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2013-09-07 01:46:02 PM
Welcome to Legitimate Lawsuit Saturday!
 
2013-09-07 02:12:44 PM
You can take the doc out of the frat, but you can't take the frat out of the doc.
 
2013-09-07 02:45:29 PM
My mom volunteers at Torrance Memorial.  The volunteers all got a firmly-worded memo from the volunteer coordinator reminding them of the importance of patient privacy.

Not to mention, you know, common human decency.
 
2013-09-07 03:16:56 PM
Opposing Views:  News Controversy Opinion

/one of these is not like the others
 
2013-09-07 03:26:46 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind if the docs would do that kind of thing to me, just don't post it on Facebook.

I think it would be pretty funny to wake up with an arrow pointing to my mouth and a "cock goes here" text written in an ink that easily comes off.

"Very funny, doc. Ass."
 
2013-09-07 05:38:06 PM
You know who else had a mustache?
 
2013-09-07 05:50:20 PM
What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?
 
2013-09-07 05:50:20 PM

Nothing To See Here: You know who else had a mustache?


Catholic girls
 
2013-09-07 05:50:37 PM
Is...is this supposed to be racist?
 
2013-09-07 05:53:37 PM

Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?


She suffered from having to quit her job "because of the embarassment".  More like her lawyer telling her to quit her job and say this is why.
 
2013-09-07 05:57:15 PM
FTA: "Dr. Patrick Yang placed stickers on Valdez's face..."

/Stickers, people....you know, those things that come off instantly?

//stupid lawsuit is stupid

///welcome to idiocracy
 
2013-09-07 05:57:37 PM

Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?


The fact that she was in a very vulnerable position with people she trusted and they went and did this to her. Yeah, I know that some people would have laughed it off, but everyone is different. Trust is an important thing to some people, especially to women. When it is broken it really can feel like a great violation.

The fact that it was posted on Facebook too - that shiat never goes away.
 
2013-09-07 05:57:55 PM

oukewldave: Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?

She suffered from having to quit her job "because of the embarassment".  More like her lawyer telling her to quit her job and say this is why.



"Forget slapstick workplace humor, this is my meal ticket outta here!  F you F you and F you!"
 
2013-09-07 05:57:57 PM

Nothing To See Here: You know who else had a mustache?


Larry Czonka, but I don't see how that's relevant here.
 
2013-09-07 05:58:38 PM

Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?


God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.
 
2013-09-07 05:59:43 PM
I don't have a problem for suing the s**t out of everyone who did not raise holy hell on that. This is the reason people get the wrong thing operated on all the time, unprofessionalism. You trust people to do the right thing when they put you under. If they are farking around with post-it notes and whatnot, what else are they doing?

Note: this does not include the normal discussion that occurs during surgery. The tension does need to be broken, and talking about someone's boyfriend/wife/vacation is fine, as long as someone keeps an eye on the ball. That's why there's more than one person in there, all of the instruments and other items are inventoried before and after the procedure, and the patient's vital signs can be monitored can usually be monitored by more than one person.
 
2013-09-07 05:59:56 PM

voodoomedic: FTA: "Dr. Patrick Yang placed stickers on Valdez's face..."

/Stickers, people....you know, those things that come off instantly?

//stupid lawsuit is stupid

///welcome to idiocracy


So, just so we are clear, you are ok with this.
 
2013-09-07 06:03:30 PM

ng2810: Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?

The fact that she was in a very vulnerable position with people she trusted and they went and did this to her. Yeah, I know that some people would have laughed it off, but everyone is different. Trust is an important thing to some people, especially to women. When it is broken it really can feel like a great violation.

The fact that it was posted on Facebook too - that shiat never goes away.


She trusted them not to put harmless stickers on her for a short period of time?
 
2013-09-07 06:04:15 PM
Bslim:

So, just so we are clear, you are ok with this.


Absolutely. This is 100% a case of someone looking to bank off a modestly stupid attempt at humor...a joke played on a co-worker. "Hey doctors and hospitals have money...let's see how much we can get for 'pain and suffering.'"
 
2013-09-07 06:06:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ng2810: Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?

The fact that she was in a very vulnerable position with people she trusted and they went and did this to her. Yeah, I know that some people would have laughed it off, but everyone is different. Trust is an important thing to some people, especially to women. When it is broken it really can feel like a great violation.

The fact that it was posted on Facebook too - that shiat never goes away.

She trusted them not to put harmless stickers on her for a short period of time?


Well molesting someone while she's asleep is harmless too but I still lost that babysitting gig.
 
2013-09-07 06:06:53 PM

voodoomedic: Bslim:

So, just so we are clear, you are ok with this.


Absolutely. This is 100% a case of someone looking to bank off a modestly stupid attempt at humor...a joke played on a co-worker. "Hey doctors and hospitals have money...let's see how much we can get for 'pain and suffering.'"


"Valdez herself had worked at the hospital for 13 years managing medical supplies, and was on a friendly basis with the surgery-room staff. Dr. Yang reported that rather that feeling insulted, he believed at the time that Valdez would think the joke was amusing.
"

Nailed it
 
2013-09-07 06:06:55 PM
HIPAA is serious business.  When I volunteered at a hospital were told even to avoid referring to patients as him or her when talking about them, if possible. That's how seriously the hospitals take patient privacy.

Posting a picture on Facebook (with or without a moustache) is definitely over the top.
 
2013-09-07 06:08:46 PM

Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?


TFA says she worked for the hospital, and the guy who did it thought she would think it was funny.  Just a joke gone wrong.

Fuggin Bizzy: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.


Woman's name is Valdez and the guy put a gaucho mustache and teardrops, a prison tattoo. Racism is common enough for one to wonder if this is a case of it. Try not to flood your room with tears because someone questioned it.
 
2013-09-07 06:09:09 PM
Pay her the amount of money needed for a bar of soap and some water.

PROBLEM SOLVED
 
2013-09-07 06:09:21 PM
just think what goes on in the kitchen of resturants
 
2013-09-07 06:10:51 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: voodoomedic: Bslim:

So, just so we are clear, you are ok with this.


Absolutely. This is 100% a case of someone looking to bank off a modestly stupid attempt at humor...a joke played on a co-worker. "Hey doctors and hospitals have money...let's see how much we can get for 'pain and suffering.'"

"Valdez herself had worked at the hospital for 13 years managing medical supplies, and was on a friendly basis with the surgery-room staff. Dr. Yang reported that rather that feeling insulted, he believed at the time that Valdez would think the joke was amusing.
"

Nailed it


Oh he nailed it alright.
 
2013-09-07 06:11:54 PM
Pffffft amateur not impressed.

i1190.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-07 06:14:03 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

TFA says she worked for the hospital, and the guy who did it thought she would think it was funny.  Just a joke gone wrong.

Fuggin Bizzy: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.

Woman's name is Valdez and the guy put a gaucho mustache and teardrops, a prison tattoo. Racism is common enough for one to wonder if this is a case of it. Try not to flood your room with tears because someone questioned it.


Except the "victim" was friends with the surgery staff and the person who took and posted the photo is a woman named Gomez. Idiot
 
2013-09-07 06:15:57 PM
It's pretty harmless, yeah, but as was pointed out upthread, it's still a violation of trust. If it's harmless, then the surgeon and his buddies can do it to each other when they pass out after using the prescription narcotics they sneaked out of the hospital. But someone going to their doctor, and even more a surgeon, is in a seriously vulnerable position. Without knowing a damned thing about it (in general), they're trusting this person with their life (or just quality of life if it's nothing all that important). Then they get on Facebook with a mustache and teardrops on their face while they're under.

What too many medical folks forget is that while they do these procedures every day and it's normal for them, the patient is probably worried at best and terrified at worst. So while putting a sticker on her face doesn't sound like much, it's still a pretty serious thing.

/There are more medical folks who are there for the patients and always keep in mind how hard it is for them, so I'm not trying to disparage the whole community.
 
2013-09-07 06:15:59 PM

voodoomedic: Absolutely. This is 100% a case of someone looking to bank off a modestly stupid attempt at humor...a joke played on a co-worker. "Hey doctors and hospitals have money...let's see how much we can get for 'pain and suffering.'"


And now that it's plastered all over online media, that only adds fuel to the fire.  After we get some engineered outrage from the masses, time to head over and cash the cheque.  This is such a non story.  Must be caturday.
 
2013-09-07 06:17:13 PM
No how about 100 time the fee the dr charged for his services and suspend his license for 1 year
 
2013-09-07 06:17:37 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: It's pretty harmless, yeah, but as was pointed out upthread, it's still a violation of trust. If it's harmless, then the surgeon and his buddies can do it to each other when they pass out after using the prescription narcotics they sneaked out of the hospital. But someone going to their doctor, and even more a surgeon, is in a seriously vulnerable position. Without knowing a damned thing about it (in general), they're trusting this person with their life (or just quality of life if it's nothing all that important). Then they get on Facebook with a mustache and teardrops on their face while they're under.

What too many medical folks forget is that while they do these procedures every day and it's normal for them, the patient is probably worried at best and terrified at worst. So while putting a sticker on her face doesn't sound like much, it's still a pretty serious thing.

/There are more medical folks who are there for the patients and always keep in mind how hard it is for them, so I'm not trying to disparage the whole community.


They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?
 
2013-09-07 06:19:09 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: It's pretty harmless, yeah, but as was pointed out upthread, it's still a violation of trust. If it's harmless, then the surgeon and his buddies can do it to each other when they pass out after using the prescription narcotics they sneaked out of the hospital. But someone going to their doctor, and even more a surgeon, is in a seriously vulnerable position. Without knowing a damned thing about it (in general), they're trusting this person with their life (or just quality of life if it's nothing all that important). Then they get on Facebook with a mustache and teardrops on their face while they're under.

What too many medical folks forget is that while they do these procedures every day and it's normal for them, the patient is probably worried at best and terrified at worst. So while putting a sticker on her face doesn't sound like much, it's still a pretty serious thing.

/There are more medical folks who are there for the patients and always keep in mind how hard it is for them, so I'm not trying to disparage the whole community.


'nuff said
 
2013-09-07 06:21:41 PM
 
2013-09-07 06:24:08 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I May Be Crazy But...: It's pretty harmless, yeah, but as was pointed out upthread, it's still a violation of trust. If it's harmless, then the surgeon and his buddies can do it to each other when they pass out after using the prescription narcotics they sneaked out of the hospital. But someone going to their doctor, and even more a surgeon, is in a seriously vulnerable position. Without knowing a damned thing about it (in general), they're trusting this person with their life (or just quality of life if it's nothing all that important). Then they get on Facebook with a mustache and teardrops on their face while they're under.

What too many medical folks forget is that while they do these procedures every day and it's normal for them, the patient is probably worried at best and terrified at worst. So while putting a sticker on her face doesn't sound like much, it's still a pretty serious thing.

/There are more medical folks who are there for the patients and always keep in mind how hard it is for them, so I'm not trying to disparage the whole community.

They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?


No actually I don't. I go to work, to work, not to dick around.
 
2013-09-07 06:24:25 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?


I do. I have also been in a position of having a coworker as a customer (student, really). In that case I didn't kid around. Somehow I managed to act professionally (even though I didn't have them unconscious on an operating table).

I also treat my coworker differently when we're at work or at the bar. At work, we're coworkers. At the bar, we're friends.
 
2013-09-07 06:27:37 PM

Bslim: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I May Be Crazy But...: It's pretty harmless, yeah, but as was pointed out upthread, it's still a violation of trust. If it's harmless, then the surgeon and his buddies can do it to each other when they pass out after using the prescription narcotics they sneaked out of the hospital. But someone going to their doctor, and even more a surgeon, is in a seriously vulnerable position. Without knowing a damned thing about it (in general), they're trusting this person with their life (or just quality of life if it's nothing all that important). Then they get on Facebook with a mustache and teardrops on their face while they're under.

What too many medical folks forget is that while they do these procedures every day and it's normal for them, the patient is probably worried at best and terrified at worst. So while putting a sticker on her face doesn't sound like much, it's still a pretty serious thing.

/There are more medical folks who are there for the patients and always keep in mind how hard it is for them, so I'm not trying to disparage the whole community.

They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?

No actually I don't. I go to work, to work, not to dick around.


Yeah refilling Slurpee machines is pretty serious business
 
2013-09-07 06:28:09 PM
Physicians and nurses have this thing called professional conduct.

This is not it.
 
2013-09-07 06:31:36 PM

balki1867: HIPAA is serious business.  When I volunteered at a hospital were told even to avoid referring to patients as him or her when talking about them, if possible. That's how seriously the hospitals take patient privacy.

Posting a picture on Facebook (with or without a moustache) is definitely over the top.


This. This is a clear violation of 2 fundamental patient rights. The right to privacy and the right to dignity. This is taken very very seriously. These rights are drilled into every health care workers head constantly.
 
2013-09-07 06:33:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?


Not when they are completely unconscious and helpless, no.
 
2013-09-07 06:35:57 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: They were friends and coworkers. It's not exactly your normal doctor patient relationship. I guess you never kid around with friends at work?


I would say this is the key point:

"Although Gomez claims to have deleted the photo promptly after the incident, the image was posted on Facebook, obtained by the NY Daily News, and is serving as evidence in the lawsuit."

It'd be one thing if they had taken the picture, shown it to Valdez after she woke up, then deleted it. The fact that it got to the Internet is a significant breach of patient privacy,  not "kidding around."
 
2013-09-07 06:38:27 PM
The hospital does not allow cell phones in patient areas, per a rule set in 2009 following a 2009 incident.

Said nursing manager Arthur Ano, "There was an incident, some years [ago], I walked in an operating room and the sales rep was taking a picture of a naked patient and I seized the phone. We discovered more pictures of the patient on his cell phone."

So now it's okay for a sales rep to be in an operating room with a naked patient, just so long as there's no cell phone involved?
 
2013-09-07 06:41:18 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Kumana Wanalaia: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

TFA says she worked for the hospital, and the guy who did it thought she would think it was funny.  Just a joke gone wrong.

Fuggin Bizzy: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.

Woman's name is Valdez and the guy put a gaucho mustache and teardrops, a prison tattoo. Racism is common enough for one to wonder if this is a case of it. Try not to flood your room with tears because someone questioned it.

Except the "victim" was friends with the surgery staff and the person who took and posted the photo is a woman named Gomez. Idiot


Read the first part of my comment. Just a joke gone wrong.

You are wound very tight. Idiot.
 
2013-09-07 06:47:35 PM

super_grass: Pay her the amount of money needed for a bar of soap and some water.

PROBLEM SOLVED


Soap and water will get a picture off the internet? Somebody tell Beyoncé!
 
hej
2013-09-07 06:53:06 PM
What was the point of censoring out the ladies eyes in that picture, if her name appears in the article?
 
2013-09-07 06:53:17 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ng2810: Brick-House: What damages did she suffer aside from losing her sense of humor?

The fact that she was in a very vulnerable position with people she trusted and they went and did this to her. Yeah, I know that some people would have laughed it off, but everyone is different. Trust is an important thing to some people, especially to women. When it is broken it really can feel like a great violation.

The fact that it was posted on Facebook too - that shiat never goes away.

She trusted them not to put harmless stickers on her for a short period of time?


I didn't RTFA because I just say no to giving the Opposing Views blog clicks, but it seems the issue is they posted photos of said patient w/ harmless stickers on social media. Because HIPAA and privacy issues and some such sort.
 
2013-09-07 06:54:49 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Kumana Wanalaia: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

TFA says she worked for the hospital, and the guy who did it thought she would think it was funny.  Just a joke gone wrong.

Fuggin Bizzy: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.

Woman's name is Valdez and the guy put a gaucho mustache and teardrops, a prison tattoo. Racism is common enough for one to wonder if this is a case of it. Try not to flood your room with tears because someone questioned it.

Except the "victim" was friends with the surgery staff and the person who took and posted the photo is a woman named Gomez. Idiot

Read the first part of my comment. Just a joke gone wrong.

You are wound very tight. Idiot.


Joke gone wrong my dimpled ass. Forget the "racist" aspect. Had it been a Raggedy Ann nose or a Lone Ranger mask, it's still wrong. If you wouldn't do it to a reporter or an ambulance chasing lawyer, you shouldn't do it to anybody.
 
2013-09-07 06:56:00 PM
Stupid thing to do. Discipline the OR staff involved. Maybe a fine or unpaid leave for a few days. The one posting the picture to facebook may need to be made an example of. You simply can't do that.

Conversely, stupid thing to sue for. Patient is ensuring that these silly pictures are seen by a much, much wider audience. These were a few stickers that her co-workers (friends?) put on her as a joke. Hardly worth all the fuss.
 
2013-09-07 06:58:26 PM

PainfulItching: Kumana Wanalaia: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Kumana Wanalaia: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

TFA says she worked for the hospital, and the guy who did it thought she would think it was funny.  Just a joke gone wrong.

Fuggin Bizzy: Bathysphere: Is...is this supposed to be racist?

God, why do you libtards have to inject race into every single thing?

/No. Nobody said anything about race...until this. Good going, douche.

Woman's name is Valdez and the guy put a gaucho mustache and teardrops, a prison tattoo. Racism is common enough for one to wonder if this is a case of it. Try not to flood your room with tears because someone questioned it.

Except the "victim" was friends with the surgery staff and the person who took and posted the photo is a woman named Gomez. Idiot

Read the first part of my comment. Just a joke gone wrong.

You are wound very tight. Idiot.

Joke gone wrong my dimpled ass. Forget the "racist" aspect. Had it been a Raggedy Ann nose or a Lone Ranger mask, it's still wrong. If you wouldn't do it to a reporter or an ambulance chasing lawyer, you shouldn't do it to anybody.


My point being that it wasn't an act of hate, rather, it was just highly inappropriate.
 
2013-09-07 06:59:12 PM
Several years ago my father, a surgeon at the hospital where he was having surgery, tied a red ribbon around his penis hidden beneath his gown. I suspect the surgeon & nurses were shocked when they pulled the gown back after he was asleep. Do you suppose he could have been sued for sexual harrassment?

Where I work the nurses used to paint the nails and apply fake tattoos to coworkers having surgery. Ahhhh, those were the days. But we were a small place and very tight-knit group.
 
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