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(Daily Star)   Old and busted: Weed with 20-30% THC. New hotness: Hash oil that's 80-95% pure THC   (dailystar.co.uk) divider line 165
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2013-09-07 10:04:35 PM
www.thefunnybox.com
I'm OK with this.
 
2013-09-07 11:55:02 PM
 
2013-09-07 11:55:34 PM
Walter White is coming to make weed better?

AWESOME
 
2013-09-08 12:42:19 AM
yawn
this is pretty old news
and awesome news

that you can smoke in public with less chance of getting caught ..
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
this would be great in movie theaters !!
 
2013-09-08 12:47:27 AM
I was already rocking a vaping device.  This makes it better.

/not really, I'm horrible with pot
//haven't smoked it in 20 years
 
2013-09-08 01:11:01 AM
*FARK'S PROGRESSIVE ANTI-SMOKING BRIGADE'S HEADS' ASPLODE*
 
2013-09-08 01:12:05 AM
"Drug dealers' e-cigarettes cannibis risk / Drug dealers are dicing with death to make super-strength cannabis for e-cigarettes."

i.imgur.com

This is the second high-profile FUD article about e-cigarettes this week. My stars, won't somebody please think of the tobacco lobby?

No, seriously, let's think about this. Lorillard acquired Blu in April 2012 for $135M, and the growth in e-cigs suggests that Lorillard didn't buy Blu just to take them off the market, so this isn't just as simple as "Big Tobacco vs. E-cigarettes," it's more like Reynolds and Altria vs. Lorillard. That thesis doesn't necessarily make sense from a purely economic point of view either, though, because. Reynolds or Altria could easily afford to snap up any or all of the other e-cigarette manufacturers. From a purely business standpoint, this doesn't make any sense. All the major nicotine providers could acquire and develop an e-cig line for peanuts, and compete with each other for customers. And it's not as if the tobacco companies are that opposed to the idea; Altria favors harm reduction too, just not as vociferously as the e-cig manufacturers themselves.

Somewhere along the line politics is also part of this equation; just as the corn-producing states have disproportionate influence during the presidential primary process, politicians want the tax revenue from the tobacco companies, and there's a link between that revenue and the relative political power of the tobacco-farming states. Maybe the issue at hand isn't whether people consume nicotine or placebo, but whether they consume their nicotine in the form of burnt tobacco leaves or concentrated nicotine solutions that require far fewer farmers? Maybe the battle isn't between nicotine addicts vs puritans, but between tobacco farmers vs everyone else?

Is the exit plan for the privately-held e-cig companies to go public, raise a bucket of capital (which can be used to buy legislators: difficulty, it can't buy as many legislators as Big Tobacco can buy), and disrupt the cigarette market, or is it simply to exit by selling to a major tobacco company before going public, because the risks of an attempt to disrupt the cigarette market are too great to be worth taking?

Disclosure: My drugs of choice are caffeine and alcohol. I own no position in any tobacco stocks (at the moment), but I like money, and I think there's a boatload of money to be made by anyone who figures it out.
 
2013-09-08 01:12:14 AM
Site comments are pretty funny.
 
2013-09-08 01:12:53 AM
"Drug dealers' e-cigarettes cannibis risk"

Dude... wait what?
 
2013-09-08 01:13:31 AM
I used to smoke, but ever since I hit my 30s pot just makes me have really disturbing thoughts. This oil would probably put me over the edge.
 
2013-09-08 01:15:10 AM

Megaslow: "Drug dealers' e-cigarettes cannibis risk"

Dude... wait what?


It totally makes sense if you're really high, like I am.

/Not really.
/I am really high, but it still makes no sense.
 
2013-09-08 01:16:02 AM
I once ate a bagel with poppy seeds on it.
 
2013-09-08 01:17:37 AM
So, the "new hotness" has been around since, what, the 1970s? Earlier than that? I remember reading about it around 1980.

Maybe it's not that it's newly invented, but that using it makes it hard to remember what you did...
 
2013-09-08 01:18:06 AM

ChiWhiteSox_56: I used to smoke, but ever since I hit my 30s pot just makes me have really disturbing thoughts. This oil would probably put me over the edge.


I know a guy who loves his e-cigs, and has some of this super weed stuff. He said he didn't know how strong it was when he bought it and was the highest he'd ever been when he smoked it casually. He couldn't even function he was so stoned - apparently just a few puffs was plenty.

So, yeah, probably.
 
2013-09-08 01:20:34 AM
Sign me up for that...
 
2013-09-08 01:20:43 AM
It's good. One hit will do ya.
 
2013-09-08 01:22:31 AM

ChiWhiteSox_56: I used to smoke, but ever since I hit my 30s pot just makes me have really disturbing thoughts. This oil would probably put me over the edge.




Yep, I'm right there with you. Maybe a tiny puff once a year to remind myself why I don't do it anymore. I kinda miss it - it used to give me a reason to look forward to weekends.
 
2013-09-08 01:22:32 AM
As an e-Cig owner who uses them specifically to combat extremely severe migraine pain, I am interested in this.

If it's too strong, it can be diluted. That's how e-Cigs work.
 
2013-09-08 01:23:00 AM
Gimme gimme gimme gimme
 
2013-09-08 01:23:02 AM

jfarkinB: So, the "new hotness" has been around since, what, the 1970s? Earlier than that?


More like dawn of time stuff. Oils are always more concentrated.
 
2013-09-08 01:24:21 AM
Yes please...
tonightatthemovies.com
 
NGM
2013-09-08 01:24:48 AM
BHO? ERRL? Hash Oil? 710 ALL DIZZLE??!!?! Gimme a break. This is another sub-par story, holy cow, in regards to the oil craze. May I lay a heavy SAGE on this? Good lawd.
 
2013-09-08 01:31:04 AM
Joint hits: Mars
Bong hits: Saturn
Oil hits: Uranus
 
2013-09-08 01:31:45 AM
Just to make things clear to the non-pot smoking public.... hash (and hash oil) is made from the marijuana plant. The trichomes from the plant are removed and compressed into bricks as "hash". There are various methods to do this. Bits of this brick are sold in small increments (usually grams), Since trichomes are the main source of THC, hash is an order of magnitude more potent then "pot" smoked in a pipe. Kind of a concentrate. I'm not sure if it's as much more potent as the article suggests tho. But, the new strains of plants are much more potent then what I grew up around (late 70's & 80's)

I've heard of using butane in making hash oil but it can be very dangerous/flammable to do so.
 
2013-09-08 01:35:09 AM
Potent hash is nothing new.
 
2013-09-08 01:36:43 AM
Entertainingly, I could actually probably manage this particular render, and my organic benchtop chem isn't even that good.
 
2013-09-08 01:37:53 AM
That doesn't sound very fun... I need some of the other stuff in the plant to even things out a bit. Otherwise I get a little anxious.
 
2013-09-08 01:39:01 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-08 01:39:18 AM

Jenna Tellya: Joint hits: Mars
Bong hits: Saturn
Oil hits: Uranus


I giggled.
 
2013-09-08 01:39:46 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
/does not approve
//no idea why
 
2013-09-08 01:46:04 AM
This is not a recent event.... -colorado
 
2013-09-08 01:49:59 AM

iamrex: Jenna Tellya: Joint hits: Mars
Bong hits: Saturn
Oil hits: Uranus

I giggled.


Makes two of us.
 
2013-09-08 01:51:19 AM
Honey oil FTW
 
2013-09-08 01:53:20 AM
Pot users are snapping up vials of it, pouring it into e-cig cartridges and smoking it, leaving police struggling to detect the liquid that has virtually no smell.

Ha Ha!
 
2013-09-08 01:54:46 AM

Rhombic: Honey oil FTW


What's that?
 
2013-09-08 01:57:10 AM
As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much, just a tiny taste.
 
2013-09-08 01:58:40 AM
i849.photobucket.com

Why yes this seems like something I would be interested in!
 
2013-09-08 02:04:34 AM

Twilight Farkle: "Drug dealers' e-cigarettes cannibis risk / Drug dealers are dicing with death to make super-strength cannabis for e-cigarettes."

[i.imgur.com image 580x480]

This is the second high-profile FUD article about e-cigarettes this week. My stars, won't somebody please think of the tobacco lobby?

No, seriously, let's think about this. Lorillard acquired Blu in April 2012 for $135M, and the growth in e-cigs suggests that Lorillard didn't buy Blu just to take them off the market, so this isn't just as simple as "Big Tobacco vs. E-cigarettes," it's more like Reynolds and Altria vs. Lorillard. That thesis doesn't necessarily make sense from a purely economic point of view either, though, because. Reynolds or Altria could easily afford to snap up any or all of the other e-cigarette manufacturers. From a purely business standpoint, this doesn't make any sense. All the major nicotine providers could acquire and develop an e-cig line for peanuts, and compete with each other for customers. And it's not as if the tobacco companies are that opposed to the idea; Altria favors harm reduction too, just not as vociferously as the e-cig manufacturers themselves.

Somewhere along the line politics is also part of this equation; just as the corn-producing states have disproportionate influence during the presidential primary process, politicians want the tax revenue from the tobacco companies, and there's a link between that revenue and the relative political power of the tobacco-farming states. Maybe the issue at hand isn't whether people consume nicotine or placebo, but whether they consume their nicotine in the form of burnt tobacco leaves or concentrated nicotine solutions that require far fewer farmers? Maybe the battle isn't between nicotine addicts vs puritans, but between tobacco farmers vs everyone else?

Is the exit plan for the privately-held e-cig companies to go public, raise a bucket of capital (which can be used to buy legislators: difficulty, it can't buy as many legisla ...


HEY!!

GAWRDANGET

You farking Paranoid stoner lets get something perfectly DAMN clear..

Altria group handles all food service and non-tobacco related facets of that buisness including Kraft foods, folders Coffee etc etc.. Philip Morris, is a subsidiary of Altiria and handles ALL tobacco related aspects of that conglomerate. So, I will THANK YOU to leave Altria out of the argument and continue to use Philip Morris for all you paranoid tobacco based scape goat delusions of pot being kept illegal...


*snert*
 
2013-09-08 02:04:44 AM
I haven't smoked pot since it went over $25 an ounce. It's gotta be at least twice that now, right?
 
2013-09-08 02:08:40 AM

harrycary: Just to make things clear to the non-pot smoking public.... hash (and hash oil) is made from the marijuana plant. The trichomes from the plant are removed and compressed into bricks as "hash". There are various methods to do this. Bits of this brick are sold in small increments (usually grams), Since trichomes are the main source of THC, hash is an order of magnitude more potent then "pot" smoked in a pipe. Kind of a concentrate. I'm not sure if it's as much more potent as the article suggests tho. But, the new strains of plants are much more potent then what I grew up around (late 70's & 80's)

I've heard of using butane in making hash oil but it can be very dangerous/flammable to do so.


Hash is 2 or 3 times stronger than the highest grade weed, in terms of percentage THC. An "order of magnitude more potent" would mean that the hash was in excess of 100 percent THC, which would be awesome, but physically impossible.

/nerd.
//pedantic nerd
 
2013-09-08 02:09:20 AM

frostus: I haven't smoked pot since it went over $25 an ounce. It's gotta be at least twice that now, right?

Did you wear an onion on your belt while you did it?
 
2013-09-08 02:10:22 AM

frostus: I haven't smoked pot since it went over $25 an ounce. It's gotta be at least twice that now, right?


This is not your father's Oldsmobile cannabis...
 
2013-09-08 02:11:34 AM
Now begins the full-retard crackdown on e-cigs. I look for some bought-and-paid-for Congress-critter to try to pass legislation that would categorize the entire e-cig inventory list as "drug paraphernalia."

If you can't beat 'em, make 'em illegal.
 
2013-09-08 02:11:34 AM
Also: "dicing with death"

Is it even possible to OD on pot?  I can't believe it is.  You might be higher than fark for a week  but can you actually die from that?
 
2013-09-08 02:13:25 AM
I've been vaping cannabis wax since the beginning of this year. To be able to smoke discreetly with virtually no smell has been a game changer for me. A $40 gram of wax or shatter lasts me way longer than a $60 1/8th. It's also more of a head high so couch-lock is less likely but YMMV.

A proper oil rig is the way to go at home but if you can't afford a full rig these new vape pens kick all kinds of ass and will be more than enough for most people. They're ultra stealthy and discreet, I've even wrapped headphones around them and brought them with me on flights. If you have access to cannabis concentrates, at the very least buy yourself a vaped glass globe. Those things are the closest you can get to taking a dab without a full rig.
 
2013-09-08 02:15:11 AM

Jenna Tellya: Joint hits: Mars
Bong hits: Saturn
Oil hits: Uranus


*APPLAUSE*
 
2013-09-08 02:15:34 AM
Man, it makes me sick to think of all those roving gangs of potheads getting their kicks by forcing schoolchildren babies to overdose on the hash oils.
 
2013-09-08 02:19:13 AM

Treygreen13: ChiWhiteSox_56: I used to smoke, but ever since I hit my 30s pot just makes me have really disturbing thoughts. This oil would probably put me over the edge.

I know a guy who loves his e-cigs, and has some of this super weed stuff. He said he didn't know how strong it was when he bought it and was the highest he'd ever been when he smoked it casually. He couldn't even function he was so stoned - apparently just a few puffs was plenty.

So, yeah, probably.


The really hot girl at the dispensary gave me some to try and I don't remember the next couple weeks. I'm a regular smoker and the first hour is sometimes more than I want.  It really only takes a tiny bit like the head of a toothpick is plenty.  What I dont like about it is that it completely screws up memory formation so if I smoke and watch a movie an hour later I'll have no recollection of huge chunks of the movie.  So it makes it kinda worthless for recreational use when you just want to make a movie 75% funnier.
 
2013-09-08 02:19:50 AM
a 'friend' had a chance to sample some of this 'hash oil' the other day. said it was like smoking an entire bowl in a hit.
 
2013-09-08 02:25:40 AM

bestie1: Also: "dicing with death"

Is it even possible to OD on pot?  I can't believe it is.  You might be higher than fark for a week  but can you actually die from that?


You can technically OD on anything but it's anxiety that sends people to the emergency room.  Weirdly your own brain freaking out is way more dangerous than the actual effects of cannabis.
 
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