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(Fox News)   New group, Trail Life USA, attempts to bring masculinity back since the Boy Scouts allowed gays in. Said one masculine supporter of Trail Life USA: "I've cried a river since this started." Seriously. He said that. Good luck, ladies   (foxnews.com) divider line 215
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2013-09-08 04:01:07 PM
A group of guys wanting to be manly while hanging out in the forest with no women around?

Nope, totally not in the closet. Definitely not gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys. Certainly not so much as an iota of homoerotic subtext there. And clearly, they are in no way sexually repressed by thinking they have to be manly in order to not be gay.
 
2013-09-08 04:04:38 PM
The uniforms are pretty cool.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-09-08 04:07:06 PM
Ladies?
 
2013-09-08 04:10:59 PM
"This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."


You know who else liked masculine outdoor programs to raise young men?

i28.photobucket.com
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 04:11:56 PM
...you guys wanna go camping?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 04:16:24 PM
"You have dysentery."
"Press RETURN to size up the situation."
"You have died of dysentery."
 
2013-09-08 04:23:02 PM
At least NAMBLA has a family friendly new name.
 
2013-09-08 04:48:32 PM
I bet a dollar that the organization falls apart after Stemberger and  Scheer are charged with child molestation.
 
2013-09-08 04:51:12 PM
You know who else had their own youth organization?
 
2013-09-08 04:55:40 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?


NAMBLA?
 
2013-09-08 04:58:56 PM

somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?


I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 05:00:25 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?


www.aattic.net
 
2013-09-08 05:05:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache


the founder of NAMBLA?

/they all had mustaches back then
 
2013-09-08 05:05:04 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?

I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache


Settle for one with a beard?

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-09-08 05:05:23 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?

I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache



Burt Reynolds?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 05:11:12 PM

FloydA: MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?
NAMBLA?
I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache
Burt Reynolds?


Tom Selleck
 
2013-09-08 05:19:14 PM
In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.
 
2013-09-08 05:20:25 PM

King Something: Definitely not gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys.


You know, if you do that right it can be nine guys blowing nine guys. I never understood why someone had to be left out. Poor guy.
 
2013-09-08 05:24:51 PM

vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.


Wood shop isn't a very masculine activity.  Why would manly men know that hammers aren't used with nuts and bolts?
 
2013-09-08 05:39:46 PM
What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly. Come to think of it, receiving would seem more than I could handle as well.
 
2013-09-08 05:51:25 PM
Well, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that religious organizations are the 'perfect' stewards of our young boys.
 
2013-09-08 05:51:55 PM
Cry me a river...was it the Peggy Lee version?
 
2013-09-08 05:52:22 PM
Words escape me................thoughts and things I'd like to do do not but words.........
 
2013-09-08 05:54:10 PM
I've heard they have three sub-groups, named after the manliest things they could think of:  fire, drag racing, and bears.
 
2013-09-08 05:54:10 PM
Why does every merit badge test have to be done bottomless?
 
2013-09-08 05:54:46 PM
I have to do everything around here????

dvdmedia.ign.com
 
2013-09-08 05:55:39 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Why does every merit badge test have to be done bottomless?


You won't get more flair on your sash by asking questions like that.
 
2013-09-08 05:57:21 PM
Oh my.
 
2013-09-08 05:57:25 PM
WHAT UP!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion.
Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual.
 
2013-09-08 05:58:22 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?


Shirley not your mother, she took on all cummers

/didn't mean that
 
2013-09-08 06:01:44 PM
Will someone please think of the homophobes?
 
2013-09-08 06:01:56 PM
I've noticed that people who are secure in their own sexuality never worry about other people's sexuality.
 
2013-09-08 06:02:34 PM
These parts of TFA kinda stuck out for me.

"Alan Scheer, 50, a one-time Scoutmaster from Oklahoma who was in attendance at the Trail Life USA conference, said, "I've cried a river since this started. I wanted to be buried in my Scout uniform.
"I couldn't have imagined anything that would ever make me want to take it off again."

and

"I want to have a prominent faith component that will be weaved in every fiber of the program," Stemberger, an Orlando attorney who has reportedly been criticized for professing homophobic beliefs, told NBC News.
"But at the same time, we are not going to become religious and churchy. This is not another church program. This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."

First off, what kind of pathetic ass bag do you have to be to still want to be buried in your scout uniform when you're 50 years old?
Then "prominent faith component" but "not religious or churchy". Which is it? They're kind of mutually exclusive.
 
2013-09-08 06:02:38 PM
This sounds gayer than 9 guys blowing 10 guys.
 
2013-09-08 06:04:07 PM
Well, time to start camping.  You dress up as Oscar Wilde and I'll sing Noel Coward songs.

/not the least bit obscure
 
2013-09-08 06:04:53 PM
lighten up guys, what's more manly than bigotry and hatred?
 
2013-09-08 06:05:02 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-09-08 06:05:10 PM

you are a puppet: WHAT UP!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion.
Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual.


Cool. Got any flyers?
 
2013-09-08 06:08:14 PM
Oh, yea, this will work out just fine.
 
2013-09-08 06:08:52 PM
I wish I could make fun of these assholes, but I'm just so tired of their bullshiat.

Was a Scout myself(Life), and have 2 sons in it now, one Scouts one Cubs, my wife is a den leader...

Am
Just
So
Tired
Of
These
farking
Assholes.
 
2013-09-08 06:11:14 PM
I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.
 
2013-09-08 06:11:23 PM

pestluvr: Well, time to start camping.  You dress up as Oscar Wilde and I'll sing Noel Coward songs.

/not the least bit obscure


They've got Renaissance Festival written ALL over them.

/but not really, RenFaire people are usually pretty open minded types in my experience
 
2013-09-08 06:11:29 PM

gnosis301: you are a puppet: WHAT UP!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion.
Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual.

Cool. Got any flyers?


...Or poppers?
 
2013-09-08 06:12:37 PM
Wow they are so deep in the closet they are in Narnia.
 
2013-09-08 06:12:44 PM
Trail Life USA has all kinds of badges, mainly ones for taking the back route.
 
2013-09-08 06:13:20 PM

you are a puppet: WHAT UP!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion.
Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual.


Ahh, I almost spit out pepsi. Great reference.
 
2013-09-08 06:14:59 PM
The don't just have camp counselors, they have VERY camp counselors!

i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-08 06:15:14 PM
Just join the Pawnee Rangers.

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-08 06:15:29 PM

Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly. Come to think of it, receiving would seem more than I could handle as well.


What could be more effeminate than being attracted to women?
 
2013-09-08 06:15:48 PM
"I want to have a prominent faith component that will be weaved in every fiber of the program," Stemberger, an Orlando attorney who has reportedly been criticized for professing homophobic beliefs, told NBC News.

"But at the same time, we are not going to become religious and churchy. This is not another church program. This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."

Please. Stop sugar coating your turds. A real man would have been blunt about it instead of side stepping with poor chosen attempts at political correctness. You hate gay boys and men. You do not feel that you should be forced to be inclusive and that your bigotry is perfectly reasonable. Own up to it or shut the F up.

/Sexual preferences and masculinity have NOTHING to do with each other.
 
2013-09-08 06:15:56 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


I'm just so incredibly good looking that when we're hiking, anyone who's the least bit attracted to guys will just throw themselves at me the second we're out of sight of the road.

It gets embarrassing, but I try to be understanding.
 
2013-09-08 06:16:30 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.




Because they're not gay, and it takes all of their will to keep from having sexual thoughts about other men. So they can just imagine how it would be nearly impossible to control yourself if you actually were gay!
 
2013-09-08 06:17:09 PM

FloydA: I bet a dollar that the organization falls apart after Stemberger and  Scheer are charged with child molestation.


What I was going to say.  The preconceived notion among homophobes is that gay men will sexually abuse young boys.  My theory is that homphobes are much more likely to sexually abuse young boys.
 
2013-09-08 06:17:15 PM
If you have to use the term 'masculine' to describe what you're doing, you have some serious issues.
 
2013-09-08 06:17:16 PM

MisterTweak: MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?

I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache

Settle for one with a beard?

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 485x272]


ZING!
 
2013-09-08 06:17:47 PM

groppet: Wow they are so deep in the closet they are in Narnia.


The Lion, The Witch, and the Flaming Prince Caspian
 
2013-09-08 06:19:35 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

I'm just so incredibly good looking that when we're hiking, anyone who's the least bit attracted to guys will just throw themselves at me the second we're out of sight of the road.

It gets embarrassing, but I try to be understanding.


Have you ever been bathing in a mountain stream?
 
2013-09-08 06:20:05 PM
You know, I didn't realize that thinking everyone should be tolerant of homosexuality meant that everyone got a free pass to spread stereotypes and treat homosexuality like it was a bad thing.  It's almost like you all really hate homosexuality but are just trying to hide those views in the closet.

/Or is this just another case of "well, we can say it because it is our word"?
 
2013-09-08 06:20:37 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


It's not necessarily that they think their children will be molested, it's that they don't want their children exposed to the gay lifestyle whatsoever.  They consider homosexuality a sin in the eyes of God and want their children to think gay people are icky and gross and sinners that will burn in the pits of hell, so any chance that their children may actually see that gay people are completely normal is something they don't want.

Plus, Pat Robertson told them about the secret rings.
 
2013-09-08 06:20:37 PM

Kibbler: FloydA: I bet a dollar that the organization falls apart after Stemberger and  Scheer are charged with child molestation.

What I was going to say.  The preconceived notion among homophobes is that gay men will sexually abuse young boys.  My theory is that homphobes are much more likely to sexually abuse young boys.


I think it's more likely that they're afraid that the gay scouts are going to seduce them. They don't want the temptation around.
 
2013-09-08 06:21:37 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-08 06:22:29 PM
So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.
 
2013-09-08 06:22:55 PM

jaytkay: [25.media.tumblr.com image 460x657]


You shut your whore mouth. That was an awesome show.
 
2013-09-08 06:23:43 PM

Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly.


"My name is Kronar, son of man.  For a hundred generations, my fathers have kept the bloodline pure.  Free from woman's taint."

/no way in hell am I linking oglaf
 
2013-09-08 06:25:28 PM

atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.


Someone sounds a little...butthurt...
 
2013-09-08 06:27:10 PM
For a bunch of guys declaring themselves so "masculine," these guys sure do sound like a bunch of pansies. There needs to be a new phrase for people of this ilk. I'm going with Wah-sculine.
 
2013-09-08 06:27:50 PM

06Wahoo: You know, I didn't realize that thinking everyone should be tolerant of homosexuality meant that everyone got a free pass to spread stereotypes and treat homosexuality like it was a bad thing.  It's almost like you all really hate homosexuality but are just trying to hide those views in the closet.

/Or is this just another case of "well, we can say it because it is our word"?




0/0 No effort at all.
 
2013-09-08 06:29:50 PM

atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.


Welcome to Fark!
 
2013-09-08 06:31:06 PM

jaytkay: [25.media.tumblr.com image 460x657]


Got Wood?
 
2013-09-08 06:32:11 PM
Countdown to gay sex scandal in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-09-08 06:32:59 PM
Is this thread an example of how Fark has turned into another Stormfront over the last 10 years?

/ see other thread
/ Lulz
 
2013-09-08 06:33:06 PM
Approved
Workmen
Are
Not
Ashamed
 
2013-09-08 06:34:06 PM

Mister Peejay: Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly.

"My name is Kronar, son of man.  For a hundred generations, my fathers have kept the bloodline pure.  Free from woman's taint."

/no way in hell am I linking oglaf


The one-offs are some of the best comics in the run, but I'm ready to start seeing some more running storylines.  It's been months, or feels like so.
 
2013-09-08 06:34:24 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-08 06:35:42 PM

atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.


According to the news.  The number of gay-bashing bigots who tumble out of the closet is more than statistically significant.  At some point, every time that "John Smith hates gays" is reported, and it is followed up within 6 months by "John Smith arrested in sting for trying to suck an undercover cops wang, even after he was cuffed and in the squad car", you kinda have to consider that the things might be related.  Hell, even other Republicans were openly incredulous when David Vitter was farking women.  When the gay-bashers assume they are all queerer than Liberace's houseboy, I tend to accept that as gospel.
 
2013-09-08 06:37:23 PM

you are a puppet: WHAT UP!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion.
Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual.


Nice. Nice.
 
2013-09-08 06:37:41 PM

vartian: King Something: Definitely not gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys.

You know, if you do that right it can be nine guys blowing nine guys. I never understood why someone had to be left out. Poor guy.


Because one guy is having to work twice as hard.

Heh. Hard.
 
2013-09-08 06:38:09 PM

sillydragon: I May Be Crazy But...: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

I'm just so incredibly good looking that when we're hiking, anyone who's the least bit attracted to guys will just throw themselves at me the second we're out of sight of the road.

It gets embarrassing, but I try to be understanding.

Have you ever been bathing in a mountain stream?


Of course not. I have a responsibility not to weaponize my sexiness.
 
2013-09-08 06:38:38 PM

atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual


If you reaaaaaallly reaaaaallly care about not getting too close to homosexuals, you've probably got at least a fear of that going on, yes. Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.
 
2013-09-08 06:38:39 PM

phalamir: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.

According to the news.  The number of gay-bashing bigots who tumble out of the closet is more than statistically significant.  At some point, every time that "John Smith hates gays" is reported, and it is followed up within 6 months by "John Smith arrested in sting for trying to suck an undercover cops wang, even after he was cuffed and in the squad car", you kinda have to consider that the things might be related.  Hell, even other Republicans were openly incredulous when David Vitter was farking women.  When the gay-bashers assume they are all queerer than Liberace's houseboy, I tend to accept that as gospel.


Yeah, it's the hypocrisy of the whole thing.  Any large gathering of "think of the children" right wingers is made up of quite a few self-hating gays and child molesters.
 
2013-09-08 06:39:59 PM

Glitchwerks: it's that they don't want their children exposed to the gay lifestyle whatsoever.  They consider homosexuality a sin in the eyes of God and want their children to think gay people are icky and gross and sinners that will burn in the pits of hell, so any chance that their children may actually see that gay people are completely normal is something they don't want.


Pretty much.

Sorry, but there's nothing "masculine" with being so utterly fearful of certain natural-occurring sexual behaviors. It makes you a farking coward.
 
2013-09-08 06:41:50 PM

atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-09-08 06:42:18 PM
"I've cried a river since this started."

Well, wipe your mascara, finish strapping on your heels and butch up, honey.

//the closeted ones are the WORST, I swear
 
2013-09-08 06:42:31 PM

baka-san: I wish I could make fun of these assholes, but I'm just so tired of their bullshiat.

Was a Scout myself(Life), and have 2 sons in it now, one Scouts one Cubs, my wife is a den leader...

Am
Just
So
Tired
Of
These
farking
Assholes.


I know what you mean. I was a den leader myself.
 
2013-09-08 06:43:15 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


Because.....you have to see the issue from their point of view. This is how most right wing homophobic people think of the "gays". In their eyes......all homosexual people want to change everyone and teach them how to become gay. These very afraid people are really scared that their hidden desires will become realized if they do not form another group to counter what the Boy Scouts now have become.

Also, I think it could be that 'these guys' might just not know the difference between a pedophile and a gay person. To them.....that is essentially the same thing.

/ I really think that they just might be somewhat confused a little.....about themselves mainly.
// Because....we gotta be manly and stuff! There is no way people will think that is gay. No way.
/// Umm.....Trail Life USA? Who thought up that name? Brilliant!
 
2013-09-08 06:45:32 PM

King Something: A group of guys wanting to be manly while hanging out in the forest with no women around?

Nope, totally not in the closet. Definitely not gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys. Certainly not so much as an iota of homoerotic subtext there. And clearly, they are in no way sexually repressed by thinking they have to be manly in order to not be gay.


I totally LOLed at that.
 
2013-09-08 06:45:39 PM

oldtaku: Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.


Unless, ya know, they are crazy and armed and off their meds...

But then that goes for anybody.
 
2013-09-08 06:49:18 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: phalamir: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.

According to the news.  The number of gay-bashing bigots who tumble out of the closet is more than statistically significant.  At some point, every time that "John Smith hates gays" is reported, and it is followed up within 6 months by "John Smith arrested in sting for trying to suck an undercover cops wang, even after he was cuffed and in the squad car", you kinda have to consider that the things might be related.  Hell, even other Republicans were openly incredulous when David Vitter was farking women.  When the gay-bashers assume they are all queerer than Liberace's houseboy, I tend to accept that as gospel.

Yeah, it's the hypocrisy of the whole thing.  Any large gathering of "think of the children" right wingers is made up of quite a few self-hating gays and child molesters.




Tampa Bay Gay Prostitutes Gearing Up For Flood Of Closeted Republicans
 
2013-09-08 06:51:10 PM

revrendjim: I know what you mean. I was a den leader myself.


I help out, but she is much better with the younger ones.

I'm better at herding the older ones around and making sure they don't go Lord of the Flies.
 
2013-09-08 06:51:57 PM
In 50 years, this "We made our own group specifically so we could bitach about gays" group is going to look a lot like the KKK.

/Go Team Jesus.
 
2013-09-08 06:53:36 PM

cc_rider: "This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."


You know who else liked masculine outdoor programs to raise young men?

[i28.photobucket.com image 460x700]


Waitaminute, is the author of that book, is he is, or is he ain't advocatin' for young man homoseckshiality?
 
2013-09-08 06:58:26 PM
This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men

Why does the phrase "as camp as a row of pink tents with bells on" keep thrusting firmly but lovingly into my mind?
 
2013-09-08 07:02:26 PM
Well cry me a.....OK then, carry on.
 
2013-09-08 07:07:58 PM
Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.

But forget all that, IDEOLOGY UBER ALLES!!!!!!
 
2013-09-08 07:10:39 PM

palelizard: I've heard they have three sub-groups, named after the manliest things they could think of:  fire, drag racing, and bears.


They also have plans to be hip and modern with a completely overhauled merit badge system.  One of the badges will be about that new dance craze all the kids are doing, twinking.
 
2013-09-08 07:10:40 PM

mark12A: Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.

But forget all that, IDEOLOGY UBER ALLES!!!!!!


2/10, you'll get a few bites.
 
2013-09-08 07:14:16 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


It can be a serious problem for young, attractive, heterosexual men.   Happens all the time.
 
2013-09-08 07:16:40 PM

Glitchwerks: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

It's not necessarily that they think their children will be molested, it's that they don't want their children exposed to the gay lifestyle whatsoever.  They consider homosexuality a sin in the eyes of God and want their children to think gay people are icky and gross and sinners that will burn in the pits of hell, so any chance that their children may actually see that gay people are completely normal is something they don't want.

Plus, Pat Robertson told them about the secret rings.


Yes, he did, but Pat Robertson got a few details wrong, though, like just assuming the rings were meant to be worn on the finger.
 
2013-09-08 07:18:39 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud
 
2013-09-08 07:19:37 PM
atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.


assets.amuniversal.com
You're catching on.
 
Boe
2013-09-08 07:20:10 PM

mark12A: Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.

But forget all that, IDEOLOGY UBER ALLES!!!!!!


Yep.  They should just allow women and gay men in the military and exclude straight men.  A lot of those issues would go away :-)
 
2013-09-08 07:20:37 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud


Uh huh. Well then. Why don't you take a seat over here...
 
2013-09-08 07:20:39 PM
Yeah, more like "Treasure Trail Life USA"!

USA = U Sexy Ass
 
2013-09-08 07:20:56 PM
Oh yes, it's absolutely essential that our 11-12 year olds be made completely aware of their options for nipple rings and PAs....

/leave no stone untainted
 
2013-09-08 07:22:24 PM
will the official song be "i'm am lumberjack and i'm ok"?
 
2013-09-08 07:23:39 PM

Infernalist: Well, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that religious organizations are the 'perfect' stewards of our young boys.


The Catholic Church agrees.
 
2013-09-08 07:25:47 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud


I think it's trying to communicate. What should we do?
 
2013-09-08 07:26:29 PM
Gays or no gays, scouting is gay.
 
2013-09-08 07:27:09 PM
Yep.  They should just allow women and gay men in the military and exclude straight men.  A lot of those issues would go away :-)

Well, it is headed that way. Unfortunately these people will be busy in their sensitivity training classes when the missiles come over the horizon....
 
2013-09-08 07:27:20 PM

JonZoidberg: Mister Peejay: Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly.

"My name is Kronar, son of man.  For a hundred generations, my fathers have kept the bloodline pure.  Free from woman's taint."

/no way in hell am I linking oglaf

The one-offs are some of the best comics in the run, but I'm ready to start seeing some more running storylines.  It's been months, or feels like so.


I still want to know whatever happened to that apprentice.
 
2013-09-08 07:27:44 PM

vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.


That be what them book larnin' folks call a mixed metafur.
 
2013-09-08 07:28:48 PM

jaytkay: [25.media.tumblr.com image 460x657]


Now that is the most unintentionally funny cover I've seen in some time...
 
2013-09-08 07:30:02 PM

ukexpat: vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.

That be what them book larnin' folks call a mixed metafur.


Mixed? Damn, given the source, I'm surprised they didn't call it a "mulatto metaphor".
 
2013-09-08 07:30:49 PM

Arachnophobe: pestluvr: Well, time to start camping.  You dress up as Oscar Wilde and I'll sing Noel Coward songs.

/not the least bit obscure

They've got Renaissance Festival written ALL over them.

/but not really, RenFaire people are usually pretty open minded types in my experience


HUZZAH, indeed.
 
2013-09-08 07:31:00 PM

mark12A: Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.



Thank you for the funny story.
 
2013-09-08 07:34:28 PM
Manhood CampingManhood Camping Firequest. Lookin' for a 100% for real bros to share/experience manhood in all its glory. This is for real, I don't want to waste my time or yours. 100% JO and manhood, no sugar added. I AM NOT GAY. Don't even think this is a sex thing, it's all about manhood.

Looking for bros to head into the woods and bond by fire, experience life as men once lived it, JO circle, and fire/vision quests.

THIS IS NOT A SEX THING.

Gonna need some basic things/skills, I don't want to be slowed down by fools:

- must be in reasonable shape, if you get winded walking then stay home
- Ed Hardy camping gear, it's really good gear and it's awesome
- desire to be a man among men
- not afraid to wield a blade
- crystal, I'm not sharing mine
- must be able to make a fire
- gloves
- a knowledge of native vegetation (knowledge of psychotropic fungus a plus)
- knowledge of modern music
- protective/splash resistant eye wear
- 5 - 10 of those clip things that rock climbers use


We are gonna need a mobile music device, ipod or something. I'm bringing the music for the firequests and visionquests, Nickleback's The Long Road. I only have it on CD, so I'll have my discman as a last resort, an ipod would be nicer. Just sayin'.


Dont' want to see"

- bad attitudes
- gay/homoerotic behavior, this is a manhood thing. I AM NOT GAY.
- cock rings, can't keep it up w/o help, you aren't gonna make it on this quest
- firearms, there's gonna be enough guns going off and spent shells to pick up
- the nerds/dorks/lames/and anyone less than 100% into manhood.

If you are serious, then I promise you this will be the trip of your life. It will change the way you think. I'm serious, and I AM NOT GAY. To see a group of bros being men, a JO circle by a camp fire. The charge/energy in the air. Crystals get jacked, no lie. You will slip into a different frame of mind, you will feel electric.

Last outing, we had a group that was so charged we attracted bears. It was no deal, nature knew man was in the forest, the crystals gave us the confidence to own those bears. I saw it, I was there.

100% SERIOUS, NO FAKERS
 
2013-09-08 07:34:39 PM
We'd show you the recruiting poster but then you'll need to take a seat over there.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-09-08 07:37:17 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: First off, what kind of pathetic ass bag do you have to be to still want to be buried in your scout uniform when you're 50 years old?


It's like the guy who scored the deciding touchdown in the senior homecoming game wanting to be buried in his uniform with the winning football. When your life peaks at 17, you're going to desperately hang on to it forever.

If my big accomplishment in life was reaching the top level of the closeted rock-banging club* I would have burned the uniform and purged it from my memory.

* this may or may not be a pun
 
2013-09-08 07:42:11 PM

baka-san: oldtaku: Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.

Unless, ya know, they are crazy and armed and off their meds... But then that goes for anybody.


When they want to eat your liver or face with fava beans and chianti that is definitely an issue.
 
2013-09-08 07:45:48 PM

ImpendingCynic: It's like the guy who scored the deciding touchdown in the senior homecoming game wanting to be buried in his uniform with the winning football. When your life peaks at 17, you're going to desperately hang on to it forever.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-08 07:47:44 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


I still don't understand why these guys think being gay = being a pedophile.
 
2013-09-08 07:48:06 PM

FormlessOne: ukexpat: vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.

That be what them book larnin' folks call a mixed metafur.

Mixed? Damn, given the source, I'm surprised they didn't call it a "mulatto metaphor".


It's not that black-and-white
 
2013-09-08 07:48:52 PM

HawgWild: Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud

I think it's trying to communicate. What should we do?


I didn't know they became self-aware. Well, maybe not self-aware but able to make words. I'm so very scared. Need help soonish.
 
2013-09-08 07:49:00 PM
data.whicdn.com
 
2013-09-08 07:53:00 PM
megarian:  I'm so very scared. Need help soonish.

Hold me ...
 
2013-09-08 07:53:08 PM

HawgWild: Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped RAPED, dear god I can't SPELL little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud


I think it's trying to communicate. What should we do?


Throw this at it. Works every time.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-08 07:57:36 PM
Good lord, I'm an Eagle Scout and I think that this was the best decision that the BSA has made lately. These guys are just a bunch of cry babies.

Especially since those stories leaked out of the BSA covering up cases of Scoutmasters sexually abusing young scouts. I wish that these people freaking out about letting gays join would've been just at outraged at the coverups.

But yeah...it's really the gays we really need to worry about.
 
2013-09-08 07:58:17 PM

mark12A: Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.

But forget all that, IDEOLOGY UBER ALLES!!!!!!


Confusing Gays with Pedophiles?  Gay Men tend to be attracted to Gay Men.   Pedophiles are attracted to children.  So.. there's that.
 
2013-09-08 07:59:53 PM

PapaChester: "I want to have a prominent faith component that will be weaved in every fiber of the program," Stemberger, an Orlando attorney who has reportedly been criticized for professing homophobic beliefs, told NBC News.

"But at the same time, we are not going to become religious and churchy. This is not another church program. This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."

Please. Stop sugar coating your turds. A real man would have been blunt about it instead of side stepping with poor chosen attempts at political correctness. You hate gay boys and men. You do not feel that you should be forced to be inclusive and that your bigotry is perfectly reasonable. Own up to it or shut the F up.

/Sexual preferences and masculinity have NOTHING to do with each other.


THANK YOU. How the hell did gay people become third-gender? The whole  point is that you're attracted to the  same sex--a lesbian won't be attracted to a transgender ftm, because she  isn't attracted to men at all.
 
2013-09-08 08:03:27 PM
I still don't understand why these guys think being gay = being a pedophile.

Ohhh, I dunno....
mysite.verizon.net
 
2013-09-08 08:03:38 PM
I thought there already was a group for girls, American Heritage Girls who felt the Girl Scouts were just way to Lesbian.  Not a lot of these around but maybe the guys who want to flee the gay scouts can join up with this group

They can be homophobic together
 
2013-09-08 08:04:22 PM

ciberido: JonZoidberg: Mister Peejay: Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly.

"My name is Kronar, son of man.  For a hundred generations, my fathers have kept the bloodline pure.  Free from woman's taint."

/no way in hell am I linking oglaf

The one-offs are some of the best comics in the run, but I'm ready to start seeing some more running storylines.  It's been months, or feels like so.

I still want to know whatever happened to that apprentice.


Um...?

Fairly sure that he died.  He was killed.  He's never coming back.
 
2013-09-08 08:05:51 PM

mark12A: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay = being a pedophile.

Ohhh, I dunno....
[mysite.verizon.net image 300x210]


So, does this make you a pedophile?
cdn01.dailycaller.com
 
2013-09-08 08:06:38 PM

HawgWild: megarian:  I'm so very scared. Need help soonish.

Hold me ...


Okay.

*sniiiiff*

You smell like a manly pine forest.

I think the Trail Life USA may have a position for you.
 
2013-09-08 08:08:37 PM

megarian: HawgWild: megarian:  I'm so very scared. Need help soonish.

Hold me ...

Okay.

*sniiiiff*

You smell like a manly pine forest.

I think the Trail Life USA may have a position for you.


O_O

NOOOOOOOOOO!
 
2013-09-08 08:12:03 PM
When these guys knock on my door, I am _not_ buying their cookies!
 
2013-09-08 08:13:06 PM

phalamir: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you do wanna go camping with homosexuals, you are gay.

According to fark, disliking something makes you be something.

Everyone in the world is a flaming homo except flaming homos on fark.

According to the news.  The number of gay-bashing bigots who tumble out of the closet is more than statistically significant.  At some point, every time that "John Smith hates gays" is reported, and it is followed up within 6 months by "John Smith arrested in sting for trying to suck an undercover cops wang, even after he was cuffed and in the squad car", you kinda have to consider that the things might be related.  Hell, even other Republicans were openly incredulous when David Vitter was farking women.  When the gay-bashers assume they are all queerer than Liberace's houseboy, I tend to accept that as gospel.


The news also reports an alarming number of rapes by blacks and terrorist acts by muslims, but I am willing to bet those stereotypes are not on your accepted news material list.
 
2013-09-08 08:13:26 PM

jaytkay: [25.media.tumblr.com image 460x657]


Notice how no actors are thin like that anymore?
 
2013-09-08 08:19:09 PM

ImpendingCynic: Dingleberry Dickwad: First off, what kind of pathetic ass bag do you have to be to still want to be buried in your scout uniform when you're 50 years old?

It's like the guy who scored the deciding touchdown in the senior homecoming game wanting to be buried in his uniform with the winning football. When your life peaks at 17, you're going to desperately hang on to it forever.

If my big accomplishment in life was reaching the top level of the closeted rock-banging club* I would have burned the uniform and purged it from my memory.

* this may or may not be a pun


www.coldhardfootballfacts.com
 
2013-09-08 08:28:22 PM
What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the rights of the scouting organization and everyone who is uncomfortable with gays around their kids--they are just going to have to get over themselves and deal with it is the general consensus of this thread.

But look at the reality of the situation. This split in the national organization definitely weakens scouting in America and may well mark the beginning of the end of it. Think about that for a second. A hundred year old force for good in the United States of America may be coming to an end because a bunch of gays and their politically correct enablers got butthurt by being excluded from the group. And got some crooked lawyers to go along with them.

What's that the American general said in Vietnam, that was so absurd that it now fills textbooks as a definition of irony?
"We had to destroy the town to save it" That is what was done here. And the United States of America is a lessor place for it. But you won, so yuck it up and self righteously insult anyone who disagrees with your narrow minded politically correct mantra.
 
2013-09-08 08:32:39 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: These parts of TFA kinda stuck out for me.

"Alan Scheer, 50, a one-time Scoutmaster from Oklahoma who was in attendance at the Trail Life USA conference, said, "I've cried a river since this started. I wanted to be buried in my Scout uniform.
"I couldn't have imagined anything that would ever make me want to take it off again."

and

"I want to have a prominent faith component that will be weaved in every fiber of the program," Stemberger, an Orlando attorney who has reportedly been criticized for professing homophobic beliefs, told NBC News.
"But at the same time, we are not going to become religious and churchy. This is not another church program. This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."

First off, what kind of pathetic ass bag do you have to be to still want to be buried in your scout uniform when you're 50 years old?
Then "prominent faith component" but "not religious or churchy". Which is it? They're kind of mutually exclusive.


I'm always confused by the need of the super religious to have to pray about/during everything. A long-time friend of mine who was 'born again' in his mid-20s was getting married and I was one of his ushers. The only non-fundamentalist evangelical among them. We met in a upper room in the church to get ready and as we were finishing up and just about ready to go down and get ready to begin seating people before the wedding, they wanted to stand in a circle and pray. We were about to participate in a religious wedding and they wanted to pray about it before they did a bunch more praying during the ceremony. I just didn't get it.
 
2013-09-08 08:36:24 PM

Boe: mark12A: Loving the double standard here. It's PERFECTLY alright to have gay males camping, sharing tents, etc. with straight males, but how many of you are perfectly alright with straight males camping, sharing tents, etc. with YOUR teenaged straight daughters?

This is the real world situation. I was a Scouter, and I and my sponsoring organization wanted NOTHING to do with coed Explorer Scout activities because it was like handling dynamite. Shenanigans happened. Frequently.  This is EXACTLY the same situation with mixed straight/gay teenager camping activities. There WILL be shenanigans.  You're asking too much of unpaid volunteers to take on this mess.

The BS will happen, and scout troops will be imploding left and right.

It's exactly the same situation on Navy ships. Bringing women on board has led to endless BS with inappropriate behavior, wrecking careers, and losing some really good military talent because of zipper failure.

Organizations like the military and scouting are not enhanced by introducing sexual tensions, and they are in fact degraded by the same. Mixing sexes and sexual proclivities adds NOTHING of value to these organizations. It is simply disruptive.

But forget all that, IDEOLOGY UBER ALLES!!!!!!

Yep.  They should just allow women and gay men in the military and exclude straight men.  A lot of those issues would go away :-)


So would the rifles explosives and will to fight. Mabey they should just switch to baking cakes.
 
2013-09-08 08:38:01 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?

I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache


Magnum P.I.?
 
2013-09-08 08:38:51 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the right ...


0/10
 
2013-09-08 08:41:10 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the rights of the scouting organization and everyone who is uncomfortable with gays around their kids--they are just going to have to get over themselves and deal with it is the general consensus of this thread.

But look at the reality of the situation. This split in the national organization definitely weakens scouting in America and may well mark the beginning of the end of it. Think about that for a second. A hundred year old force for good in the United States of America may be coming to an end because a bunch of gays and their politically correct enablers got butthurt by being excluded from the group. And got some crooked lawyers to go along with them.

What's that the American general said in Vietnam, that was so absurd that it now fills textbooks as a definition of irony?
"We had to destroy the town to save it" That is what was done here. And the United States of America is a lessor place for it. But you won, so yuck it up and self righteously insult anyone who disagrees with your narrow minded politically correct mantra.


8/10

good material. But a tad on the long side.
 
2013-09-08 08:43:44 PM

HawgWild: Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud

I think it's trying to communicate. What should we do?


i.imgur.com


I'm not gay, but I'm totally in love with you now.
 
2013-09-08 08:48:39 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the right ...




Drunk posting is never good.
 
2013-09-08 08:49:28 PM

Mrtraveler01: Good lord, I'm an Eagle Scout and I think that this was the best decision that the BSA has made lately. These guys are just a bunch of cry babies.

Especially since those stories leaked out of the BSA covering up cases of Scoutmasters sexually abusing young scouts. I wish that these people freaking out about letting gays join would've been just at outraged at the coverups.

But yeah...it's really the gays we really need to worry about.


Apparently adults raping little boys is acceptable as long as said adults go home to their wives and maybe toss them a f*ck once a week.
 
2013-09-08 08:50:27 PM

OhioUGrad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: somedude210: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You know who else had their own youth organization?

NAMBLA?

I was thinking of that guy with the mousetache

Magnum P.I.?


lh6.googleusercontent.com
"mousetache"

/get it?
//co-ed youth organization, too
 
2013-09-08 08:56:39 PM

Jizz Master Zero: For a bunch of guys declaring themselves so "masculine," these guys sure do sound like a bunch of pansies. There needs to be a new phrase for people of this ilk. I'm going with Wah-sculine.


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2013-09-08 08:59:05 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the right ...

But you won, so yuck it up and self righteously insult anyone who disagrees with your narrow minded politically correct mantra.


I'm pretty sure before that term was coined, it was "politically correct" to ostracize and marginalize gays...
 
2013-09-08 09:06:22 PM

Snazzy1: varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the right ...

But you won, so yuck it up and self righteously insult anyone who disagrees with your narrow minded politically correct mantra.

I'm pretty sure before that term was coined, it was "politically correct" to ostracize and marginalize gays...


He does know that the BSA made this call on their own right? (If he's not trolling that is...)

I mean they could've easily kept the gay ban in place if they wanted to. The only reason it got removed was that the leaders (and a bunch of board members) of the BSA made that decision on their own. Even though there were protests, that hasn't stop them from keeping the ban in place before.

I think they lost the moral high ground on this when they started acting like the Catholic Church and covered up sexual abuse cases committed by various Scoutmasters.
 
2013-09-08 09:08:28 PM

Repo Man: varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good. Then along come the gays, with their "it's unfair to us that they keep us out and were gonna sue because we have rights" bullsh*t. And they got the corrupt, out of touch with reality and completely out of political control SCOTUS to go along with them. F*ck the right ...



Drunk posting is never good.


If there'was no drunk posing, there would be no Fark.
 
2013-09-08 09:11:00 PM
Just to point this out, they said in the article they weren't going to be "we are not going to become religious and churchy", but another article states that they are going to require the adult leaders to sign an oath about their Christianity. I am not seeing how this won't be religious and churchy.

If any one is interested: there is a link to Trail Life USA's website.  http://www.traillifeusa.com/ Warning  There is a youtube video pop up window that opens first. it is quite an exciting little ad about the organization.
 
2013-09-08 09:11:06 PM

megarian: If there'was no drunk posing, there would be no Fark.


Appropriate typo
 
2013-09-08 09:11:34 PM

theknuckler_33: Dingleberry Dickwad: These parts of TFA kinda stuck out for me.

"Alan Scheer, 50, a one-time Scoutmaster from Oklahoma who was in attendance at the Trail Life USA conference, said, "I've cried a river since this started. I wanted to be buried in my Scout uniform.
"I couldn't have imagined anything that would ever make me want to take it off again."

and

"I want to have a prominent faith component that will be weaved in every fiber of the program," Stemberger, an Orlando attorney who has reportedly been criticized for professing homophobic beliefs, told NBC News.
"But at the same time, we are not going to become religious and churchy. This is not another church program. This is going to be a masculine outdoor program to raise young men."

First off, what kind of pathetic ass bag do you have to be to still want to be buried in your scout uniform when you're 50 years old?
Then "prominent faith component" but "not religious or churchy". Which is it? They're kind of mutually exclusive.

I'm always confused by the need of the super religious to have to pray about/during everything. A long-time friend of mine who was 'born again' in his mid-20s was getting married and I was one of his ushers. The only non-fundamentalist evangelical among them. We met in a upper room in the church to get ready and as we were finishing up and just about ready to go down and get ready to begin seating people before the wedding, they wanted to stand in a circle and pray. We were about to participate in a religious wedding and they wanted to pray about it before they did a bunch more praying during the ceremony. I just didn't get it.


Because to show their piety, they have to be seen doing rituals (as opposed to actually helping others).  It becomes an arms-race - the guy who prays the loudest, longest, or just generally does the ritualizing more emphatically loves Jesus the most.   They pull an Amen, you pull a Lord's Prayer. He sends you into a nap with his praying, you send him into a coma with yours. *That's* the *Christian* way!  If you go to church on Sunday mornings, they go on Sunday evenings; go on Sunday evenings, and they go on Wednesday; go one Wednesday, and they go on Friday; go on Friday, and they sing in the choir; sing in the choir, and they are on the flower rota; etc  Even heathens might help an old lady with her chores - but only a real Christian will stand there praying for her to receive Jesus into her heart instead.
 
2013-09-08 09:12:38 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: megarian: If there'was no drunk posing, there would be no Fark.

Appropriate typo


;)
 
2013-09-08 09:19:47 PM

Mrtraveler01: I think they lost the moral high ground on this when they started acting like the Catholic Church and covered up sexual abuse cases committed by various Scoutmasters.


IIRC, the BSA has continually claimed that those sexual abuse cases were the reason why it tried to ban gays from scouts in the first place, as they had the very erroneous and bigoted view that only gay men would molest young boys, or even be attracted to them in the first place.
 
2013-09-08 09:19:58 PM

vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.


Still laughing.

+1 'nets
 
2013-09-08 09:26:55 PM

hardinparamedic: Mrtraveler01: I think they lost the moral high ground on this when they started acting like the Catholic Church and covered up sexual abuse cases committed by various Scoutmasters.

IIRC, the BSA has continually claimed that those sexual abuse cases were the reason why it tried to ban gays from scouts in the first place, as they had the very erroneous and bigoted view that only gay men would molest young boys, or even be attracted to them in the first place.


Exactly, I heard the same stuff as well.

Once that story leaked out though, their reasoning behind the ban was shot and all was left was anti-gay bigotry.
 
2013-09-08 09:31:24 PM
"Ok Kiddos, our first field trip is to a Tijuana whorehouse to make men out of you. Some of your might not return. Some of you might wish you haven't made it. But, those who do pull through will have earned the right to call themselves men."
 
2013-09-08 09:33:05 PM

oldtaku: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you reaaaaaallly reaaaaallly care about not getting too close to homosexuals, you've probably got at least a fear of that going on, yes. Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.


while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts.  we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas.  all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?
 
2013-09-08 09:34:42 PM

Prophet of Loss: "Ok Kiddos, our first field trip is to a Tijuana whorehouse to make men out of you. Some of your might not return. Some of you might wish you haven't made it. But, those who do pull through will have earned the right to call themselves men."


those of you that survived will wear your genital herpes as a badge of honor.
 
2013-09-08 09:43:43 PM

hardinparamedic: Prophet of Loss: "Ok Kiddos, our first field trip is to a Tijuana whorehouse to make men out of you. Some of your might not return. Some of you might wish you haven't made it. But, those who do pull through will have earned the right to call themselves men."

those of you that survived will wear your genital herpes as a badge of honor.


I got a rock kid :(
 
2013-09-08 09:48:36 PM

Prophet of Loss: "Ok Kiddos, our first field trip is to a Tijuana whorehouse to make men out of you. Some of your might not return. Some of you might wish you haven't made it. But, those who do pull through will have earned the right to call themselves men."


I joined the wrong cub scout troop, apparently.
 
2013-09-08 09:51:04 PM
/Oglaf threadjack

Mister Peejay: Fairly sure that he died.  He was killed.  He's never coming back.


If you look at the last page of the comic called "Albatross" it looks like the door was left open for him to come back.  I'm open to new storylines but I think Ivan (?) will come back.

/end threadjack
 
2013-09-08 09:54:16 PM

Mimic_Octopus: while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts.  we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas.  all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


You sound like a really annoying person to have along on a backpacking trip.
 
2013-09-08 09:57:42 PM

Wolf_Cub: Just to point this out, they said in the article they weren't going to be "we are not going to become religious and churchy", but another article states that they are going to require the adult leaders to sign an oath about their Christianity. I am not seeing how this won't be religious and churchy.

If any one is interested: there is a link to Trail Life USA's website.  http://www.traillifeusa.com/ Warning  There is a youtube video pop up window that opens first. it is quite an exciting little ad about the organization.


So it's pretty much for Christians only. Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists etc. need not apply.

http://www.traillifeusa.com/who-we-are/values/statement-of-faith-val ue s/

We must have purity! Hur.
 
2013-09-08 10:00:25 PM

HawgWild: Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud

I think it's trying to communicate. What should we do?


Look around you - can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?
 
2013-09-08 10:01:56 PM

Mimic_Octopus: oldtaku: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you reaaaaaallly reaaaaallly care about not getting too close to homosexuals, you've probably got at least a fear of that going on, yes. Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.

while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts.  we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas.  all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


So you want to listen to a bunch of beer bellied weekend warrior-wannabe straight guys lying their asses off?
 
2013-09-08 10:11:53 PM
Poor varmitydog.

He really does have a valid point.

But that "gay agenda" allegation spoils his argument :(

It's like accusing the anti-Jim Crow activists of having a "black agenda".
 
2013-09-08 10:15:34 PM

Mugato: What's manlier than farking a guy in the ass? I sure as hell am not that manly. Come to think of it, receiving would seem more than I could handle as well.


I've always thought that the receiving partner in gay anal sex was a true American Hero, taking one for the team as it were just to ensure pleasure for another man. Here's to you taking it in the ass man.
 
2013-09-08 10:16:20 PM

cc_rider: We must have purity! Hur.


upload.wikimedia.org

I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War. Terror. Disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you and in your panic, you turned to the now High Chancellor Adam Sutler. He promised you order. He promised you peace. And all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.
 
2013-09-08 10:51:14 PM

mark12A: Yep.  They should just allow women and gay men in the military and exclude straight men.  A lot of those issues would go away :-)

Well, it is headed that way. Unfortunately these people will be busy in their sensitivity training classes when the missiles come over the horizon....


Without the straight guys, they won't need those classes. They may need insensitivity training classes.
 
2013-09-08 10:51:57 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.


I read the whole post, and only found two.  I'm guessing the theme is "songs from the 1970's"?  I mean, you really could have tried harder here.
 
2013-09-08 10:58:58 PM
"I wanted to be buried in my Scout uniform."

That is both scary and gay.
 
2013-09-08 11:11:08 PM

hardinparamedic: Prophet of Loss: "Ok Kiddos, our first field trip is to a Tijuana whorehouse to make men out of you. Some of your might not return. Some of you might wish you haven't made it. But, those who do pull through will have earned the right to call themselves men."

those of you that survived will wear your genital herpes as a badge of honor.


Herpes? All the cool kids are catching leprosy
 
2013-09-08 11:16:38 PM

MisterTweak: The uniforms are pretty cool.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 500x288]


Where is that from?  Looks almost familiar but I can't place it.
 
2013-09-08 11:17:01 PM
former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts

And that's where I stopped reading
 
2013-09-08 11:18:10 PM

whatshisname: former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts

And that's where I stopped reading


Really? Dude, you missed the part about the gay sex.
 
2013-09-08 11:18:59 PM

Andyr2120: When these guys knock on my door, I am _not_ buying their cookies!


www.christinaricci.ws
Good thinking.
 
2013-09-08 11:26:41 PM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy.


Yes, yes, we shoved our politically-correct wangs down America's collective throat.  Now suck on it!  Suck on my throbbing, rock-hard wang of non-discrimination and not being a hateful, bigoted assmonger!

You like that, don'tcha?  Yeah, you know you do, baby.


varmitydog:    For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

Yes, yes, the evil homosexual agenda is the subversion of democracy to the horror of all good and true Americans everywhere.  You just keep telling yourself that as you cry yourself to sleep every night.

/I may be laughing myself to sleep tonight.
 
2013-09-08 11:28:07 PM

theknuckler_33: I'm always confused by the need of the super religious to have to pray about/during everything. A long-time friend of mine who was 'born again' in his mid-20s was getting married and I was one of his ushers. The only non-fundamentalist evangelical among them. We met in a upper room in the church to get ready and as we were finishing up and just about ready to go down and get ready to begin seating people before the wedding, they wanted to stand in a circle and pray. We were about to participate in a religious wedding and they wanted to pray about it before they did a bunch more praying during the ceremony. I just didn't get it.


Obviously, you should have prayed for understanding.
 
2013-09-08 11:30:58 PM
We intend to watch, the first homosexual that gets out of line we will press charges as a sex offender. Registered for life. Smoke that pole you freaks.
 
2013-09-08 11:31:02 PM

HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.


They don't. At least, they don't admit it. Their official position according to their web site seems to be in line with the BSA's old position, that having gay sex is immoral and having a permissive attitude towards it makes one a bad influence.
The "gays are all pedophiles" argument only ever gets trodden out by people trying to argue that they're not, for some reason failing to realize they have no one to argue against.
 
2013-09-08 11:40:37 PM

Mimic_Octopus: oldtaku: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you reaaaaaallly reaaaaallly care about not getting too close to homosexuals, you've probably got at least a fear of that going on, yes. Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.

while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts.  we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas.  all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


I think the word you're looking for is "hate."
 
2013-09-08 11:48:15 PM

JonZoidberg: /Oglaf threadjack

Mister Peejay: Fairly sure that he died.  He was killed.  He's never coming back.

If you look at the last page of the comic called "Albatross" it looks like the door was left open for him to come back.  I'm open to new storylines but I think Ivan (?) will come back.

/end threadjack


Goddamn you, made me actually go re-read all the Oglaf stuff again.
 
2013-09-08 11:55:21 PM
I don't understand this whole concept. Are they of the mindset that gay people don't camp. I mean, if gays are anti-masculine and camping is pro-masculine... then gays going camping wouldn't happen, right? I'm just so farking confused by how these people define masculinity or what they think of gays. I mean, I'm gay, but I also go backpacking and camping at least 25-30 days a year Seriously though, could one of you farkers explain this to me, using small words?
 
2013-09-09 12:03:05 AM

ciberido: varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy.

Yes, yes, we shoved our politically-correct wangs down America's collective throat.  Now suck on it!  Suck on my throbbing, rock-hard wang of non-discrimination and not being a hateful, bigoted assmonger!


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-09 12:03:39 AM

firefly212: I don't understand this whole concept. Are they of the mindset that gay people don't camp. I mean, if gays are anti-masculine and camping is pro-masculine... then gays going camping wouldn't happen, right? I'm just so farking confused by how these people define masculinity or what they think of gays. I mean, I'm gay, but I also go backpacking and camping at least 25-30 days a year Seriously though, could one of you farkers explain this to me, using small words?


They think gays are going to burn in the fiery pits of damnation, because their god apparently doesn't have better things to worry about.
And if one of their kids questions his sexuality, and asks his positive male role models and peers about it, they want those positive role models or peers to say "no Jimmy, you shouldn't ask Bobby to the prom, because you'll suffer in eternal hellfire.  Now, go pray for the courage to ask little Suzie out even though you're not attracted to her," thus saving children from Satan's eternal torment.
But, what they absolutely don't want is little Jimmy saying to himself, "gee that older scout in my troop is dating a boy and he's a nice guy.  I guess it's ok for me to date boys too!"  See, because now little Jimmy is going to hell, as are all the members of the BSA, because they turned a blind eye to poor Jimmy's plight and didn't help him battle his homosexual urges, like a good Christian would.
 
2013-09-09 12:04:08 AM

Mimic_Octopus: while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts. we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas. all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


When I go hunting with my father and uncles, we don't sit around the campfire with scotch and talk about killing women, banging elk and reciting Moby Dick.  We pound the scotch straight from the bottle, fire off a couple rounds every so often to keep the bears at bay, make stupid plans to get in the boat at midnight and dive for the halibut with our bare hands.  Sometimes, we actually get in the boat.  We never catch the halibut, seeing as how we're on a lake.

But we leave our boys BACK AT HOME WHERE THEY farkING BELONG.  What cretinous DNA must you have to think a campfire conversation of that kind is anything approaching acceptable with the kids, gay, straight or otherwise?  "Son, since you're 11 now, it's time you learned about the Cleveland Steamer; here's your whiskey..."

We get it, though: you don't "hate" teh ghey, you just find it annoying that there are people who don't relish making the same bad decisions you do.
 
2013-09-09 12:10:37 AM

Mimic_Octopus: oldtaku: atomicmask: So..if you don't want to go camping with homosexuals, you are a closet homosexual

If you reaaaaaallly reaaaaallly care about not getting too close to homosexuals, you've probably got at least a fear of that going on, yes. Real men who are confident in their masculinity aren't threatened by gay guys.

while that is true, it does not mean we want to sit around the campfire sipping scotch and listening to some flaming soprano going on a bout his boyfriends and theater tryouts.  we want to talk about banging women and killing elk and hauling in halibut in 2,000 ft seas.  all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


If you don't like sitting around a campfire sipping scotch, it doesn't mean you're gay, and it doesn't mean you're not gay.
It just means that you're a big, soggy, frilly blouse.

Sorry.
 
2013-09-09 12:10:48 AM

firefly212: I don't understand this whole concept. Are they of the mindset that gay people don't camp. I mean, if gays are anti-masculine and camping is pro-masculine... then gays going camping wouldn't happen, right? I'm just so farking confused by how these people define masculinity or what they think of gays. I mean, I'm gay, but I also go backpacking and camping at least 25-30 days a year Seriously though, could one of you farkers explain this to me, using small words?


No. Words fail to describe this level of derp.  I don't get it, myself.  The 1 gay guy in town during my annual "mancation" is the guy everyone wants to hang out with.

He's the bartender, but still, coolest guy in town and more of a man than any of these clowns could aspire to be.
 
2013-09-09 12:48:34 AM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. .. bunch of self-righteous bullshiat snipped.


Anybody who cries themselves to sleep because the Scouts aren't going to discriminate against gay kids any more is just not right in the head and they deserve to be mocked.

As do you.
 
2013-09-09 01:01:15 AM

vartian: King Something: Definitely not gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys.

You know, if you do that right it can be nine guys blowing nine guys. I never understood why someone had to be left out. Poor guy.


He's enjoying safe sex and whacking off!
 
2013-09-09 01:04:18 AM

FloydA: ciberido: varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy.

Yes, yes, we shoved our politically-correct wangs down America's collective throat.  Now suck on it!  Suck on my throbbing, rock-hard wang of non-discrimination and not being a hateful, bigoted assmonger!

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I will allow you to suck on the Clitoris of Justice and Multiculturalism instead.  But suck gently.
 
2013-09-09 01:17:42 AM

Mimic_Octopus: all this X-phobia stuff is just BS, what is the word for not hating something, just finding it intolerably farking annoying ?


What's a word for someone who pretends things that have never happened to them are super annoying, because they inaccurately believe it to be the typical behavior of a gay person, but they deny they hate gay people?
 
2013-09-09 01:45:21 AM

FormlessOne: ukexpat: vartian: In response to the organization's decision to lift a ban on gay youth earlier this year, former boy scouts convened in Tennessee this weekend to hammer out the nuts-and-bolts of a faith-based alternative.

That's not how hammers work.

That be what them book larnin' folks call a mixed metafur.

Mixed? Damn, given the source, I'm surprised they didn't call it a "mulatto metaphor".


Mulatto, hell--that's such a mixed metaphor it may as well be Melungeon :D  (And yes, I has Melungeon and Southeastern Metis PrivilegeTM to make that joke, kthx :D)

And my commentary is pretty much gonna be this:

a) I see the Southern Baptist wing of the dominionist movement is making a Completely Heterosexual MaleTM equivalent to the American Heritage Girls, which itself was formed when OH NOES THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE GIRL SCOUTS WILL IN FACT ADMIT LESBIANS AND ATHEISTS WITHOUT TELLING THEM THEY ARE FILTHY, FILTHY RAT CREATURES DAMNED TO ETERNAL PERFIDY IN THE BAD PLACE.

b) At least the Royal Rangers and Missionettes (the Assemblies of God's own version of Scouting for Jeebus formed when they decided conventional Scouting was entirely too secular) is somewhat HONEST in admitting it's pretty much a big Dominionistjugend Recruitment Front.  (As others noted, the definition of "not being churchy" in Dominionist Parallel-Economy Alternatives To The Mainline Scouting Movement is a bit Orwellian and is best defined as "Not being an OVERT Altar Call, but still requiring folks to be Good and Proper Dominionists Of The Right Sort Of Religionationalist Bible-Beating Abrahamic Faith".  I expect they give CATHOLICS a hairy eye, much less other People Of The Book (and I dare say that Moslems are Right Out unless they're "Messianic Moslems"--aka neopentecostals who hold their services in Arabic and keep halal but otherwise are not exactly what would be defined as Moslem seeing as Isa is more of a prophet and less of a demigod in Islam) and pretty much forget membership if one is NOT of an Approved Abrahamic FaithTM.)

c) One minor note--pretty much the BSA HAD to eventually drop the gay ban--not just because the tide is slowly but surely starting to turn towards Fairness in the US, but because there were VERY real noises about dropping the BSA from the World Organisation of the Scouting Movement (basically to the BSA as WAGGGS is to Girl Scouts--the world association of all Baden-Powell scouting orgs, much as WAGGGS is the association of all Juliette Low scouting orgs).  They're STILL not exactly happy that the BSA in the US is still one of the very, very few WOSM-accredited scouting orgs that is NOT fully co-ed (a status that is pretty much shared only with a few countries like Saudi Arabia that heavily restrict ANY intersex interaction--and pretty much all of the countries besides the US that lack a co-ed WOSM Scouting org ALSO completely lack a WAGGGS Scouting org for girls because they Highly Disapprove of girls being involved in the international scouting movement at all); the only opportunity for coed Scouting in the US (as far as the WOSM org, being the BSA) is in Venturing and (historically) in the Explorers (which had its non-outdoor-adventure groups split off into Learning for Life--technically a division of the BSA but realistically having little to do with its parent org)--yes, up until the 90s, it WAS in fact possible for someone to be simultaneously in Girl Scouts AND in Boy Scouts via the Explorers).

Basically among most non-religionationalist-Moslem WOSM members, pretty much banning members due to irreligiosity and status as being gay was pretty much the final straw (in that the American BSA is the most exclusionary WOSM member scouting org in the world outside of certain Wahhabist and Twelver Shia-run countries that have strict rules re segregation of the sexes and do not permit girls to enter either WOSM or WAGGGS (or really, any) scouting).  Between US society and WOSM mulling giving their accreditation to some OTHER Baden-Powell scouting org in the US, I can see why they'd Suck It Up and Get Over the anti-gay hate :D

/yes, in general I'm supportive of both of the Two Big international scouting movements (WOSM and WAGGGS) as well as Campfire; you do learn a lot of shiat and have some good formative experiences in both orgs
//DO wish that the Explorers program and Venturing program were better promoted; learning how a commercial television and radio station operated at an Explorers post was FUN :D
///Will note that in general Girl Scouts have better sales offerings though--sorry, Samoas (what the shiat is this Caramel Delite shiat you have in parts of the US) and Do-Si-Dos will always beat Boy Scout Jamboree popcorn and chocolate; I suspect that Little Brownie Bakery must secretly put a mix of black tar heroin, nicotine and crack into the batter
////doesn't hurt that I've also known Girl Scouts working hard to sell cookies so they could go on their yearly camping and amusement park trips.  Y YES I WILL BUY SAMOAS SO YOU CAN GO CAMPING AND GO TO CEDAR POINT SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY :D
 
2013-09-09 02:02:45 AM
And as a note--no, letting Teh Gays in will not destroy the BSA.  Hell, letting girls in won't wreck it; Venturing seems to be doing quite well despite being the one coed branch of the BSA, Explorers did quite well when it was under the BSA umbrella proper (and still does relatively ok now that it's basically its own Junior Cadet Movement under a separate branch of the BSA), and Juliette Low and Baden Powell Scouting movements both seem to be doing quite well in Canada (as the Girl Guides and Scouting Canada respectively).

Both groups actually do have strengths and weaknesses IMHO--BSA DOES tend to be better re wilderness camping than GSA in my experience (though with GSA--and probably with BSA too--this can probably vary WILDLY with the troops involved; there are some GSA troops that do focus on the outdoor adventure stuff).  GSA does have a (well deserved and needed, IMHO) focus on Girl Empowerment, and does seem to be more Open and Affirming as an org than the BSA is (lesbians, transgirls, and atheists are welcome in the GSA, for instance); the BSA does seem to have a stronger bit re frank outdoor adventuring, historically did with job cadet/job training programs (like the Explorers--though GSA IS getting stronger with this in the high school levels; not quite to the point of the old Explorers yet though) and does seem to have more partnerships with stuff like amateur radio clubs.  (This is probably a US thing where there's not been as huge of an interest in getting girls into Sciency Maker Stuff like amateur radio, though.)

Camp Fire has always been its own kind of obscure thing but has actually been pretty darn open and affirming, and probably would have been the best candidate for WOSM recognition if BSA had lost its WOSM membership (Camp Fire, interestingly, started out as the "women's auxillary" of the early Baden-Powell camping movement similarly to the Girl Scouts, but was separate from the Juliette Low scouting movement; it went coed back in 1975 and probably has always been the most progressive of the scouting orgs in the US).  Alas, it's not been quite as popular as Baden-Powell or Juliette Low scouting (there are entire states without a Camp Fire council).
 
2013-09-09 03:23:31 AM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them.


After decades of American fundamentalist bullshiat that the gays and their allies have had to put up with, I'd say they're now entitled to a little bit of harmless gloating. So I have no problem with that.

I also think the right of a gay 15-year-old to not feel like he has to commit suicide to resolve the problem of social ostracism trumps the right of a straight 15-year-old to not have to "worry" about his hiking buddy staring at his bare legs.

Oh, and I read your post, literate that it is, in Jack Nicholson's voice from "A Few Good Men." It was much more entertaining that way.
 
2013-09-09 04:19:47 AM

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Someone's optimistic
 
2013-09-09 04:27:49 AM

varmitydog: In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens.


How do you think that is going to change with openly gay scouts allowed?
 
2013-09-09 04:40:25 AM

Duke_leto_Atredes: We intend to watch


It's polite to ask.
 
2013-09-09 07:44:42 AM

varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them. Yes, I understand, you got a bunch of politically correct Ivy league lawyers on your side and shoved it down America's throat--the very opposite of democracy. For if it was ever put up to a vote, be assured that the majority of Americans would side with the boys scouts and tell the gays to start their own damned gay scouts, if they wanted to be scouts. But of course, they would never allow that. Not only because they would lose in a landslide, but because more importantly there isn't any money for them in doing that, while there is plenty of money in whining about their "rights" and how they are discriminated against.

In my little town, and a whole lot of other little towns across America, the Boy Scouts are a definite force for good. They volunteer as a group on charity drives, they do cleanups, they staff civic functions--and never for pay, but to learn to be good citizens. The kids themselves turn out to be such fine adults that when I was hiring young adult help putting "I was a boy scout" on their application became an automatic hire-- I only had to fire one of over 70 applicants---this where if I was able to keep two of three from the general population I was doing good. They might not be politically correct enough for the gay agenda group, but scouting has been going on for over 100 years and is a time tested method for turning out good citizens. Do the gays have anything that matches this track record? Heck, do they do any good works at all, outside of helping their own group?

So there stands the Boy Scouts, with their sterling reputation for being a force of good.


Good at crushing those who dare tread on their Federal trademark:  http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/articles/bsa.html   Scroll down for your beloved BSA squishing OTHER scouting organizations...perfectly straight ones, to boot.

And since gays got thrown in jail or mental institutions until quite recently, your "100 years" argument is actually downright bigoted.  Kind of like asking former slaves what they've built...in 1880.
 
2013-09-09 08:22:51 AM
They've obviously either never heard of these guys: http://royalrangers.com - or else the RR are too fundamentalist for the Trail Life boys.

Check out the link AG Statement on BSA Resolution, at the bottom of the page.
 
2013-09-09 09:28:05 AM
So Trail Life will become a pale imitation of Boy Scouts with the taint of Christian intolerance and bigotry.  When the boys apply to college it will help them get into glorious institutions like Liberty U and Bob Jones.

Meanwhile, the Boy Scouts are rid of whiny troublemakers (and probably a few pedophiles.)
 
2013-09-09 09:30:46 AM
I feel really bad for the kids that are being pulled out of boyscouts for this.
 
2013-09-09 10:04:43 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Yeah, more like "Treasure Trail Life USA"!

USA = U Sexy Ass


In this case, I think the U stands for Underage.
 
2013-09-09 11:00:31 AM

Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud


0/10

It's like you and logic had a bad breakup and now you won't even be in the same room with him anymore.
 
2013-09-09 11:31:02 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: varmitydog: What a disheartening thread, to read the gloating of the pro gay crowd bashing a group which just does not agree with them.

After decades of American fundamentalist bullshiat that the gays and their allies have had to put up with, I'd say they're now entitled to a little bit of harmless gloating. So I have no problem with that.

I also think the right of a gay 15-year-old to not feel like he has to commit suicide to resolve the problem of social ostracism trumps the right of a straight 15-year-old to not have to "worry" about his hiking buddy staring at his bare legs.

Oh, and I read your post, literate that it is, in Jack Nicholson's voice from "A Few Good Men." It was much more entertaining that way.


Your Jib, old man, I like it's cut.

How Homosexuality and Paedophilia got connected is so beyond me, probably the same jerks who wrote Reefer Madness and similar "True Tales".
 
2013-09-09 11:43:53 AM

prekrasno: They've obviously either never heard of these guys: http://royalrangers.com - or else the RR are too fundamentalist for the Trail Life boys.

Check out the link AG Statement on BSA Resolution, at the bottom of the page.


It's less "too fundamentalist" and more of a case of "too explicitly neopentecostal".

Basically, here's how the hierarchy of Dominionist Alternatives to Legit International Scouting goes:

Assemblies and other neopentes (including "independent" megachurches and the various denominations and paradenominations that are descended from the Assemblies): Royal Rangers for Jesus Camper Boy Scouts, Missionettes for Jesus Camper Girl Scouts.  (Not kidding on the "Jesus Camper" bit, either; "Jesus Camp" was ALSO a kid's Bible camp associated with an Assemblies megachurch.)

Southern Baptist and IRD-steeplejacked mainline, non-neopentecostal dominionists: (now) Trail Life for SBC Dominionist Boy Scouts, American Heritage Girls for SBC Dominionist Girl Scouts.

(This makes a little more sense if you realise that--within dominionist circles, anyways--there IS a bit of an ongoing pissing war between NAR-linked neopente groups on one end and non-neopente (but still very much religionationalist) "Baptist flavoured" dominionists on the other end.  (Christian Reconstructionists fit in a bit weirdly--technically they'd be on the "Baptist flavoured" (really, "ultraconservative Presbyterian") side, but they do have a LOT of common ground with the NARasites.  Ultramontaine Catholics also don't fit in neatly here--they're more "fellow travellers" re social aspects of dominionist religionationalism.)  This has even on occasion led to (SBC-dominionist-controlled) radio programs and websites banishing NARasite hosts when the latter couldn't keep the frank neopente elements of NARasitism under their hat...)
 
2013-09-09 12:12:31 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: HawgWild: I still don't understand why these guys think being gay means you can't keep your hands to yourself.

Because time and again the fudge packers go after young boys, just to show them that it is not bad just different
You makes sick, you infected the blood supply you murdered people. Not all at once but slowly over years. When reasonable request were made to use condoms to just show a little restraint. The Castro went nuts screaming accept us or else wellor else is a lot of dead people and rapped little boys. There was just a summer sports camp were some older homosexual teenagers raped some 9 and 10 year old boys.

Well you came for the kids arnt you proud


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-09-09 02:01:47 PM
ciberido:

I will allow you to suck on the Clitoris of Justice and Multiculturalism instead.  But suck gently.

You're too kind.
 
2013-09-09 03:42:53 PM

Great Porn Dragon: prekrasno: They've obviously either never heard of these guys: http://royalrangers.com - or else the RR are too fundamentalist for the Trail Life boys.

Check out the link AG Statement on BSA Resolution, at the bottom of the page.

It's less "too fundamentalist" and more of a case of "too explicitly neopentecostal".

Basically, here's how the hierarchy of Dominionist Alternatives to Legit International Scouting goes:

Assemblies and other neopentes (including "independent" megachurches and the various denominations and paradenominations that are descended from the Assemblies): Royal Rangers for Jesus Camper Boy Scouts, Missionettes for Jesus Camper Girl Scouts.  (Not kidding on the "Jesus Camper" bit, either; "Jesus Camp" was ALSO a kid's Bible camp associated with an Assemblies megachurch.)

Southern Baptist and IRD-steeplejacked mainline, non-neopentecostal dominionists: (now) Trail Life for SBC Dominionist Boy Scouts, American Heritage Girls for SBC Dominionist Girl Scouts.

(This makes a little more sense if you realise that--within dominionist circles, anyways--there IS a bit of an ongoing pissing war between NAR-linked neopente groups on one end and non-neopente (but still very much religionationalist) "Baptist flavoured" dominionists on the other end.  (Christian Reconstructionists fit in a bit weirdly--technically they'd be on the "Baptist flavoured" (really, "ultraconservative Presbyterian") side, but they do have a LOT of common ground with the NARasites.  Ultramontaine Catholics also don't fit in neatly here--they're more "fellow travellers" re social aspects of dominionist religionationalism.)  This has even on occasion led to (SBC-dominionist-controlled) radio programs and websites banishing NARasite hosts when the latter couldn't keep the frank neopente elements of NARasitism under their hat...)


Translation: the line is drawn at speaking in tongues.
 
2013-09-09 11:28:43 PM

prekrasno: Great Porn Dragon: prekrasno: They've obviously either never heard of these guys: http://royalrangers.com - or else the RR are too fundamentalist for the Trail Life boys.

Check out the link AG Statement on BSA Resolution, at the bottom of the page.

It's less "too fundamentalist" and more of a case of "too explicitly neopentecostal".

Basically, here's how the hierarchy of Dominionist Alternatives to Legit International Scouting goes:

Assemblies and other neopentes (including "independent" megachurches and the various denominations and paradenominations that are descended from the Assemblies): Royal Rangers for Jesus Camper Boy Scouts, Missionettes for Jesus Camper Girl Scouts.  (Not kidding on the "Jesus Camper" bit, either; "Jesus Camp" was ALSO a kid's Bible camp associated with an Assemblies megachurch.)

Southern Baptist and IRD-steeplejacked mainline, non-neopentecostal dominionists: (now) Trail Life for SBC Dominionist Boy Scouts, American Heritage Girls for SBC Dominionist Girl Scouts.

(This makes a little more sense if you realise that--within dominionist circles, anyways--there IS a bit of an ongoing pissing war between NAR-linked neopente groups on one end and non-neopente (but still very much religionationalist) "Baptist flavoured" dominionists on the other end.  (Christian Reconstructionists fit in a bit weirdly--technically they'd be on the "Baptist flavoured" (really, "ultraconservative Presbyterian") side, but they do have a LOT of common ground with the NARasites.  Ultramontaine Catholics also don't fit in neatly here--they're more "fellow travellers" re social aspects of dominionist religionationalism.)  This has even on occasion led to (SBC-dominionist-controlled) radio programs and websites banishing NARasite hosts when the latter couldn't keep the frank neopente elements of NARasitism under their hat...)

Translation: the line is drawn at speaking in tongues.


Actually, a LITTLE bit before the actual speakin'-in-tongues bit (more at the "talking about territorial spirits and smearing Wesson oil the hell all over everything in a sort of territorial pissing for Jeebus and dancin' in church" bit, to be precise) but pretty much this. :D  Was more explaining it without the Cliff's Notes version, but that's probably a good line to draw distinctives (especially if you get into the Methodist groups that have been steeplejacked by dominionists but STILL have a real hairy eyeball towards the whole glossolalia thing).
 
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