons why I like Canada over the US; this is one of them.

You are blessed sir, truly blessed not to have your soul stained by CFB.
 
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