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(Zap2It)   What to draw for DC Comics? Better polish up those naked Harley Quinn suicide poses   (blog.zap2it.com) divider line 64
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2013-09-08 02:47:37 AM  
Oh, my God! >_<
 
2013-09-08 08:10:07 AM  
God dammit! Why won't DC make a contest for drawing of the Joker ripping a fetus out of a woman's womb and wearing it like a condom to anally penetrate Robin? I've got a shiat load of those drawings to get rid of .
 
2013-09-08 08:54:31 AM  
Motherfarkers need to lighten up. There are far better reasons to hate DC. Also, really? This is the straw for some of these tumblr users? This is what they make their last stand over? HA
 
2013-09-08 08:59:33 AM  
Sandy vaginas unite!
 
2013-09-08 09:05:21 AM  
Would people prefer that she was sitting in the bathtub fully clothed? Doesn't seem realistic to me.
 
2013-09-08 09:06:17 AM  

Ghastly: God dammit! Why won't DC make a contest for drawing of the Joker ripping a fetus out of a woman's womb and wearing it like a condom to anally penetrate Robin? I've got a shiat load of those drawings to get rid of .


Because the Joker hasn't nailed Batman yet, in cannon continuity anyway. Somebody like the Joker would want to start at the top and work his way down. Also, depending on the time Robin might be a chick.
 
2013-09-08 09:06:21 AM  
Thats some real rule 34 shiat right there.
 
2013-09-08 09:13:41 AM  

abhorrent1: Sandy vaginas unite!


Indeed.

Bathtub suicide is not "sexualized" suicide.  It's very common trope.  Nudity =\= sexy.

Prudish luddites.
 
2013-09-08 09:17:22 AM  
Silly, morbid, shocking. Sounds right in character for her. What's the big deal and where are the entries?
 
2013-09-08 09:29:22 AM  
I need to see the entries before I get outraged/engorged.
 
2013-09-08 09:34:07 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Would people prefer that she was sitting in the bathtub fully clothed? Doesn't seem realistic to me.


omeganuepsilon: Bathtub suicide is not "sexualized" suicide.  It's very common trope.  Nudity =\= sexy.


And remember, being naked in a bathtub is not just sexual, it's "blatantly" sexual.

/then again, as far as I am concerned, anything with Harley is sexualized...
//and no, I'm not saying I have a problem with that
 
2013-09-08 09:38:32 AM  
People are weird. Suicide in comics is bad. But MURDER? Murder is totally cool.

/I like comics.
 
2013-09-08 09:42:30 AM  
Due to "political correctness", pretty soon all comics will look like this:

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
(hot)
 
2013-09-08 09:45:17 AM  
And yet, most of these artists are probably perfectly fine with the typical "art" of women with 56-21-40 proportions in no clothes or skin-tight outfits.
 
2013-09-08 09:56:18 AM  
This is the moment DeviantArt was created for.  DC has no idea what they just go themselves into.
 
2013-09-08 10:04:41 AM  
Am I missing something? It seems like there's a competition to see who can be the most offended.
 
2013-09-08 10:06:13 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: And yet, most of these artists are probably perfectly fine with the typical "art" of women with 56-21-40 proportions in no clothes or skin-tight outfits.


Wait, what? It looks like those numbers give a waist-to-hip ratio of barely 0.5; 0.7 is the universal standard for "not-a-boner-killer."
 
2013-09-08 10:07:31 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: whizbangthedirtfarmer: And yet, most of these artists are probably perfectly fine with the typical "art" of women with 56-21-40 proportions in no clothes or skin-tight outfits.

Wait, what? It looks like those numbers give a waist-to-hip ratio of barely 0.5; 0.7 is the universal standard for "not-a-boner-killer."


The alternative is that they have tiny breasts. At which point I know you're just trolling.
 
2013-09-08 10:22:37 AM  

omeganuepsilon: Bathtub suicide is not "sexualized" suicide. It's very common trope. Nudity =\= sexy.


You know, I think I've got to go with this one. I was disgusted when I heard the news initially, but if these are the actual rules of the contest, I'm going to have to reverse my position: this is not a reasonable thing to call "sexualizing suicide." People do not commit suicide in the bathtub with clothes on, yet there is nothing sexy about it. The rules of the contest also make very clear that this is not Harley Quinn's first choice of method: it's one she has chosen only after other methods, the choices of which are considerably more in-character, have failed comically (a fact which is also in-character).

That said, two points:
1) Why is Harley Quinn choosing to commit suicide in the first place? This is not in character, regardless of the events which follow.
2) Despite the fact that this is not sexualizing suicide, it is true that the target audience will, by and large, treat it as sexy. But this would be true even if she were clothed, and in fact it would be true even if she were wearing her old all-concealing costume. Since it cannot be escaped -such is the mind and libido of the early-teenage male- why is it a thing to worry over?
 
2013-09-08 10:31:08 AM  

Millennium: omeganuepsilon: Bathtub suicide is not "sexualized" suicide. It's very common trope. Nudity =\= sexy.

You know, I think I've got to go with this one. I was disgusted when I heard the news initially, but if these are the actual rules of the contest, I'm going to have to reverse my position: this is not a reasonable thing to call "sexualizing suicide." People do not commit suicide in the bathtub with clothes on, yet there is nothing sexy about it. The rules of the contest also make very clear that this is not Harley Quinn's first choice of method: it's one she has chosen only after other methods, the choices of which are considerably more in-character, have failed comically (a fact which is also in-character).

That said, two points:
1) Why is Harley Quinn choosing to commit suicide in the first place? This is not in character, regardless of the events which follow.
2) Despite the fact that this is not sexualizing suicide, it is true that the target audience will, by and large, treat it as sexy. But this would be true even if she were clothed, and in fact it would be true even if she were wearing her old all-concealing costume. Since it cannot be escaped -such is the mind and libido of the early-teenage and basement-dwelling cheeto-dust-covered male- why is it a thing to worry over?


FTFY
 
2013-09-08 10:38:26 AM  
Hey, Harley was always a lesbian, and since DC won't let her get married, this is a logical outcome for such a tortured soul.  Sad really.
 
2013-09-08 10:43:51 AM  
Well, yes, the basement dwellers too, but I'm not sure anyone targets that market deliberately. Part of the reason basement-dwelling manchildren creep people out so much is that their psychology is so out of phase with their actual lives, closely (but never completely) matching any of a surprising array of completely demographics.

They also prevent a trap that creators have to be careful not to fall into, because the psychology is never a complete match. Switch to targeting them, and you'll turn off your original demographic. Not only that, but some of the basement-dwellers have enough insight to detect the change, and so you'll create a schism in your remaining fanbase. Franchises don't survive that kind of one-two punch.
 
2013-09-08 10:44:37 AM  
PROVIDE, not prevent. FTFM.
 
2013-09-08 10:49:16 AM  
dammit, I came for DC Comics chick porn, I am seriously disappointed.
 
2013-09-08 11:05:11 AM  
Hopefully the tub is filled with puddin'
 
2013-09-08 11:06:26 AM  
The description of the panels makes it sound as sexy as "The Bunny Suicides."

/i'll.... I'll be in my bunk
 
2013-09-08 11:08:24 AM  
Cristina Stewart sure gets butt hurt when her name is misspelled, and why is Ellen Degeneris doing a "Have a seat over there" pose on the ad on the side?
 
2013-09-08 11:21:09 AM  

Kit Fister: dammit, I came for DC Comics chick porn, I am seriously disappointed.


^This
 
2013-09-08 11:25:11 AM  
Dunno, the descriptions sound like a challenge. I definitely have an image in my head of Harley with the gators.

/the joke's on me
 
2013-09-08 11:55:41 AM  

BafflerMeal: Hey, Harley was always a lesbian, and since DC won't let her get married, this is a logical outcome for such a tortured soul.  Sad really.


25.media.tumblr.com

/TVTropes has some interesting background on the show's battle with the censors over Poison Ivy and Harley's "partnership."
 
2013-09-08 11:57:17 AM  

omeganuepsilon: abhorrent1: Sandy vaginas unite!

Indeed.

Bathtub suicide is not "sexualized" suicide.  It's very common trope.  Nudity =\= sexy.

Prudish luddites.


There's no technology angle here.  I think the phrase you're looking for is "prudish Philistines".
 
2013-09-08 12:12:52 PM  

Ghastly: God dammit! Why won't DC make a contest for drawing of the Joker ripping a fetus out of a woman's womb and wearing it like a condom to anally penetrate Robin? I've got a shiat load of those drawings to get rid of .


I cannot believe that you would draw such a thing.  Where the hell is the tentacle monster?
 
2013-09-08 12:14:49 PM  
Meh. It's DC. Death is an annoyance at worst.
 
2013-09-08 12:20:01 PM  
Don't these kinds of drawings normally trigger cease-and-desist notices?
 
2013-09-08 01:04:35 PM  
DC:
"Fine, fine, we'll cancel that.  Instead, we want naked poses of Harley Quinn being hung or otherwise strangled to death.  But it can't be a suicide, it has to be by another person."
 
2013-09-08 01:19:09 PM  

Khellendros: luddites


Meh, either way, they want to stick to the old conservative ways, don't welcome the new.  Discontent over something new and liberating, see it as a threat.

Luddite works as a general title for that perception of a threat from something new, be it new technology, or new societal attitudes.
 
2013-09-08 02:14:38 PM  
Hey, look. Outrage over something completely out of context.

Admittedly, DC comics has been shooting themselves in the foot with a few large bullets lately, but this really doesn't strike me as one of the bloodier wounds. There's no real context for the scenes requested, and there's of course little to no chance that the character *is* committing suicide in the first issue of a solo ongoing comic. I'd say there was no chance, but, hey, it's comics. They do that kind of thing all the time.

When a friend told me about this the other day, with a bit of outrage, I was in what seemed like the odd position of defending DC. Thanks to other missteps by the company lately, mainly in its treatment of creators and exercise of last-minute editorial control over stories (See Gail Simone's problems with Batgirl, the recent Batwoman debacle, etc.) I would probably drop all my comic pulls if I weren't worried about my struggling local comic shop. This kind of scene/act/etc. for Harley is actually in character with her recent (post "New 52") appearances given that her only real interaction with the Joker was one that ended with him tossing her aside.

My personal take on it as the "outrage-free comic nerd" is basically this. DC's taken things to a bit of an extreme lately, and Harley did get somewhat tarted up in the process. Do I think it's a particularly good take on the character? Actually... it's growing on me, the writers have made it work. But it shows a degree of tone-deafness at DC editorial that I think needs to be addressed, though not with outrage. More a semi-polite "Knock if off."
 
2013-09-08 02:23:02 PM  
This was stupid and will result in additional Corporate interference with Editorial, which always makes everything better.
 
2013-09-08 02:26:27 PM  
Came to this thread for naked Harley Quinn suicides.  Leaving disappointed.
 
2013-09-08 02:46:31 PM  
I'm outraged that they only wanted her naked in one out of the four panels.
 
2013-09-08 03:02:05 PM  
The panel descriptions aren't really what I picture for the character, but those pale in comparison to the whole makeover that has turned her into a Suicide Girl with egg-white skin. All the charm is gone from Harley, and now she's just another DC tart.
 
2013-09-08 03:20:05 PM  
The next time I hear someone say trigger warning I'm going to set them on fire
 
2013-09-08 03:27:40 PM  

Sgt Otter: BafflerMeal: Hey, Harley was always a lesbian, and since DC won't let her get married, this is a logical outcome for such a tortured soul.  Sad really.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 497x750]

/TVTropes has some interesting background on the show's battle with the censors over Poison Ivy and Harley's "partnership."


Clearly there is some misinformation going around about marriage.  You GET married to be a tortured soul, not the other way around.
 
2013-09-08 03:39:49 PM  
More like Hairy Quim amirite?
www.wallsave.com
 
2013-09-08 04:29:41 PM  

Sgt Otter: BafflerMeal: Hey, Harley was always a lesbian, and since DC won't let her get married, this is a logical outcome for such a tortured soul.  Sad really.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 497x750]

/TVTropes has some interesting background on the show's battle with the censors over Poison Ivy and Harley's "partnership."


I don't see why. They're villains. Villains always get to do things no one else can.
 
2013-09-08 04:55:14 PM  
Harley Quinn Halloween costumes look good this year.  Just sayin'
www.spirithalloween.com
 
2013-09-08 04:56:18 PM  
Ghastly:
God dammit! Why won't DC make a contest for drawing of the Joker ripping a fetus out of a woman's womb and wearing it like a condom to anally penetrate Robin? I've got a shiat load of those drawings to get rid of .

Don't lower yourself.  They should be working for YOU.
 
2013-09-08 07:10:24 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: The next time I hear someone say trigger warning I'm going to set them on fire


So what you're saying is "trigger warning" is a trigger for you? Man, someone needs to warn you.
 
2013-09-08 07:42:16 PM  
Some of the backlash is hilarious. Harley Quinn is basically a sex object, not much more, but now that they really went over the line with it, everyone is pretending comics shouldn't be sexualized, how dare you, etc. The reboot version is one of the sluttiest characters I've ever seen. I mean, yeah, this is kind of crossing a line, but comics weren't doing that great before this either.
 
2013-09-08 08:04:54 PM  
I suppose the headline works, but I think that "What" is supposed to be a "Want."
 
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