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(Telegraph)   Ten most pretentious films of all time. Notice I didn't say "movies"; movies are for mouth-breathers who watch mindless action crap on their TVs, whereas I watch films in the cinema   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 145
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2013-09-06 09:57:26 AM  
It's not a bad list if you're looking for stuff that's pretty mainstream. I mean, don't get me wrong..."films" used to be pretty edgy, but the reality is that everybody's making them now and there's really hardly any difference between a film and a movie anymore. If you're looking for true pretention you need to be searching out  pieces, and the ones I'm thinking about are extremely obscure.I pretty much doubt anybody here has heard of them. But yeah, for most people, this list works fine.
 
2013-09-06 10:21:40 AM  
movies are for mouth-breathers who watch mindless action crap on their TVs

The ironic thing is that there is arguably more pretentiousness on TV right now than there is in movies.

Hell, if you want to go by the dictionary definition of the word, Lost, one of the most popular and successful shows of the last 10 years, was one of the most oppressively pretentious shows ever broadcast.

Generally what people mean when they say "pretentious" is "I don't get it." Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it was pretentious. There may be nothing to "get."

P.S. I totally agree with the author that Tree of Life was a pretentious piece of sh*t by the way.
 
2013-09-06 10:24:32 AM  
 
2013-09-06 10:29:57 AM  
Yeah I don't think you can get more pretentious then Tree of Life

I wanted to punch some upscale New Yorker after watching that just to correct the Karma in the universe
 
2013-09-06 10:30:20 AM  
Not only have I not seen any of these movies, I haven't even heard of any of them.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing or neither.
 
2013-09-06 10:30:23 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Generally what people mean when they say "pretentious" is "I don't get it."


That's not fair. They may mean, "Whar's the splosions?"
 
2013-09-06 10:30:50 AM  
Wouldn't they be talkies?
 
2013-09-06 10:31:06 AM  
Surprisingly perceptive list.  Some of that stuff should come with a potential for bleeding eyeballs warning.
 
2013-09-06 10:35:06 AM  
Just put Terrence Malick's whole filmography down on the list and be done with it.
 
2013-09-06 10:38:10 AM  

yequalsy: Some of that stuff should come with a potential for bleeding eyeballs warning.


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I think this film came with one.


/I want you to know...
 
2013-09-06 10:39:33 AM  
Sadly, he starts out by trying to define pretentious as a variation of "overrated."


Back to watching Sharknado.
 
2013-09-06 10:39:34 AM  
I'm really tired of people slapping the word "pretentious" on shiat, just because.


Apparently, so is the author of TFA:
But "pretentious" is a word that now appears to have expanded from its original definition to mean, among other things, "snobby and intellectual", or "black and white, with subtitles", or "I don't understand it, so it's tosh".
 
2013-09-06 10:40:04 AM  

mekki: Just put Terrence Malick's whole filmography down on the list and be done with it.


For some reason, I was picturing Malcom McDowell (he played someone named Terrance in entourage), so I had to double check what Terrence Malick looked like. The unintentional hilarity of this picture just made my day:
 
2013-09-06 10:40:18 AM  

mekki: Just put Terrence Malick's whole filmography down on the list and be done with it.


I almost took a jab at him. Christ, but Thin Red Line was pretentious.
 
2013-09-06 10:41:19 AM  
I know it's cool to hate "Tree of Life," but I liked it. I liked the dreamlike sensation it created. And "Badlands" is a favorite of mine. If you can't appreciate "Badlands," I don't even want to know you.
 
2013-09-06 10:43:23 AM  

someonelse: I know it's cool to hate "Tree of Life," but I liked it. I liked the dreamlike sensation it created. And "Badlands" is a favorite of mine. If you can't appreciate "Badlands," I don't even want to know you.


Badlands is proof positive that like a blind squirrel, Terrence Malick can find a nut every great now and then.
 
2013-09-06 10:43:24 AM  

redmid17: mekki: Just put Terrence Malick's whole filmography down on the list and be done with it.

For some reason, I was picturing Malcom McDowell (he played someone named Terrance in entourage), so I had to double check what Terrence Malick looked like. The unintentional hilarity of this picture just made my day:


Well fark liked it in the preview and imgur doesn't like it either.

Eh  http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/terrence-malick-image.jpg
 
2013-09-06 10:46:08 AM  
Not one Gwenyth Paltrow movie?
 
2013-09-06 10:49:05 AM  
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/I see that you have a cabbage
//Le Fromage Grande
 
2013-09-06 10:49:32 AM  
It is time for the word "pretentious" to join "epic" in the Cupboard of Words We Need to Stop Using for Awhile.
 
2013-09-06 10:52:36 AM  

Mateorocks: Not one Gwenyth Paltrow movie?


She's not talented enough to be pretentious, she's delusional.

I'm 1/10 on the list. I've only seen Tree Of Life and I'm clearly not intelligent enough to 'get it'. I want to see Holy Motors though, on Filmspotting's recommendation.
 
2013-09-06 10:52:37 AM  
Ne Fellini? List is Le Garbage!
 
2013-09-06 10:53:23 AM  

Gunny Highway: It is time for the word "pretentious" to join "epic" in the Cupboard of Words We Need to Stop Using for Awhile.


Awesome idea! Really, really awesome!
 
2013-09-06 10:59:42 AM  
I haven't seen Tree of Life, but Days of Heaven and The New World do reward a watcher willing to meet them at the gates.  I'm less enamored of Badlands, simply because I don't like valorization of serial killers, but it's stuck with me.  I've struggled with The Thin Red Line.

Used to be Last Year at Marienbad was the poster for art house pretention, with L'Avventura as a lieutenant, but those aren't watched much anymore.
 
2013-09-06 11:00:19 AM  
I don't know if I'd call it pretentious, but I found Inland Empire quite infuriating.
 
2013-09-06 11:01:00 AM  
The article, by the way, gets into one sense of 'pretention' - long, dolorous.  But someone like Wes Anderson is also highly pretentious.  You may like his movies - and I like a few - but The Royal Tennenbaums and The Life Aquatic are the definition of the word.
 
2013-09-06 11:03:05 AM  

LeroyBourne: I don't know if I'd call it pretentious, but I found Inland Empire quite infuriating.


That thing was sheer torture.
 
2013-09-06 11:06:25 AM  
Also, stunning that David Lynch didn't make the list.  He's pretentious out the wazoo.  Just insufferable.  Hell, the DVD of Mullholland Drive has no chapter breaks because you're supposed to watch the whole thing, beginning to end, with no breaks.  The thing would be unwatchable if not for the lesbians.
 
2013-09-06 11:07:36 AM  
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2013-09-06 11:08:49 AM  
Satantango. That is all.
 
2013-09-06 11:09:25 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Yeah I don't think you can get more pretentious then Tree of Life

I wanted to punch some upscale New Yorker after watching that just to correct the Karma in the universe


The universe was created just so Sean Penn could have daddy issues.
 
2013-09-06 11:10:37 AM  

redmid17: Not only have I not seen any of these movies, I haven't even heard of any of them.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing or neither.


This.

And it's a good thing. Means you don't watch shiat for shiat's sake.
 
2013-09-06 11:24:24 AM  
Does the list insist upon itself?
 
2013-09-06 11:33:06 AM  
I watched "The Master" last night. I'm a big fan of PT Anderson, but good lord that was a big stinky piece of bland nothing.
 
kab
2013-09-06 11:38:31 AM  
Pretentious around here apparently = something other than Snakes on a Plane.
 
2013-09-06 11:39:08 AM  

EyeballKid: yequalsy: Some of that stuff should come with a potential for bleeding eyeballs warning.

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I think this film came with one.


/I want you to know...


*tiny fist*
 
2013-09-06 11:41:14 AM  

kab: Pretentious around here apparently = something other than Snakes on a Plane.


I really hate the dog and clown show Air Bud turned into.  Such a shame.
 
kab
2013-09-06 11:41:39 AM  

Hebalo: I watched "The Master" last night. I'm a big fan of PT Anderson, but good lord that was a big stinky piece of bland nothing.


Yep...Top notch acting pared with a sub-par storyline.  Quite a shame, really.
 
2013-09-06 11:48:41 AM  
No Enter the Void? That was probably the most pretentious film I've ever seen.
 
2013-09-06 11:49:35 AM  

someonelse: I know it's cool to hate "Tree of Life," but I liked it. I liked the dreamlike sensation it created. And "Badlands" is a favorite of mine. If you can't appreciate "Badlands," I don't even want to know you.


This. His movies are beautiful. Ask your favorite director what they think of Terrence Malik.
 
2013-09-06 11:52:51 AM  
Trail of Dead:  Ask your favorite director what they think of Terrence Malik.

They will SAY all kinds of things about his genius or artistic vision. But inside they will be thinking "What a pretentious, overblown prick."
 
2013-09-06 11:53:41 AM  
I really liked Holy Motors, if nothing else just to see Denis Lavant shift from character to character. Amazing acting. And I'm still not sure if anything in the movie was "real", or if even the limo scenes were a performance.
 
2013-09-06 11:54:08 AM  
Waking Life.  The list is not complete without Waking Life.

It's not even a film, it's a series of disconnected monologues.  Calling it "a snooze" is an insult to the fine institution of sleep.
 
2013-09-06 11:56:57 AM  
Crash. Now THAT was some pretentious bullshiat right there. The actual definition of the word. I don't even want to hate-fark that pretentious POS.
 
2013-09-06 11:57:02 AM  

someonelse: LeroyBourne: I don't know if I'd call it pretentious, but I found Inland Empire quite infuriating.

That thing was sheer torture.


Yep.  oh, this looks like the end....nope.....ok, well this part looks like some kind of climatic ending...nope.  ok this has to be the end....nope...WHEN THE FARK ARE YOU GONNA STOP!!
 
2013-09-06 11:57:11 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Also, stunning that David Lynch didn't make the list.  He's pretentious out the wazoo.  Just insufferable.  Hell, the DVD of Mullholland Drive has no chapter breaks because you're supposed to watch the whole thing, beginning to end, with no breaks.  The thing would be unwatchable if not for the lesbians.


HULK DISAGREES
 
2013-09-06 11:58:51 AM  

Yelnik: Waking Life.  The list is not complete without Waking Life.

It's not even a film, it's a series of disconnected monologues.  Calling it "a snooze" is an insult to the fine institution of sleep.


I would agree with you if that film wasn't my life story.  I walk around aimlessly everyday, weirdly animated, and I am pretty sure I am dead.
 
2013-09-06 11:59:37 AM  

Trail of Dead: Crash. Now THAT was some pretentious bullshiat right there. The actual definition of the word. I don't even want to hate-fark that pretentious POS.


You talking about the "car crash = sex" movie, or the "racism is bad" movie?
 
2013-09-06 12:01:08 PM  
This list not withstanding, can you still call a movie made today a "Film" when it was made with digital media?

/whereas I watch films digitals in the cinema
 
2013-09-06 12:05:23 PM  
Mulholland Drive is on my top 10 list. Blue Velvet is a pretentious disaster IMHO. Some people make masterpieces by accident.

Baz Luhrmann... Why isn't he on this list?
 
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