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2013-09-06 12:49:31 PM  
There is probably some difference between the kid that doesn't want to eat lunch and the kid that is hungry and trying to get a sammich.  Sure, the kid that doesn't want to is making that choice.  If the kid is hungry and the school isn't getting their $2, then that kid loses his choice.

/sucks to be poor and hungry
 
2013-09-06 01:10:51 PM  

bluefoxicy: Belias: In our local school system, if you fall behind on your child's wallet payments, they start giving your kid a cheese sandwich instead of a full lunch, for the younger kids. At higher grades, they get nothing. I agree that this is better, but it's still punishing only the child, and in the end, the parent is even less likely to pay their freaking bill.

Michelle Obama has her name on an initiative for "Healthy School Meals" that gives small children less food, and gives high schoolers more.

It baffles me.  Somebody should send her some watermelon seeds.  You find you need to water growing plants a hell of a lot (fertilizer for vegetables yes... nutrient-rich soil for trees, but not heavily fertilized because fast overfertilized growth weakens the trees and they're supposed to be permanent), and less when they've stopped growing so rapidly.  Lots of water as the seedlings grow and vines stretch out; not so much when they're flowering; TONS of water when they start fruiting.

Who the hell goes, "Hey, I know, let's feed 6 year olds 400 calories and 16 year olds 800 calories!  16 year olds are bigger and need more, right?"

Missing a meal once in a while:  end of the world.  Slow, long-term malnutrition:  championed public policy.


I don'y know if you are aware of this, but children aren't plants. Teens typically need between 25% to 33% more calories per day than a 6 to 10 year old child.
 
2013-09-06 01:17:59 PM  
My son's school district is very poor. Something like 75% of the kids qualify for free lunch, so the school district took the community option and now all kids in the elementary school get free breakfast and lunch for 4 years. I've seen some of these kids. The meals from the school are probably the only decent food some of these kids get. Why punish the kids because their parents are idiots?
 
2013-09-06 01:18:14 PM  
Liberals: Learning prevention
Conservatives: Learn through experiences
 
2013-09-06 01:42:37 PM  
Again, since when is NOT giving somebody something for free "punishing" them?
 
2013-09-06 02:12:23 PM  

spidermilk: Wow, does he not realize that some of those kids are sent to school hungry and without food because the parents just don't care.


If the parents don't care, how about getting CPS involved?

I know, it will be more expensive than a school lunch, but if the parents don't care to the point that they're not feeding their children that's one of the things that CPS should be dealing with even if it means more funding for CPS.

If the parents won't rectify the situation and the kids cannot be placed with grandparents or other relatives who do, put them in foster care or up for adoption to parents who do care.
 
2013-09-06 02:16:48 PM  
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2013-09-06 02:31:19 PM  

gfid: spidermilk: Wow, does he not realize that some of those kids are sent to school hungry and without food because the parents just don't care.

If the parents don't care, how about getting CPS involved?

I know, it will be more expensive than a school lunch, but if the parents don't care to the point that they're not feeding their children that's one of the things that CPS should be dealing with even if it means more funding for CPS.

If the parents won't rectify the situation and the kids cannot be placed with grandparents or other relatives who do, put them in foster care or up for adoption to parents who do care.


There ya go. I have two friends who work for CPS, and this SO MUCH needs to be done. They just can't get to every kid who needs the attention, and when methhead mama and daddy (and mama's boyfriend, and daddy's girlfriend) are spitting out LOTS of kids, that's a lot to put into the foster system or with relatives. I know a girl (relative of a friend) who just had three kids taken away from her. I know of another couple who is one failed drug screen away (give it a week or two) of having two kids taken away. My office does drug screens for parents under investigation by CPS, and we see probably 10 different people a week, just for drug use. Nevermind those who are just assholes to their kids and don't use drugs..... and this is a VERY small town. I can't imagine the caseload of some of the bigger cities.
 
2013-09-06 02:57:37 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: doyner: Isn't school where kids are supposed to experience teaching moments?

Yes, though most school related Fark news items deal with school "touching moments"


I think you win the thread with that one. Bravo.
 
2013-09-06 03:08:48 PM  

hasty ambush: To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem -- Dr LaMont Cole, Professor of Ecology, Cornell University


And do you agree with the asshole that you have quoted?
 
2013-09-06 03:20:25 PM  
I feel like this should only apply to poor people. We need to use a roundabout way to teach as many lessons as possible to poor people.
 
2013-09-06 04:05:20 PM  

gfid: spidermilk: Wow, does he not realize that some of those kids are sent to school hungry and without food because the parents just don't care.

If the parents don't care, how about getting CPS involved?

I know, it will be more expensive than a school lunch, but if the parents don't care to the point that they're not feeding their children that's one of the things that CPS should be dealing with even if it means more funding for CPS.

If the parents won't rectify the situation and the kids cannot be placed with grandparents or other relatives who do, put them in foster care or up for adoption to parents who do care.


If the child is not dangerously underweight, CPS won't do shiat. No hate on them - they don't have the resources to deal with parents who can't be bothered to make Junior a sack lunch or pay the lunch bill.
 
2013-09-06 04:38:59 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Again, since when is NOT giving somebody something for free "punishing" them?


When they get turned away from the emergency room for not being able to pay medical bills.
 
2013-09-06 05:01:49 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: SkinnyHead: Parents are responsible for feeding their children.  If the parents won't feed their children -- if they wont even fill out the forms necessary to get them charity lunch programs -- they should be in jail.

And then the taxpayers can completely take care of the kids


We get closer and closer everyday

/a very well thought out plan, that
 
2013-09-06 05:43:55 PM  

Pharmdawg: ajgeek: I've forced my kids to skip a meal. Actually I wouldn't feed them anything else when they refused to eat what was put in front of them, then fed them the same meal for breakfast the next morning. One of them made it 24 hours before deciding that it was time to eat what was given to him.

/That one is a handful on every front. Literally tore down the ceiling in his bedroom.

I have one of those, but if the littlest thing about his food was off, he wouldnt cry and complain, he would just go on and play as if he didnt feel hunger. We let him go all day a couple of times, but in the end felt we were being worse parents than necessary, and he still wasn't acting hungry. And what were we going to say to the hospital if he ended up dehydrated or impacted with almost nothing in his GI tract? I don't look good in orange.


Oh my kid is unbelievable. He snuck out one morning after I went black ops in the kitchen to make some peanut butter cookies. The jar was damn near empty when I heard him. I figure nearly 20 cookies for breakfast that morning. He didn't get sick.

I started hiding food above the cabinets. He figured out how to pull stuff down from there too. I'm getting to the point that I need to set up a complicated locking system to keep him out of any food he "likes"

/I never have issues with the vegetable drawer...
 
2013-09-06 07:40:56 PM  

Somacandra: DanZero: It's ok, they know what they're doing. Pepper spray is food grade too.

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Hungry kid at school? Feed 'em pepper spray. Problem solved.


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2013-09-06 09:37:54 PM  

Girl Sailor: My son has ended up getting the cheese sandwich more than once. No fancy debit card system in our school. They simply just let him run out of money and wait to tell us until he's well into cheese sandwich territory, then send a hacked-off note about how we need to pay up. We're not poor, we'll happily pay up, but we have no way of knowing what his lunch balance is.

Y'all know Fox is troll bait and you're all biting right?


You've never sat down figured out the number of meals you plan for your child to have at school & multiplied that by the amount the meals cost?
 
2013-09-07 08:44:26 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Again, since when is NOT giving somebody something for free "punishing" them?


How is it free?

My school let students run into the negatives on their lunch balance as long as it was paid into regularly and zeroed out at the end of the year.
 
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