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2013-09-06 01:57:48 AM
Whey!
 
2013-09-06 11:54:38 AM
Corruption in the corporate culture?
 
2013-09-06 12:04:26 PM
The e Coli is what makes it sour.
 
2013-09-06 12:08:19 PM

rjedw: Corruption in the corporate culture?


Indeed.

I personally have been ill with loose stools and gastrointestinal distress for almost 3 weeks because of it.  I  had 4 containers that were separated and much tangy-er than normal.

My cat enjoys licking the tops of the containers when I tear them off.  She became sick a day after I did.  The vet told me she had a fever, bloating, and a possible bacterial infection.  He gave me Keflex to give her and she gradually returned to normal.

I already wrote the company a letter.  They lost me until such time as they are forthcoming about what the hell went wrong in that plant.
 
2013-09-06 12:11:08 PM
Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?

Not pimping but just a satisfied customer.

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/viili-yogurt-starter.html

and here's a youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ZXWB6mOWE

You put milk in a jar, pour in your starter, put the covered jar in a cool dark place, come back in a few hours, put jar in frig.

70 t0 78 degrees culture temp.

Plus I pour some in an ice cube tray, freeze them, the put the cubes in a plastic bag in freezer. Two cubes per quart of milk makes new yogurt.

A--farking--men
 
2013-09-06 12:23:09 PM
Uh, that ice cube tray thing is my invention. And I have what I consider a healthy immune system. So I'd skip that last suggestion if I were you.
 
2013-09-06 12:24:40 PM
another said it tasted like "wine."

Sounds like my kind of yogurt.
 
2013-09-06 12:26:56 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?

Not pimping but just a satisfied customer.

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/viili-yogurt-starter.html

and here's a youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ZXWB6mOWE

You put milk in a jar, pour in your starter, put the covered jar in a cool dark place, come back in a few hours, put jar in frig.

70 t0 78 degrees culture temp.

Plus I pour some in an ice cube tray, freeze them, the put the cubes in a plastic bag in freezer. Two cubes per quart of milk makes new yogurt.

A--farking--men


No need to buy a kit.  Just use a yogurt with a live and active culture as a starter and you can make it on your stovetop easy peasy. We tried this a few weeks ago and couldn't believe how delicious it was.  All you need is a thermometer and some milk, jars with a good seal (and a starter).
 
2013-09-06 12:31:31 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?


Thanks to you, kind Farker, I may never feel the need to buy commercial again!

I can see stripping the pulp out of a vanilla bean and mixing in to the cultured yogurt while it chills in the fridge.  Yum!

That is all kind of full of win!
 
2013-09-06 12:35:08 PM
brap:
No need to buy a kit.  Just use a yogurt with a live and active culture as a starter and you can make it on your stovetop easy peasy. We tried this a few weeks ago and couldn't believe how delicious it was.  All you need is a thermometer and some milk, jars with a good seal (and a starter).

Wait, so I can head to the store and buy a commercial yogurt with a live active culture and use this as a starter to make my own fresh yogurt using the same method as in the video?!

I'll be right back.....gotta hit the store.
 
2013-09-06 12:38:37 PM

brap: TheShavingofOccam123: Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?

Not pimping but just a satisfied customer.

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/viili-yogurt-starter.html

and here's a youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ZXWB6mOWE

You put milk in a jar, pour in your starter, put the covered jar in a cool dark place, come back in a few hours, put jar in frig.

70 t0 78 degrees culture temp.

Plus I pour some in an ice cube tray, freeze them, the put the cubes in a plastic bag in freezer. Two cubes per quart of milk makes new yogurt.

A--farking--men

No need to buy a kit.  Just use a yogurt with a live and active culture as a starter and you can make it on your stovetop easy peasy. We tried this a few weeks ago and couldn't believe how delicious it was.  All you need is a thermometer and some milk, jars with a good seal (and a starter).


I still use heat sometimes to make different cultures. But with villi you pour your milk out of the carton into a jar, add your culture, put a cover on it, then put the jar in a cool dark place for a few hours then refrigerate.

There's no dirty dishes to clean up, no stove to run, nothing to plug in. Makes a good smoothie yogurt. You can add powdered dry milk (including goat's milk powder) to thicken it up.
 
2013-09-06 01:22:36 PM
From Mozilla's Fridge:

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2013-09-06 01:40:15 PM

russlar: From Mozilla's Fridge:

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Snort, Friday 9/7/2013
 
2013-09-06 01:41:01 PM

AltheaToldMe: rjedw: Corruption in the corporate culture?

Indeed.

I personally have been ill with loose stools and gastrointestinal distress for almost 3 weeks because of it.  I  had 4 containers that were separated and much tangy-er than normal.

My cat enjoys licking the tops of the containers when I tear them off.  She became sick a day after I did.  The vet told me she had a fever, bloating, and a possible bacterial infection.  He gave me Keflex to give her and she gradually returned to normal.

I already wrote the company a letter.  They lost me until such time as they are forthcoming about what the hell went wrong in that plant.


Why the fark, after having the 1st bad container, did you have THREE MORE CONTAINERS?!

And you shouldn't be giving that shiat to your cat anyway.
 
2013-09-06 01:48:04 PM
Yogurt is disgusting, one of the few things on my banned food list (right up there with mayo).

// unless it's frozen

// or tzatziki (but that's sheep/goat milk).
 
2013-09-06 01:59:44 PM
I must be missing something about the whole raw Yogurt thing.  I get it that it's healthy and all, and I'm not a fan of all the sugar the commercial brands add to the stuff.  But in its plain, raw form, all it is is badly spoiled milk, and tastes like such!
 
2013-09-06 02:15:24 PM
TheSelphie:

Why the fark, after having the 1st bad container, did you have THREE MORE CONTAINERS?!

And you shouldn't be giving that shiat to your cat anyway.


Chobani has a very tangy, tart taste anyhow, I just assumed that the flavor difference was due to the fact that I had the plain variety vs the peach that I normally like.  IIRC, I shook a couple of them before opening so the separation was not as evident.  I had no bloated tops or any funky smell or bubbles, just what seemed like a tad more whey than usual. There was no other indications that there was an issue.  No wine or bitter taste, just a wee touch more bite than normal.   Again, I chocked it up to being the plain vs the fruit.  I just stirred it up and the constancy returned.

I thought that giving the cat yogurt might be bad, so I placed a call to that vet a little bit ago advising him of my theory on the Chobani being the cause of the illness.  He advised that there was no real reason that he could think of to NOT let the cat lick the lids.  He advised moderation and no more than about a teaspoon at a time. (She's a HUGE cat)   The dregs on the lid are far less than that amount.

Pet owners do strange things as do pets.  This cat will be at the far end of the house, sound asleep, but when I tug on that foil lid, she is front and center - pronto!  She loves it which in itself is weird because she will touch no other people food - period.  She turns right around and walks away from anything but yogurt.

From now on, its homemade yogurt for me.  Since there will be no more foil topped commercial yogurt, she won't come running and I wont be guilted in to giving her any.

Lesson learned.
 
2013-09-06 02:22:48 PM

GoldSpider: I must be missing something about the whole raw Yogurt thing.  I get it that it's healthy and all, and I'm not a fan of all the sugar the commercial brands add to the stuff.  But in its plain, raw form, all it is is badly spoiled milk, and tastes like such!


Chobani tastes just like cottage cheese and is disgusting.  Regular Yoplait for me.
 
2013-09-06 02:23:00 PM
That's what you city folk get for trying to introduce too much culture
 
2013-09-06 02:29:08 PM

AltheaToldMe: TheSelphie:

Why the fark, after having the 1st bad container, did you have THREE MORE CONTAINERS?!

And you shouldn't be giving that shiat to your cat anyway.

Chobani has a very tangy, tart taste anyhow, I just assumed that the flavor difference was due to the fact that I had the plain variety vs the peach that I normally like.  IIRC, I shook a couple of them before opening so the separation was not as evident.  I had no bloated tops or any funky smell or bubbles, just what seemed like a tad more whey than usual. There was no other indications that there was an issue.  No wine or bitter taste, just a wee touch more bite than normal.   Again, I chocked it up to being the plain vs the fruit.  I just stirred it up and the constancy returned.

I thought that giving the cat yogurt might be bad, so I placed a call to that vet a little bit ago advising him of my theory on the Chobani being the cause of the illness.  He advised that there was no real reason that he could think of to NOT let the cat lick the lids.  He advised moderation and no more than about a teaspoon at a time. (She's a HUGE cat)   The dregs on the lid are far less than that amount.

Pet owners do strange things as do pets.  This cat will be at the far end of the house, sound asleep, but when I tug on that foil lid, she is front and center - pronto!  She loves it which in itself is weird because she will touch no other people food - period.  She turns right around and walks away from anything but yogurt.

From now on, its homemade yogurt for me.  Since there will be no more foil topped commercial yogurt, she won't come running and I wont be guilted in to giving her any.

Lesson learned.


Just don't give the cat the flavored yogurt if you do, only plain.  Cats are actually allergic to stuff like strawberry seeds and other stuff that flavored yogurt often contains.

I used to eat Chobani until I had to do a moratorium on anything with added sugar.  Dodged a bullet most likely.
 
2013-09-06 02:36:01 PM
TheSelphie:

Just don't give the cat the flavored yogurt if you do, only plain.  Cats are actually allergic to stuff like strawberry seeds and other stuff that flavored yogurt often contains.

I used to eat Chobani until I had to do a moratorium on anything with added sugar.  Dodged a bullet most likely.


Be glad you did.  It wasn't pleasant.  I am mostly back to normal now.

One other thing I did have to ban the cat from is drinking my iced tea.  She got a bug up her arse one day and started drinking out of my tea glass when I wasn't looking.  I got a lid for the tea and i dump ice in her water dish instead of water now.  As its melting she goes to town on it.  When the ice is no longer visible in her water dish, she pesters me for a drink by tapping the lid of my cup.

/CSB
 
2013-09-06 02:42:15 PM

AltheaToldMe: TheSelphie:

Why the fark, after having the 1st bad container, did you have THREE MORE CONTAINERS?!

And you shouldn't be giving that shiat to your cat anyway.

Chobani has a very tangy, tart taste anyhow, I just assumed that the flavor difference was due to the fact that I had the plain variety vs the peach that I normally like.  IIRC, I shook a couple of them before opening so the separation was not as evident.  I had no bloated tops or any funky smell or bubbles, just what seemed like a tad more whey than usual. There was no other indications that there was an issue.  No wine or bitter taste, just a wee touch more bite than normal.   Again, I chocked it up to being the plain vs the fruit.  I just stirred it up and the constancy returned.


I had several cups a week and a half ago that were less sweet and more tangy than usual. No obvious problems like bloating in the cups or smells. I didn't get sick and didn't care that much (though I'm happy that other cartons have tasted better since). I don't really eat that stuff for the taste.

/pissed because I happily scooped up some cherry Chobanis from Walgreens yesterday only to read about the recall after I got home...and, yes, Walgreens sold me the moldy stuff
//homemade yogurt sounds like a hassle
 
2013-09-06 02:52:16 PM
I had one or two cups of a flavor that's already tangy to begin with (key lime). Good thing I'm lazy and didn't throw out the recyclables today; I'll check the lot numbers later.

That Mozilla pic is hilarious.
 
2013-09-06 02:53:28 PM
I just checked, I have two of these in my fridge, with the appropriate production code and date, bulging suspiciously. I ate a cup of yogurt the other day, but I opted for the brand I hadn't tried before. Looks like I dodged a bullet.

Now, the microbiologist in me really wants to try to identify the culprit organism. They're calling it a "mold", so the way it's fermenting I'm thinking they got some serious yeast contamination.
 
2013-09-06 03:07:41 PM

AltheaToldMe: rjedw: Corruption in the corporate culture?

Indeed.

I personally have been ill with loose stools and gastrointestinal distress for almost 3 weeks because of it. I had 4 containers that were separated and much tangy-er than normal.

My cat enjoys licking the tops of the containers when I tear them off. She became sick a day after I did. The vet told me she had a fever, bloating, and a possible bacterial infection. He gave me Keflex to give her and she gradually returned to normal.

I already wrote the company a letter. They lost me until such time as they are forthcoming about what the hell went wrong in that plant.


Hey, you wanted active cultures, you got active cultures. Helps with the digestive motility and weight loss, they say.
 
2013-09-06 03:17:14 PM

Lukeonia1: I just checked, I have two of these in my fridge, with the appropriate production code and date, bulging suspiciously. I ate a cup of yogurt the other day, but I opted for the brand I hadn't tried before. Looks like I dodged a bullet.

Now, the microbiologist in me really wants to try to identify the culprit organism. They're calling it a "mold", so the way it's fermenting I'm thinking they got some serious yeast contamination.


Do it.
 
2013-09-06 03:49:47 PM
I have a feeling ya'll are going to milk this for all it's worth.  I do enjoy your cheesy jokes though.
 
2013-09-06 03:53:17 PM
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BAD YOGURT!

MESS YOU UP!
 
2013-09-06 04:01:58 PM
If you need another yogurt brand in the mean time Fage is WAY better.
 
2013-09-06 04:20:40 PM

Sning: If you need another yogurt brand in the mean time Fage is WAY better.


I read that this brand comes shipped with a fancy cover of parchment paper to soak up the extra whey.

If not for the fact that I can now make yogurt at home, I would be trying this brand.  It's highly recommended.
 
2013-09-06 04:22:30 PM

skinude1: I have a feeling ya'll are going to milk this for all it's worth.  I do enjoy your cheesy jokes though.


mybfolder.com
 
2013-09-06 04:24:19 PM
Stabone33:
Hey, you wanted active cultures, you got active cultures. Helps with the digestive motility and weight loss, they say.

Yeah, the wrong type of active culture can be bad to Stabone.
 
2013-09-06 04:33:55 PM
I hear Curdish rebels may be something to do with this.
 
2013-09-06 04:34:42 PM

Prophet of Loss: I hear Curdish rebels may have something to do with this.

 
2013-09-06 04:39:09 PM

AltheaToldMe: Sning: If you need another yogurt brand in the mean time Fage is WAY better.

I read that this brand comes shipped with a fancy cover of parchment paper to soak up the extra whey.

If not for the fact that I can now make yogurt at home, I would be trying this brand.  It's highly recommended.


Yep, it's the best greek yogurt I've found that's widely available.  Some of the 2% + honey is fantastic.
 
2013-09-06 05:41:42 PM
I couldn't afford Greek yogurt, so I took out a bunch of shady loans from a guy in a back alley and now I'm trying to get this German woman to pay him back.

In the mean time I just turned 50 so I'm going to go retire.
 
2013-09-06 06:17:36 PM

Sning: AltheaToldMe: Sning: If you need another yogurt brand in the mean time Fage is WAY better.

I read that this brand comes shipped with a fancy cover of parchment paper to soak up the extra whey.

If not for the fact that I can now make yogurt at home, I would be trying this brand.  It's highly recommended.

Yep, it's the best greek yogurt I've found that's widely available.  Some of the 2% + honey is fantastic.


I like Greek Gods, and it's way cheaper than most. Fage is good, and so is Muller Corners. But Greek Gods honey yogurt is our go-to brand.
 
2013-09-06 07:17:01 PM
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There's always Oikos...
 
2013-09-06 08:11:59 PM
I had some bad Chobani today, at first I noticed that the container was sticky. I thought I had just spilled something on it... Then the lid came off way too easy. I tasted a little, and it tingled on the tongue kinda like soda does. Not good.

On the website it says that most of the bad lot has been recovered. If that's true how come I win in bad food lottery, but not the real one?
 
2013-09-06 08:14:51 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?

Not pimping but just a satisfied customer.

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/viili-yogurt-starter.html


Viili is great, but technically not yogurt... One time I smuggled some dried viili in powder form into the country in a small vial... Good times.
 
2013-09-06 08:27:24 PM

Kuroshin: [cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 600x376]

There's always Oikos...


Is he a vampire? He's one along with Rob Lowe, isn't he.
 
2013-09-06 09:59:30 PM

finnished: I had some bad Chobani today, at first I noticed that the container was sticky. I thought I had just spilled something on it... Then the lid came off way too easy. I tasted a little, and it tingled on the tongue kinda like soda does. Not good.

On the website it says that most of the bad lot has been recovered. If that's true how come I win in bad food lottery, but not the real one?


Don't feel bad. I just checked the last container of Chobani in my fridge. It had the same lot number and exp dates as the recalled ones. It didn't smell weird, but there was a lot of separation. The probelm is I've eaten three other Chobanis that I bought at the same time I bought this one. I do remember one being a little gritty tastng, but I didn't get sick.
 
2013-09-06 10:01:18 PM
I bought two 12-packs of Chobani at Costco when they were on sale last month. They expired on 9/2, so I just missed the recall date. Unless they didn't bother recalling those since they've already passed. Usually buy the big packs of Wegmans house brand on account of it's cheaper, but the Costco coupon knocks that one a bit lower, so I stocked up. Seemed to work out okay.

/Didn't get any bad packs, but didn't get to a couple before the expiration date.
//Did have one a couple years back where the lid was slightly unglued, and so had gotten moldy. Which was horrifying, but nevermind that.
///Wegmans house brand has black cherry instead of peach. It's a push, in my book.
 
2013-09-07 12:02:52 AM

katerbug72: Kuroshin: [cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 600x376]

There's always Oikos...

Is he a vampire? He's one along with Rob Lowe, isn't he.



A HOT vampire! Damn...
 
2013-09-07 02:43:02 AM
...and now I'm glad that (in general) even pre-recall I felt Chobani tasted like ass in comparison to Fage and Greek Gods (much less "make yer own with a starter culture from a package of Fage"); saved me quite possibly from literal butthurt at best and a possible hospital trip at worst (thanks to a mold allergy).

And yes, if you aren't making your own cultures (or are on a trip), Fage and Greek Gods are pretty darn good.  If you can find a decent halal grocery or Greek grocery, even better, but if there is no Greektown nor decent halal grocery with some good lebna and you don't have a way to culture your own, Fage and Greek Gods are pretty good in my experience.

/if I do have honey with my yogurt, I usually put some local honey in--as in "yes, I met the guy who runs the apiary less than two miles from my house" local
//the local honey DOES supposedly help with the allergies
 
2013-09-07 01:51:41 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Why buy store bought when you can make your own yogurt without any heat or appliances?


+1 For you!!!!


You, sir, have opened a new world to MrsAltheaToldMe and I.  We cannot thank you enough!

This morning, we sat and enjoyed the most flavorful, tastiest yogurt we have ever had in our lives.  I am normally a fruit yogurt guy, but this homemade yogurt is absolutely wonderful just plain.   We were both expecting it to be sour like store-bought plain yogurt and we were sadly mistaken.  It's almost sweet!

We did a little research and then started our own batch of yogurt last night with a generic store bought plain yogurt for culture.  This morning, we drained the whey for about 1.5 hours in the fridge and consumed.

It was creamy, rich, flavorful and absolutely filling.

We made 2 batches.  One was plain, and the other one was flavored with a split vanilla bean.  We added the vanilla as we were bringing the temp of the milk up to 120F.

Because of you, my friend, we are, at this moment, making our first batch of mozzarella cheese.  The tip you provided has led us to explore a culinary journey which we never thought possible.  I started life in a food service direction and have always had a passion for food.  Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think that cultured milk products were going to be in my cadre of tricks until Fark.

Should you ever be in Central PA, we would like to offer to take you out for dinner and drinks.  Serious business.  EIP.  Please contact me if you like so I may thank you in a more personal way. Yes, I am serious about my food knowledge and you're the professor that sparked the learning.

Our next stop after the mozzarella is going to be aged cheddar.  We have already ordered some items that we are going to need for that including a rather fancy cheese press and the cheese wax.

BTW, we found a recipe for making our own mesophilic cheese culture from scratch.  I figure that with this knowledge, we should never have to buy another culture again (except for the cheddar0 and the Monterrey Jack cheese which we will be making as well.

Thanks Fark!
 
2013-09-07 02:29:32 PM
Ate some of the bad yogurt. It tasted bad--like a carbonated, fruity, alcoholic drink--but I didn't get sick.

Latest reports state that the yogurt didn't show signs of contamination when it left the Chobani plant, and that the mold responsible can only grow on yogurt at room temperature and above, That would seem to indicate that it was improperly stored at the distributor's warehouse.
 
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