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2013-09-07 09:30:22 AM
Face it, kid. You're a fat failure.
 
2013-09-07 09:31:56 AM
They're sending letters home saying "your kid is fat"?

Good.
 
2013-09-07 09:32:30 AM
imokaywiththis.jpg
 
2013-09-07 09:35:13 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: imokaywiththis.jpg


yeah pretty much. As harsh as it sounds if your preschooler is already obese you're setting them up for a lifetime of crippling health problems.
 
2013-09-07 09:35:34 AM
BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.
 
2013-09-07 09:35:39 AM
Fat and stupid aint no way to go through life, son.
 
2013-09-07 09:36:35 AM
I'm a bit more interested in that notorious woman in the sidebar.
 
2013-09-07 09:37:22 AM
I agree 100% with everything posted above.
 
2013-09-07 09:37:48 AM
"He slipped playing 'Duck, Duck, Goose' and killed four of his classmates, knocked a hole in the classroom wall and permanently altered the route of the C Train."
 
2013-09-07 09:38:18 AM

kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.


we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.
 
2013-09-07 09:40:00 AM
OK, that's fair enough.

Letting your kid get into the obese II or III category especially is outright child abuse on par with any other form of negligence.  You have a responsibility to take at least basic care of your child's health, an obligation you agreed to when you decided to have the thing, and the school is entirely right to call you on it.

I mean... they're going above and beyond the call of duty to even be this nice about it.  Sending your kid to school sitting in Obese III, which I've seen as an instructor, is on par with sending them to school with bed sores, ligature marks, or suspicious bruising red-flag wise.  It's not a 100% guarantee of an abusive/neglectful household, but it's more than enough to merit the time of social services to make sure.

If you have a grossly overweight  pet most cities will come and take it away from you.  Why would there be any expectation that we'd tolerate it with  humans in your care?

//Situation becomes different when they're teenagers and partially feeding themselves.  But that's not an excuse that applies to middle-schoolers... if your middle-schooler is feeding himself you  definitely need a visit from social services, because it seems you lack the inclination or resources to properly care for the basic needs of an immature human being.
 
2013-09-07 09:42:07 AM
We were required to get a yearly physical over the summer before we were allowed to go to school in the fall.  Wouldn't the doctor mention that your child was obese during or slightly after this examination?  Not that I don't see the benefits of healthy, fit children (for the future slave-labor force), but is this something a school should be putting resources into?
 
2013-09-07 09:43:14 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.


Your pre-schooler, maybe.

It takes some work to walk to school every day, 5 miles, uphill, in the snow.
 
2013-09-07 09:43:29 AM

Jim_Callahan: OK, that's fair enough.

Letting your kid get into the obese II or III category especially is outright child abuse on par with any other form of negligence.  You have a responsibility to take at least basic care of your child's health, an obligation you agreed to when you decided to have the thing, and the school is entirely right to call you on it.

I mean... they're going above and beyond the call of duty to even be this nice about it.  Sending your kid to school sitting in Obese III, which I've seen as an instructor, is on par with sending them to school with bed sores, ligature marks, or suspicious bruising red-flag wise.  It's not a 100% guarantee of an abusive/neglectful household, but it's more than enough to merit the time of social services to make sure.

If you have a grossly overweight  pet most cities will come and take it away from you.  Why would there be any expectation that we'd tolerate it with  humans in your care?

//Situation becomes different when they're teenagers and partially feeding themselves.  But that's not an excuse that applies to middle-schoolers... if your middle-schooler is feeding himself you  definitely need a visit from social services, because it seems you lack the inclination or resources to properly care for the basic needs of an immature human being.


Bingo. Chubby can be genetics. Fat is parental neglect.
 
2013-09-07 09:43:54 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.


It's even less accurate for toddlers.  But that's not what they were using anyway.  Height and Weight growth charts for the win.
in the 95th percentile... *poof* you a fatty fat.
 
2013-09-07 09:46:35 AM

kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.


Ding ding ding!
 
2013-09-07 09:48:24 AM

sno man: The_Original_Roxtar: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.

It's even less accurate for toddlers.  But that's not what they were using anyway.  Height and Weight growth charts for the win.
in the 95th percentile... *poof* you a fatty fat.


If your kindergartener is 95th percentile in height/weight in 2013, I'd say the chance he's actually fat are very, very high.
 
2013-09-07 09:50:15 AM
There is a kid in my daughter's elementary school who is either a first or second grader and has got to weigh well over a hundred pounds. He reminds of the super fat McDonald's kid photo. I was at a school function Thursday night and he was getting winded walking up three steps and then "jumping" from the bottom one. My three year old could clear the set of steps with minimal effort. The teachers took the kids outside to the playground for about half an hour while the principal gave us his speel about volunteering and when the kids came back in, the little fat kid was bright red in the face and drenched in sweat. All the other kids looked like they'd run hard for a bit, but they weren't as bad as this kid.
I may have been allowed to become a fatty by my parents but I sure as hell won't let me kids be fatties.
 
2013-09-07 09:54:10 AM

tetsoushima: We were required to get a yearly physical over the summer before we were allowed to go to school in the fall.  Wouldn't the doctor mention that your child was obese during or slightly after this examination?  Not that I don't see the benefits of healthy, fit children (for the future slave-labor force), but is this something a school should be putting resources into?


This is what I thought. You have to have a physical to go to school.

Last time I checked you have to actually go in to the doctor's office with your kid, so there's no way to get around the conversation about timmy's tummy.
 
2013-09-07 09:56:41 AM
"Your snowflake is a snowball."
 
2013-09-07 09:57:15 AM

sno man: The_Original_Roxtar: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.

It's even less accurate for toddlers.  But that's not what they were using anyway.  Height and Weight growth charts for the win.
in the 95th percentile... *poof* you a fatty fat.


At that point, all you would need is a cursory visual scan.

/for you dummies out there, that means that it is obvious that the kid is much too fat on sight.
 
2013-09-07 10:05:50 AM

mrswood: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

Ding ding ding!


It isn't for athletes and bodybuilders, but for 98% of people, it is pretty dang accurate. But they used growth charts, anyway, so it is a moot point.
 
2013-09-07 10:10:00 AM
As long as the school are equally willing to action any 'fat letters' they get in return about their staff, perhaps suspending said teachers for setting such a bad example, I don't see this as being a problem.
 
2013-09-07 10:10:59 AM
"Every year there are a few phone calls from parents who are upset," said Schmitt.


"Sir, you sound fat"
 
2013-09-07 10:13:01 AM
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2013-09-07 10:13:45 AM
When I first saw this story 3 days ago, the first thing I wondered was if this school had cut back on PE like so many others.  If so, maybe they should re-instate physical education before sending letter home to the parents?
 
2013-09-07 10:13:59 AM

Voiceofreason01: The_Original_Roxtar: imokaywiththis.jpg

yeah pretty much. As harsh as it sounds if your preschooler is already obese you're setting them up for a lifetime of crippling health problems.


I second this.
 
2013-09-07 10:14:57 AM

LoneWolf343: sno man: The_Original_Roxtar: kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.

we're talking pre-schoolers, not body builders.

It's even less accurate for toddlers.  But that's not what they were using anyway.  Height and Weight growth charts for the win.
in the 95th percentile... *poof* you a fatty fat.

At that point, all you would need is a cursory visual scan.

/for you dummies out there, that means that it is obvious that the kid is much too fat on sight.


By logic, there has to be 5% in the 5th percentile too, but I wonder if there is any more?  How old are the charts they are using?  I remember seeing some from the 70's being used when my daughter was a baby (2006)
 
2013-09-07 10:15:26 AM
I have an even better idea.  Let's take the responsibility of raising children away from these irresponsible parents and have a collective of highly educated administrators dictate their care.

I am not talking about taking the kids away from the parents (not at first anyway), but lets give them strict guidelines on exactly how to raise their children, exactly what to teach them, and provide rules regarding food consumption and physical activities.

IF the parents fail to strictly follow these rules, then we can impose punishments up to and including taking away the children and placing them with people who will follow the rules.
 
2013-09-07 10:17:38 AM
when the schools start providing more than 1 recess a day, then you can talk to me if my kid is overweight. When school policy (lack of recess, for example) contributes to the problem, then you can't complain when the problem occurs.
 
2013-09-07 10:19:59 AM

Truther: I have an even better idea.  Let's take the responsibility of raising children away from these irresponsible parents and have a collective of highly educated administrators dictate their care.

I am not talking about taking the kids away from the parents (not at first anyway), but lets give them strict guidelines on exactly how to raise their children, exactly what to teach them, and provide rules regarding food consumption and physical activities.

IF the parents fail to strictly follow these rules, then we can impose punishments up to and including taking away the children and placing them with people who will follow the rules.


2 /10. Creative, but to obvious. You'd probably be better at coming up with Tea Party ideas.
 
2013-09-07 10:22:31 AM

htimsxela: when the schools start providing more than 1 recess a day, then you can talk to me if my kid is overweight. When school policy (lack of recess, for example) contributes to the problem, then you can't complain when the problem occurs.


I do agree with this that PE should be required for at least 1-2 hours a day. I felt more attentive in school and felt better when I had a PE class in a semester. However, letting kids play video games for hours a day and feeding them a 2L of cola and hot dogs for dinner, isn't going to help.
 
2013-09-07 10:25:21 AM

poe_zlaw: Truther: I have an even better idea.  Let's take the responsibility of raising children away from these irresponsible parents and have a collective of highly educated administrators dictate their care.

I am not talking about taking the kids away from the parents (not at first anyway), but lets give them strict guidelines on exactly how to raise their children, exactly what to teach them, and provide rules regarding food consumption and physical activities.

IF the parents fail to strictly follow these rules, then we can impose punishments up to and including taking away the children and placing them with people who will follow the rules.

2 /10. Creative, but to obvious. You'd probably be better at coming up with Tea Party ideas.


I am serious.
 
2013-09-07 10:25:58 AM
Just release a couple wolves or hyenas or something in the halls. They'll cull the weak, fat, and sickly kids. Problem solved.
 
2013-09-07 10:27:41 AM
Get rid of school buses and they will shape up.
 
2013-09-07 10:27:53 AM

StrikitRich: When I first saw this story 3 days ago, the first thing I wondered was if this school had cut back on PE like so many others.  If so, maybe they should re-instate physical education before sending letter home to the parents?


For a lot of schools, PE is only a distant memory. There are 5th and 6th graders who have never even heard of PE. Over the last 5 years or so, they've also reduced recess. Standardized tests, you know. I'm sure piling guilt on the parents and shame on the kid will make it all better, though.
 
2013-09-07 10:34:34 AM

tetsoushima: We were required to get a yearly physical over the summer before we were allowed to go to school in the fall.  Wouldn't the doctor mention that your child was obese during or slightly after this examination?  Not that I don't see the benefits of healthy, fit children (for the future slave-labor force), but is this something a school should be putting resources into?


Exactly, schools should focus on teaching children the eight hours they have them. If they want to worry about something worry about teachers who send homework home so parents have to teach their own children. We are paying lazy teachers to NOT do their jobs. I think fat children is way down the list of things schools should worry about.
 
2013-09-07 10:35:09 AM
Every afternoon in my way home from work I pass this subdivision where there's about 15 parents waiting at the entrance with cars as golf carts and shiat, waiting to pick their kids up from the bus stop.

Seriously, your kid can't walk from the bus stop to your shiatty "Heather Woods Estates" McMansion? And you wonder why they're fat pieces of shiat?
 
2013-09-07 10:38:28 AM

Deep Contact: Get rid of school buses and they will shape up.


Or make it so the buses don't drop the kids off right at their doorstep.  Where I live, the bus literally stops at every individual house on a street so Snowflake has to do as little walking as possible (and often, the idiot parent is waiting in their SUV in the driveway to shuttle him to the door).  When I went to school (all the way back in the 80s), everyone on one street gathered at one stop.  But no, we can't have them WALKING anywhere.  Fresh air is poison, you know?
 
2013-09-07 10:39:50 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Every afternoon in my way home from work I pass this subdivision where there's about 15 parents waiting at the entrance with cars as golf carts and shiat, waiting to pick their kids up from the bus stop.

Seriously, your kid can't walk from the bus stop to your shiatty "Heather Woods Estates" McMansion? And you wonder why they're fat pieces of shiat?


We must live in the same area.  The entrance to the development is like a damn parking lot every day at 3pm.  Nobody even gets out of their cars to talk to each other.
 
2013-09-07 10:42:41 AM
It's the Valley: if your child is overweight, then you've narrowed their options for doing pornos as an adult.
 
2013-09-07 10:43:31 AM
If we had more bullies in school this would be less of a problem.

"Fatty, fatty, two by four ..."
 
2013-09-07 10:44:23 AM

sno man: It's even less accurate for toddlers.


There's actually an epidemic of children being overweight before they're even on a solid diet. 'Baby formula' is loaded with high fructose corn syrup. People tend to think a fat baby means they're taking good care of them, and they'll use that fat to grow. But that's incorrect. The only growth you're encouraging is horizontal.
 
2013-09-07 10:50:11 AM
It would be really awesome if the school published the best of the fatlogic angry answers about thinprivilege fatshaming from the worst of the hamplanet parents.

/newspeak is a skill
 
2013-09-07 10:55:44 AM

Mija: tetsoushima: We were required to get a yearly physical over the summer before we were allowed to go to school in the fall.  Wouldn't the doctor mention that your child was obese during or slightly after this examination?  Not that I don't see the benefits of healthy, fit children (for the future slave-labor force), but is this something a school should be putting resources into?

Exactly, schools should focus on teaching children the eight hours they have them. If they want to worry about something worry about teachers who send homework home so parents have to teach their own children. We are paying lazy teachers to NOT do their jobs. I think fat children is way down the list of things schools should worry about.


3/10

Not even one 0bummer reference? Fail.
 
2013-09-07 10:58:20 AM
Crackers Are a Family Food

But no, we can't have them WALKING anywhere.

Because, out there somewhere, SOMEONE is thinking of the chil'uns!
 
2013-09-07 11:01:26 AM

kukukupo: BMI is not an accurate measurement of health.


This. If I went by the typical 'BMI Chart' - for my height, I'd be a twig.

I haven't weighed the number on the chart since college --- and I was a real skinny dude in those days.
 
2013-09-07 11:06:55 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Every afternoon in my way home from work I pass this subdivision where there's about 15 parents waiting at the entrance with cars as golf carts and shiat, waiting to pick their kids up from the bus stop.

Seriously, your kid can't walk from the bus stop to your shiatty "Heather Woods Estates" McMansion? And you wonder why they're fat pieces of shiat?


This too... 60+ years ago the average American diet was horrendous by what the experts say we should eat today. The big difference? The amount of physical activity was significantly higher in those days.

Have the kid put down the iPhone, game controller and the TV remote and kick them outside once in a while.
 
2013-09-07 11:09:27 AM

J. Frank Parnell: sno man: It's even less accurate for toddlers.

There's actually an epidemic of children being overweight before they're even on a solid diet. 'Baby formula' is loaded with high fructose corn syrup. People tend to think a fat baby means they're taking good care of them, and they'll use that fat to grow. But that's incorrect. The only growth you're encouraging is horizontal.


I'm not sure I'm entitled to rant on the formula feeders, I'm sure they have lots of reasons, (which I have no interest in hearing today. Thx)  But unless there is some medical reason, why wouldn't you breast feed your kid?  It's what nature has worked out to be the best thing, and best of all it's free.

/thank you for reminding me that Nestle is still evil.
(did a report on them in a World Issues class in high school (!) 31 years ago.  Nice that nothing much has changed)
 
2013-09-07 11:12:56 AM
As a recovering fattie myself, I am 100% cool with this, as long as the TONE was right.

Give SOLUTIONS for both parents and kids to follow in diet and activity.

How hard is that?
 
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