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2013-09-05 07:47:31 PM  
Time to go with the smoke signals and carrier pigeon.
 
2013-09-05 07:56:00 PM  
There have been known security holes in SSL for years, not to mention the issues that have come up with hacked certificate authorities.

Still, I'd personally like to see the NSA not snoop on US citizens.
 
2013-09-05 08:03:43 PM  

Kit Fister: Time to go with the smoke signals and carrier pigeon.


Until the NRA hires Indians with shotguns.
 
2013-09-05 08:04:46 PM  
NSA. Why the hell is android auto-correcting that to NRA?
 
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2013-09-05 08:08:38 PM  
Was the obvious tag broken, subby?
 
2013-09-05 08:21:42 PM  
Well, not *MINE*.  Not when I use these:

img.fark.net

Manually generated and used one time pads.

/Keep your plaintext and keys off of electronic devices.
//Pencil and paper FTW.
 
2013-09-05 08:23:46 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: NSA. Why the hell is android auto-correcting that to NRA?


Why do you think that is? No one talks about the NBA on the internet without the NHL interfering through autocorrect...
 
2013-09-05 08:26:26 PM  
FUD article.

If "any code can be broken," then the the government wouldn't spend so much time trying to legally force you to incriminate yourself by making you hand over your passwords and encryption keys. They would simply decrypt your files without even bothering to contact you.
 
2013-09-05 08:32:19 PM  

NutWrench: FUD article.

If "any code can be broken," then the the government wouldn't spend so much time trying to legally force you to incriminate yourself by making you hand over your passwords and encryption keys. They would simply decrypt your files without even bothering to contact you.


This is a much more detailed article:

http://www.propublica.org/article/the-nsas-secret-campaign-to-crack- un dermine-internet-encryption

They've taken a multi-pronged approach:

1. Working behind the scenes to keep the public encryption standards just weak enough that they can break them if they want to.
2. Building back-doors into a lot of popular software.
3. Working on things like keyloggers and other ways to pull the data off targeted devices without having to break the encryption.
4. Working tirelessly on new decryption algorithms, and specialized supercomputers to run them effectively.
 
2013-09-05 08:46:53 PM  
I think it's cute how subtard thinks there is someone sitting at a workstation, reading their email.

No I don't. I think subtard is farking stupid, like most of America.

NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL

/gfy
 
2013-09-05 08:47:37 PM  

dittybopper: Well, not *MINE*.  Not when I use these:

[img.fark.net image 320x240]

Manually generated and used one time pads.

/Keep your plaintext and keys off of electronic devices.
//Pencil and paper FTW.


Need to find my D&D dice bag......
 
2013-09-05 08:48:46 PM  
Good thing I never bothered to waste my time with that whole encryption thing when it was all the rage a few weeks back.
 
2013-09-05 08:49:12 PM  
So, I should just bcc them and try and get a tax rebate?
 
2013-09-05 08:49:18 PM  
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2013-09-05 08:49:23 PM  
But my question is WHY would the NSA be reading my communications, encrypted or in the clear?

Do they have time to detail someone to comb through my Facebook posts to my friends about our views on someone's difficulties with her boyfriend? Or another one's cat's antics?

IF I was doing anything wrong or illegal, guess what. None of it would be via computer anyway, and very likely not even by phone. It would be so far off the grid that the NSA wouldn't even know where to look for it--like the Unabomber did.
 
2013-09-05 08:49:52 PM  
Until someone figures out how to quickly factor large prime numbers, modern public key encryption is effectively unbreakable.  It's possible that the NSA has that kind of technology, but if they are withholding it they are holding back an incredibly important advancement in both mathematics and humanity.  Which is probably the kind of thing they'd do

Just read this, was great http://www.amazon.com/The-Code-Book-Break-Crack/dp/0385729138/ref=sr_ 1 _4?ie=UTF8&qid=1378428556&sr=8-4&keywords=the+code+book
 
2013-09-05 08:51:10 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: I think it's cute how subtard thinks there is someone sitting at a workstation, reading their email.

No I don't. I think subtard is farking stupid, like most of America.

NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL

/gfy


No, but a computer program is and is flagging some for further scrutiny.

Kind of like how the East German Stasi would open letters passing through the mail to flag people for reeducation.
 
2013-09-05 08:52:33 PM  
this is why I shave all of my communications into cats' fur
 
2013-09-05 08:52:52 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: NSA. Why the hell is android auto-correcting that to NRA?


It made sense with the NRA in that context.
 
2013-09-05 08:53:53 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-05 08:54:22 PM  
It would be nice if the NSA actually stopped terrorism or human trafficking or some, you know, crime. I guess they're just syphoning up all that info for shiats and grins.
 
2013-09-05 08:54:56 PM  

Creoena: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 432x575]


The NSA won't turn over their backups of your data.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57600777/techies-foia-request-fo r- backup-data-from-nsa-denied/
 
2013-09-05 08:55:13 PM  

dittybopper: Well, not *MINE*.  Not when I use these:

[img.fark.net image 320x240]

Manually generated and used one time pads.

/Keep your plaintext and keys off of electronic devices.
//Pencil and paper flashpaper FTW.


kicked up that security for ya
 
2013-09-05 08:55:16 PM  
www.audiobooksonline.com
 
2013-09-05 08:55:57 PM  

Gyrfalcon: But my question is WHY would the NSA be reading my communications, encrypted or in the clear?

Do they have time to detail someone to comb through my Facebook posts to my friends about our views on someone's difficulties with her boyfriend? Or another one's cat's antics?

IF I was doing anything wrong or illegal, guess what. None of it would be via computer anyway, and very likely not even by phone. It would be so far off the grid that the NSA wouldn't even know where to look for it--like the Unabomber did.


I would be impressed if they had the resources to read all user posts to fark.com alone...
 
2013-09-05 08:56:24 PM  
Ntan.  Ihapgstpt.  AitikhtrtC.
 
2013-09-05 08:56:41 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: NSA. Why the hell is android auto-correcting that to NRA?


Well only one exists, of course.
 
2013-09-05 08:58:20 PM  
The Freemasons know how to keep the NSA from reading stuff.  It's one of our few secrets.
 
2013-09-05 08:58:22 PM  
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2013-09-05 08:58:31 PM  
I can't realky complain - my encryption only ever claimed to be 'pretty good'
 
2013-09-05 08:59:37 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL


Of course not.  They use machines for that.  Any e-mail with enough flags DOES get read by someone.
 
2013-09-05 09:00:18 PM  

Gyrfalcon: But my question is WHY would the NSA be reading my communications, encrypted or in the clear?

Do they have time to detail someone to comb through my Facebook posts to my friends about our views on someone's difficulties with her boyfriend? Or another one's cat's antics?

IF I was doing anything wrong or illegal, guess what. None of it would be via computer anyway, and very likely not even by phone. It would be so far off the grid that the NSA wouldn't even know where to look for it--like the Unabomber did.


I'm glad they use social security numbers instead of punching holes in our ears.
 
2013-09-05 09:00:26 PM  
I think the NSA is doing a terrific job.  Keep up the good work, guys, nothing to see here.

kthxbye
 
2013-09-05 09:00:55 PM  

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2013-09-05 09:01:17 PM  
If they're looking at my encrypted stuff, I hope they enjoy weird porn.
 
2013-09-05 09:01:55 PM  

Gyrfalcon: But my question is WHY would the NSA be reading my communications, encrypted or in the clear?

Do they have time to detail someone to comb through my Facebook posts to my friends about our views on someone's difficulties with her boyfriend? Or another one's cat's antics?

IF I was doing anything wrong or illegal, guess what. None of it would be via computer anyway, and very likely not even by phone. It would be so far off the grid that the NSA wouldn't even know where to look for it--like the Unabomber did.


An eye reduces crime.
 
2013-09-05 09:02:50 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL



i.imgur.com
Whether it's the NSA or your local cheeto-stained sysadmin, someone is reading your email.
 
2013-09-05 09:02:58 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If they're looking at my encrypted stuff, I hope they enjoy weird porn.


You mean there are spooks that don't enjoy weird porn?
 
2013-09-05 09:03:47 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: I think it's cute how subtard thinks there is someone sitting at a workstation, reading their email.

No I don't. I think subtard is farking stupid, like most of America.

NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL

/gfy


Obama 2012.
 
2013-09-05 09:04:40 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Your Average Witty Fark User: I think it's cute how subtard thinks there is someone sitting at a workstation, reading their email.

No I don't. I think subtard is farking stupid, like most of America.

NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL

/gfy

No, but a computer program is and is flagging some for further scrutiny.

Kind of like how the East German Stasi would open letters passing through the mail to flag people for reeducation.


Your Average Witty American isn't having ANY of their correspondence "flagged for further scrutiny".

Everyone is up in arms over NOTHING. Wah. Cry me a river.
 
2013-09-05 09:04:56 PM  

StopLurkListen: At first I *snip*


Jesus farking christ goddamnit this is supposed to be a safe for work site.  Good god man I'll never get that out of my mind.  Holy shiat that was horrific and I've seen some shiat.
 
2013-09-05 09:05:58 PM  
The Feds have a law that does not allow an encryption system that they cannot break or get into.
I heard that about 8 years ago.
 
2013-09-05 09:07:26 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: AverageAmericanGuy: Your Average Witty Fark User: I think it's cute how subtard thinks there is someone sitting at a workstation, reading their email.

No I don't. I think subtard is farking stupid, like most of America.

NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL

/gfy

No, but a computer program is and is flagging some for further scrutiny.

Kind of like how the East German Stasi would open letters passing through the mail to flag people for reeducation.

Your Average Witty American isn't having ANY of their correspondence "flagged for further scrutiny".

Everyone is up in arms over NOTHING. Wah. Cry me a river.


Well, the content would have to be interesting to be flagged, so I can see where you're coming from.
 
2013-09-05 09:07:52 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Your Average Witty Fark User: NO ONE IS READING YOUR FARKING EMAIL


[i.imgur.com image 380x380]
Whether it's the NSA or your local cheeto-stained sysadmin, someone is reading your email.


I'm actually far more worried about my local cheeto-stained sysadmin. The NSA is much less likely to stalk me in a furry suit and a cardboard sword named "Lemonslayer".
 
2013-09-05 09:08:10 PM  

dittybopper: Well, not *MINE*.  Not when I use these:

[check this sh*t out, NSA.jpg]

Manually generated and used one time pads.

/Keep your plaintext and keys off of electronic devices.
//Pencil and paper FTW.


Hi ditty.

Those one time pads make me drool. I think I need more dice.
 
2013-09-05 09:08:46 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: StopLurkListen: At first I *snip*

Jesus farking christ goddamnit this is supposed to be a safe for work site.  Good god man I'll never get that out of my mind.  Holy shiat that was horrific and I've seen some shiat.


Yeah. I didn't even know hemaphrodite manatees existed
 
2013-09-05 09:14:14 PM  
I'm starting to think that the Government is going to have to drop all pretenses and just enslave us all before people will band together and stop all this bullshiat.
 
2013-09-05 09:15:08 PM  
Oh, I need to bring this back:
A series of tubes


♫ Enormous tubes... massive massive tubes...
It's not something you just dump something on... it's not a big truck
...It's a series of tubes! ♫
 
rpm
2013-09-05 09:16:19 PM  

TheOnion: Until someone figures out how to quickly factor large prime numbers, modern public key encryption is effectively unbreakable.


The encryption may be effectively unbreakable. The encryption programs and encryption standard process are not.
 
2013-09-05 09:16:20 PM  

GRCooper: Smeggy Smurf: StopLurkListen: At first I *snip*

Jesus farking christ goddamnit this is supposed to be a safe for work site.  Good god man I'll never get that out of my mind.  Holy shiat that was horrific and I've seen some shiat.

Yeah. I didn't even know hemaphrodite manatees existed


What are you guys talking about? it's just a schooner.
 
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