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(NPR)   USDA quietly lifts ban on processed chicken from China. The added melamine, H7N9 and lead will now be known as 'flavor enhancers'   (npr.org) divider line 175
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2013-09-06 11:52:23 AM
Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow.
 
2013-09-06 11:57:55 AM
Why limit poisonous food from China to only dogs? Let's spin that wheel!
 
2013-09-06 11:59:25 AM
This way sounds more profitable, so let's do it.
 
2013-09-06 12:06:12 PM
Big deal. We'll all adapt to eating that shiat. Might as well worry about all the different chemicals in the air around us that didn't exist 100 years ago as well.
 
2013-09-06 12:06:18 PM
Maybe some day people will start caring where their food comes from. Oh who am I kidding?  Hey look Wal Mart has chicken nuggets for half the price of fresh chicken.
 
2013-09-06 12:06:29 PM
I only eat organic chicken mcnuggets.
 
2013-09-06 12:06:49 PM
Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?
 
2013-09-06 12:08:43 PM
The food safety issue aside, the energy used to transport chicken to China and back is enormous. It boggles the mind that it is cheaper to process it overseas when all energy costs are considered.
 
2013-09-06 12:09:04 PM
www.vitamin-ha.com
 
2013-09-06 12:11:57 PM

fenianfark: The food safety issue aside, the energy used to transport chicken to China and back is enormous. It boggles the mind that it is cheaper to process it overseas when all energy costs are considered.


They only go one way, and they fly them business class.
 
2013-09-06 12:12:37 PM

fenianfark: The food safety issue aside, the energy used to transport chicken to China and back is enormous. It boggles the mind that it is cheaper to process it overseas when all energy costs are considered.


I was thinking that.
 
2013-09-06 12:13:04 PM

styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?


They'll keep our chickens and sell us back Vietnamese catfish as chicken nuggets.
 
2013-09-06 12:13:11 PM
i would assume the shipping cost would make this impractical, but clearly that's not the case.
 
2013-09-06 12:13:29 PM
theinfosphere.org
 
2013-09-06 12:13:49 PM

stuhayes2010: I only eat organic chicken mcnuggets.


So you will pay triple for the same processed cat meat.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-06 12:13:50 PM
Lead acetate is a flavor enhancer.
 
2013-09-06 12:14:47 PM

tricycleracer: styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?

They'll keep our chickens and sell us back Vietnamese catfish as chicken nuggets.


to be fair, vietnamese catfish is delicious, a little germy, but delicious.
 
2013-09-06 12:15:17 PM
So, the USDA sent an inspector back in March...everything looked good...so, we're all cool now.  They promised to keep doing things exactly like they were in March so we don't need any oversight anymore.

Done and done.

Thanks Obama (no, seriously, this shiat is because the administration wants to be "nice" to China - fark them).
 
2013-09-06 12:15:44 PM
styckx
Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.
Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?


I think the goal is for China to get their foot in the door so they can eventually use Chinese chickens. And since the US Chicken industry wants to export American chickens to China they are not necessarily objecting to at least the first part of the plan.

\There should be some decent jokes here, what is the difference between an American and a Chinese Chicken? Why did the Chinese Chicken cross the road?
 
2013-09-06 12:15:58 PM
They closed a chicken processing plant in Douglas, GA a year or so ago. Put a lot of chicken farmers out of business, in GA and FL. I guess they figure Americans want to eat the fancy imported bird from China. Sounds more impressive at a dinner party.
 
2013-09-06 12:16:03 PM

blacksharpiemarker: [www.vitamin-ha.com image 600x439]


Haha nice....thread over....
 
2013-09-06 12:16:05 PM
Does Obamacare cover tumors and other shiat we could contract from this trash chicken?
 
2013-09-06 12:16:06 PM
Melamine Seaborgium is delicious!
 
2013-09-06 12:16:23 PM
I wonder why there is an uptick in things like:
Cancer
ADD/ADHD
Autism
Allergies
Etc.

Surely it is just we are better at diagnosing these things now and not at all related to the chemicals and processed foods we ingest - I mean our government will go to war in strange lands to keep us safe, surely they would not let regulations lax that might cause the food we eat to be unsafe - that would be like saying they do not care about the environment and the air we breath and water we drink, and we all know the government is all about keeping natural resources secure and safe for us. Because the government cares about us.
 
2013-09-06 12:16:25 PM

vernonFL: Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow.


Cashew cat?
 
2013-09-06 12:17:41 PM
So for now, chickens are raised in the US, go from the US to China for processing, and then back to the US for, what, food? But later on we'll eliminate the US chicken ranchers and have our food grown in China? There's no way any of that could end horribly.
 
2013-09-06 12:18:00 PM
The flava enhanca!

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2013-09-06 12:18:58 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: So, the USDA sent an inspector back in March...everything looked good...so, we're all cool now.  They promised to keep doing things exactly like they were in March so we don't need any oversight anymore.

Done and done.

Thanks Obama every administration from the 1990s until the end of time (no, seriously, this shiat is because the administration wants to be "nice" to China - fark them).


Don't think it started or will stop here, regardless of who's elected. I suggest you get used to it, 'cause that's the only recourse anyone has left.
 
2013-09-06 12:19:20 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: So, the USDA sent an inspector back in March...everything looked good...so, we're all cool now.  They promised to keep doing things exactly like they were in March so we don't need any oversight anymore.

Done and done.

Thanks Obama (no, seriously, this shiat is because the administration wants to be "nice" to China - fark them).


Not only that, but they're making believe that sending a chicken to China doesn't involve feeding it anything once it arrives in China.  Then once it's there, you're going to somehow know from the pieces that this is the same chicken that left North America.

This is a recipe for Chinese Chicken.

/you take a drumstick and your brain stops tickin
 
2013-09-06 12:19:35 PM

styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?


It probably costs them less to do that than to hire some American schmuck part time and pay him minimum wage and no health benefits to do it here, even when you factor in the cost of shipping.
 
2013-09-06 12:19:47 PM
Stop compraining about chitty chicken, ok
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2013-09-06 12:19:48 PM
Is chicken *processing* so labor intensive that it's even remotely arguable that lower labor costs can justify shipping chickens there and back again?

I could see maybe an argument about centralization -- if you're building one processing plant to serve the world, why not put it in China?
But most supply chains these days seem to be moving *away* from centralized production and gratuitous shipping, due high-and-rising fuel costs and the continuing erosion of the cost savings of operating in China. (Increasing wages/conditions for workers, more competition for services, better higher-tech robots becoming available, etc -- all trends are pointing to Chinese operation fairly quickly becoming not cheap enough to justify the shipping costs).

It seems like an odd thing for Food, Inc. to even *want* in the first place.
 
2013-09-06 12:20:21 PM
Why did the chinese chicken cross the road? To get the fark out of china.

/fark china
 
2013-09-06 12:20:45 PM
more terrifyingly ftfa; meat inspection in this nation is going to be turned over to the companies, rather than the "independent" usda.  the poultry companies will be responsible for regulating themselves.  that always turns out for the best.

And, chicken lovers, brace yourselves: There's more. A report suggests chicken inspections here in the U.S. might be poised to take a turn for the worse. The Government Accountability Office this week it has serious "questions about the validity" of the new procedures for inspecting poultry across the country.

Basically, these changes would replace many USDA inspectors on chicken processing lines with employees from the poultry companies themselves. The USDA has been piloting the new procedures, which will save money and significantly speed up processing lines, in 29 chicken plants. As The Washington Post , the plan is to roll out the new procedures eventually to "most of the country's 239 chicken and 96 turkey plants."
The problem? According to the GAO, the USDA did a poor job of evaluating the effectiveness of the pilot programs it has in place.

As a result, the report concludes, it's hard to justify the USDA's conclusions that the new procedures will do a better job than current approaches at cutting down on the number of dangerous bacteria like salmonella that pop up on the birds that will later end up on our dinner tables.

Still, the USDA maintains that the changes will, in fact, boost food safety. In a published on Food Safety News, USDA food safety and inspections administrator writes, "If finalized and implemented broadly, this new inspection system would enable [USDA inspectors] to better fulfill our food safety mission. Nothing in the GAO's report contradicts this basic fact."
 
2013-09-06 12:21:11 PM
Farmers markets, people. Real food. Real fresh. Grown really locally.
 
2013-09-06 12:21:22 PM
So. We inspected the plant six months ago and everything was good. We allow them to process food for us NOW, six months later without oversight and trust that they are doing the same things they were doing to get us to give them the USDA seal of approval.

Got it.

/f*ck this noise! Get some full time inspectors in those plants f*cking pronto! this is our health you're f*cking with just to kiss the ass of the Chinese government
 
2013-09-06 12:21:24 PM
so, this affects processed chickens.  um, when i buy a whole chicken, how much processing went into it?
 
2013-09-06 12:21:52 PM
Chickity China, the Chinese chicken
You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin'

So prophetic.
 
2013-09-06 12:21:57 PM

fenianfark: The food safety issue aside, the energy used to transport chicken to China and back is enormous. It boggles the mind that it is cheaper to process it overseas when all energy costs are considered.


The majority of import/exports between China and the US is a flow of manufactured products TO the US.  This means that we often are sending empty ships across the pacific just so we can keep the steady stream of cheap imports up.  Better to find SOMETHING to put on those ships than to keep them empty.  This is why we've started sending them our trash.
 
2013-09-06 12:21:59 PM

Tom_Slick: Maybe some day people will start caring where their food comes from. Oh who am I kidding?  Hey look Wal Mart has chicken nuggets for half the price of fresh chicken.


Why do people attack the Wally World? Don't like it, don't shop there. For me, I know its certainly not cheaper than anywhere else. However, I do like the fact that every single instance of Wally World stocks exactly the same items. Albertsons or Smiths are always hit or miss on any given (non-staple) item.

/shop for a family of five - grocery store lay-out and in-stock confidence have a lot to do with why I'm willing (or unwilling) to go inside.
 
2013-09-06 12:22:02 PM
 
2013-09-06 12:22:19 PM
Because oversight and regulations are expensive and bad for FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM
 
2013-09-06 12:22:39 PM
FTFA: "The USDA's decision comes with a backdrop of long-running trade disputes over meat between the U.S. and China. In a nutshell: China banned U.S. beef exports in 2003 after a case of mad cow disease turned up in a Washington state cow. Then, when the bird flu virus broke out widely among Asian bird flocks in 2004, the U.S. blocked imports of Chinese poultry. China challenged that decision in front of the World Trade Organization, which ruled in China's favor in 2010."

So, prior to 2004, Chinese poultry was allowed in the US?  Or am I reading this wrong?
 
2013-09-06 12:22:49 PM

A Fark Handle: tricycleracer: styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?

They'll keep our chickens and sell us back Vietnamese catfish as chicken nuggets.

to be fair, vietnamese catfish is delicious, a little germy, but delicious.


The TV show is pretty good too.
 
2013-09-06 12:23:11 PM

King Something: styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?

It probably costs them less to do that than to hire some American schmuck part time and pay him minimum wage and no health benefits to do it here, even when you factor in the cost of shipping.


Isn't processing 99% mechanical at this point?
 
2013-09-06 12:23:24 PM

styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?


Kinda like the what the British Invasion did with our Blues & Rock 'n' Roll but with more diarrhea.
 
2013-09-06 12:23:48 PM

pute kisses like a man: so, this affects processed chickens.  um, when i buy a whole chicken, how much processing went into it?


You sound easily confused.
 
2013-09-06 12:24:00 PM

A Fark Handle: meat inspection in this nation is going to be turned over to the companies, rather than the "independent" usda


This will work about as well as Wall Street regulating itself.  But I find it hard to believe they went this far and didn't perhaps also ban the reporting on the spread of food borne illness.
 
2013-09-06 12:24:14 PM

Primitive Screwhead: styckx: Initially, these processors will only be allowed to export chicken products made from birds that were raised in the U.S. and Canada.

Wait... Are we seriously exporting chicken to China so they can cook it and export it back to us?

Kinda like the what the British Invasion did with our Blues & Rock 'n' Roll but with more diarrhea.


God damn that's hilariously accurate..
 
2013-09-06 12:25:15 PM

Enemabag Jones: I think the goal is for China to get their foot in the door so they can eventually use Chinese chickens.


I had a drumstick and my brain stopped ticking.
 
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