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3765 clicks; posted to Geek » on 07 Sep 2013 at 9:59 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-09-07 09:05:21 AM  
When I was in the market for a house, Google real estate search in maps was da bomb. Then, one day....it was gone.

I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.

Google sync was handy to link my work and personal calendar....gone...

So, you think I'm interested in taking advantage of anything else new they offer in the future? No thanks, I'll still with email and internet searches.
 
2013-09-07 10:05:58 AM  
The new Google maps sucks - I can't figure out how to get rid of the big search box that takes up most of the screen.  I will miss the wiki feature.
 
2013-09-07 10:07:00 AM  
I run a small business helping space aliens determine the best place to land, wreak destruction, and leave after abducting a few species. Without Google Maps Wiki I'm out of a job. Damn you for providing a free genius service and then removing it.
 
2013-09-07 10:18:44 AM  
Second post from the top on the page subby linked to:

"After some exploration I found this - it's buried under "More" - but it seems much less robust. The wiki markers are fewer, and must be zoomed a lot more."
 
2013-09-07 10:24:30 AM  
...that being said, where the hell is "more" for Maps?
 
2013-09-07 10:25:32 AM  
Never mind, dude was talking about Earth, not Maps.  Earth still has the layer.
 
2013-09-07 10:34:23 AM  
Hey Chrome users, point of order. It says right in the EULA they can do this to your OS at anytime without your consent, and you consented to it. This is why I stayed with Firefox. I'd rather deal with the bloat than pieces going away arbitrarily one day.
 
2013-09-07 10:43:44 AM  
My question is why isn't there a way to put a radar overlay onto google maps?

Seems to me it be real convenient and useful.
 
2013-09-07 10:44:25 AM  
I hate the new 3D satellite mode the current Google Maps uses because it's too confusing and slow to load, so I use Classic Maps. Lately I've been considering switching over from an Android phone to a Nokia Windows phone, for one being that Nokia Maps are available offline.
 
2013-09-07 10:44:53 AM  
This is why I don't try any new google services.   I'm not willing to get used to something and have the carpet pulled out from under me.

I'm waiting for google to cancel Gmail.
 
2013-09-07 10:47:33 AM  

exboyracer: The new Google maps sucks - I can't figure out how to get rid of the big search box that takes up most of the screen.  I will miss the wiki feature.


The new one does suck penis, but i think they are still in beta with it.

I mean, as it is, you can't have a multi-destination route. They can't possibly leave that kind of thing out of the final.
 
2013-09-07 10:52:48 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: When I was in the market for a house, Google real estate search in maps was da bomb. Then, one day....it was gone.

I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.

Google sync was handy to link my work and personal calendar....gone...

So, you think I'm interested in taking advantage of anything else new they offer in the future? No thanks, I'll still with email and internet searches.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-07 11:01:38 AM  
TFA is just a bunch of wikinerds biatching about it.  No practical examples about their "research".

I never knew it existed, and I don't care.

/and I'm sure this had something to do with Google Glass...
 
2013-09-07 11:07:57 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: When I was in the market for a house, Google real estate search in maps was da bomb. Then, one day....it was gone.

I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.

Google sync was handy to link my work and personal calendar....gone...

So, you think I'm interested in taking advantage of anything else new they offer in the future? No thanks, I'll still with email and internet searches.


Yeah I am slowly disengaging myself from Google.

The same thing happened to them that always happens. The visionaries who built the company are replaced with sociopaths.
 
2013-09-07 11:08:57 AM  
I am totally aghast that a for-profit enterprise would cease to exploit not-for-profit resources for its own products.  It's almost as if they didn't want to do evil, in complete contravention of company principles.

Oh wait.
 
2013-09-07 11:12:27 AM  
The new version of Maps on Android just farking sucks. No more +/- zoom buttons - there's an awkward tap-then-slide move for zooming, that's it. When you tap the button to sync the map to the GPS, it decides that you want to zoom in all the way. Uh, no, I want the zoom to stay the same - especially with the awkward new zoom method.

There's a lot of that Jobsian "we know what's best for you, so fark you" in the new version. One Steve Jobs was bad enough, we don't need another one. WTF, Google? If I wanted Apple Maps I'd buy an iPhone.

Then there's its sheer crashiness. I was in Cape Girardeau, MO, trying to do a local search, and it decided, "fark it, I don't want to work anymore," and crashed. I tried restarting it... insta-crash. I tried rebooting the phone and restarting it... insta-crash. I uninstalled the update and reverted to the original version, and it worked fine. Did they even bother to test the new version before foisting it on us?

If you've got ICS or Jelly Bean, you can at least revert back to something that works. If you're getting something new enough to come with Kat Krap installed, you're farked.
 
2013-09-07 11:16:36 AM  
This is a personal appeal from the founder of this post.

/I have no idea what I'm doing
 
2013-09-07 11:24:48 AM  

chumster: I am totally aghast that a for-profit enterprise would cease to exploit not-for-profit resources for its own products.  It's almost as if they didn't want to do evil, in complete contravention of company principles.

Oh wait.


The problem is Google emphatically touts being the exception to the rule rather than the definition (which it actually is).
 
2013-09-07 11:27:50 AM  

Fubegra: There's a lot of that Jobsian "we know what's best for you, so fark you" in the new version.


Spot on, except that Microsoft also does this big time, see Windows 8 and every new version of Office.

For those of you sticking with Gmail, how are you liking the new forced compose box?  All of this user interface FU shiat is like going to mcdonalds and they decided to reshape their hamburgers as triangles and serve them with three pre-defined sets of toppings, and one specific size of fries.   No you can't have ketchup, we got rid of that, it's only russian dressing now.  Can you imagine?
 
2013-09-07 11:36:55 AM  
All hail corporatism!

"Why allow free flow of technology and ideas for the benefit of all when we can do it worse for twice the profit!"
 
2013-09-07 11:40:37 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.


iGoogle is still a thing, though only until November 1.  Or do you mean the mobile version?
 
2013-09-07 11:48:12 AM  
I AM SO MAD THIS STUFF I AM IN NO WAY OBLIGATED TO USE AND DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR SUCKS!
 
2013-09-07 11:56:14 AM  

Bacontastesgood: Fubegra: There's a lot of that Jobsian "we know what's best for you, so fark you" in the new version.

Spot on, except that Microsoft also does this big time, see Windows 8 and every new version of Office.


I'm sure they have done some research (maybe valid) and are trying to make the products easy to use for the largest number of people, and you people who have ever tried to help a relative use a computer know that can be a very low bar.

I would really like if they added an adult pro setting that was hard to get to but allowed you to get rid of the second guessing and customize a more streamlined experience.
 
2013-09-07 12:08:34 PM  
As much of a Google fanboy as I am, if they ever kill Scholar or Search by Image I am switching to Bing out of spite.

/Scholar has been a godsend for me in college
//and I have discovered so much fantastic porn through Search by Image
 
2013-09-07 12:24:56 PM  
I really don't understand what problems any of these new updates Google Maps are designed to fix. Or does Google simply feel the need to update shiat for the sake of updating it; because that's what it feels like. I hate the latest Gmail interface, I hate the new maps and no, I won't get over it. I don't have to and I'm not... I've moved on.
 
2013-09-07 12:46:58 PM  
I learned what Wikipedia layer was today.
 
2013-09-07 12:48:46 PM  
This is why I'm not particularly looking forward to Google Internet coming to Austin. Sure, the speed will be great, but I know they're going to screw us over every other way.
 
2013-09-07 12:51:15 PM  
Yeah, I'm trying to wean myself off google as well.  I just have a problem with them arbitrarily nuking things.
 
2013-09-07 01:05:44 PM  

Wogus: I really don't understand what problems any of these new updates Google Maps are designed to fix. Or does Google simply feel the need to update shiat for the sake of updating it; because that's what it feels like. I hate the latest Gmail interface, I hate the new maps and no, I won't get over it. I don't have to and I'm not... I've moved on.


In many organizations, people are paid to change things. Their job is supposed to make things better for the customer. However, if they can't justify their jobs through a regular cycle of changes, they no longer get paid. So they change things no matter if they improve things or make things worse. Usually they really hope that the changes are positive, but even if they screw up it just gives them their next project to work on.
 
2013-09-07 01:11:41 PM  
Google has sucked since they moved to Israel.
 
2013-09-07 01:39:56 PM  

TyrantII: My question is why isn't there a way to put a radar overlay onto google maps?

Seems to me it be real convenient and useful.


Check out an app called "Raindar"
 
2013-09-07 01:53:08 PM  

fisker: I learned what Wikipedia layer was today.


I did not, and a google search didn't turn up much that was particularly useful. (Where do I go to find out about Google or Wikipedia - those are where I go to find out about everything else!) What is it?
 
2013-09-07 01:57:09 PM  

ubermensch: TyrantII: My question is why isn't there a way to put a radar overlay onto google maps?

Seems to me it be real convenient and useful.

Check out an app called "Raindar"


That's a separate app and not an overlay. I've wondered why we can't get a WeatherUnderground fullscreen mode on Android. Even in the phone's browser, the current conditions block and watch block take up most of the phone's screen, rendering the radar useless.

As far as apps go, I'm a huge fan of PYKL3. It's probably overkill for most folks, but I'm a weather geek.  Still, I love it and can't recommend it enough.
 
2013-09-07 02:06:52 PM  

ubermensch: TyrantII: My question is why isn't there a way to put a radar overlay onto google maps?

Seems to me it be real convenient and useful.

Check out an app called "Raindar"


Does it keep all the functionality of google maps?
 
2013-09-07 02:38:34 PM  

ubermensch: TyrantII: My question is why isn't there a way to put a radar overlay onto google maps?

Seems to me it be real convenient and useful.

Check out an app called "Raindar"


Does Rudolph the Red know about it?
 
2013-09-07 02:43:45 PM  
yawn
 
2013-09-07 03:04:15 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: fisker: I learned what Wikipedia layer was today.

I did not, and a google search didn't turn up much that was particularly useful. (Where do I go to find out about Google or Wikipedia - those are where I go to find out about everything else!) What is it?


It was a point-of-interest system that turned Google Maps into the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Great on a road trip when you need a break and wonder if there's anything to do nearby. You were going to pull in to McDonald's for a burger, but now you know that 5 minutes off the highway there's a 1-stoplight town that's notable only for its 50s diner stand in the shape of a giant hot dog. Or that some tiny sliver of a lake, barely a mile long, with neither markings nor a name on the main map, is actually a reservoir that's regularly stocked with fish, and features a miniscule regional park.

The value add wasn't for navigation, it was for exploration: answering questions of the form "what could possibly be of interest over there?"
/echoes the other sentiments about current trends in UX and business models that increasingly subject the user to unwanted "upgrades" to reflect said trends.
 
2013-09-07 03:09:35 PM  
Sounds like a business opportunity.
 
2013-09-07 03:23:54 PM  

Thunderboy: SecretAgentWoman: I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.

iGoogle is still a thing, though only until November 1.  Or do you mean the mobile version?


As soon as they made the announcement, I looked for alternatives. Why would I stay to the bitter end? Which, btw, is only a couple of months away so I'm not quite sure what your point is.
 
2013-09-07 03:52:19 PM  
The Dickipedia layer is still functioning. I can still find the most active highway rest areas.
 
2013-09-07 06:20:40 PM  
All the free shiat I wasn't paying for is suddenly gone!
I demand my money back!!
 
2013-09-07 08:03:24 PM  
It would be nice if there was something like Google where the users were the customers.
 
2013-09-07 08:27:25 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Thunderboy: SecretAgentWoman: I used to love my customized iGoogle page. Gone.

iGoogle is still a thing, though only until November 1.  Or do you mean the mobile version?

Why would I stay to the bitter end? Which, btw, is only a couple of months away so I'm not quite sure what your point is.


My point was that you said it was "gone", when it isn't.  And I know how long it will be around - I put the offline date in my post.

Just making conversation, sorry.
 
2013-09-07 09:53:37 PM  

skinink: I hate the new 3D satellite mode the current Google Maps uses because it's too confusing and slow to load, so I use Classic Maps. Lately I've been considering switching over from an Android phone to a Nokia Windows phone, for one being that Nokia Maps are available offline.


I just use <a href="http://osmand.net/ ">OSMAnd</a> - offline maps, offline routing, and in many cases actually has more detail than Google's maps do (e.g. trails, speed limits, etc in many places).
 
2013-09-07 10:20:49 PM  
Google doesn't care how useful you find something. If it's not making them tons of cash it's potentially on the chopping block.

/Learned that lesson with Reader.
 
2013-09-07 10:50:05 PM  
You'll get over it.
 
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