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(Reuters)   Iran sends out messages to its insurgents in Iraq to attack U.S. assets: WWIII to start in next few weeks   (reuters.com) divider line 60
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2013-09-06 12:53:35 AM
Shouldn't they be doing that already?

Isn't that what insurgents do? Insurge?

Lazy damn Iranian insurgents. Let them out of Iran and they head straight for the discothèques of Baghdad.
 
2013-09-06 01:33:39 AM
US assets in Iraq at this point being mainly "people behind that giant fortress wall of the US Embassy." So...good luck with that.
 
2013-09-06 07:04:52 AM
I keep hearing the 'next big fight' is going to trigger WWIII, and yet it never actually happens. Iraq? Nope. Libya? Nope. Syria won't be the end of the world, either. Know why? Because the Russians and Chinese aren't insane. They will make every effort to talk tough and try to dissuade us from attacking Assad's forces, but if we persist, they will back down. The last thing they want is direct conflict with the US.

We managed to get through decades of proxy wars during the Cold War without nuking each other, I'm pretty sure we can manage to do it this time, too. As for the whole ME erupting because of Syria, well, that won't destroy the world, either. Between NATO (who will have the US and Turkey's back, when it comes right down to it) and Israel helping out, the Arab nations and Iran won't stand a chance. It very well could be ugly as hell, but certainly not WWIII.
 
2013-09-06 08:22:07 AM
really rooting for WWIII aren't you, subby?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-06 08:25:47 AM

MmmmBacon: We managed to get through decades of proxy wars during the Cold War without nuking each other, I'm pretty sure we can manage to do it this time, too. As for the whole ME erupting because of Syria, well, that won't destroy the world, either. Between NATO (who will have the US and Turkey's back, when it comes right down to it) and Israel helping out, the Arab nations and Iran won't stand a chance. It very well could be ugly as hell, but certainly not WW III.


I think WWIII has simply become a cliché.  I don't think it really means anything without another superpower or some large coalition of major powers who could take the USA and it's allies on.

As for Iran it's not like will hate us any more than they do now.
 
2013-09-06 08:46:34 AM

vpb: MmmmBacon: We managed to get through decades of proxy wars during the Cold War without nuking each other, I'm pretty sure we can manage to do it this time, too. As for the whole ME erupting because of Syria, well, that won't destroy the world, either. Between NATO (who will have the US and Turkey's back, when it comes right down to it) and Israel helping out, the Arab nations and Iran won't stand a chance. It very well could be ugly as hell, but certainly not WW III.

I think WWIII has simply become a cliché.  I don't think it really means anything without another superpower or some large coalition of major powers who could take the USA and it's allies on.

As for Iran it's not like will hate us any more than they do now.


I really don't think it takes another Superpower to challenge the US, though. Any nuclear power with an ICBM or two could start a world-wide catastrophe, it's just a good thing they all love their children as much as we do ours, so no nation with that kind of technology will ever use it. We shouldn't fear a battle with nuclear powers, nor even a conventional war on multiple fronts (such as what we might face soon in the Middle East). The only real threat that could do massive damage within the US is a small terror cell with biological, chemical or nuclear weapons. Thus far they have only managed small explosives (post 9/11), but if Assad or other enemies of the West were to obtain WMDs and provide them to the right terror group, we could have a real issue here.

Now then, I'm not saying we should attack Syria, in fact I'm against it. I'm of the opinion that destabilizing Assad means his chemical weapons will likely make their way into terrorist hands, potentially leading to their use here in America. While it is horrible that Assad would gas his own people (if that is indeed the case, some say it was the rebels who launched that attack), our bombing Syria isn't going to bring those people back, nor will it stop further violence against civilians by either side. I'd prefer we give Assad a choice: Leave Syria and allow a peacekeeping group of Arab nations to stabilize Syria until the government can be re-established and to prevent sectarian violence, or be tried in absentia in the Hague. If he opts for Option #2, Assad will become a prisoner in his own country, if he leaves then we arrest him, and if he stays he risks being killed by his own people.
 
2013-09-06 09:20:22 AM
The leaders of Iran should be on their prayer rugs thanking Allah for George Bush.
Saddam Hussein was the only arab leader who was willing to stand up to Iran, until Bush put a hit out on him.
 
2013-09-06 09:22:30 AM
go get Obama's Nobel peace prize!!
 
2013-09-06 09:22:42 AM
Isn't this story 10 years old?
 
2013-09-06 09:23:06 AM
One idiotic and futile attack deserves another, I guess.
 
2013-09-06 09:24:14 AM
World War 3? Over Syria? What? I'm missing something, here.
 
2013-09-06 09:26:21 AM
fark it.  Freedoms & Democracy World Tour 2013, taking all comers.  Please make sure all applications are in by Sept 9th for processing.

Lets just get the middle east "over with".
 
2013-09-06 09:26:32 AM
Kind of like slapping a grizzly bear just to make sure it's awake. Good plan Iran. Good plan.
 
2013-09-06 09:27:31 AM
It's getting a little late for this guns of August crap.
 
2013-09-06 09:28:38 AM

cameroncrazy1984: US assets in Iraq at this point being mainly "people behind that giant fortress wall of the US Embassy." So...good luck with that.


I was going to say this. That whole "Green Zone" seems pretty locked down.

Do we have troops in Iraq anymore (other than the embassy)? I thought that we were outta there...
 
2013-09-06 09:29:18 AM
Wonderful what you can do with those "intercepted" communications, am I right?

I guess we all owe the NSA a big fat unmarked non-sequential apology.
 
2013-09-06 09:33:28 AM
In case people aren't sure of what's going on here, this was the NSA and the American government telling the Iranian government "We can read your messages going back and forth, so we know what you've got planned before you even start."
 
2013-09-06 09:34:37 AM
Who gave Iran free rein in Iraq? Maybe the GOP hardliners should take a break from Benghazi hysteria and look into that
 
2013-09-06 09:36:26 AM
Hi, um... 'Islam' - - let's just eliminate it.
 
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2013-09-06 09:37:07 AM
so thats why we built a completely bomb proof self contained emabassy.

they'll huff and puff
 
2013-09-06 09:39:20 AM

Aristocles: Isn't this story 10 years old?


The story of civilized men who lack the common sense to stay out of quarrels between savages is thousands of years old - and it always ends the same.
 
2013-09-06 09:40:01 AM
Aren't we technically on World War 7 or 8 by now?
 
2013-09-06 09:41:51 AM

toraque: Aren't we technically on World War 7 or 8 by now?


yeah, i just got it for PS6 and my kid's XBox4D. it's amazing. do you wanna network me? i'm utahdude69 on there.
 
2013-09-06 09:42:19 AM
Oh how convenient.   Now anyone voting against this thing can be accused of being afraid of Iran and other such terrorist hugging bullshiat.

I wish I had that farking time machine.
 
2013-09-06 09:42:46 AM

MmmmBacon: Now then, I'm not saying we should attack Syria, in fact I'm against it. I'm of the opinion that destabilizing Assad means his chemical weapons will likely make their way into terrorist hands, potentially leading to their use here in America. While it is horrible that Assad would gas his own people (if that is indeed the case, some say it was the rebels who launched that attack), our bombing Syria isn't going to bring those people back, nor will it stop further violence against civilians by either side. I'd prefer we give Assad a choice: Leave Syria and allow a peacekeeping group of Arab nations to stabilize Syria until the government can be re-established and to prevent sectarian violence, or be tried in absentia in the Hague. If he opts for Option #2, Assad will become a prisoner in his own country, if he leaves then we arrest him, and if he stays he risks being killed by his own people.


...actually I like this strategy a lot more. It makes a lot more sense than simply bombing the regime, since the number of unknowns seem to be more than anyone is willing to admit.
 
2013-09-06 09:48:57 AM

Lando Lincoln: World War 3? Over Syria? What? I'm missing something, here.


The WWIII submissions have done a fantastic job in such a short time to be more overused and annoying than the 'X, lol just kidding, Y' and the not ironic ironic tag headlines.
 
2013-09-06 09:50:49 AM
That's funny, I thought the US had withdrawn from Iraq. Was it all another Mission Accomplished farce?
 
2013-09-06 09:51:05 AM
wwIII lets just do it and get it over with!!!
 
2013-09-06 09:51:52 AM

jaytkay: Who gave Iran free rein in Iraq? Maybe the GOP hardliners should take a break from Benghazi hysteria and look into that


Who said they have free rein?
 
2013-09-06 09:52:19 AM
All the World Wars are started by ineffectual Democrats during rough economic times.  So calling number 3, calling number 3.  But hey foreign policy experience does not matter, fix the economy.
 
2013-09-06 09:53:54 AM

ManateeGag: really rooting for WWIII aren't you, subby?


That meme is getting tired REALLY fast.
 
2013-09-06 09:56:49 AM

jso2897: Aristocles: Isn't this story 10 years old?

The story of civilized men who lack the common sense to stay out of quarrels between savages is thousands of years old - and it always ends the same.


Noblesse Oblige, but with missiles
 
2013-09-06 09:57:11 AM

Headso: One idiotic and futile attack deserves another, I guess.

And we're just the guys to do it.
Now get out there and fiiiiight!!!!!
 
2013-09-06 10:03:03 AM

brantgoose: Shouldn't they be doing that already?

Isn't that what insurgents do? Insurge?

Lazy damn Iranian insurgents. Let them out of Iran and they head straight for the discothèques of Baghdad.


They're reservist insurgents, they have to be called to active duty status. Hope their employers keep their jobs for them.
 
2013-09-06 10:03:06 AM

jso2897: Aristocles: Isn't this story 10 years old?

The story of civilized men who lack the common sense to stay out of quarrels between savages is thousands of years old - and it always ends the same.


You mean in ton's of video clips of death and torture?
 
2013-09-06 10:03:08 AM
Thanks Obama! Ya farkwit!
 
2013-09-06 10:07:55 AM
"After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. ... As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger...." Osama Bin Laden, 1998.

Obama boasted a big black dick on Syria and now can't get it up. This demoralizes the Nation and the office in the eyes of the enemy. Wait and see the attacks we're in for now. They're well on their way.
 
2013-09-06 10:17:26 AM

Momjong: "After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. ... As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger...." Osama Bin Laden, 1998.

Obama boasted a big black dick on Syria and now can't get it up. This demoralizes the Nation and the office in the eyes of the enemy. Wait and see the attacks we're in for now. They're well on their way.


That would mattter a lot more if not for one thing:
This...
images.defensetech.org Has no morale at all.  This drone can not hold land or police an area.  But give it a few more years, its descendants might be able to do it.   The only morale and fighting spirit that might matter is the political will.  However that wont matter if American soldiers or civilians are not getting killed in decent numbers.  The USA will pump  a billion dollars into automatic bombs and missiles without batting an eye if there is no human (American side, not "other") toll attached to that.
 
2013-09-06 10:27:25 AM

Momjong: Obama boasted a big black dick on Syria and now can't get it up. This demoralizes the Nation and the office in the eyes of the enemy. Wait and see the attacks we're in for now. They're well on their way.


Go back to reading your WND articles. We'll call you when it's safe to come out.
 
2013-09-06 10:55:36 AM

fireclown: jaytkay: Who gave Iran free rein in Iraq? Maybe the GOP hardliners should take a break from Benghazi hysteria and look into that

Who said they have free rein?


Everyone with knowledge of the past ten years' history.

If you're interested, here you go.
 
2013-09-06 11:17:15 AM
I was well under the impression that the rebels within Syria are basically the same type of terrorists you would find in Iraq or Iran.  This is why we've stayed out of their civil war for so long.  It seems to me that the US attacking Syria's government would be helpful to them.
 
2013-09-06 11:28:27 AM
Whoa, hold on there!

This is PROOF that Iran - IRAN! - wants to do violent things to Iraq, AND hates the United States!

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
 
2013-09-06 11:41:28 AM

Momjong: . This demoralizes the Nation and the office in the eyes of the enemy. Wait and see the attacks we're in for now. They're well on their way.


Oh, I'm afraid the TSA will be fully groperational when your terror threats arrive.
 
2013-09-06 11:51:49 AM
Does Reuters, quoting an article in the Wall Street Journal, itself quoting unnamed US intelligence officials, count as a verifiable, trusted source these days?

Did I miss a memo?

/I always miss the memos.
 
2013-09-06 12:02:50 PM
Look, it's like dealing with a child. You don't threaten unless you're going to follow through. I'm NOT for going there in the first place, I'm just saying that the Ego-in-Chief should have kept his giant mouth shut in the first place.
 
2013-09-06 12:05:50 PM

Momjong: This demoralizes the Nation and the office in the eyes of the enemy. Wait and see the attacks we're in for now. They're well on their way.


That only ever seems to happen to America. Why are we such pussies that we get demoralized by things that cause resolve elsewhere?
 
2013-09-06 12:06:27 PM

Momjong: Look, it's like dealing with a child. You don't threaten unless you're going to follow through. I'm NOT for going there in the first place, I'm just saying that the Ego-in-Chief should have kept his giant mouth shut in the first place.


"Bring it on."
 
2013-09-06 12:06:57 PM

Momjong: Look, it's like dealing with a child. You don't threaten unless you're going to follow through. I'm NOT for going there in the first place, I'm just saying that the Ego-in-Chief should have kept his giant mouth shut in the first place.


Speaking as a liberal, the whole "red line" bullshiat was pretty stupid if you were not 100% sure you would have complete allied support.  Britain backing off was a surprise to me at least but understandable.

Hopefully this will be Libya 2 instead of Iraq 2.  One way or another we are definitely going to attack Syria.  The only good news is thats its not like we can fark up the middle east any worse.
 
2013-09-06 12:17:32 PM

orclover: Momjong: Look, it's like dealing with a child. You don't threaten unless you're going to follow through. I'm NOT for going there in the first place, I'm just saying that the Ego-in-Chief should have kept his giant mouth shut in the first place.

Speaking as a liberal, the whole "red line" bullshiat was pretty stupid if you were not 100% sure you would have complete allied support.  Britain backing off was a surprise to me at least but understandable.

Hopefully this will be Libya 2 instead of Iraq 2.  One way or another we are definitely going to attack Syria.  The only good news is thats its not like we can fark up the middle east any worse.


Air campaigns have not historically shown a propensity to turn into ground wars.
 
2013-09-06 12:23:16 PM

vygramul: orclover: Momjong: Look, it's like dealing with a child. You don't threaten unless you're going to follow through. I'm NOT for going there in the first place, I'm just saying that the Ego-in-Chief should have kept his giant mouth shut in the first place.

Speaking as a liberal, the whole "red line" bullshiat was pretty stupid if you were not 100% sure you would have complete allied support.  Britain backing off was a surprise to me at least but understandable.

Hopefully this will be Libya 2 instead of Iraq 2.  One way or another we are definitely going to attack Syria.  The only good news is thats its not like we can fark up the middle east any worse.

Air campaigns have not historically shown a propensity to turn into ground wars.


Well there are a farkton of Al Queda insurgents in Syria who would gladly hold the ground we take from the syrian government from air strikes.

Everybody wins!
 
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