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4767 clicks; posted to Sports » on 08 Sep 2013 at 2:26 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-09-09 09:17:05 AM  
I have no problem with the block, I have a problem with these a-holes who make YouTube videos with super slow replays, and show the thing over and over and over. Jesus, the replay on the original was fine, I didn't need to see it at 3 frames per second afterwards...
 
2013-09-09 10:17:23 AM  

Mikey1969: I have no problem with the block, I have a problem with these a-holes who make YouTube videos with super slow replays, and show the thing over and over and over. Jesus, the replay on the original was fine, I didn't need to see it at 3 frames per second afterwards...


I would have no problem with the block if it was in the spirit if the game but since it was obvious retaliation for this wr getting an interception earlier.
 
2013-09-09 01:19:38 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The defenseless player rule is also overly broad. It includes players in the process of catching a pass as well as anyone who isn't looking where a block is coming from. One of the key ways defensive secondary players create turnovers is by hitting at the moment someone is catching a pass, IMO anyone with the ball shouldn't be considered defenseless. Also, blind side blocks are too vague. It's the duty of the player running down the field to make sure he's aware of what is going on around him. Penalizing hits against those players just rewards inattentive play.


Never understood the whole "he wasn't looking! He was defenseless!" argument.

When I was a kid playing youth hockey I was told that if I got caught in a corner with my head down staring at the puck then I pretty much deserved what I was going to get. Which was exactly what happened the first time I got checked, resulting in me being helped off the ice after they scraped me off the boards and ice. Coach didn't yell at the ref for no whistle, he yelled at me for doing what I was told not to do. I wasn't defenseless, I was stupid.

Keep your head up. Your neck lets it rotate a good bit for a reason.
 
2013-09-09 02:14:39 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The Flexecutioner: watch the facemask.  it moves to the left before any other thing from both angles.  pause it and check as many times as you need.  it's not even in question.  many will try to write it off as some technical thing but my connection is good and the quality is high.  it's very clear.  if had been shoulder to chest his jersey and pads would move first but they don't.

In the slo-mo you can sort of see the facemask move first, but that could just be because the head has it's own pivot point (the neck) and moved faster than the rest of his body recoiled.   The defender's helmet isn't anywhere near the guys helmet as he makes the hit, and the front angle shows him leading with the shoulder pretty clearly.


either you are blind or just diggin in yer heals on this but the helmets are right beside each other from the get go. i tried to get just the right pause for this screenie but this is just a split second after the helmets touched first.

pretty clear indeed.

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helmettohelmet by mechajebzilla, on Flickr
 
2013-09-09 02:51:37 PM  

The Flexecutioner: either you are blind or just diggin in yer heals on this but the helmets are right beside each other from the get go. i tried to get just the right pause for this screenie but this is just a split second after the helmets touched first.


Yep, Bell's head was clearly lowered and leaning in to the block.  Oh, no, wait.  It's not.  he's leaning his head away from the play.  By your logic, Smith should have had the penalty called on him for attempting to counter the block with a vicious headbutt.
 
2013-09-09 03:20:49 PM  

The Flexecutioner: TuteTibiImperes: The Flexecutioner: watch the facemask.  it moves to the left before any other thing from both angles.  pause it and check as many times as you need.  it's not even in question.  many will try to write it off as some technical thing but my connection is good and the quality is high.  it's very clear.  if had been shoulder to chest his jersey and pads would move first but they don't.

In the slo-mo you can sort of see the facemask move first, but that could just be because the head has it's own pivot point (the neck) and moved faster than the rest of his body recoiled.   The defender's helmet isn't anywhere near the guys helmet as he makes the hit, and the front angle shows him leading with the shoulder pretty clearly.

either you are blind or just diggin in yer heals on this but the helmets are right beside each other from the get go. i tried to get just the right pause for this screenie but this is just a split second after the helmets touched first.

pretty clear indeed.

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helmettohelmet by mechajebzilla, on Flickr


The part of Bell's body that, to me, appears to be farthest left, is his shoulder.
 
2013-09-09 03:23:13 PM  

The Flexecutioner: watch the facemask.  it moves to the left before any other thing from both angles.  pause it and check as many times as you need.  it's not even in question.  many will try to write it off as some technical thing but my connection is good and the quality is high.  it's very clear.  if had been shoulder to chest his jersey and pads would move first but they don't.


The slo-mo video is useless for two reasons. First, because it is clearly full of artifacts that make impossible to tell what happened, and second because it is from entirely the wrong angle. You would never be able to tell what was happening from that angle.

The prior shot is more useful... If you watch the video at 0:46 you can clearly see Bell lower his shoulder and put his SHOULDER into the chest of the other guy. Then you see the guys head snap down towards Bell and hit Bell's helmet. This could ONLY happen if the other guys body was hit VERY hard, causing the body to stop while the head continues with its forward momentum. If the head was impacted FIRST, then the HEAD would be what stopped and the BODY would be the part that continued for a moment before stopping and reversing direction, and there would be no head-snap downfield. It is completely evident from that section of the video that it was shoulder to shoulder/chest, followed by incidental helmet to helmet due to a good hit done in the legally mandated manner, which is front of the body contact only, no blocks from the back or side. The other guy was running forward while looking hard to the left. That left him vulnerable to a big hit, but that is, quite frankly, his own damn fault. If you can't maintain good situational awareness then you shouldn't be playing football at this level.
 
2013-09-09 03:55:15 PM  
You call that retaliation?  This was retaliation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo

Just a heads up on size comparisons

Kenny Bell:   6'1" 185
Devin Smith:  5'11" 186

Chris Borland:  5'11" 246
Taylor Martinez:  6'1" 210
 
2013-09-09 03:57:08 PM  
I saw the hit in person, it was vicious, but legal.  The referee waited until the receiver crossed the goal line before he threw the flag, long after the block, but right about the time Devin Smith started writhing and Brett Bielema started crying.
 
2013-09-09 04:49:42 PM  

Bad Man Jose: You call that retaliation?  This was retaliation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo

Just a heads up on size comparisons

Kenny Bell:   6'1" 185
Devin Smith:  5'11" 186

Chris Borland:  5'11" 246
Taylor Martinez:  6'1" 210


Yes and one was more vicious simply because he was traveling full speed, the throw down, while appearing bad was not nearly as bad than the full out hit on a man running at an angle.

Bad Man Jose: I saw the hit in person, it was vicious, but legal.  The referee waited until the receiver crossed the goal line before he threw the flag, long after the block, but right about the time Devin Smith started writhing and Brett Bielema started crying.


Yeah, thats a complete lie, the ref on the sidelines threw his flag the second the play happened and there is doubt he had the best view of the play other than the two players.

Slow To Return: The part of Bell's body that, to me, appears to be farthest left, is his shoulder.


People arguing head shot are being crazy, head shot or not the refs, for the past few years, have been calling any extremely hard hit middle of the chest up since medical reports came out saying those do a ton of damage.

Keep arguing these plays are legal and we will not have a sport to cheer for in the very near future, all it takes are a few lawsuits because of injuries to make insurance companies no longer want to cover the teams and its done.
 
2013-09-09 05:09:43 PM  
after viewing the slo mo, i can see someone saying he launched himself or there was some helmet to helmet...but

it looked to me like the the guy who got crushed could 'blow his own horn' or give himself a rim job.
 
2013-09-09 06:14:26 PM  

steamingpile: Bad Man Jose: You call that retaliation?  This was retaliation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo

Just a heads up on size comparisons

Kenny Bell:   6'1" 185
Devin Smith:  5'11" 186

Chris Borland:  5'11" 246
Taylor Martinez:  6'1" 210

Yes and one was more vicious simply because he was traveling full speed, the throw down, while appearing bad was not nearly as bad than the full out hit on a man running at an angle.

Bad Man Jose: I saw the hit in person, it was vicious, but legal.  The referee waited until the receiver crossed the goal line before he threw the flag, long after the block, but right about the time Devin Smith started writhing and Brett Bielema started crying.

Yeah, thats a complete lie, the ref on the sidelines threw his flag the second the play happened and there is doubt he had the best view of the play other than the two players.



I suppose that's why at the 50 second mark, the ref runs right past the play watching the TD.  No yellow on the field in any part of that video except when the ref makes the announcement.  Were you there? If your view is this video, then you have nothing.
 
2013-09-10 12:05:20 AM  

Bad Man Jose: steamingpile: Bad Man Jose: You call that retaliation?  This was retaliation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=xAdFvKOuMHo

Just a heads up on size comparisons

Kenny Bell:   6'1" 185
Devin Smith:  5'11" 186

Chris Borland:  5'11" 246
Taylor Martinez:  6'1" 210

Yes and one was more vicious simply because he was traveling full speed, the throw down, while appearing bad was not nearly as bad than the full out hit on a man running at an angle.

Bad Man Jose: I saw the hit in person, it was vicious, but legal.  The referee waited until the receiver crossed the goal line before he threw the flag, long after the block, but right about the time Devin Smith started writhing and Brett Bielema started crying.

Yeah, thats a complete lie, the ref on the sidelines threw his flag the second the play happened and there is doubt he had the best view of the play other than the two players.


I suppose that's why at the 50 second mark, the ref runs right past the play watching the TD.  No yellow on the field in any part of that video except when the ref makes the announcement.  Were you there? If your view is this video, then you have nothing.


You do realize this is just one camera angle and there is more than one ref on the field, right?

I watched the train wreck of a game that was and this hit was illegal in terms of hitting a player in the shoulder area and above which is where the NCAA rules state which include any part of the player hitting that area and above. Sorry but you're wrong, it was illegal and a flag was thrown almost immediately after it happened, now the flag may have hit the ground after he crossed the goal line but quit acting stupid and saying he waited till they scored then tossed the flag. Nebraska had no shot in that game anyway, it was over and their defense sucked. They especially try to protect defensive backs since they make up 35% of the head/concussion injuries every year. The hit was illegal read the link and quit acting like it wasn't.

Oh here's the rule changes in case all of you still doubt the validity of the call.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News / 2010+news+stories/October/A+primer+on+NCAA+rules+for+football+safety
 
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