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(Yahoo)   In Little Rock, the students will now have to remove the teachers underwear before being molested   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 25
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2013-09-07 12:37:43 PM
4 votes:
Was this an issue, or was it something that was passed despite there being no problem with teachers' dress and designed to make it sound like teachers were wearing inappropriate clothes? The letter from the union would make sense if that were the case. I worked at a unionized plant where the plant manager (unabashedly racist, he moved from South Africa because he didn't want to live in a post-Apartheid country and brought his racism with him to the States) issued rule after rule about things that never happened, like defecating on the production lines. But he wanted to beat down the mostly black workforce, make them understand that he thought they were animals and incapable of decency.

The plant ended up being closed down, production moved to another state because of the toxic environment he left behind when he was fired. When I was there, my boss was still the only salaried minority.

I don't automatically assume that a rule being created is a response to an actual problem, especially when the response is that it is degrading for the rule to even exist. The creation of the rule creates the perception of an existing problem. Why have a rule against something if it wasn't happening? Well, what if the people creating the rule simply were trying to cast the workers in a poor light by creating the perception?
2013-09-07 09:35:51 AM
4 votes:
Meanwhile teenage boys will masturbate to the image of chalk placed provocatively against the eraser, a particularly sumptuous mound of lunchroom tater tots, and the memory of that time a cheerleader accidentally slammed his hand in her locker door.
2013-09-07 08:50:39 PM
2 votes:
I went to HS in the 70's.  Very few of the teachers under 30 wore bras.  And guess what?  I graduated.  Yeah, I snuck a peek now and then, and when Ms. Morgan, the Conversational Spanish teacher bent over to look my translation homework and her blouse fell open I was VERY distracted.  Sometimes I think back and wonder if that she did that deliberately, always bending over at just the right angle and staying much longer than necessary.

And yet.  Here I sit, with an advanced degree "with great honors" written on the diploma in Latin.  Contributing to trade journals.  Getting calls from colleagues in academia and industry seeking my opinion and advice.  Somehow, I don't think the boobies are the problem.  If anything, boobies are the answer- I was much more motivated to go to school and stay awake in case any boobies happened to bounce on by.
2013-09-07 12:24:26 PM
2 votes:
Teacher dress code should be at least as stringent as the student one. Anything else is totally hypocritical. In my experience teachers will tell another teacher if something is inappropriate. Usually the little old lady who it's impossible to take offense to ends up having to do it.

I used to wear dress pants and button up shirts.
Now I wear Jeans and usually a collared or button up shirt. It's a choice. I give up a little authority in order to be more relatable to the student base here. It fits my teaching style. And I'm old enough now to need to be more relatable.

We had a 19-year-old come into the middle school I worked in last year as an aide. He wore a shirt and tie every day. He needed to; he needed that obvious separation from the kids.

If this was a problem, I can see why the district made the policy. But in my experience, district administration does these things just because they like to exhibit their power, not because there was an actual problem. That's probably why teachers are upset.
2013-09-07 11:21:19 AM
2 votes:
At least they are getting rid of those tacky flip flops.
2013-09-07 10:46:48 AM
2 votes:
Not clear on why this is an issue...I may be getting close to "Get off my lawn" age, but shouldn't professionals (in this case professional teachers) know how to dress professionally?  Perhaps the teacher's union should hold a seminar for its members for how to dress in the classroom instead of writing strongly worded letters...
2013-09-07 08:53:00 AM
2 votes:
A teacher wearing no panties with a short skirt is distracting. Boys will be staring all day just hoping it rides up a little too high.

But if the dress is tight yet long, that underwear line is going to keep the boys distracted all day long.

Solution: Home room is divided into individual cubicles complete with lotion, tissues and a small dog shiat bag. Just get it out of the way so they can get back to learning.
2013-09-07 02:14:55 PM
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: TheMaskedArmadillo: Not clear on why this is an issue...I may be getting close to "Get off my lawn" age, but shouldn't professionals (in this case professional teachers) know how to dress professionally?  Perhaps the teacher's union should hold a seminar for its members for how to dress in the classroom instead of writing strongly worded letters...

I'm nowhere near "off my lawn" age, and I totally agree.  If you want to go commando in your free time, because it's more comfortable or whatever, that's fine.  At work though, you should be dressed appropriately, and that includes wearing underwear.  That's just basic common sense to me.  What you do when you're not at work is no one's business, but when you're on the job, you should at least have the intellect to not leave your house half-dressed.  It doesn't matter if no one will see or won't be able to tell.

I'm honestly a bit taken aback that grown adults in charge of educating our young have to be told to wear underwear.  That's just farking sad.


You shouldn't wear plastic bags over your head.  The fact I told you this must mean you are a mouth-breathing retard of the highest order.
2013-09-07 01:11:12 PM
1 votes:
Go ahead, school. I absolutely dare you to try and check if your female teacher is wearing underwear if she says she is. Seems like early retirement for both parties, except the teacher will have a new house and car for it.
2013-09-07 01:01:33 PM
1 votes:

Big_Doofus: Also, do unions just automatically oppose everything???


Yes.
2013-09-07 12:56:51 PM
1 votes:

TheMaskedArmadillo: Not clear on why this is an issue...I may be getting close to "Get off my lawn" age, but shouldn't professionals (in this case professional teachers) know how to dress professionally?  Perhaps the teacher's union should hold a seminar for its members for how to dress in the classroom instead of writing strongly worded letters...


I'm nowhere near "off my lawn" age, and I totally agree.  If you want to go commando in your free time, because it's more comfortable or whatever, that's fine.  At work though, you should be dressed appropriately, and that includes wearing underwear.  That's just basic common sense to me.  What you do when you're not at work is no one's business, but when you're on the job, you should at least have the intellect to not leave your house half-dressed.  It doesn't matter if no one will see or won't be able to tell.

I'm honestly a bit taken aback that grown adults in charge of educating our young have to be told to wear underwear.  That's just farking sad.
2013-09-07 12:23:11 PM
1 votes:

wantingout: Well i'm glad the used the word 'verboten' in this story. Next it'll be "Ihre Papier Bitte".


No, next it'll be "Ihre bra und panties, bitte."
Seriously, this is just an excuse for administration to get hot teachers to show them their undies.
2013-09-07 12:22:23 PM
1 votes:

brimed03: So... No hot for teacher thread, huh.


I'll just leave this here.
2013-09-07 11:38:00 AM
1 votes:

WordyGrrl: TheMaskedArmadillo: Not clear on why this is an issue...I may be getting close to "Get off my lawn" age, but shouldn't professionals (in this case professional teachers) know how to dress professionally?  Perhaps the teacher's union should hold a seminar for its members for how to dress in the classroom instead of writing strongly worded letters...

Maybe all professions need that seminar these days. A friend of mine had to issue a memo to an office full of counselors (people with Masters and PhD degrees in psychology and counseling) that dressing like a professional authority figure rather than a beach bum served an important purpose beyond just "looking nice." It helped reduce the chances of getting assaulted by the clients (many of whom had PTSD).

When the counselors began dressing too casually, the clientele started to get the impression that the casually-dressed counselors were just lowly customer service agents whose job it was to give the client whatever he/she wanted, regardless of whether or not that client qualified for a particular benefit. Several clients got so rude and threatening that security was called to escort them out of the building and off the premises.


Painfully true.  I work for a medium size consulting firm and when we hire new consultants I am usually the guy who ends up training them.  I spend as much time teaching these individuals how to be a consultant (how to dress, show up early/on-time, how to interact with various levels of management, body language and why it is important, how to pack a suitcase and travel for fark's sake) as I do teaching them the subject matter that is our expertise.  As a friend of mine who is a muckety-muck with Wells Fargo once told me "...it is always ok to be the most over-dressed person in the room.  It is never ok to be the most under-dressed in the room".
2013-09-07 11:25:59 AM
1 votes:
And this kind of stuff is exactly why people don't take teachers and the teaching profession seriously.

Also, do unions just automatically oppose everything??? Calling a rule prohibiting flip flops and cutoffs degrading and condescending is ridiculous. The fact that some teachers or anyone in a professional role would think this would be acceptable work attire says a lot about the person.

Sorry, but you wouldn't be working for me. Grow the fark up.
2013-09-07 11:24:24 AM
1 votes:
If you want to be taken seriously and treated like a professional-dress like one.
If you dress like a hoochie in a club you are only damaging your credibility and the credibility of your profession.
2013-09-07 10:59:00 AM
1 votes:
These teachers would never make it in the facility where I teach. Not only do I have to wear underwear, I also have to go through a metal detector and do a series of calisthenics to make sure none of my clothing shifts, clings, rides, gaps, or otherwise provides a glimpse of skin from knee to collarbone. Doesn't stop my students from trying to see though, and they aren't even teenagers.
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2013-09-07 10:46:36 AM
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Meanwhile teenage boys will masturbate to the image of chalk placed provocatively against the eraser, a particularly sumptuous mound of lunchroom tater tots, and the memory of that time a cheerleader accidentally slammed his hand in her locker door.


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You're getting me all worked up.
2013-09-07 10:41:31 AM
1 votes:

skinink: The no flip flops thing I agree with. you're at your job, not at Margaritaville. Just wear casual shoes or flats. Just dress sensibly at work. I can't believe grownups have to be told that and the union is making a big deal of this.


It's amazing the amount of people who don't understand the difference between what you wear on the weekend with your friends and what you wear to work even in a casual work environment. I interviewed for an IT job at a college at the start of the year, and wore a shirt and tie and dress pants (totally different from my baggy pants and t-shirt home routine) the woman told me I was the only person she interviewed who dressed up and most people came in jeans and one had on flip-flops.
2013-09-07 10:39:17 AM
1 votes:
I rarely noticed what my teachers were wearing. Seems like it was usually a holiday-themed sweater vest, though.
2013-09-07 10:33:34 AM
1 votes:
With helpful pic of what your teachers underwear does not look like.

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2013-09-07 10:29:47 AM
1 votes:
The no flip flops thing I agree with. you're at your job, not at Margaritaville. Just wear casual shoes or flats. Just dress sensibly at work. I can't believe grownups have to be told that and the union is making a big deal of this.
2013-09-07 10:29:05 AM
1 votes:
So would they perhaps be hiring for the position of underwear compliance officer?
2013-09-07 10:28:27 AM
1 votes:

ZAZ: Organized labor vocally opposes the new universal underwear requirement

This is my favorite sentence of the day so far, but I've only been up for two hours.


The unions are just trying to protect their members' hard-earned right to academic freeballing.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-07 10:14:57 AM
1 votes:
Organized labor vocally opposes the new universal underwear requirement

This is my favorite sentence of the day so far, but I've only been up for two hours.
 
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