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2013-09-06 09:08:00 AM  
Wow, does he not realize that some of those kids are sent to school hungry and without food because the parents just don't care. He is basically just as non-caring as their drug-addicted deadbeat parents. SO I guess he has that going for him.

Parents don't waste money on designer shoes and bags and then not have enough left over to send junior lunch/lunchmoney once a week. They are either below the poverty line and it is extremely difficult to find enough cash to pay their bills or they are below the poverty line and spend every spare dime they have on meth and even if they did have money to buy food they'd forget/not care and junior would go hungry.

Lack of compassion is the problem, not the answer.
 
2013-09-06 09:09:02 AM  

thiefofdreams: Only in the USA can we have a serious discussion about the idea of feeding kids.

We are truly a nation of psychopaths and narcissists.

We see commercials for people in Africa needing food, so we send money.
We see USA kids starving and want to punish their parents.

Idon'twanttoliveonthisplanet.jpg


It is because some people seriously believe that if kids go hungry that will help them build character and resiliency and they will become self reliant at an early age. What it really does is creates a person who feels alienated at an early age and learns at an early age to do what ever they have to do to get what they need to survive no matter who or what they have to hurt. And I know some of you will say "Well that is good, they need that for the business world" but the reality is that these will be the kids selling drugs, the kids make people so scared they point to them and the reasons they need CCW permits, the kids that are selling themselves on the streets, the ones that if they don't become criminals are still just very unscrupulous people.Some of them however do make and become decent successful people, but most don't.
 
2013-09-06 09:15:32 AM  

The Muthaship: Onkel Buck: Did I touch a nerve?

Not really.  I kind of thought I was bolstering your point.  Being that our "leaders" seem to be idiots.

I'll do better next time....


My bad. Its just so hard to detect non-snark around here anymore. You should have just said  "THIS."

/Have a good weekend!
 
2013-09-06 09:16:19 AM  

Hobodeluxe: keylock71: Hobodeluxe: wildlifer: Weaver95: I_Am_Weasel: There is something desperately wrong with a school system that has not taught a 6 year old how to take responsibility for him/herself.

yeah!  6 year olds should be proficient in at least 4 weapons forms, one form of unarmed combat, and know two different languages.  not to mention be able to track down food, kill it, and eat it with noting more than a number 2 pencil, a couple paper clips and a single rubber band.  THAT'S the REPUBLICAN way!

When my kids where six...
Weapons yes, they knew how to use a knife , and we just started shooting the 22 magnum.
Unarmed combat: kick to the nuts or knee ,
Languages: English, hillbilly and Russian
And... He pulled the trigger on his first deer, I held the rifle. He watched me gut the animal and made snide comments about the deer not having the guts to do that again...

/suck it yuppies

lol right.

Fark is just chocker-blocked with rugged, boot-strappin' individuals and self-made, successful small businesspeople... We lucky they can take the time out of their very busy days to drop some knowledge on us.

I think he was trying to impress. but he's not trying hard enough


Naw, he's just proud.  And what's wrong with a little pride?  It's a useful skill knowing how to hunt, how to kill, how to fight back.

Problem is he doesn't realize how much PRIVILEGE it takes to play those games.  There are no free hunting ranges in the city, no cheap buses from the projects to the wilderness.

If there were, the hills would be stripped bare in a month because one of the MANY things rugged Fark Independents™ remain blind to is the sheer population density today.  There are too many damned people in this country, (an incredibly lightly-populated country compared to most of the world BTW) for everyone to ruggedly live off the land, burn 6-10 bucks worth of gas in a road-clogging car to get from the city to the country, dig up a pit's worth of topsoil, and collect enough brush and scraps to build a cozy little campfire.

I suppose it doesn't help my disposition that I've been watching season 1 of The Wire lately, so goddamn depressing because it's so goddamn true.
 
2013-09-06 09:17:17 AM  

Onkel Buck: Have a good weekend!


Cheers
 
2013-09-06 09:31:49 AM  

hubiestubert: Hmmm...how very Christian...

Isaiah 50:10: If you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then shall your light rise in the darkness and your gloom be as the noonday.Proverbs 28:27: Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.James 2:14-18: What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and filled," without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my worksLuke 3:11: And he answered them, "Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.Proverbs 14:31 :Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.John 3:17-18: But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.Romans 12:20: To the contrary, "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head."Matthew 25:37-40: Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?' And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'

Proverbs 22:9: Whoever has a bountiful eye will be blessed, for he shares his bread with the poor.

Galatians 6:2: Bear one ...


Don't bring that fancy schmancy book learnin in here. We're Christians and we're the only ones that understand what Jesus really meant.
 
2013-09-06 09:34:48 AM  
Regardless how the message was delivered by the Fox correspondent/commentator/window washer the lovely Amanda Marcotte is is a real piece of work. This is the very same Amanda that, when a high school student asked Kate Upton to the prom, wrote:

"The lesson learned: You may be a rich and famous model, but any random man can, just by making a video, force you to do a little song and dance about how delightful his attentions are.
Instead of applauding Davidson for this, adults should be appalled. All that's been taught here to young men is that they are entitled to women's attention simply because they ask for it. . . . This entitlement we teach men crops up all the time for women, and it's rarely as cute as a silly comedy video"


Huh? Not sure who she's attempting to insult more here.


She wrote this other gem after students on trial in the Duke Lacrosse case were acquitted:

"I've been sort of casually listening to CNN blaring throughout the waiting area and good f***ing god is that channel pure evil. For awhile, I had to listen to how the poor dear lacrosse players at Duke are being persecuted just because they held someone down and farked her against her will-not rape, of course, because the charges have been thrown out. Can't a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? So unfair."

Wow. She even has a male partner but for the life of me I can't understand why she isn't a lesbian. She already has the militant feminist part down pat. Of course, if the message is correct so be it but there's so much fodder here her past cannot be ignored.
 
2013-09-06 09:35:52 AM  

edmo: Weren't they dumping on a school last week for serving Michelle Obama food the kids didn't want to eat and were therefore going hungry?


And everybody else was telling the kids to man up and deal with being hungry.
 
2013-09-06 09:40:06 AM  

Abacus9: zamboni: CheetahOlivetti: zamboni: Well I guess if by Fox News correspondent you mean a Fox News commentator... and if by Fox News commentator you mean somebody who appeared on Fox News and is no way affiliated with nor employed by Fox News then, yeah, I guess he's a Fox News commentator.

Other than the fact that Fox News invited him to comment, he's in no way a Fox News commentator.

Sorry, I meant to say correspondent as the last part of my response he definitely is not a correspondent. I apologize profusely for my mistake.

They also invited a lady on there which gave the other viewpoint of the whole thing. I guess that part got left out because it didn't fit the narrative.

What narrative? That Fox allows such extreme opinions on air that shouldn't even be considered? If you purposely starve children you should be shot.


Do you honestly not see the irony of calling the opinions Fox allows on "extreme" while you call a child skipping a meal "starving" children, and call for people to be shot?
 
2013-09-06 09:41:39 AM  

MisterTweak: a child is a human being with basic rights, whether or not their parent is able or willing to provide for them.


Maybe they should be given to somebody who is willing or able?

/half serious
 
2013-09-06 09:44:43 AM  

ongbok: It is because some people seriously believe that if kids go hungry that will help them build character and resiliency and they will become self reliant at an early age

.

Not really. As connected to the media as we are, we are fully aware that this nation bears ample promise to those willing to work for it. We see people risk death walking across the Sonora Desert, for the chance to come here and pick strawberries, live 25 people to an apartment, and work their way up. I have personally known these people. They are ambitious. The majority of them are respectful and respectable. If they are your neighbors, you will generally have very little problem with them. If they are your tenants, the only difference you will note between them and their neighbors is the fact that they use inordinate amounts of water, taking showers and doing laundry. Their children are fed. They rely on the system as little as possible.

Contrast this with the typical "entitled" poor American citizen. They are prone to crime, milking the system for all it's worth, and can't seem to find a job, despite the fact that the majority of the illegals find one right away, after getting here. The fact that the system is "broken" is evidenced by the simple fact that is the same people requiring help, week after week, month after month, year after year.
 
2013-09-06 09:45:45 AM  
Zombie DJ:
$3.00 CONVENIENCE FEE

The term convenience fee invariably means "it's awfully... convenient that you have no choice but to pay this".
 
2013-09-06 09:51:31 AM  
HAMMERTOE:
Contrast this with the typical "entitled" poor American citizen. They are prone to crime, milking the system for all it's worth, and can't seem to find a job, despite the fact that the majority of the illegals find one right away, after getting here.

I agree that undocumented immigrants ARE generally hard-working and don't complain.  This makes them targets for abusive labour practices and unsafe conditions, though, which is probably why it's easier for them to get work.
 
2013-09-06 10:03:05 AM  
OK, I'll bite.  What exactly should the school system do in this case?  You have a parent with enough income to not qualify for free lunches, who repeatedly sends their child to school with no lunch and who repeatedly refuses to pay piled up charges for lunches their child has purchased.  Shall we continue to give out free lunches in this case?  Forever?

Where's the outrage at the parent?
 
2013-09-06 10:04:15 AM  

CheetahOlivetti: zamboni: Well I guess if by Fox News correspondent you mean a Fox News commentator... and if by Fox News commentator you mean somebody who appeared on Fox News and is no way affiliated with nor employed by Fox News then, yeah, I guess he's a Fox News commentator.

Other than the fact that Fox News invited him to comment, he's in no way a Fox News commentator.


Well the man WAS on Fox News and he WAS commenting, so you can see how the FOX News audience would be totally confused.

I think they wake up that way.
 
2013-09-06 10:04:34 AM  

Belias: OK, I'll bite.  What exactly should the school system do in this case?  You have a parent with enough income to not qualify for free lunches, who repeatedly sends their child to school with no lunch and who repeatedly refuses to pay piled up charges for lunches their child has purchased.  Shall we continue to give out free lunches in this case?  Forever?

Where's the outrage at the parent?


The outrage is there, but there aren't a lot of good ways to follow up or punish them. And it's hard to make the child suffer for the sins of the parent.
 
2013-09-06 10:04:35 AM  

Belias: Where's the outrage at the parent?


Welcome to Fark?
 
2013-09-06 10:09:22 AM  
LasersHurt:
The outrage is there, but there aren't a lot of good ways to follow up or punish them. And it's hard to make the child suffer for the sins of the parent.

Again, what should the school do? Continue to give out these free meals to children of parents who can afford them?

In our local school system, if you fall behind on your child's wallet payments, they start giving your kid a cheese sandwich instead of a full lunch, for the younger kids.  At higher grades, they get nothing.  I agree that this is better, but it's still punishing only the child, and in the end, the parent is even less likely to pay their freaking bill.
 
2013-09-06 10:11:23 AM  

QueenMamaBee: If you think there's anything good coming out of denying a kid a meal, you need a "teaching moment" up side of your head. If they're on the free lunch program, that free lunch is probably the only decent meal they get all day. A hungry kid is not concentrating on learning.


Once I locked myself out of my apartment with no shoes.  Wound up walking 9 miles at 3am, passing by a shooting, nearly stepped on a rat...

At the end of it, the only thing I could think about was how people reacted.  People in houses, with big trucks, out at 3am on their porch, poor people but people who are decently well off... they stared judgmentally.  Poor, broke people with nothing?  They offered me their own shoes!  This was a temporary problem, and taking a poor man's shoes would severely impact that man while only barely affecting my momentary comfort!  I could not fathom why those with nothing were the first to offer aid.

As a sum of all my experiences--forgetting my wallet and going to work, winding up working hungry all day because I missed lunch and had to bicycle home (try it), not eating at school, walking three leagues on cement with no shoes--I feel I have learned quite a lot in my life.  Yes some shiatty things happened, yes people need care and attention; but they don't need so much coddling as you think.  Children throw tantrums about the smallest thing, and they're very emotionally vulnerable; a day without food will seem like a horrible, awful thing to a child, but once it's happened three or four times it'll be "well this sucks" and kind of distracting.  Routine starvation isn't a great ideal, but the occasional missed meal will be adapted for readily, and they'll probably be better off for it.

People want to scream around here like a kid misses lunch one time, one day, and suddenly it's like we let them go weeks without food and we beat them.  Get some perspective.

/Bragging rights:  I didn't get blisters from the long walk.  I don't have particularly conditioned feet; my body just held up to the abuse.
//Fully expecting the "well you're some kind of awesome god but this shiat is bad for normal people" argument that folks like to throw at me.  Everyone wants to tell me I'm too awesome to count; how is that a valid argument?
 
2013-09-06 10:12:02 AM  

The Muthaship: Belias: Where's the outrage at the parent?

Welcome to Fark?


Misuse of meme, -2 points.  That is historically reserved for the butt-hurt.  You're new here, so you get off with a warning.
 
2013-09-06 10:13:21 AM  

Belias: LasersHurt:
The outrage is there, but there aren't a lot of good ways to follow up or punish them. And it's hard to make the child suffer for the sins of the parent.

Again, what should the school do? Continue to give out these free meals to children of parents who can afford them?

In our local school system, if you fall behind on your child's wallet payments, they start giving your kid a cheese sandwich instead of a full lunch, for the younger kids.  At higher grades, they get nothing.  I agree that this is better, but it's still punishing only the child, and in the end, the parent is even less likely to pay their freaking bill.


The school should keep feeding the child. The legal system should figure out some way of working this out; wage garnishment perhaps.
 
2013-09-06 10:15:55 AM  

Belias: You're new here, so you get off with a warning.


Phwew!  Thanks!

I've seen it used to express that a poster has failed to note an ongoing Fark theme.  Like the one where the government is supposed to provide everything for everyone.

I won't misuse it again!
 
2013-09-06 10:17:47 AM  

Belias: In our local school system, if you fall behind on your child's wallet payments, they start giving your kid a cheese sandwich instead of a full lunch, for the younger kids. At higher grades, they get nothing. I agree that this is better, but it's still punishing only the child, and in the end, the parent is even less likely to pay their freaking bill.


Michelle Obama has her name on an initiative for "Healthy School Meals" that gives small children less food, and gives high schoolers more.

It baffles me.  Somebody should send her some watermelon seeds.  You find you need to water growing plants a hell of a lot (fertilizer for vegetables yes... nutrient-rich soil for trees, but not heavily fertilized because fast overfertilized growth weakens the trees and they're supposed to be permanent), and less when they've stopped growing so rapidly.  Lots of water as the seedlings grow and vines stretch out; not so much when they're flowering; TONS of water when they start fruiting.

Who the hell goes, "Hey, I know, let's feed 6 year olds 400 calories and 16 year olds 800 calories!  16 year olds are bigger and need more, right?"

Missing a meal once in a while:  end of the world.  Slow, long-term malnutrition:  championed public policy.
 
2013-09-06 10:22:25 AM  

LasersHurt: The legal system should figure out some way of working this out; wage garnishment perhaps.


I'll assume you don't want to give the state legal authority to garnish wages without going through a lawsuit, right?  Unless you're willing to allow that, you may agree that it makes little financial sense to go after 100 people for $300 each.  In that event, who pays the $30,000?

Our local school systems have cut program after program. No activity buses, no after school programs, families must pay $100 per child per sport if they want to participate, etc.  It's not like these schools have a ton of extra cash laying about.

Aside from solutions that punish the child (such as restriction to a PB & J), I don't have a great number of magic ideas for them.

But feel free to continue to cast stones, etc.
 
2013-09-06 10:25:08 AM  

Belias: I agree that this is better, but it's still punishing only the child, and in the end, the parent is even less likely to pay their freaking bill.


Since when is not giving somebody something they're not paying for "punishing" them? Seems to me that taking from one person to give another person something for free is unjustly "punishing" the former and unjustly "rewarding" the latter.
 
2013-09-06 10:26:17 AM  

Belias: LasersHurt: The legal system should figure out some way of working this out; wage garnishment perhaps.

I'll assume you don't want to give the state legal authority to garnish wages without going through a lawsuit, right?  Unless you're willing to allow that, you may agree that it makes little financial sense to go after 100 people for $300 each.  In that event, who pays the $30,000?

Our local school systems have cut program after program. No activity buses, no after school programs, families must pay $100 per child per sport if they want to participate, etc.  It's not like these schools have a ton of extra cash laying about.

Aside from solutions that punish the child (such as restriction to a PB & J), I don't have a great number of magic ideas for them.

But feel free to continue to cast stones, etc.


Your tone of helplessness is annoying.
 
2013-09-06 10:26:48 AM  
My son has ended up getting the cheese sandwich more than once. No fancy debit card system in our school. They simply just let him run out of money and wait to tell us until he's well into cheese sandwich territory, then send a hacked-off note about how we need to pay up. We're not poor, we'll happily pay up, but we have no way of knowing what his lunch balance is.

Y'all know Fox is troll bait and you're all biting right?
 
2013-09-06 10:27:49 AM  

LasersHurt: Your tone of helplessness is annoying.


*Whew* My work here is done.
 
2013-09-06 10:28:14 AM  

SkinnyHead: Parents are responsible for feeding their children.  If the parents won't feed their children -- if they wont even fill out the forms necessary to get them charity lunch programs -- they should be in jail.


Sounds like this district had a history of not giving a shiat if the forms were filled out, so nobody bothered to do it. Now it has to be filled out to qualify, but people are lazy and they do need a push to fill it out. Maybe the cafeteria could send home an extra form and a reminder note explaining it needs to be filled out for their kid to get lunch next time but we went ahead and fed him today. Hell, the form is easy enough the kid could fill most of it out and just have the parents sign it and enter their income. It's the easiest government form I have ever seen. It's literally just listing your household members, your income, last 4 digits of your SSN, which kid and school you're applying for, and sign it. Took me 2 minutes.

We qualify for reduced lunches, so I still need to keep her account loaded or send her with money, but if I forget they still feed my kid and I pay it off next time. They're not dicks about it.
 
2013-09-06 10:29:52 AM  

Girl Sailor: we have no way of knowing what his lunch balance is


Really?  No phone, no email, no means of communicating with your son about how much he's spent?  That is terrible.  That school district should be ashamed.
 
2013-09-06 10:31:45 AM  

indylaw: Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, 'Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.For I was hungry, and you didn't feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn't give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn't invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn't give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'


Then they will reply, 'Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?'


And he will answer, 'I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.'


Why are some people so preachy?
 
2013-09-06 10:39:33 AM  
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2013-09-06 10:40:07 AM  

The Muthaship: Girl Sailor: we have no way of knowing what his lunch balance is

Really?  No phone, no email, no means of communicating with your son about how much he's spent?  That is terrible.  That school district should be ashamed.


Yes. We have no phone or email or internet. Or...he's very young and has no idea how the lunch system works and can't do the math yet. I can't remember which.
 
2013-09-06 10:41:40 AM  

Zombie DJ: ajgeek: I've forced my kids to skip a meal. Actually I wouldn't feed them anything else when they refused to eat what was put in front of them, then fed them the same meal for breakfast the next morning. One of them made it 24 hours before deciding that it was time to eat what was given to him.

/That one is a handful on every front. Literally tore down the ceiling in his bedroom.

Yep. I freaked out years ago when I was getting ready for school and my mom pulled out the dinner she cooked the previous night for my breakfast.  It was a good lesson to shut up and eat what your parents made until you live on your own.
Now that I do, I have Big Macs for breakfast. Being an adult is awesome.


I had a bag of Skittles and a Red Bull, and it was delicious.
 
2013-09-06 10:42:19 AM  

gfid: indylaw: Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, 'Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.For I was hungry, and you didn't feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn't give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn't invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn't give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'


Then they will reply, 'Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?'


And he will answer, 'I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.'

Why are some people so preachy?


Sorry, but a "deity" whose neglect allowed the corruption, (and by extension, all of the suffering,) of the entire human race has exactly *no* room to expect a higher level of responsibility and empathy on the part of its "subjects".

Preach FAIL.
 
2013-09-06 10:42:40 AM  

Girl Sailor: I can't remember which.


Then maybe you should try one of those former 2 methods to keep tabs on his balance.  I doubt they would withhold the info.  It just sounds pathetic.
 
2013-09-06 10:44:21 AM  
I'm confused. Are they still outraged that Moochelle is starving our kids with only 800 cal. lunches or do they actually want kids to have 0 cal. lunches to punish poor parents.

I know, I know /why not both. Seriously right wingers even you have to see through this bullshiat eventually right?
 
2013-09-06 10:45:31 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Kittypie070: [Force chokes you know who really really thoroughly]

That was very uncomfortable and I demand an apology from your lawyer this instant.  The irony is that you tried to choke me, and yet, those little kids will never choke on school food, because they are poor and cannot afford it.  But alas, such is the life of the liberal: Poor and smelly to the end.


What an ego. I wasn't aiming at you.

Next time you get in my hallucinogenic jellybeans, I ain't bailing you out, man.

/ain't gonna bail you out now, either
 
2013-09-06 11:05:07 AM  
Well, I guess that the idjit who wrote the article and anyone promoting it have never lived with a teenage boy.  He will eat anything that doesn't eat him first.  He eats breakfast, lunch and dinner-all fairly well balanced and by 8:30PM is coming down for more food.  Kid is eating us out of house and home.  And before anyone asks me about my fat stepson, he's skinny as a rail.  Just eats constantly.  Not a cool strategy to deprive kids of food, they'll do worse in school and at home.  Well fed and well adjusted go hand in hand in my household.
 
2013-09-06 11:13:38 AM  

Lsherm: ajgeek: I've forced my kids to skip a meal. Actually I wouldn't feed them anything else when they refused to eat what was put in front of them, then fed them the same meal for breakfast the next morning. One of them made it 24 hours before deciding that it was time to eat what was given to him.

/That one is a handful on every front. Literally tore down the ceiling in his bedroom.

I went to Catholic school growing up and we had a pretty strict dress code.  When I was eight years old I told my mom she didn't do a very good job of ironing my shirt, and that was the week I learned how to iron.  My mother never ironed another thing for me or my twin brother.  I was a smartass, so I just went to school with a wrinkled shirt, but that got me detention.  Took me all of a day to ask her how to iron something, and she told me to ask my father since she "lacked the level of talent you expect from a laundress."

On the plus side, I am a phenomenal ironer.  I am also an excellent cook due to an ill-advised editorial comment  I made when I was ten.


Your mom sounds awesome!
 
2013-09-06 11:18:29 AM  

Somacandra: P.S. I came back the next day and kicked Ms. Ashford's ass. Punched her right in the coont. Told her if she ever talked to me that way again I'd kick her ass so far up her neck she'd have to undo her collar to take a shiat.


As a lifelong fan of humorous threats, I'm stealing this one. I use them for smack talk in my fantasy football league.
 
2013-09-06 11:32:04 AM  
Oh my goodness.

Fatty McPorkins has to skip one meal and might be able to use it to figure out that not everyone
on the planet is fed 5 times a day?

Next, we will expect them to believe that some people eat rice as filler food.
 
2013-09-06 11:37:05 AM  

Lsherm: ajgeek: I've forced my kids to skip a meal. Actually I wouldn't feed them anything else when they refused to eat what was put in front of them, then fed them the same meal for breakfast the next morning. One of them made it 24 hours before deciding that it was time to eat what was given to him.

/That one is a handful on every front. Literally tore down the ceiling in his bedroom.

I went to Catholic school growing up and we had a pretty strict dress code.  When I was eight years old I told my mom she didn't do a very good job of ironing my shirt, and that was the week I learned how to iron.  My mother never ironed another thing for me or my twin brother.  I was a smartass, so I just went to school with a wrinkled shirt, but that got me detention.  Took me all of a day to ask her how to iron something, and she told me to ask my father since she "lacked the level of talent you expect from a laundress."

On the plus side, I am a phenomenal ironer.  I am also an excellent cook due to an ill-advised editorial comment  I made when I was ten.


Lol, are you me? I also went to a Catholic school with a dress code and was read the riot act after critiquing my mom's ironing skills. She handed me the iron and said, "You figure it out, ingrate." So I did.

Decades later, I am the iron master. I have my own system and everything. People ask me who does my dry cleaning. Sadly, I'm only a half-assed cook so I survive primarily on Bachelor Chow.

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2013-09-06 11:47:03 AM  

TopoGigo: Lsherm: So they handed out $50,000 worth of food to kids not because they were too poor to pay for their lunch, but because their parents neglected to fill their lunch cards.

How in the FARK did that happen? It didn't occur to anyone to withhold grade cards? Was their cut-rate software program unable to deal with negative balances? Are the school employees totally incompetent? Is this just a blatant lie?

Seriously, I could see a tiny percentage of kids ending the year with a negative balance, then they transferred out or graduated without paying. But $50k worth? No farking way.


It's not that hard to believe. The school that I work at is going through the exact same thing right now. We have always been a school where we fed the kids no matter what and billed the parents for it later. This year we are moving to a prepay system because we lost over $6,000 last year on unpaid lunch bills. The important thing to understand is that we are a very small school in a very small town. I'm talking under 120 kids k-12. That $6,000 came from just a couple of families. It's not hard to imagine how a larger district could very easily go $50k in the hole. I have 5 kids in school right now, and my school lunch bill easily tops $400/month.

It's a difficult position for the schools. Our previous administrator had the philosophy that we would never let a kid go hungry for any reason. That's a noble way to look at it and, from a moral position, the right way. The reality is that we are on a shoestring budget and any money lost on the hot lunch program comes out of the money that is supposed to be used to pay teachers, buy textbooks, and keep the heat on. In addition, it is very easy to apply for free or reduced meals, so people who are in true economic hardship have no excuse for not filling out a piece of paper and getting their kids' meals paid for. Hell, we'll fill it out for them if they get us the information we need. Those who don't meet the qualifications should be able to afford the meals. If you don't qualify for free/reduced meals and you can't afford or don't want to pay for the lunch plan, you can always have your kid brown-bag a lunch. A couple of bologna sandwiches can made at home for a little bit of nothing.

As far as letting the kids starve to teach the parents a lesson, that's retarded. No kid will ever go without lunch at our school. If they run out of money, they will have a few days grace period to get paid up. After that, they get a cheese sandwich and a glass of milk or water (and, likely, whatever their classmates choose not to eat off of their trays.) It's not perfect, but we're trying to balance the needs of the children with the financial realities of a culture that places very low value on public education. Being in a deep-red state doesn't help that last part any. As far as what some in this thread are saying about holding back report cards and such, if a parent doesn't care enough to make sure that their kid has food to eat during the day, they probably don't give a shiat about any of the rest of it either. Let's face it - some people just suck.
 
2013-09-06 11:58:29 AM  

Mr. Cat Poop: Sounds like this district had a history of not giving a shiat if the forms were filled out, so nobody bothered to do it. Now it has to be filled out to qualify, but people are lazy and they do need a push to fill it out.


Trust me on this... there's not a school district in the nation that doesn't give a substantial shiat about you filling out the free lunch application.  "Number of students receiving free/reduced lunch" is the standard benchmark for "poor", and the more kids enrolled, more federal grant money (Title I, etc) and a hundred other forms of support.

If your kids might qualify for free lunch... hell, if you're willing to lie about it... admin will gladly drive to your house, any hour of the day, and give you cookies to fill out the damned form.  The more 'poor kids' the better.
 
2013-09-06 12:01:45 PM  
A kid misses lunch. Surely this is the greatest and most heinous of crimes ever. The man is pure evil.
 
2013-09-06 12:13:17 PM  
Sure, a teaching moment about what a bunch of colossal assholes Republicans are. The thing is, the cat's already out of the bag on that one. We've known for years what a bunch of assholes they are. And yet they feel compelled to provide fresh evidence on a nearly daily basis.

I guess they really want Hillary to be president in 2016.
 
2013-09-06 12:32:04 PM  
I guess they really want Hillary to be president in 2016.


Good luck with that
 
2013-09-06 12:36:52 PM  

Fluid: Good luck trying to teach hungry people anything that doesn't involve them getting food.


So, maybe the teacher can reward them with food. Humane and effective!

/just don't make them balance it on their noses
 
2013-09-06 12:39:40 PM  

Girl Sailor: No fancy debit card system in our school. They simply just let him run out of money and wait to tell us until he's well into cheese sandwich territory, then send a hacked-off note about how we need to pay up. We're not poor, we'll happily pay up, but we have no way of knowing what his lunch balance is.


Half way into the school year, i got a nasty call from the school that my son owed $45 for lunches. When he'd "forget" his lunch, he'd just get what he thought was a freebie.  I told the school, not to let him EVER charge a thing again, next time i'm not paying.  He "forgot" his lunch exactly two times after that over the next 6 years..  Kid ain't going to starve.  2 hours after lunch the school day ended.
 
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