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2013-09-05 04:39:27 PM  
it is as awesome as it is sad that she felt compelled to write it. north carolina could be great. it's a large, diverse, beautiful state full of smart, talented people. but its new republican masters are hellbent on sending it back to the 19th century. it's really sad.
 
2013-09-05 04:46:41 PM  
You can read the heartbreak as she sees her work valued as nothing. I can't see the video, though.
 
2013-09-05 04:51:51 PM  
I hope she finds a better position more suited to her obvious talents and intelligence. It's a shame that she felt this was necessary.
 
2013-09-05 05:04:53 PM  
The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.
 
2013-09-05 05:28:48 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I can't see the video, though.


It's a montage. If you've been on the Internet for more than 26 minutes, you've seen all the bits.
 
2013-09-05 05:43:50 PM  
I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.
 
2013-09-05 08:29:05 PM  
She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10
 
2013-09-05 08:32:11 PM  

netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.


No. Her job was to be a water quality regulator, and it sure sounds like she wasn't given the manpower or resources to perform her duties anymore, and many of her colleagues were being pushed out and the governor had made the regulators non-exempt so that he could fire anyone who didn't agree with his bullsh*t agenda. My guess is that she and her colleagues were so overwhelmed with work due to all the budget cuts, combined with the terrible regulations the NCGA passed, that she didn't want to be some patsy for the governor when the real sh*t hits the fan.

Government is politics. If you work in government you deal with politics regularly. There's nothing wrong to me about resigning in the way she did - she certainly didn't think she could do her job anymore. I think she's a hero, she stood up for what she felt was wrong and disliked the way the state was going and what the government was doing to destroy the regulatory environment in the state.

You say she's there on a government mandate to perform her duties, then you say it's her job to steer change. Well which is it? Steer change or do what she's told? In the current NC state environment, those two things are at odds with one another.
 
2013-09-05 09:18:11 PM  
Yes. Yes it is.

/That's what SHE said!
 
2013-09-05 09:41:40 PM  
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Susan Wilson

That's one ugly lady.
 
2013-09-05 09:43:57 PM  

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Susan Wilson

That's one ugly lady.


Yeah, I had look at that again too.
 
2013-09-05 09:45:35 PM  
FTA: "Likely there will be some uptick in the business environment in the next few years (mainly because the economy has started to recover from the disaster your friends on Wall Street created)."

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"They're still blaming Republicans and Wall Street."

www.jewwatch.com
"Yeah. What a bunch of rubes."
 
2013-09-05 09:46:19 PM  

netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.


I've never seen anybody do sixteen consecutive back and forward flips in a row, but you just pulled it off.  You respect her, you loathe her, she was right to quit, she was wrong to quit, she had principles, she's just a greedy fark.

Was that trolling or do you just have problems staying focused from one sentence to the next?
 
2013-09-05 09:48:02 PM  
kos? good riddance to bad rubbish
 
2013-09-05 09:48:35 PM  
I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans would cater to big business to the detriment of the general public and the environment.

Shocked.

/Water?  Wet?  Impossible!
 
2013-09-05 09:49:02 PM  
This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.
 
2013-09-05 09:58:05 PM  

Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.


These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

www.dilbert.com
 
2013-09-05 09:58:39 PM  

Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.


Mostly agreed, but there are job situations heinous enough to justify the catharsis. I also like to think that employers might change policies or attitudes for the benefit of those left behind.
 
2013-09-05 09:59:14 PM  

netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.


You may find this hard to believe, but some people actually take pride in their work.
 
2013-09-05 10:01:00 PM  

AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

[www.dilbert.com image 640x199]


Smart.
 
2013-09-05 10:03:19 PM  

Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.


It depends on what her goal was. If her goal was to get a good reference, it's a terrible letter. If her goal was to take a stand about something she believes in, it's a great letter.

I suspect her goal was the latter.
 
2013-09-05 10:04:28 PM  

JesusJuice: netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.

You may find this hard to believe, but some people actually take pride in their work.


No no no. Government workers are always criticized as drones so when they don't fit the mold we must criticize them anyway.
 
2013-09-05 10:06:33 PM  
Kerry finally resigned ?    ...that is a relief.
 
2013-09-05 10:10:58 PM  

Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.


I worked with a guy years ago who wrote a 7 line resignation letter where the first letter of each line spelled "f*ck you". That's bridge-burning.
 
2013-09-05 10:11:31 PM  
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Exactly what I was thinking the "boss" would look like. Just look at those jowls!
 
2013-09-05 10:14:26 PM  

AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.


People don't get into environmental work for the pay...
 
2013-09-05 10:17:09 PM  
And nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-09-05 10:24:21 PM  
It is sad to see North Carolina Rapepublicans turn a great state into such a mess.
 
2013-09-05 10:24:35 PM  
Good, she was just another paper pusher who was keeping us from fracking our way to heaven the way Jesus intended.
 
2013-09-05 10:26:45 PM  

Phil McKraken: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

Mostly agreed, but there are job situations heinous enough to justify the catharsis. I also like to think that employers might change policies or attitudes for the benefit of those left behind.


The older I get, the more I tend to think that nine times out of ten calls for "professionalism" are a demand that you be quiet and meek as you get screwed over.
 
2013-09-05 10:30:41 PM  
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2013-09-05 10:31:48 PM  
I've been to North Carolina more times I'd care to admit, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that NC is a complete shiat-stain of a state. Seriously, nuke it from orbit. There is nothing of value there. Nothing.
 
2013-09-05 10:35:00 PM  

DrPainMD: "Yeah. What a bunch of rubes."


You know how I know you don't know* who was an Ayn Rand acolyte?

*Or pretend not to know
 
2013-09-05 10:36:02 PM  

Aristocles: kos? good riddance to bad rubbish



THIS..
 
2013-09-05 10:36:59 PM  
Usually people with 3 or 4 chins manage to keep them in a row.
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2013-09-05 10:39:06 PM  
Her letter aside, I'm confused about this part from the beginning of the article:

A legislative change to the State Personnel Act in 2012 gave Gov. Pat McCrory the ability to designate 1,000 so-called "exempt positions" throughout his cabinet departments, more than any governor in a quarter-century.
An analysis by WRAL News shows that these re-designated workers are disproportionately concentrated within the hierarchy of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, where McCrory will soon strip employment protections from about 150 directors and managers.


Aren't white collar directors and managers almost always exempt employees?
 
2013-09-05 10:44:28 PM  

Lsherm: Her letter aside, I'm confused about this part from the beginning of the article:

A legislative change to the State Personnel Act in 2012 gave Gov. Pat McCrory the ability to designate 1,000 so-called "exempt positions" throughout his cabinet departments, more than any governor in a quarter-century.
An analysis by WRAL News shows that these re-designated workers are disproportionately concentrated within the hierarchy of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, where McCrory will soon strip employment protections from about 150 directors and managers.

Aren't white collar directors and managers almost always exempt employees?


These exempt positions lose what the NC teachers also just lost, the ability to not be fired for literally no reason.
 
2013-09-05 10:45:36 PM  
Yeah! F*ck the environment! Who needs it!
 
2013-09-05 10:51:28 PM  
Why do Republicans hate America so much?  Why?
 
2013-09-05 10:54:55 PM  
FTFA: I had no problem with the Martin administration - he was a man of science and no extremist.

Jim Martin was one of the last Republicans for whom I had an ounce of respect.  Today he'd be a RINO.
 
2013-09-05 10:56:34 PM  

SauronWasFramed: She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10


So what do you eat, garbage?

"I've never seen garbage eat garbage." -Superman / Clark Kent to Rocky, Superman II.
 
2013-09-05 10:59:31 PM  
The GOP has check mated the country.

They gutted education in their home states.

They bought up the propaganda (Fox News) to replace the education.

It doesn't matter what terrible things are caused by their scorched earth policies, they can claim liberals caused it since the only education these people receive - the Fox News derposphere of Koch sycophants - will confirm this most willingly... and these cousin-banging, dixie-flag waving retards will lap that sh*t up.
 
2013-09-05 11:06:04 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.


I don't think anyone thinks that. I think the GOP usually does what they do because they're not smart enough to understand how things work. They try to make decisions based on bad data or the bible, or perhaps think they can get rich by gaming the system a bit without hurting things overall. They're wrong all around, though.
 
2013-09-05 11:09:00 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: Lsherm: Her letter aside, I'm confused about this part from the beginning of the article:

A legislative change to the State Personnel Act in 2012 gave Gov. Pat McCrory the ability to designate 1,000 so-called "exempt positions" throughout his cabinet departments, more than any governor in a quarter-century.
An analysis by WRAL News shows that these re-designated workers are disproportionately concentrated within the hierarchy of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, where McCrory will soon strip employment protections from about 150 directors and managers.

Aren't white collar directors and managers almost always exempt employees?

These exempt positions lose what the NC teachers also just lost, the ability to not be fired for literally no reason.


Ahem. I have experience here. The exempt positions are just as political and shenanigans filled as this article sounds here in IL, and that's saying something.
These are the positions you get by being tapped in to the current power structure. Rarely are they as qualified as they should be for their jobs largely because anyone who cares about making a difference DOESNT rise to this level, specifically so they can stay longer and try to steer from within. That leaves underqualified (though sometimes well intentioned) people setting priorities and budgets, often with only 2 years in which to be effective. (First year and third year of the term, the other two are elections, so you cant rock the boat.) And make no mistake, you, as a low level (compared to the governor) employee with no protection will NOT be kept into a new administration; you're warming somebody else's seat.
Public employee unions and civil service protection exist for a reason. And we're trained in it here as part of our jobs - look up Rutan. When you demonize the people who make your state run, your gonna lose everyone who's not an opportunist.
 
2013-09-05 11:11:06 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

People don't get into environmental work for the pay...


I've been assured by many of my Tea Party friends that all environmentalists make billions of dollars every year screwing over regular Americans with regulations.  Trillions if they are climatologists.
 
2013-09-05 11:11:10 PM  
i would buy this woman a beer or her alcoholic beverage of choice if i lived in NC then i would get the fark out.
 
2013-09-05 11:12:48 PM  

uh...nobody: Shakin_Haitian: AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

People don't get into environmental work for the pay...

I've been assured by many of my Tea Party friends that all environmentalists make billions of dollars every year screwing over regular Americans with regulations.  Trillions if they are climatologists.


Oh, and Gov grants.  Cant forget those lucrative grants.
 
2013-09-05 11:12:53 PM  
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Excellent movie.
 
2013-09-05 11:28:24 PM  
Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.
 
2013-09-05 11:28:42 PM  
Back in the good old days, we would just gang-beat the guy to death who shiat in the cave.

Power only understands power.
 
2013-09-05 11:37:42 PM  

Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.


Yeah, her letter shows no class and fails to make a good point.  When she starts pulling in all sorts of unrelated bullshiat, (Because the director of an environmental agency in North Carolina can call his boys (she felt it important to make that distinction) on Wall Street and tell them to quit screwing around with the economy, I guess.) she loses credibility.

However good or objective her work might have been, she just pissed on it with this childish letter.  If one is going to take the effort to vent their displeasure, they should at least take the time to present their point effectively.
 
2013-09-05 11:41:00 PM  

Apik0r0s: Power only understands power.


Yep, in other news, we have environmental regulators acting like this

And this

and this.

Not saying this gal wasn't justified in her temper tantrum her, but in some instances, the environmental regulators do need to be checked.
 
2013-09-05 11:46:38 PM  

Sandwyrm: If one is going to take the effort to vent their displeasure, they should at least take the time to present their point effectively.


I agree.  It comes off more as a temper tantrum than anything else.    When you start bringing in politics that are outside the control of your boss, you are going to bring up red flags to any potential employers.
 
2013-09-05 11:50:56 PM  
Bye... 40 applications from family of coworkers already submitted...
 
2013-09-05 11:54:48 PM  

HeadLever: I agree. It comes off more as a temper tantrum than anything else. When you start bringing in politics that are outside the control of your boss, you are going to bring up red flags to any potential employers.


Bingo.
 
2013-09-05 11:57:00 PM  

AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

[www.dilbert.com image 640x199]


I would hire her because of the letter. She has courage and principles.
 
2013-09-05 11:57:28 PM  

Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.


Be a flunky for business lobbyists?
 
2013-09-05 11:57:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.


WinoRhino: I don't think anyone thinks that.


I think that. Conservatives are toddlers.

They have a zero-sum approach to life.

If other people suffer, they think they gain.
If other people succeed, they think they lose.
 
2013-09-05 11:58:09 PM  

Superjew: Why do Republicans hate America so much?  Why?


They love the America in their minds so much that the America that exists seems to them an abomination.
 
2013-09-06 12:03:36 AM  
I dropped a nuke on my bridges from my last job. Felt great.
 
2013-09-06 12:11:57 AM  

kg2095: I would hire her because of the letter. She has courage and principles.


And apparently, a passion for doing the job right. She'd be a great asset to any company that's looking for leadership by example.

Unless she's over 40, of course. Or wants more than minimum wage. Benefits are right out. Maybe an on-call 24/7 contracting gig?
 
2013-09-06 12:22:27 AM  

kg2095: AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

[www.dilbert.com image 640x199]

I would hire her because of the letter. She has courage and principles.


I'd be willing to bet this person already had a job lined up and waiting before she put in her resignation letter.
 
2013-09-06 12:22:52 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I dropped a nuke on my bridges from my last job. Felt great.


This.  If the job is just that bad, you want the bridges to burn while you dance naked near the flames and you never will regret it.
 
2013-09-06 12:29:54 AM  
Doesn't sound like she had bridges to burn.. they were already against her for ideological reasons.
 
2013-09-06 12:33:05 AM  
Some of you seem to think this was purely an idological stance. However that isn't the case. She has worked under several bosses of both flavors during her career without issue.

What could have happened in the last few years to one of those flavors that would prompt a 25yr employee to just ditch her life work?

Maybe just maybe the right wing has gone off the deep end? Naw that can't be I mean a few farkers pointed out she obviously is a left wing hack and is pushing her agenda

This must mean any republican bosses in her last 25yrs were all rinos and not pure enough to force her to quit.
 
2013-09-06 12:40:49 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Yeah! F*ck the environment! Who needs it!


Who needs clean water and air when Jesus is coming to take us all home any day now?
 
2013-09-06 12:45:39 AM  
I can tell you exactlly when I lost any hope for the republican party. It was less than a decade ago and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth just thinking about it...

"You are either with us or against us".

From that point on I knew something bad had happened and well the teahadists just proved my fears. The republican party has transformed from a party that would compremise for the benefit of the country to taking it hostage for their own more and more extreamist views.

Disgusting. I still have faith that the midterms will donkey punch these farkers into reality and maybe we can swing them back towards the center.
 
2013-09-06 12:47:21 AM  

Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.


Yep. Another authoritarian knob-gobbler spews his stupidity upon the web. How's that grovelling working out for you?
 
2013-09-06 12:59:23 AM  
Good letter, but the video was dumb and diminishes her point.
 
2013-09-06 01:10:29 AM  
North Carolina, you are fracked. Enjoy your oily water.
 
2013-09-06 01:19:12 AM  

Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.


She has 25 years in a government environmental position and the writing was on the wall that she was about to be fired by a new boss.  I doubt there were any bridges to burn and if she was any good at what she did, she'll probably be able to walk right into an executive position at a nonprofit.
 
2013-09-06 01:25:55 AM  
Republicans will skip past the actual message and declare it a victory... well until about 10 years down the road when the population figures out wtf happened.
 
2013-09-06 01:46:08 AM  

Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.


random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience
 
2013-09-06 01:46:43 AM  
I can't decide which is better. The letter or the video link of Wiener displaying a complete lack of humility about texting his junk.
 
2013-09-06 01:50:44 AM  

Savage Belief: I can't decide which is better. The letter or the video link of Wiener displaying a complete lack of humility about texting his junk.


How about: Mission Accomplished.
 
2013-09-06 01:58:11 AM  

sawzallz: Savage Belief: I can't decide which is better. The letter or the video link of Wiener displaying a complete lack of humility about texting his junk.

How about: Mission Accomplished.


You know because someone quiting a position and another being a vouyer is WAY more terrible than going to war and killing hundreds of thousands of people and costing billions of bucks all under lies is so much better.

Asshole.
 
2013-09-06 02:18:52 AM  

WordyGrrl: kg2095: I would hire her because of the letter. She has courage and principles.

And apparently, a passion for doing the job right. She'd be a great asset to any company that's looking for leadership by example.

Unless she's over 40, of course. Or wants more than minimum wage. Benefits are right out. Maybe an on-call 24/7 contracting gig?


Well, the very fact that she actually stood up to the Republiderp disqualifies her from 9/10 of the actual paying jobs she could get...but then again, in those jobs she'd just have to put up with more Republiderp, so I don't think she'd be applying for those jobs.
 
2013-09-06 02:26:50 AM  
Or she will lose her job for not falling into the teabagger black hole.. yeah I would drop that also.
 
2013-09-06 02:59:45 AM  
I love the quarterbacking going on in this thread... Educate me more!
 
2013-09-06 03:25:29 AM  
With regards to Water Quality in North Carolina, I'm just gonna leave THIS here...
 
2013-09-06 04:01:33 AM  
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2013-09-06 06:06:50 AM  
On the one hand, I get why she resigned.  On the other hand, it's a shame that we self-select moderate, altruistic people out of positions of importance.
 
2013-09-06 06:20:44 AM  
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2013-09-06 06:34:07 AM  

Superjew: Why do Republicans hate America so much?  Why?


Because Jesus.
 
2013-09-06 06:37:31 AM  

bindlestiff2600: Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience


How would you feel about someone who resigned from the DEA because they got really upset that the administration was being too lenient on medical marijuana dealers?
 
2013-09-06 07:14:04 AM  
the GOP want us to become China.
 
2013-09-06 07:16:04 AM  

Cataholic: bindlestiff2600: Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience

How would you feel about someone who resigned from the DEA because they got really upset that the administration was being too lenient on medical marijuana dealers?


if that's what they felt then fine. they're standing up for what they truly believe.
 
2013-09-06 07:18:20 AM  
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.

It is a financial venture for people who want to make an obscene amount of money through short-term exploitation, at the cost of long-term consequences they will not live to see.

They DO NOT believe what they say.
They DO NOT have loyalty to a party.
They DO NOT hate what you hate.

They speak and act in any way that they think you want to them to, in order to gather your support and donations, and make obscene profits, and then move on in 5 years.

This requires a complete lack of empathy, and the willingness to screw not only you, me, and everyone else; they must be perfectly happy to screw GENERATIONS of people.  You, your children, your grandchildren, and at least SEVEN generations of Americans will suffer the effects of their actions.  And they don't care.  they don't.  They really don't.  They sleep comfortably, warm, and sound.  They truly DO NOT feel bad about what they have done, and are doing.  They grin when they think how they'll be dead long before all the abd things happen to everyone, everywhere.  They are sociopaths.  They truly believe they are LIFE'S WINNERS.

After all... they got rich.
 
2013-09-06 07:19:48 AM  

Cataholic: bindlestiff2600: Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience

How would you feel about someone who resigned from the DEA because they got really upset that the administration was being too lenient on medical marijuana dealers?


So too lenient on marajuana is like being too lenient on water polluters?

Sure you want to go with this one?

We would support the water one because anyone without their head up their ass knows that water is important and it is bad to let industry fark up the water supply.

We (or at least me) wouldn't support the MJ one because it is a relatively harmless drug.
 
2013-09-06 07:47:33 AM  

IrateShadow: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

She has 25 years in a government environmental position and the writing was on the wall that she was about to be fired by a new boss.  I doubt there were any bridges to burn and if she was any good at what she did, she'll probably be able to walk right into an executive position at a nonprofit.


Depends.

I've known politicians with enough pull to blackball former employees in the private sector, usually by threatening to kill contracts or grants if the offender is hired.

This one might be safe.
 
2013-09-06 08:07:58 AM  
Jeebus, my state is heading backwards at the speed of light.
 
2013-09-06 08:08:18 AM  
Isn't this the state that eliminated global warming by banning state agencies from taking any measurements of the ocean levels?
 
2013-09-06 08:27:51 AM  
That video ... lots of men fighting .. dissapointing
 
2013-09-06 08:29:06 AM  

AntiNerd: Resin33: This is probably the worst resignation letter I have seen in a long time. It is not wise to burn bridges on your way out.

These days when you burn a bridge it isn't just the one behind you but it is all of them in front of you. In job interview going forward you can count on a letter like this showing up and they will compare you to a candidate that never had written a letter like that and posted it publicly.

[www.dilbert.com image 640x199]


If interviewing at acompany with principals, this would be a good thing.
 
2013-09-06 08:34:08 AM  

sumida sublight: Isn't this the state that eliminated global warming by banning state agencies from taking any measurements of the ocean levels?


Yeah, I think so.
 
2013-09-06 08:34:59 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Who needs clean water and air when Jesus is coming to take us all home any day now?


You get jokes.
 
2013-09-06 08:37:09 AM  

Macular Degenerate: I've been to North Carolina more times I'd care to admit, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that NC is a complete shiat-stain of a state. Seriously, nuke it from orbit. There is nothing of value there. Nothing.


Except for the "Bat Cave"
 
2013-09-06 08:44:11 AM  
bindlestiff2600:

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience


random survey (local)
    when asked what to do in the face of adversity
    liberals say quit and run away
    conservatives say stand your ground and fight
 
2013-09-06 09:01:10 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Lsherm: Her letter aside, I'm confused about this part from the beginning of the article:

A legislative change to the State Personnel Act in 2012 gave Gov. Pat McCrory the ability to designate 1,000 so-called "exempt positions" throughout his cabinet departments, more than any governor in a quarter-century.
An analysis by WRAL News shows that these re-designated workers are disproportionately concentrated within the hierarchy of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, where McCrory will soon strip employment protections from about 150 directors and managers.

Aren't white collar directors and managers almost always exempt employees?

These exempt positions lose what the NC teachers also just lost, the ability to not be fired for literally no reason.


So for instance. You want to fine a company because they dumped toxic water in the Catawba river? But they give us a campaign contribution. Lets fire them.
 
2013-09-06 09:23:21 AM  

jaytkay: You know how I know you don't know* who was an Ayn Rand acolyte?


if by acolyte you mean sexual partner and co-inventor of objectivist sex
 
2013-09-06 09:31:19 AM  
Why was this made public?

Sounds like she either wants to be the Elizabeth Warren of environmentalists or retire (ie make herself unemployable).
 
2013-09-06 09:44:10 AM  

netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.


Yeah, because packing up your shiat and moving to a whole different state is as easy and changing your mind and wearing your "Tuesday" panties on Wednesday.
 
2013-09-06 09:44:41 AM  

SauronWasFramed: She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10


Login:    SauronWasFramed (UltraFark)  [TotalFark]
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hey, look, another one!
 
2013-09-06 09:51:45 AM  

FlashHarry: SauronWasFramed: She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10

Login:    SauronWasFramed (UltraFark)  [TotalFark]
Account created:    2013-06-27 09:21:16

hey, look, another one!


*snorts* And I'm sure we'll be hearing all about how SauronWasFramed was framed.
 
2013-09-06 09:52:57 AM  

Jackson Herring: jaytkay: You know how I know you don't know* who was an Ayn Rand acolyte?

if by acolyte you mean sexual partner and co-inventor of objectivist sex


I think Greenspan was the only follower who Rand didn't fark.
 
2013-09-06 10:12:59 AM  
What was wrong with the old standby?

"Alright y'all, listen up! Fark, each and every one of y'all!"
 
2013-09-06 10:16:17 AM  
I have worked with DENR and WQ for nearly 30 years as a highway engineer. We were often the 'other guys' when permit review times came up, because, well, highways are disruptive and tend to bring development along with them. They always worked with us, though, and while having to adjust the designs to account for their wetland and erosion control requirements was difficult at times, they were professionals and we had a mutual respect for each other. Both agencies knew what the other one was doing and why.

Watching our legislature systematically dismantle the entire regulatory structure in this state is very discouraging, and even if a majority of Democrats is swept into office in 2014, the damage will already have been done.
 
2013-09-06 10:29:34 AM  
Shiatting on the environment is practically written into the GOP platform. What did she expect?
 
2013-09-06 10:44:21 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.


This
/sorry I'm a bit late reading this thread
 
2013-09-06 10:52:11 AM  

sawzallz: Republicans will skip past the actual message and declare it a victory... well until about 10 years down the road when the population figures out wtf happened.


Then they'll blame it on Hillary and want her impeached.
 
2013-09-06 11:39:37 AM  
What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds coontil recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a political football in North Carolina.

While I certainly do not agree with many of the actions taken by the McCrory adminstration regarding the environment in our state - having this former employee call out the Republicans as extremists when for decades her department automatically approved every project (that hurt the environment) proposed by leading Democratic donors is absurd.
 
2013-09-06 11:42:53 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: bindlestiff2600:

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience

random survey (local)
    when asked what to do in the face of adversity
    liberals say quit and run away
    conservatives say stand your ground and fight


random survey (local)
when asked what to do in the face of adversity
liberals say regroup
conservatives say have some poor slob stand my ground and fight, I am too rich and self important.
 
2013-09-06 11:55:01 AM  

bindlestiff2600: Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience



This is amusing in view that society's perspective is very different...

Democrats generally have good ideas but are hopelessly inept at execution.
Republicans generally have poor ideas but unfortunately are very competent at execution.
 
2013-09-06 01:00:22 PM  

jaytkay: Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.

WinoRhino: I don't think anyone thinks that.

I think that. Conservatives are toddlers.

They have a zero-sum approach to life.

If other people suffer, they think they gain.
If other people succeed, they think they lose.


I don't know how you did it, but you managed to confuse leftists and socialists with conservatives.
 
2013-09-06 02:48:57 PM  

gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.


There is plenty to criticize in the former administration. NC readers may remember the Cannonsgate case in Carteret County. Other environmentally questionable decisions were made by Democrat politicians in the last decade.


"In the middle of the last decade, Cannonsgate got caught up in a corruption investigation of former Gov. Mike Easley, N.C.-D, and colleagues. In 2005, Easley bought a lot in the development at a discount.
In 2010, former Easley aide Ruffin Poole was indicted on more than 50 federal counts, including extortion, bribery and money laundering over accusations he benefited financially while helping expedite coastal developments." Janette Pippin, in Jacksonville Daily News, Sep.3, 2013
http://www.jdnews.com/news/local/real-estate-victims-to-recoup-some- losses-1.196978?page=1

Having said that, I would like to add that the amount of ad hominem on both sides in the comments is shameful- it reflects on the character and educational level of the commenters.

Oh, wait, this is Fark. Disregard last sentence...
 
2013-09-06 03:02:45 PM  

Kibbler: netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.

I've never seen anybody do sixteen consecutive back and forward flips in a row, but you just pulled it off.  You respect her, you loathe her, she was right to quit, she was wrong to quit, she had principles, she's just a greedy fark.

Was that trolling or do you just have problems staying focused from one sentence to the next?


Multiple Alt Syndrome
 
2013-09-06 04:53:34 PM  

gblive: What a completely biased article


Its Daily Kos, Idjit.

I hardly think dismantling an agency and making it welcome mat for Frackers is the equivalent to a few sweetheart deals to the Real Estate contributors.
What is wrong with you people and your false equivalencies.
YES both parties do BAD things duh they are in the business of preserving their power, but what the GOP is doing is just baseless and borderline moustache twirling villainy.
 
2013-09-06 04:56:32 PM  

gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds coontil recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a po ...


Actually, fool, ALL NC state employees got a small pay raise in 2012. I'm also a state employee and recall joking with my coworkers that 'it's an election year, time for another little bone being thrown to us by the legislature'. It was the first raise we state employees received in the last 3-4 years, although the teachers did get raises a little more often.

As for DENR being a political entity, GMAFB. They are apolitical and care about their mandate to protect what's left of NC's water resources a lot more than who is in power. You didn't dig; you tried to smear her totally correct comments with some juvenile reporting tactics.
 
2013-09-06 05:16:06 PM  

Bendal: gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds coontil recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a po ...

Actually, fool, ALL NC state employees got a small pay raise in 2012. I'm also a state employee and recall joking with my coworkers that 'it's an election year, time for another little bone being thrown to us by the legislature'. It was the first raise we state employees received in the last 3-4 years, although the teachers did get raises a little more often.

As for DENR being a political entity, GMAFB. They are apolitical and care about their mandate to protect what's left of NC's water resources a lot more than who is in power. You didn't dig; you tried to smear her totally correct comments with some juvenile reporting tactics.


^THIS
 
2013-09-07 10:39:48 AM  
She says: "I had a bit of distrust for both sides of the aisle".

Then proceeds to blame Republicans and big business for everything.

She might as well have said "I am an independent.  I vote based on whether the candidate is a Democrat or a Democrat."
 
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