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(Reuters)   Another porn star diagnosed with HIV. Who could have seen this coming?   (reuters.com) divider line 42
    More: Misc, HIV, Mikey Weinstein, porn actors, Free Speech Coalition, AIDS Healthcare Foundation, board of supervisors  
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2013-09-08 03:08:33 AM  
4 votes:
Meanwhile.. On the internet

img2.joyreactor.cc
2013-09-08 03:57:01 AM  
3 votes:
"But I'm really sad for our community, that we're treating these people as utterly disposable."

Since when have porn performers been anything other than disposable? You don't get into porn when you have better options.
2013-09-08 06:33:21 AM  
2 votes:

Boo_Guy: robohobo: [www.porn.com image 625x500]
[mimg.ugo.com image 786x1001]
[cbs1059sunnyfm.files.wordpress.com image 273x465]

/you guys are lazy

Too bad her carpets don't match the drapes.


Hello going Brazilian.

I have to admit though it's kinda hot when a woman with a completely unnatural hair color upstairs (like say pink, blue, or green) dyes hair downstairs to match.
2013-09-08 05:56:41 AM  
2 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: This gives me a sad as I enjoy porn and I think the industry is being run by complete shiatheads who could easily prevent a lot of this but are too farking cheap/scumbag capitalist to do so.


No, they just dont care. They're are not stupid. They are predators. They profit regardless of the help dying- there are more each day, waiting.
2013-09-08 05:49:50 AM  
2 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: Redheads are discriminated against in a lot of places, so we "get" them. Plus redheads have a reputation for being tigers in bed.


Makes sense. I myself have no issue with redheads, I care more about if they are hot or not. Myself, I prefer brunettes and "raven" haired chicks. Hot redheads over blondes though, blondes are boring to me. Then again, all that matters is if they are attractive.
2013-09-08 04:47:35 AM  
2 votes:
Coming soon! AIDS-only porn! They only got tonight, so they fark like there's no tomorrow
2013-09-08 04:07:24 AM  
2 votes:

Wolf892: I bet less porn stars have contracted HIV than US soldiers have died overseas in the last 2 years...
Jobs have risks. Everyone knows what they are.
The day we decide to ban war because a soldier got killed is the day I agree to ban porn because someone got HIV.


Far less porn stars contract STDs than the population at large. You are seriously safer boinking a porn star than a random hookup in a bar.
2013-09-08 03:54:13 AM  
2 votes:

walrusonion: styckx: Meanwhile.. On the internet

[img2.joyreactor.cc image 850x1263]

Faye Reagan has vag warts and a drug problem.


It's probably easy to just say she's a porn star. The rest is redundant.
2013-09-08 03:23:32 AM  
2 votes:
Wasn't it a couple of years ago, a girl got HIV from a double an4l scene.

Her agent didn't tell her it was DA, she paid for her own airfare to set and the pr0n company wouldn't pay her until she did DA. Anyway, she says she ended up spending more money than she made for the shoot when she had to go to the doctor as a result of damage she suffered from the scene.

The source of the HIV turned out to be a male pr0nstar who got HIV from non-pr0n sex in Brazil.

// Lots of bad decisions right there.
2013-09-08 12:51:14 AM  
2 votes:
Hard to see it with all that jizz in your eye.
2013-09-08 12:29:18 AM  
2 votes:
I see what you did there
2013-09-08 02:36:55 PM  
1 votes:

mr0x: The source of the HIV turned out to be a male pr0nstar who got HIV from non-pr0n sex in Brazil.


"Porn." Just type it, "porn."

"Pr0n" has never fooled any filter, anywhere.
2013-09-08 02:28:02 PM  
1 votes:

KierzanDax: likefunbutnot: <Informative and incredibly detailed post>

My gods, you're like Wikipornia. I bow to your knowledge.

Also, for sites, I'd add "NudeVista". It's a porn search engine. For instance, type in Fark's favorite porn type "midget" and it will display links for midget porn on numerous sites.


All you need is TBLOP - The Big List of Porn.
2013-09-08 01:05:37 PM  
1 votes:

styckx: Meanwhile.. On the internet

[img2.joyreactor.cc image 850x1263]


img11.imageshack.us

Best. Combo. Evar.
2013-09-08 12:47:24 PM  
1 votes:

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Crotchrocket Slim: bigbobowski: Crotchrocket Slim: This gives me a sad as I enjoy porn and I think the industry is being run by complete shiatheads who could easily prevent a lot of this but are too farking cheap/scumbag capitalist to do so.

they do because "This gives me a sad as I enjoy porn" insist on bare back porn. this industry supplies like every other, what the consumer demands.

Not me personally, I honestly am fine with condoms worn in porn. I'm really surprised that didn't catch on.

I'm surprised that by now they can't just be used and digitally erased.  Couldn't all male actors have a very high-res 3D model made of their wangs in all states of hardness and angles relative to the abdomen, and then just green-screen that shiat on a green condom?  A lower-tech version could just involve using very clear condoms and air-brushing away the ring at the base, although that would require shooting around the parts where it comes on and off.


Porn generally can't afford anything that adds additional expense. Profits are on razor thin margins and you'd be taking about adding a while extra layer of production middlemen. There might be some kind of compromise with a low visibility condom but frankly everyone just needs to suck it up (ha!) and realize that people who have sex in anything less than fluid-bonded monogamy probably need to use protection all the time. If that breaks your immersion, or you can't get off until you see a cream pie, you'll get over it out you'll find some other way to get your fix. Either way, nobody should have to risk their life to make sure you can have a boner.
2013-09-08 12:35:58 PM  
1 votes:
This is not a problem with Hentai
2013-09-08 11:31:02 AM  
1 votes:
My Favorites:
Stephanie Renee (Sedora)
img1.glamourbabe.info
Marie McCray
www4.pictures.zimbio.com
Chloe Taylor
images.nudereviews.com
Flame of course (best safe image I could find)
88.208.61.72
and my new fav is Jessica Robbins
jessicarobbin.com
2013-09-08 11:30:45 AM  
1 votes:

Mock26: So, does anyone know what the rate of HIV infection is among porn stars as compared to that among people not working in the porn industry?


There are some scholarly articles about it, but nothing from the last five years.

Gay porn in the US is shockingly safe. Gay guys in general tend to be hyper aware of their risk of infection and since infection is common enough that almost everyone will encounter a Pos person in their life, gay men won't necessarily disqualify someone from sex just because they're HIV+; they already know how to have sex with that person in such a way that risk is minimized (and in fact, a known Pos partner is in some ways safer because THEY ALREADY KNOW).

Straight porn is another matter entirely. Performers are supposed to provide a current, clean bill of health prior to work, but "clean" for porn just means HIV. "Straight" performers have almost 100% infection rates for herpes and HPV and the stuff that can be cleared up with antibiotics is shockingly common and might not keep someone from working. The market in professional porn says that condoms are boner-killers for people who want to buy porn, so they fight condom use and safe sex practices generally, and argue that they're in an overall safe community because of generally high rates of testing and compliance among the pool of performers. And that's kinda-sorta true BUT only if the pool is static and all those conditions are perfectly maintained, which of course they aren't.

Here's the problem: Male porn performers do gay  or male-on-she-male for pay; they can't go out and strip or escort the way the girls can and they get paid a bunch less anyway. It's important to understand that gay sex isn't the problem. The problem is that these guys are going down to Brazil and screwing around with people who are more like streetwalkers who happen to have wound up in a porno movie rather than professional porn performers. And these guys - because they're basically straight and really don't know the risks involved in what they're doing (they're used to US working conditions) will go down and catch something and introduce it to the community in LA. Because they work so often, it might be a few months before antibodies start showing up in a PCR screening and they've been infectious the whole time... and that's where these problems come from.

There's no way to disincentivize people from working outside the LA porn scene (there's also a less well regulated scene in Florida now that I don't know as much about), but the 100%, completely logical answer to these problems is to require US porn performers to practice safe vaginal and anal sex. The performers will biatch and moan but frankly this is a public health issue that should supersede any question of preference or market demand. This will lead to a certain amount of additional production moving to Prague or the like, but consumers will get used to it or they'll start buying non-US-produced or amateur porn. The only people who are really going to have a problem are the mid-size production companies in LA. And fark them, they're the architects of their own demise for not being proactive about the issue all along.
2013-09-08 10:53:10 AM  
1 votes:

Willas Tyrell: I'm sure that condom use will turn off a substantial segment of the audience - although I can't figure out why


because fantasies are supposed to be as fantasy-like as possible ?
2013-09-08 10:47:29 AM  
1 votes:

The_Philosopher_King: What I want to know is how the industry makes any money. Does anyone pay for porn anymore?


There are PLENTY of technically unsophisticated people who still buy or rent discs, or do Hotel PPV porn. Truckers or businessmen whose work-provided computers might track internet use, for example. A lot of discs are purchased by little mom and pop video stores and while Blockbuster and Hollywood Video are gone, the places that have a porn section are mostly still around.

Porn movies are often produced for such a small budget that even 1000 unit sales total will result in a meaningful profit; a "blockbuster" title like Pirates might sell 15,000 copies.

It seems with Red Tube and other free sites that there isn't a market of people willing to pay.

... yes and no. For the most part Adult Streaming sites are going to be plastered with ads. Ads for Adult content on the web do tend to pay reasonably well (unless you're in a particularly scammy ad network).

For professional content producers, the hope is that the previews they're offering will be enough to entice you to go find/buy/stream a full movie, but often as not some dedicated fan has already put the full movie online someplace. There's still a pretty compelling argument to be made for non-streaming porn, which comes down to video quality and not having to put up with some shiatty web player, but it's pretty clear that most people are perfectly fine with a 3 minute clip at 360p.

Models and independent content producers in this market are left at a point where the thing they can really offer (since porn no longer actually PAYS all that well) is customized content and high degrees of fan interaction. A friend of mine tried working as a camgirl for a couple months and found that on average she was making about $19/hour when she actually had someone watching her, which she often didn't. But one of those guys offered her $500 to make a scene to his specifications and that only took her about 40 minutes, so she has a bunch of stuff on Clips4sale now and she does OK with that.

Also, a pretty large subset of porn streaming sites are actually all owned by the same people: Brazzers, which is pretty widely reviled by the US-based porn establishment in California for profiting off amateur and stolen content.

Unless you can really live off the ad revenue.

The distributors get rich. Professional content producers are largely hurting pretty bad since everything they do is going to be undercut by college kids with smartphones.

Performers are mostly starving at this point unless they're some kind of name brand. Girls don't stay in the industry very long because they can make more money stripping and escorting; they might get paid $100/hour for their work, which sounds great except that they only get steady money if they're super-reliable, sober and aren't hard to work with - and because so many of those girls have had men telling them that the sun sets over their ass for their whole lives, they tend to all be hard to work with. So anyway a new girl will come in, make $5k a week for the first couple weeks they work, and then their opportunities dwindle unless someone really took a liking to them. These girls were probably already stripping and might've been doing more than that and the porn money is only good if it's steady, which it often isn't. If they wait by the phone, great, but they have car payments and crap so they need to go out and earn somehow, and that's when they decide to get out. And all of that assumes they don't feel TOO dehumanized by what it is they're actually doing.

However, never having paid for any I don't know if the "content" is superior.

There is GREAT pro-level content out there, but it's mostly web based and served to a niche market. X-Art.com has gorgeous, Hollywood-level cinematography to make artistic, couples-friendly porn that's delivered in high definition. Kink.com is a woman-owned D/s, Bondage and fetish site. Girlfriends Films makes coherent, scripted soap operas with 40 minute lesbian sex interludes and Axel Braun makes shockingly faithful and legitimately funny parody movies for Vivid.

Also, if anyone wants to list free sites other than Red Tube it might be a FARK community service.

Off the top of my head:

YouPorn
GooTube
xHamster
Xtube
spankwire
xnxx
Pornhub
cliphunter
eporner
pornmd
homemoviestube
beeg
f*ckbook
empflix
deviltube
tube8
porn8
fantasti.cc
sextube
myjizztube
totalporn
keezmovies
tnaflix
youjizz
18tube
xxxymovies
2013-09-08 10:25:42 AM  
1 votes:

The_Philosopher_King: What I want to know is how the industry makes any money. Does anyone pay for porn anymore?


There are people who watch porn more or less constantly. It can become an addiction. I figure they're probably burning up the free sites AND handing over their credit card numbers.

However, never having paid for any I don't know if the "content" is superior.

I paid once, for a three-day "trial" membership. For that, I got HD video and sound, and end-to-end shoots rather than excerpts. The bandwidth was a lot better too, much less pausing-while-playing while waiting for the next 20 seconds to download.

I should mention, though, that I actually got charged for *three* three-day "trial" memberships (three separate charges on my card, all for the contracted amount...so 3x the contracted amount), all three were set up to auto-renew without manual intervention, and they were very difficult to cancel. If you do this, keep every single email you get regarding your subscription. There's a lot of fine print, but all the details you'll need to unsubscribe are in there.
2013-09-08 10:09:24 AM  
1 votes:

croesius: Fuggin Bizzy: "But I'm really sad for our community, that we're treating these people as utterly disposable."

Since when have porn performers been anything other than disposable? You don't get into porn when you have better options.

That's totally false. I've seen plenty of teachers, doctors, even policewomen moonlighting in videos.


1. Yeah? Like who? A few names, if you don't mind.
2. Teachers and cops make very poor money, ergo they may not have better options.
3. Doctors? You're full of shiat. I'm calling you out.
4. Even Jenna Haze GTFO of performing as soon as she had an escape route.
5. If you're serious and not just typing out your ass, you watch too much porn.
2013-09-08 10:05:11 AM  
1 votes:
Why do people share with the world who their favorite porn actresses are?
I admit that humans continually confuse me but this is another level shiat, you are in effect saying "here is the person that doesn't know I exist yet I slavishly masturbate to images of them and obsessively collect said images whenever possible. Please be aware of my preferences and feel free to make comments about the hair color or weight of this person. If you like the same person as me I will be delighted, if you dislike them I will be angry, either way I will slink away to masturbate over them and then return here with one dripping hand to react to your opinions on my opinions."
I like farking almonds, I truly farking love the little nut-faced freaks and delight that they exist. But, I have no inclination to post pictures of almonds online hoping to get a reaction and I have no interest in how almonds make you feel.
Seriously all you random farking idiots out there in the world, quit obsessing over women that don't know or care about your existence, if you need to empty your bag get on with it but quit having imaginary (girl)friends.
Ugh, humans exist... I forget sometimes.
2013-09-08 10:01:44 AM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: Crotchrocket Slim: AngryDragon: cardex: gmpilot: Interestingly, HIV transmission rates in the US are now highest in poor black women.  The gay community has put a lot of effort into testing and protection.

But they still let poor black women give blood and donate organs

Although the policy of barring homosexuals from giving blood, etc. should be reviewed, there really was a good reason for it at one point.  It wasn't just a discriminatory policy.

Except that no one is suggesting barring black women from donating etc. pretty much proves that it was.

No.  We know what causes AIDS now and have a nearly foolproof method of identifying the virus responsible, HIV.  When the restrictions were put in place, we didn't.  The wide-scale emergence of AIDS started in the late 70s as far as we know.  Serious research started in '81 when it was called GRID, The virus was identified in '83 with great difficulty and in '85 it was determined with great certainty that it was responsible for GRID/AIDS and transmitted by blood.

The ban went into effect in '85.  The first completely effective screening test for blood and plasma donations was adopted on September 21, 2001.  16 years.  Yes, the policy should be reviewed and revised.  No it was not discriminatory in any way shape of form.

Timeline of AIDS


You forget the crux of my post. If it's cool to ban entire demographics from donating, why is no one suggesting the same of black women now that the stats support this?
2013-09-08 09:31:16 AM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: cardex: gmpilot: Interestingly, HIV transmission rates in the US are now highest in poor black women.  The gay community has put a lot of effort into testing and protection.

But they still let poor black women give blood and donate organs

Although the policy of barring homosexuals from giving blood, etc. should be reviewed, there really was a good reason for it at one point.  It wasn't just a discriminatory policy.


Lots of things were good ideas at the time like radio active tonic water and bayer heroin for teething toddlers but they turn out to be wrong after we learn more. The ban should have been lifted 15 years ago now it is just discriminatory because its easier to leave in place then deal with the right wing backlash
2013-09-08 08:56:35 AM  
1 votes:

alienated: Boo_Guy: Heather Carolin

I liked Flame  ( alicia vickers ) better, but that was another age.

Anyhow,  I think porn valley needs a 6 month break. I dont give a damn about anyone losing money. Go paint sets someplace else, or be a grip or a gaffer. Be a dp on some series. Do something else, get your hours in and get your union cards. Now, that covers crew.  A lot of pron actors / actresses moonlight as escorts. Think on that. Take the 6 months off, avoid orgies and coke and porsches and make sure that you are in fact, clean . Thats for the stars.
I care nothing for the studios- you brought this on yourselves, assholes. Do what you normally do- make compilation dvds and sell them on the cheap .


We should apply this to every profession.  Hit by a forkclift at the auto plant? Shut down all us production of automobiles for 6 months. thatll show em!
2013-09-08 08:50:35 AM  
1 votes:
i get this is a porn thread, but you people are weird sometimes.   Who gives a shiat about what these people have or what they dont have or what goes on in their personal lives. They are models. They are for masturbating to on the internet. If i ever ran into a porn star i could actually recognize (maybe like 1 or 2 of them that are in existance) id be like hey whats up and go about my business.
2013-09-08 05:58:29 AM  
1 votes:

alienated: Crotchrocket Slim: This gives me a sad as I enjoy porn and I think the industry is being run by complete shiatheads who could easily prevent a lot of this but are too farking cheap/scumbag capitalist to do so.

No, they just dont care. They're are not stupid. They are predators. They profit regardless of the help dying- there are more each day, waiting.


Mostly why I put the "scumbag capitalist" in there too :(
2013-09-08 05:51:08 AM  
1 votes:

Boo_Guy: I don't know, I'm going to rigorously study them(redheads) until I come up with an answer to that question.


Check out Dani Woodward, she was always my favorite redhead porn chick, have fun.
2013-09-08 05:46:02 AM  
1 votes:
This gives me a sad as I enjoy porn and I think the industry is being run by complete shiatheads who could easily prevent a lot of this but are too farking cheap/scumbag capitalist to do so.
2013-09-08 05:44:57 AM  
1 votes:
That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.
2013-09-08 05:17:16 AM  
1 votes:

Fuggin Bizzy: "But I'm really sad for our community, that we're treating these people as utterly disposable."

Since when have porn performers been anything other than disposable? You don't get into porn when you have better options.


That's totally false. I've seen plenty of teachers, doctors, even policewomen moonlighting in videos.
2013-09-08 05:16:19 AM  
1 votes:

Neeek: Wolf892: I bet less porn stars have contracted HIV than US soldiers have died overseas in the last 2 years...
Jobs have risks. Everyone knows what they are.
The day we decide to ban war because a soldier got killed is the day I agree to ban porn because someone got HIV.

Far less porn stars contract STDs than the population at large. You are seriously safer boinking a porn star than a random hookup in a bar.


No, you're not, but it's nice to see their PR is working.
2013-09-08 05:07:37 AM  
1 votes:

Boo_Guy: Heather Carolin


I liked Flame  ( alicia vickers ) better, but that was another age.

Anyhow,  I think porn valley needs a 6 month break. I dont give a damn about anyone losing money. Go paint sets someplace else, or be a grip or a gaffer. Be a dp on some series. Do something else, get your hours in and get your union cards. Now, that covers crew.  A lot of pron actors / actresses moonlight as escorts. Think on that. Take the 6 months off, avoid orgies and coke and porsches and make sure that you are in fact, clean . Thats for the stars.
I care nothing for the studios- you brought this on yourselves, assholes. Do what you normally do- make compilation dvds and sell them on the cheap .
2013-09-08 04:25:37 AM  
1 votes:
Interestingly, HIV transmission rates in the US are now highest in poor black women.  The gay community has put a lot of effort into testing and protection.
2013-09-08 04:10:57 AM  
1 votes:
I could be wrong but I seem to remember a lot of these porn stars who test HIV positive have either crossed over from doing gay porn scene (though I read that gay porn studios are even more vigilant about condom use) or has done some work in a South American country farking women or transsexuals.
2013-09-08 04:07:25 AM  
1 votes:

Vertdang: pedobearapproved: walrusonion: doglover: walrusonion: styckx: Meanwhile.. On the internet

[img2.joyreactor.cc image 850x1263]

Faye Reagan has vag warts and a drug problem.

And yet even she won't stoop to your level.

Enjoy that.

It's all good, i'm not into crotch warts and track marks. Faye only ever farks that one dude anyway.

I sing karaoke with that dude. They don't fark no more

I... whuh... wait.... what?


Well, of course. Doesn't everyone do karaoke with porn stars? I'm in a fantasy football league with Peter North and Ron Jeremy.
2013-09-08 03:46:26 AM  
1 votes:
BTW.. When did the Faye Reagan is a drug addict meme start? The warts thing I get because it's old but... The drug addict thing is new to me..
2013-09-08 03:15:34 AM  
1 votes:

styckx: Meanwhile.. On the internet

[img2.joyreactor.cc image 850x1263]


Faye Reagan has vag warts and a drug problem.
2013-09-08 03:11:37 AM  
1 votes:
I still think it's weird I've watched women go from tame stuff to uh....not so tame.

Whatever. We all falter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH7-1HcPLS8

Also, GODFLESH in Austin this October

/woo, WOOO
//just for decorations
2013-09-08 01:32:49 AM  
1 votes:
No Ms. Porno. I expect you to die and be a relatively unmourned passing
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-09-08 12:42:32 AM  
1 votes:
They probably both did.
 
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