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2013-09-05 10:26:26 PM

Biological Ali: Do you think that the evidence that Assad's regime carried out the attack is stronger or weaker than the evidence put forward by the Bush administration in support of their claims prior to the invasion of Iraq?


I think they're just about the same.
 
2013-09-05 10:26:57 PM

NOLA_farkette: Kit Fister: No one will care. This won't even get greened.

Fark you man...
You were wrong and I hate Alex jones.


Well don't look at me, I ain't a mod.
 
2013-09-05 10:29:08 PM

spamdog: There's a lot of shooting the messenger here, but the doubts about the Syrian government actually carrying out this attack are reasonable doubts.

I'm willing to bet that about 90% of the people here scoffing at infowars haven't even read the article or watched the video. The news articles linked on the infowars page are from the BBC and Reuters.

If it was a Republican president pushing for this, all the Democrats here would be expressing similar doubts about the credibility of the evidence put forth by the US government. But criticizing the US government here would be giving the Republicans a victory, so nobody whispers a word of protest.

Democrats love a good war for peace.


How divorced from reality can you get?

There isn't much in the way of a partisan push for or against this. Both the left and the right are pretty split, with big names on both sides calling out for and against.

Inforwars is trash and it was picked by the submitter to get a reaction. If you have a problem with people shooting the messenger then take it up with the submitter who intended for it to happen.
 
2013-09-05 10:30:56 PM

big pig peaches: Fark really needs to show the link source in the mobile version.


It does, which is why I knew not to click the link.

Look under the headline, to the right. You may have to increase your text size slightly. No picture, because it's a pain in the ass to do from my phone, but here's the C&P:


Syrian rebels admit using chemical weapons to "kill like Osama bin Laden said"

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2013-09-05 10:34:23 PM
The rebels are savages. Many are openly allied with AQ. Whether they are responsible for chem attacks or not, let's not rush headlong into their "noble" cause.
 
2013-09-05 10:35:44 PM
Is there a way to just not see InfoWars posts? Like some sort of setting I can turn on/off? It's almost as if there was NAMBLA news being posted. It's that level of offensiveness, and everybody knows it, probably even those who think it's real.
 
2013-09-05 10:35:54 PM

Mrtraveler01: According to the video tape, the rebels said: "I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL."


You're our boy!
 
2013-09-05 10:36:41 PM

GhostFish: Inforwars is trash and it was picked by the submitter to get a reaction. If you have a problem with people shooting the messenger then take it up with the submitter who intended for it to happen.


No. As a matter of fact I will call out farkers for being reactionary when the article does indeed have some credible sources in it.

There's quite a bit of reasonable doubt about the US government's claims, but it's all getting swept under the rug by angry reactionaries like you, just the same as doubts about the Iraq war claims were.

I would bet a hundred dollars you didn't even go to the article and read the linked pieces, even after I told you. And here you are angrily telling me off for telling people to think again.

Like I said, reactionary as fark.
 
2013-09-05 10:37:04 PM
Infowars is bad and the subby & trollerator should feel bad.
 
2013-09-05 10:37:45 PM

FnkyTwn: Is there a way to just not see InfoWars posts? Like some sort of setting I can turn on/off? It's almost as if there was NAMBLA news being posted. It's that level of offensiveness, and everybody knows it, probably even those who think it's real.


You can probably get a plug-in that will filter them out but the easiest way not to see Infowars stories is to not click on the links
 
2013-09-05 10:37:45 PM

Kit Fister: No one will care. This won't even get greened.


You're new here, aren't you?

*clicks profile*

OK, apparently you haven't been paying attention.
 
2013-09-05 10:38:53 PM

spamdog: vygramul: Not clicking on a potatowars link.

Another one shooting the messenger, despite there being credible links to the BBC and Reuters in there.


Those links have nothing to do with what that article (and this thread) are about - i.e., the authenticity of this video. Moreover, those links are all about an attack that took place in March in Aleppo - and not the one that took place in August in Damascus, which is what's in the news now. It's not clear who carried out that attack (a small-scale attack that killed about 30 people, mostly soldiers) - there's a Russian report claiming that it was likely done by the rebels based on their, but there's also been news of a Syrian defector who says that it was carried out by Assad.

With the attack in Damascus, however - the one that killed over a thousand people, including more than 400 children - there is nothing to suggest the rebels carried it out. The idea this attack was carried out by anybody other than Assad's regime is farfetched to say the least, and there's a reason that the article's claims about the Damascus attack all link back to infowars.
 
2013-09-05 10:39:16 PM

skullkrusher: The rebels are savages. Many are openly allied with AQ. Whether they are responsible for chem attacks or not, let's not rush headlong into their "noble" cause.


Which rebels?  There are at least three groups fighting each other and Assad.   This is a fuster cluck of incredible dimensions.
 
2013-09-05 10:40:21 PM

2wolves: skullkrusher: The rebels are savages. Many are openly allied with AQ. Whether they are responsible for chem attacks or not, let's not rush headlong into their "noble" cause.

Which rebels?  There are at least three groups fighting each other and Assad.   This is a fuster cluck of incredible dimensions.


does it matter? Attacking the regime is assisting all those who resist the regime.
 
2013-09-05 10:42:21 PM

spamdog: GhostFish: Inforwars is trash and it was picked by the submitter to get a reaction. If you have a problem with people shooting the messenger then take it up with the submitter who intended for it to happen.

No. As a matter of fact I will call out farkers for being reactionary when the article does indeed have some credible sources in it.

There's quite a bit of reasonable doubt about the US government's claims, but it's all getting swept under the rug by angry reactionaries like you, just the same as doubts about the Iraq war claims were.

I would bet a hundred dollars you didn't even go to the article and read the linked pieces, even after I told you. And here you are angrily telling me off for telling people to think again.

Like I said, reactionary as fark.


Is bullshiat your middle name? No one is sweeping anything under any rug.
 
2013-09-05 10:43:48 PM
Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Wednesday that any US Congress approval for a military strike against Syria without UN consensus would represent an "aggression".

From Yahoo News
 
2013-09-05 10:43:51 PM

2wolves: skullkrusher: The rebels are savages. Many are openly allied with AQ. Whether they are responsible for chem attacks or not, let's not rush headlong into their "noble" cause.

Which rebels?  There are at least three groups fighting each other and Assad.   This is a fuster cluck of incredible dimensions.


All the more reason to stay out of it and let the Arab League or someone else deal with it.
 
2013-09-05 10:45:15 PM
dear world,

No seriously, most of us are against war...going to war, participating in it, starting them, anything.  We elect people that claim to be against it.  But...dunno, man.  Dunno.

Sincerely,
The USA
 
2013-09-05 10:48:24 PM

spamdog: Biological Ali: Do you think that the evidence that Assad's regime carried out the attack is stronger or weaker than the evidence put forward by the Bush administration in support of their claims prior to the invasion of Iraq?

I think they're just about the same.


They're not even remotely the same, but for the purpose of argument let's assume they are. Given that the Democrats didn't express any serious doubts about the stated rationale for attacking Iraq at the time that it was given, it would appear that Democrats indeed aren't being less skeptical now than they were then.
 
2013-09-05 10:49:04 PM

Nabb1: 2wolves: skullkrusher: The rebels are savages. Many are openly allied with AQ. Whether they are responsible for chem attacks or not, let's not rush headlong into their "noble" cause.

Which rebels?  There are at least three groups fighting each other and Assad.   This is a fuster cluck of incredible dimensions.

All the more reason to stay out of it and let the Arab League or someone else deal with it.


we can certainly enforce a no-fly zone to protect civilians and that sort of thing without actively attacking the Assad regime... and then hope Assad wins
 
2013-09-05 10:49:39 PM

FlashHarry: well, rush limbaugh sided with somali pirates over their american hostages in the maersk alabama hijacking, simply because he hates obama's guts - it shouldn't surprise me that alex jones and the rabid right would side with the butcher of damascus in this case.


Surely you've heard of sarcasm.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2009/04/14/president_obama_ordered _t he_killing_of_three_black_muslim_kids
 
2013-09-05 10:50:59 PM

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Wednesday that any US Congress approval for a military strike against Syria without UN consensus would represent an "aggression".

From Yahoo News


Yawn.
 
2013-09-05 10:51:44 PM

wahsman: I vote for whatever makes my gas cheaper,dammit.  God bless 'Murica!


This war will only help Europe with lower natural gas prices, Saudi Arabia and Qatar get sales of LNG. Russia has about 25% of the sales ( 150 BCM out of  485 billion cubic metres (bcm). Other supplies come from norway by land and Saudi Arabia and Qatar by sea with other smaller suppliers. Syria as Russia's ally has blocked building a pipeline from Qatar- Saudi Arabia.

That's why Kerry can say this  ...

"With respect to Arab countries offering to bear the cost and to assist, the answer is profoundly yes, they have. That offer is on the table," Kerry said as he appeared before a House of Representatives panel.
The offer was "quite significant," he said.


That's why /Obama/Kerry have the financial backing of Arab contries. America will be the guy the nerd hires to go beat up the big, bad' bully who is blocking the door to the bank everyday.

Imported petroleum from the Middle East will go up a lot when the USA shoots the first cruise missle.

I included non-Infowars  references  for these ideas. I could find many more.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/arab-nations-offered-to-p_n_ 3 868087.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/arab-nations-of fered-to-p_n_3 868087.html

http://michaelsnyder.mensnewsdaily.com/2013/09/is-the-united-states-g o ing-to-go-to-war-with-syria-over-a-natural-gas-pipeline/">http://mich aelsnyder.mensnewsdaily.com/2013/09/is-the-united-states-go ing-to-go-to-war-with-syria-over-a-natural-gas-pipeline/

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/18/uk-energy-gas-europe-analysi s -idUKBRE96H0SE20130718">http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/18/uk-e nergy-gas-europe-analysis -idUKBRE96H0SE20130718


I know it gets hard to think the people you elect can be evil, killing people for profit. But it's time to own up and take a real look at things.
 
2013-09-05 10:52:12 PM
 
2013-09-05 10:54:24 PM

uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated


well, at least he's gone beyond being low class and vulgar to get the attention he craves
 
2013-09-05 10:55:11 PM

darth_badger: I know it gets hard to think the people you elect can be evil, killing people for profit POWER. But it's time to own up and take a real look at things.


FTFY.  Money is just one form of power
 
2013-09-05 10:56:11 PM

uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated


The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.
 
2013-09-05 10:56:38 PM

Kuroshin: Mrtraveler01: 2wolves: Kuroshin: spamdog: Snark aside, does anyone actually have any disproof of the claims in the video and article?

I mean I know it's infowars, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Not at the poles.

Not if it's a digital clock.

Then it's only once a day as it blinks "12:00"

If it doesn't have an AM/PM designation (and isn't 24-hour), then it's still twice per day.

Again, except at the poles.


Why not at the poles?
 
2013-09-05 10:56:41 PM

Nabb1: Gwendolyn: Anyone else think Obama pulled this Syria debate to get people to shut the fark up about the Affordable Care act causing the downfall society?

Do I think he would bomb people and kill hundreds or even thousands to stop people from complaining about Obamacare? Only if he's a total farking psychopath.


No. The bringing it up when we should have done something two months ago and then allowing everything to dick around for a few weeks. I said the DEBATE not the attack.
 
2013-09-05 10:57:26 PM

Nabb1: We shouldn't be taking sides at all.


You're right; this is "glass parking lot" time.
 
2013-09-05 10:57:28 PM

skullkrusher: well, at least he's gone beyond being low class and vulgar to get the attention he craves


How's that? He's talking about doctored docs.

The photos?  I'm sure they're being projected all around capital hill right now.
 
2013-09-05 10:58:10 PM

vygramul: uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.


another question is why an administration which clearly does not want to bomb Syria would try to make up a reason to bomb Syria
 
2013-09-05 10:58:33 PM

vygramul: uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.


Where did you understand that from? I NEED, I NEED
 
2013-09-05 10:59:25 PM

Bell-fan: Klippoklondike: Farking Alex Jones, man.  You're more likely to get credible information from one of those plastic kids toy phones that make animal noises when you dial them

you mean like when he was spouting that bull**** about the NSA having this huge spying program called prism that was sucking up data on everything from everyone... yeah what a load of... oh wait... FFFFFF I hate it when these crazy assholes turn out to be right...

Maybe we SHOULD wait for the UN to come back with definitive findings BEFORE we start launching shiat into other countries.

What if we find out that this is some cottage industry sarin like the Russians said it is... and that the missiles came from Saudi Arabia through AL Q connections.

Imagine how farking stupid we'd look if we did something and killed people... and it turned out we were wrong AGAIN.. JUST LIKE IN IRAQ.

Seriously... I hate to admit it... but in this one isolated instance I'd much rather NOT act before we know for a fact that Alex jone's tin foil hat squad aren't right.


And all that BS Alex was spouting abut The Bilderberggroup over 10 years ago. Oh wait that is a real thing because they just met in Watford this year didn't they?
 
2013-09-05 11:00:09 PM

skullkrusher: vygramul: uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.

another question is why an administration which clearly does not want to bomb Syria would try to make up a reason to bomb Syria


Admin is trying to bomb Syria.  Pelosi is going around telling people we're at war. But it looks as if the  President is not getting congressional approval to do so.
 
2013-09-05 11:00:38 PM

Gwendolyn: Nabb1: Gwendolyn: Anyone else think Obama pulled this Syria debate to get people to shut the fark up about the Affordable Care act causing the downfall society?

Do I think he would bomb people and kill hundreds or even thousands to stop people from complaining about Obamacare? Only if he's a total farking psychopath.

No. The bringing it up when we should have done something two months ago and then allowing everything to dick around for a few weeks. I said the DEBATE not the attack.


Still not buying it. Guy talked himself into a corner and now is lobbing it over to Congress. And now Putin is calling his bluff. "Red line." Every two-bit lawyer alive knows you always leave an out in everything you say. Nice work, Harvard Law.
 
2013-09-05 11:02:04 PM

ransack.: Kuroshin: Mrtraveler01: 2wolves: Kuroshin: spamdog: Snark aside, does anyone actually have any disproof of the claims in the video and article?

I mean I know it's infowars, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Not at the poles.

Not if it's a digital clock.

Then it's only once a day as it blinks "12:00"

If it doesn't have an AM/PM designation (and isn't 24-hour), then it's still twice per day.

Again, except at the poles.

Why not at the poles?


Well, you now have to show two forms of ID.
 
2013-09-05 11:03:35 PM

Biological Ali: It's not clear who carried out that attack (a small-scale attack that killed about 30 people, mostly soldiers) - there's a Russian report claiming that it was likely done by the rebels based on their


You don't think the fact that Sarin was used against Syrian army soldiers recently might constitute a valid reason to be doubtful that the Syrian government executed this most recent attack?

I do. I think it is considerable evidence to just stop and wait for the UN's investigation on the most recent chemical attack to come back.

Just like Iraq, everyone's in too much of a rush to stop and wait for the UN to deliver their report.

I know that all the mass media is begging the question of whether the Syrian government did it, but that doesn't make claims to the contrary crazy or farfetched. They said the same thing about doubts on Iraq, too.
 
2013-09-05 11:03:55 PM

uber humper: skullkrusher: vygramul: uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.

another question is why an administration which clearly does not want to bomb Syria would try to make up a reason to bomb Syria

Admin is trying to bomb Syria.  Pelosi is going around telling people we're at war. But it looks as if the  President is not getting congressional approval to do so.


The President does not want to bomb Syria. If the President wanted to bomb Syria, we would be bombing Syria right now. He says he wants to bomb Syria. He actually does not, though. The President is actually banking on NOT getting approval so he can say that he really, really wanted to bomb Syria but he has to listen to the elected representatives of the people
 
2013-09-05 11:05:32 PM

skullkrusher: The President does not want to bomb Syria. If the President wanted to bomb Syria, we would be bombing Syria right now. He says he wants to bomb Syria. He actually does not, though. The President is actually banking on NOT getting approval so he can say that he really, really wanted to bomb Syria but he has to listen to the elected representatives of the people


The shiat is getting deep in here.

 
2013-09-05 11:05:57 PM

uber humper: vygramul: uber humper: Democrat Congressman saying Obama & Co  manipulated the intel

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan -g rayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

The question is why Germany manipulated the intel.

Where did you understand that from? I NEED, I NEED


I was kidding. Germany said its intel agents have determined Assad launched the attack. (Germany is nonetheless against attacking.)
 
2013-09-05 11:06:30 PM

TuteTibiImperes: let's not pretend there's some government conspiracy to subvert the public opinion. Your tinfoil hat might be on too snug.


It may not be a 'conspiracy' as such, but the US government is doing its damnedest to make Obama look good at the moment, in spite of reason and transparency. And that's a bad thing, just in general.
 
2013-09-05 11:06:43 PM
So he really want to put troops in Syria? If he wants to remove their chemical capability:

Article from December reporting that the Pentagon told the Obama Administration that 75,000 troops would be needed to secure Syria's chemical arms.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/world/middleeast/pentagon-sees-sei zi ng-syria-chemical-arms-as-vast-task.html?pagewanted=all"
 
2013-09-05 11:06:46 PM

Nabb1: Still not buying it. Guy talked himself into a corner and now is lobbing it over to Congress. And now Putin is calling his bluff. "Red line." Every two-bit lawyer alive knows you always leave an out in everything you say. Nice work, Harvard Law.


Putin's calling his bluff? I'm pretty sure that Russia's position (unless there's been some major development in the last few hours that I missed) has been that it's not yet clear whether the "red line" has been crossed by the Assad regime.
 
2013-09-05 11:08:00 PM

skullkrusher: The President does not want to bomb Syria. If the President wanted to bomb Syria, we would be bombing Syria right now. He says he wants to bomb Syria. He actually does not, though. The President is actually banking on NOT getting approval so he can say that he really, really wanted to bomb Syria but he has to listen to the elected representatives of the people


So you can look into his mind, eh?
 
2013-09-05 11:08:07 PM

uber humper: skullkrusher: The President does not want to bomb Syria. If the President wanted to bomb Syria, we would be bombing Syria right now. He says he wants to bomb Syria. He actually does not, though. The President is actually banking on NOT getting approval so he can say that he really, really wanted to bomb Syria but he has to listen to the elected representatives of the people

The shiat is getting deep in here.


I could push you in the shallow water if you'd like but the President has the authority to order strikes on Syria. He knows he does. We assisted the Libyan resistance for months without congressional approval. Fact is he doesn't want to actually help the rebels. The last thing the Middle East and the world needs is the Syrian WMD stockpiles being spoils of war for a bunch of yahoos, 3/4 of which are probably jihadi jackoffs or at least sympathizers.
 
2013-09-05 11:08:42 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: skullkrusher: The President does not want to bomb Syria. If the President wanted to bomb Syria, we would be bombing Syria right now. He says he wants to bomb Syria. He actually does not, though. The President is actually banking on NOT getting approval so he can say that he really, really wanted to bomb Syria but he has to listen to the elected representatives of the people

So you can look into his mind, eh?


no, but it isn't very hard to deduce things if you try.
 
2013-09-05 11:08:43 PM

Mrtraveler01: Gyrfalcon: Mrtraveler01: 2wolves: Kuroshin: spamdog: Snark aside, does anyone actually have any disproof of the claims in the video and article?

I mean I know it's infowars, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Not at the poles.

Not if it's a digital clock.

Then it's only once a day as it blinks "12:00"

It's twelve o'clock twice a day, at least where I live...

Mine usually has the AM light blink with the "12:00".

/Loves how we're arguing more about clocks than Syria


Mine has a light for PM and no light means AM. Also, the time counts when it's blinking and needs set, so if I come home and it's blinking 3:23 then I know the power went out and came back 3 hours and 23 minutes ago
 
2013-09-05 11:13:20 PM

spamdog: You don't think the fact that Sarin was used against Syrian army soldiers recently might constitute a valid reason to be doubtful that the Syrian government executed this most recent attack?


Er... what? What does the Aleppo attack (the details of which have yet to be determined) have to do with the Damascus attack? They're two separate incidents. Even if you assume that the rebels carried out that attack (and like I said, it has yet to be determined), it has no bearing on the investigation for the other one.
 
2013-09-05 11:13:28 PM

skullkrusher: I could push you in the shallow water if you'd like but the President has the authority to order strikes on Syria. He knows he does. We assisted the Libyan resistance for months without congressional approval. Fact is he doesn't want to actually help the rebels. The last thing the Middle East and the world needs is the Syrian WMD stockpiles being spoils of war for a bunch of yahoos, 3/4 of which are probably jihadi jackoffs or at least sympathizers.


You don't think the US has been equiping and training them all along? I hope you're right and the Presidents push in congress fails.  We do not need to equip Al Qaeda

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/21/world/la-fg-cia-syria-201306 22
 
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