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2013-09-08 04:06:29 PM
*glances at tag*

*heavy sigh*

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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 05:18:41 PM
The incident, captured on video

Vandalism and even car smashing are not new. Ticket cameras have needed protective surveillance for many years.
 
2013-09-08 05:32:53 PM
I guess I'm blind because I didn't see it, but it being Florida..........
 
2013-09-08 05:35:07 PM
He who hasn't wanted to also do this shall cast the first stone.
 
2013-09-08 05:35:38 PM
I would make a special bumper attachment to make it easier to wipe out these cameras. Like something on the front of a police car.
 
2013-09-08 05:39:37 PM
A kia optima hit a pole and kept going?

Are they making poles out of feathers these days?
 
2013-09-08 05:41:06 PM

ZAZ: as have needed protective surveillance for many years.


WRONG! Red light cameras have HAD surveillance for years. They don't "need" it.

The Nazis had bulletproof helmets. Didn't stop us or the Russians from doing what needed to be done in Europe.

When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.
 
2013-09-08 05:42:36 PM
doglover:

The cut of your jib.

I like it
 
2013-09-08 05:42:51 PM
"grues"  ??????
 
2013-09-08 05:45:17 PM

doglover: ZAZ: as have needed protective surveillance for many years.

WRONG! Red light cameras have HAD surveillance for years. They don't "need" it.

The Nazis had bulletproof helmets. Didn't stop us or the Russians from doing what needed to be done in Europe.

When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.


That was, beautiful, man
 
2013-09-08 05:45:32 PM
Clearly, oldwolf49 is not an 80s era gamer.


IT IS PITCH BLACK. YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE EATEN BY A GRUE.

>
 
2013-09-08 05:47:11 PM

oldwolf49: "grues"  ??????


oldwolf? More like whippersnapper.

www.gameranx.com

My lawn, get off it.
 
2013-09-08 05:47:33 PM
In the UK, they take this a bit further:

www.wired.com
 
2013-09-08 05:49:11 PM
If anyone digs up information on the driver, please let me know so that I can send him/her a case of beer.
 
2013-09-08 05:52:32 PM
And,in AZ... the Jackboot Mexican Hat Dance...

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2013-09-08 06:23:51 PM
Should have used the "Hero" tag...
 
2013-09-08 06:26:52 PM
In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.
 
2013-09-08 06:26:58 PM

doglover: ZAZ: as have needed protective surveillance for many years.

WRONG! Red light cameras have HAD surveillance for years. They don't "need" it.

The Nazis had bulletproof helmets. Didn't stop us or the Russians from doing what needed to be done in Europe.

When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.


HEAR HEAR!
 
2013-09-08 06:27:07 PM

Wretched: Should have used the "Hero" tag...


Having gotten a $450 ticket for a left turn that entered the intersection 0.2 seconds after the light turned red, I have to agree.
 
2013-09-08 06:37:08 PM

lostcat: Wretched: Should have used the "Hero" tag...

Having gotten a $450 ticket for a left turn that entered the intersection 0.2 seconds after the light turned red, I have to agree.


Yellow means green in your world I guess then - expensive lesson.

I would never ever ever try to run a yellow at a camera intersection, and I haven't gotten a ticket in the 20+ years we've had them. Now getting a ticket from rolling radar in ghost cars.... well that's a different story.
 
2013-09-08 06:38:59 PM

doglover: ZAZ: as have needed protective surveillance for many years.

WRONG! Red light cameras have HAD surveillance for years. They don't "need" it.

The Nazis had bulletproof helmets. Didn't stop us or the Russians from doing what needed to be done in Europe.

When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.


The day people stop running red lights or speeding on residential streets is the day we stop needing these types of cameras. I think they should put them up on every intersection.
 
2013-09-08 06:48:29 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: The day people stop running red lights or speeding on residential streets is the day we stop needing these types of cameras.


We've never needed these kinds of cameras. If everyone is running your red light, it's time to consider the wisdom of the light's programming.

Also if you want to metaphorically rape strangers with a big hairy dick of law to supplement your own personal insecurities and lack of respect in life, don't be passive aggressive about it. Just go to the cops right now and get an application for police academy. Cut out the middle man and rape them yourselves with chickenshiat speed traps and BS goldbricking tickets. All you have to do is some pushups, get pepper sprayed, and take a written exam even a cop can pass.
 
2013-09-08 06:51:56 PM

Oldiron_79: In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.


Jury nullification
 
2013-09-08 06:53:02 PM

sharphead: lostcat: Wretched: Should have used the "Hero" tag...

Having gotten a $450 ticket for a left turn that entered the intersection 0.2 seconds after the light turned red, I have to agree.

Yellow means green in your world I guess then - expensive lesson.

I would never ever ever try to run a yellow at a camera intersection, and I haven't gotten a ticket in the 20+ years we've had them. Now getting a ticket from rolling radar in ghost cars.... well that's a different story.


I had no idea it was a camera intersection. I'd only ever been a passenger at that intersection, and the camera was newly installed. The length of the yellow light had also been reduced since the camera was installed.

I just drove through the same intersection about three months ago and the camera was gone. It was only in place for about two years.
 
2013-09-08 06:54:01 PM

Fano: Oldiron_79: In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.

Jury nullification


If you are guilty, ask for a jury. If you are innocent, ask for a judge.
 
2013-09-08 06:54:18 PM
In Longview they weaselly used eminent domain to stick the camera in a fast food parking lot. Of course it's going to get knocked over, it's in the farking way.

Sitting higher in my truck than the lower slung sedans and compacts around me has saved me from red light runners that were just trying to get through the intersection a little late. I could see that little blue blur before I entered the intersection. The cameras sure as hell didn't stop him from flying through the intersection. If you're really worried about runners I'd suggest cable barriers.
 
2013-09-08 06:59:22 PM

Fano: Oldiron_79: In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.

Jury nullification


Correctamundo. Wish more people understood the concept.
 
2013-09-08 07:42:30 PM

lostcat: The length of the yellow light had also been reduced since the camera was installed.


It's illegal (not to mention incredibly dangerous) to do that, even though it happens regularly with these things. Just saying, if anyone catches that happening, you can sue the crap out of the company and municipality.
 
2013-09-08 07:46:36 PM

Nick Nostril: He who hasn't wanted to also do this shall cast the first stone.


I'd rather not wreck my car.

The thought occurred to me, though, that a moderately powerful laser could be used to damage the image sensor and render the camera inoperable... You could probably rig up a van with a 400-watt CO2 laser and the necessary cooling/power supply equipment.
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-08 07:59:01 PM
As someone who works for a company that installs and maintains surveillance cameras: please vandalize every security camera you see, it's great for business.
 
2013-09-08 08:29:41 PM
Easy solution.  Everyone stop paying the tickets.  What are they going to do, take the licenses away from everyone in the state?

Then the entire state can be full of unlicensed drivers.

/What would Ghandi do?
 
2013-09-08 08:35:49 PM

DubtodaIll: As someone who works for a company that installs and maintains surveillance cameras: please vandalize every security camera you see, it's great for business.


It would be much more cost effective to take out the trucks that install them. Where's your company parking lot located?
 
2013-09-08 09:24:33 PM

jjorsett: DubtodaIll: As someone who works for a company that installs and maintains surveillance cameras: please vandalize every security camera you see, it's great for business.

It would be much more cost effective to take out the trucks that install them. Where's your company parking lot located?


under the nicest cameras you can get
 
2013-09-08 09:34:05 PM

Gunderson: Easy solution.  Everyone stop paying the tickets.  What are they going to do, take the licenses away from everyone in the state?

Then the entire state can be full of unlicensed drivers.

/What would Ghandi do?


Actually, in most states, they don't even try.

I've gotten a few over the years.

I've NEVER paid one.

There are NO penalties for not paying here.
 
2013-09-08 09:55:13 PM

DubtodaIll: As someone who works for a company that installs and maintains surveillance cameras: please vandalize every security camera you see, it's great for business.


I forget, is it against Fark rules to suggest another user kill himself?

You know, kind of like that South Park episode about the slime who sell junk jewelry to old people?
 
2013-09-08 10:09:39 PM

Oldiron_79: In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.


If law enforcement had their way, breathing too loud would be a felony.
The world's population would consist of bastard politicians and cops as the only free people, everyone else would be in jail.
 
2013-09-08 10:17:51 PM
doglover:
When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.

Don't hold back, man.   Please tell us how you really feel.
 
2013-09-08 10:22:11 PM
I don't know why more people aren't burning out the cameras sensors with those green lasers?
 
2013-09-08 11:01:34 PM

FlyingLizardOfDoom: doglover: ZAZ: as have needed protective surveillance for many years.

WRONG! Red light cameras have HAD surveillance for years. They don't "need" it.

The Nazis had bulletproof helmets. Didn't stop us or the Russians from doing what needed to be done in Europe.

When tyranny rises, it is the duty of good men to strike back and drive it down once more. We should be taking down every red light camera, putting them on chains, and then attaching them to the ankles of every politician who voted "Yes" for them and force those bastards to march outside of the city limits dragging their evil machines with them. They can drag 'em till they reach a township that will accept such men or they're eaten by grues.

The day people stop running red lights or speeding on residential streets is the day we stop needing these types of cameras. I think they should put them up on every intersection.


You statement lacks a logical point. If everyone were to follow the law. There would be no revenue from them. Therefore no money to fund them. Within a year or two all cameras would be shutdown. Then everyone would start running redlights again. But the programs would be too costly to start up again.
 
2013-09-09 12:12:15 AM

Smidge204: You could probably rig up a van with a 400-watt CO2 laser and the necessary cooling/power supply equipment.


It'd be cheaper just to take the pole down with the van and abandon it afterwards.
 
2013-09-09 03:18:22 AM

phenn: Fano: Oldiron_79: In TN its a farking felony to take out one of those evil things.

Jury nullification

Correctamundo. Wish more people understood the concept.


Unless you get booted out of jury duty because you admit that you firmly believe that jury nullification is an important part of the "checks and balances" system to prevent the government from imposing overbearing or oppressive laws on the citizenry.

/yes...i did.
 
2013-09-09 04:23:32 AM

cgremlin: It'd be cheaper just to take the pole down with the van and abandon it afterwards.


But would it be as effective? It's not clear how monitored the cameras are. A missing pole is very obvious, and the act of taking the pole out very conspicuous. A CO2 laser is invisible, and even if it wasn't nobody would see it unless you shot them in the face... a camera with a burnt sensor might not be noticed for weeks.
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-09 04:31:55 AM

Smidge204: cgremlin: It'd be cheaper just to take the pole down with the van and abandon it afterwards.

But would it be as effective? It's not clear how monitored the cameras are. A missing pole is very obvious, and the act of taking the pole out very conspicuous. A CO2 laser is invisible, and even if it wasn't nobody would see it unless you shot them in the face... a camera with a burnt sensor might not be noticed for weeks.
=Smidge=


The camera would go out with the last image being your van, including the plates.
 
2013-09-09 09:12:02 AM

DarkVader: DubtodaIll: As someone who works for a company that installs and maintains surveillance cameras: please vandalize every security camera you see, it's great for business.

I forget, is it against Fark rules to suggest another user kill himself?

You know, kind of like that South Park episode about the slime who sell junk jewelry to old people?


I mean I suppose it's fine to suggest it.  Though why you'd want someone who is undermining the nefarious nature of the system from within the system to kill themselves is beyond me.  I will say our company has not been involved in any red light camera installation as the city does all of their own cameras in house.  If you're looking for the cheapest way to render a camera inoperable it would be some sugar water on the lens or something akin to that.  Doesn't actually damage the camera but it makes the camera useless until it's cleaned.
Furthermore, if a surveillance system is installed correctly, and the users are trained correctly, and the capabilities of the system are explained to the employees correctly, the system always improves business. I've got tons of research to back that up as well.   Also, 80% of the time these days there isn't someone getting paid to sit around and watch camera feeds, that's just not something that happens very often. In most cases, the head of security or the owner of the property may check in on cameras from time to time to see how things are running, there generally isn't someone who is watching you work or what you're doing.  I'm not a proponent of public surveillance as there are lots of laws pertaining to that kind of thing as far as a private enterprise is concerned.  For example if we have a camera view that has public land in the FOV, then we blur out the area that is public land or else we could be sued at some point.   It doesn't seem like the state has to worry about those laws though, which is regrettable.
 
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