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(Christian Science Monitor)   Are dolphins wet bats? Are bats furry dolphins? Are scientists appealing to convergent evolution to explain a really unlikely coincidence? Click now to learn the shocking answers   (csmonitor.com) divider line 25
    More: Interesting, dolphins, convergent evolution, genetics, echidnas, animal echolocation, Platypus, genomics, semantic similarity  
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2013-09-08 07:58:08 PM  
What a terrible article
 
2013-09-08 08:05:00 PM  
Mexicans are dolphins?
/I kid
 
2013-09-08 08:10:27 PM  
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-09-08 08:23:54 PM  
After a GIS for Squeak, the Bat-Dolphin, I'm sorry to inform you all he probably only exists in my imagination.
 
2013-09-08 08:24:26 PM  
Convergent evolution at the genetic level has been well documented for quite some time, and in organisms much more distantly related than bats and dolphins. Proteins produced by genes are constrained by physical and chemical properties, and there are a limited number of options that something can mutate too. I haven't read the Nature article yet, I'm at home so accessing it is a bit of a pain versus when I am on my network at work. But seeing some signature of convergent evolution in many genes, presumably ones that all function in the appropriate physiological process (echolocation) isn't a stretch. It could be a fairly weak "signal" in those 200 genes which means it is far less improbable than you would think, as those genes don't necessarily evolve completely independently of one another. If they interact with one another for instance, that is a further constraint on parts of those genes and so their evolutionary patterns will be correlated with one another.
 
2013-09-08 08:28:28 PM  
I highly doubt that a proper paper is going to be reported on correctly by the Christian Science Monitor.
 
2013-09-08 08:42:13 PM  
Interesting that dolphins are generally the most used example when explaining convergent evolution in general terms.

palaeos.info
 
2013-09-08 08:58:28 PM  

poopsoup48: I highly doubt that a proper paper is going to be reported on correctly by the Christian Science Monitor.


Why? The CSM science reporting is usually good. I'm not sure which branch(es) of Christianity they belong too but they are not the kind that take Genesis literally.
 
2013-09-08 09:15:55 PM  

talkertopc: poopsoup48: I highly doubt that a proper paper is going to be reported on correctly by the Christian Science Monitor.

Why? The CSM science reporting is usually good. I'm not sure which branch(es) of Christianity they belong too but they are not the kind that take Genesis literally.


It's owned by Christian Scientists (yes THOSE Christian Scientists) but the funny thing is that it was created as an anti-ideology paper, to combat yellow journalism by corporate media.  They don't even endorse political candidates.
 
2013-09-08 09:26:44 PM  
Dolphins aren't fish, they're mammals.
 
2013-09-08 09:31:44 PM  
Bats aren't bugs!
 
2013-09-08 09:33:31 PM  

talkertopc: poopsoup48: I highly doubt that a proper paper is going to be reported on correctly by the Christian Science Monitor.

Why? The CSM science reporting is usually good. I'm not sure which branch(es) of Christianity they belong too but they are not the kind that take Genesis literally.


not dissimilarily, al jazeera has some of the best in-depth reporting anywhere. yea really.
 
2013-09-08 09:46:21 PM  
Since the existence of any other intelligent entity in any aspect of reality, which may have designed the incomprehensibly intricate biological systems prevalent in nature, can easily be disproven, then whatever remains, however wildly improbable, such as randomly useful movements towards progressively useful traits and ultimately single- to multicellular organisms of vastly different design and function from a single convergence of inert chemicals, must be the truth.

Amirite?
 
2013-09-08 09:46:59 PM  

Thosw: Bats aren't bugs!


Thank you for not disappointing me with the Calvin and Hobbes reference.. would have also have accepted the Val Kilmer Batman quote that Bats aren't rodents.. :D
 
2013-09-08 10:02:20 PM  
Are dolphins wet bats?

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2013-09-08 10:20:09 PM  
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2013-09-08 10:42:08 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [pbs.twimg.com image 500x368]


Check out these balls.  biatches love balls.
 
2013-09-08 11:23:58 PM  
With echolocation, you always have to bet on the bat.
 
2013-09-09 12:26:36 AM  
Headline = question ∴ answer = no.

Since headline is multiple questions, I can only assume the answer is

nooooooooooooooo.com
 
2013-09-09 12:39:04 AM  
So when the aliens come, will I be able to have sex with them?
 
2013-09-09 01:24:29 AM  
FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: EVOLUTION DISPROVEN
 
2013-09-09 05:12:23 AM  

poopsoup48: I highly doubt that a proper paper is going to be reported on correctly by the Christian Science Monitor.


The CSM was founded by Christian Scientists over a hundred years ago. Today it has evolved (heh) into a mag of considerable reputation for honest and insightful investigative reporting, and has absolutely nothing to do with its namesake.
 
2013-09-09 06:23:27 AM  
/facepalm

Or it could just be that bats and dolphins evolved the same answer to the same problem independently.
 
2013-09-09 08:59:23 AM  

PerilousApricot: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: EVOLUTION DISPROVEN


Hahahaha
 
2013-09-09 09:40:54 AM  

Githerax: Since the existence of any other intelligent entity in any aspect of reality, which may have designed the incomprehensibly intricate biological systems prevalent in nature, can easily be disproven, then whatever remains, however wildly improbable, such as randomly useful movements towards progressively useful traits and ultimately single- to multicellular organisms of vastly different design and function from a single convergence of inert chemicals, must be the truth.

Amirite?


No.
 
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