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2013-09-06 09:31:19 AM
Why was this made public?

Sounds like she either wants to be the Elizabeth Warren of environmentalists or retire (ie make herself unemployable).
 
2013-09-06 09:44:10 AM

netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.


Yeah, because packing up your shiat and moving to a whole different state is as easy and changing your mind and wearing your "Tuesday" panties on Wednesday.
 
2013-09-06 09:44:41 AM

SauronWasFramed: She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10


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hey, look, another one!
 
2013-09-06 09:51:45 AM

FlashHarry: SauronWasFramed: She had a lot of butthurt. Filled with derp

2/10

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hey, look, another one!


*snorts* And I'm sure we'll be hearing all about how SauronWasFramed was framed.
 
2013-09-06 09:52:57 AM

Jackson Herring: jaytkay: You know how I know you don't know* who was an Ayn Rand acolyte?

if by acolyte you mean sexual partner and co-inventor of objectivist sex


I think Greenspan was the only follower who Rand didn't fark.
 
2013-09-06 10:12:59 AM
What was wrong with the old standby?

"Alright y'all, listen up! Fark, each and every one of y'all!"
 
2013-09-06 10:16:17 AM
I have worked with DENR and WQ for nearly 30 years as a highway engineer. We were often the 'other guys' when permit review times came up, because, well, highways are disruptive and tend to bring development along with them. They always worked with us, though, and while having to adjust the designs to account for their wetland and erosion control requirements was difficult at times, they were professionals and we had a mutual respect for each other. Both agencies knew what the other one was doing and why.

Watching our legislature systematically dismantle the entire regulatory structure in this state is very discouraging, and even if a majority of Democrats is swept into office in 2014, the damage will already have been done.
 
2013-09-06 10:29:34 AM
Shiatting on the environment is practically written into the GOP platform. What did she expect?
 
2013-09-06 10:44:21 AM

Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.


This
/sorry I'm a bit late reading this thread
 
2013-09-06 10:52:11 AM

sawzallz: Republicans will skip past the actual message and declare it a victory... well until about 10 years down the road when the population figures out wtf happened.


Then they'll blame it on Hillary and want her impeached.
 
2013-09-06 11:39:37 AM
What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds (until recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a political football in North Carolina.

While I certainly do not agree with many of the actions taken by the McCrory adminstration regarding the environment in our state - having this former employee call out the Republicans as extremists when for decades her department automatically approved every project (that hurt the environment) proposed by leading Democratic donors is absurd.
 
2013-09-06 11:42:53 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: bindlestiff2600:

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience

random survey (local)
    when asked what to do in the face of adversity
    liberals say quit and run away
    conservatives say stand your ground and fight


random survey (local)
when asked what to do in the face of adversity
liberals say regroup
conservatives say have some poor slob stand my ground and fight, I am too rich and self important.
 
2013-09-06 11:55:01 AM

bindlestiff2600: Cataholic: Her job was to do what the people who elected her superiors wanted her to do.  The fact that she had her own agenda that would no longer be supported or assuaged by said superiors causes no grief to me.  She sounds like the embodiment of what we have all come to know as a bureaucrat.

random survey (local)
    when asked which was more important
    liberals say competence
    conservatives say obedience



This is amusing in view that society's perspective is very different...

Democrats generally have good ideas but are hopelessly inept at execution.
Republicans generally have poor ideas but unfortunately are very competent at execution.
 
2013-09-06 01:00:22 PM

jaytkay: Marcus Aurelius: The GOP is only doing this because they're horrible people that want to destroy the country.

WinoRhino: I don't think anyone thinks that.

I think that. Conservatives are toddlers.

They have a zero-sum approach to life.

If other people suffer, they think they gain.
If other people succeed, they think they lose.


I don't know how you did it, but you managed to confuse leftists and socialists with conservatives.
 
2013-09-06 02:48:57 PM

gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.


There is plenty to criticize in the former administration. NC readers may remember the Cannonsgate case in Carteret County. Other environmentally questionable decisions were made by Democrat politicians in the last decade.


"In the middle of the last decade, Cannonsgate got caught up in a corruption investigation of former Gov. Mike Easley, N.C.-D, and colleagues. In 2005, Easley bought a lot in the development at a discount.
In 2010, former Easley aide Ruffin Poole was indicted on more than 50 federal counts, including extortion, bribery and money laundering over accusations he benefited financially while helping expedite coastal developments." Janette Pippin, in Jacksonville Daily News, Sep.3, 2013
http://www.jdnews.com/news/local/real-estate-victims-to-recoup-some- losses-1.196978?page=1

Having said that, I would like to add that the amount of ad hominem on both sides in the comments is shameful- it reflects on the character and educational level of the commenters.

Oh, wait, this is Fark. Disregard last sentence...
 
2013-09-06 03:02:45 PM

Kibbler: netizencain: I respect her for standing up for what she believes in... on the other hand  her job was do  what the government mandated she do... a government elected by the people.  If she didn't like it, all she had to do was quit and move to a state which was more aligned with her political mindset.  I doubt she was hired to "protect those that don't have a voice ".  She's a government employee plain and simple.  And now, rather than working within the system to help steer change, she just quits.  I'm not defending any of the moronic crap going on in NC as of late, but quitting doesn't make her a martyr or a hero, only unemployed.  Of course now, she'll probably get a good job with T. Boone Pickens, one of if not the largest private water rights holders in America.

I've never seen anybody do sixteen consecutive back and forward flips in a row, but you just pulled it off.  You respect her, you loathe her, she was right to quit, she was wrong to quit, she had principles, she's just a greedy fark.

Was that trolling or do you just have problems staying focused from one sentence to the next?


Multiple Alt Syndrome
 
2013-09-06 04:53:34 PM

gblive: What a completely biased article


Its Daily Kos, Idjit.

I hardly think dismantling an agency and making it welcome mat for Frackers is the equivalent to a few sweetheart deals to the Real Estate contributors.
What is wrong with you people and your false equivalencies.
YES both parties do BAD things duh they are in the business of preserving their power, but what the GOP is doing is just baseless and borderline moustache twirling villainy.
 
2013-09-06 04:56:32 PM

gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds (until recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a po ...


Actually, fool, ALL NC state employees got a small pay raise in 2012. I'm also a state employee and recall joking with my coworkers that 'it's an election year, time for another little bone being thrown to us by the legislature'. It was the first raise we state employees received in the last 3-4 years, although the teachers did get raises a little more often.

As for DENR being a political entity, GMAFB. They are apolitical and care about their mandate to protect what's left of NC's water resources a lot more than who is in power. You didn't dig; you tried to smear her totally correct comments with some juvenile reporting tactics.
 
2013-09-06 05:16:06 PM

Bendal: gblive: What a completely biased article. Let's dig a little.

Susan Wilson is a long term Democratic operative. She holds (until recently) a job in the North Carolina DENR in a non-administrative position. Her title was "Engineer". Her salary was $58,000 per year. Her last pay raise was $688 on 7/1/2012 with the reason of "legislative increase". She started in state government on 9/1/1988. She has been in her current position since 3/9/2009.

The first immediate surprise is that state employee salaries have been frozen for several years in North Carolina. How did Susan Wilson get a pay increase on 7/1/2012 under the previous Democratic administration of Governor Bev Perdue?  Why did she and not all the other state employees get a pay increase at a time when all the salaries were frozen?

All state employee information is public in North Carolina. Her information can be found at multiple sources including the N&O by typing in Susan Wilson for the first and last name as the link below.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/14/989482/state-government-salar ie s.html

The past Democratic governors (Hunt, Easley) obtained large campaign donations from real estate developers. Many of the large real estate developments in the coastal areas that negatively impacted the environment were created by large Democratic donors to these governors, and rubber-stamped by DENR.

Susan Wilson worked in a water quality group that was directly reponsible for automatically rubber-stamping large development projects that were funded by large Democratic donors.

It is hard to make the case that DENR ever worked for the "good of our state and its citizens" - it has always been a entity that worked for politicians and their donors.  It is even harder to make the case that Susan Wilson cares about water quality in view of her record under Democratic administrations.

The current Republican administration has large donors that support fracking rather than real estate development - and DENR is still a po ...

Actually, fool, ALL NC state employees got a small pay raise in 2012. I'm also a state employee and recall joking with my coworkers that 'it's an election year, time for another little bone being thrown to us by the legislature'. It was the first raise we state employees received in the last 3-4 years, although the teachers did get raises a little more often.

As for DENR being a political entity, GMAFB. They are apolitical and care about their mandate to protect what's left of NC's water resources a lot more than who is in power. You didn't dig; you tried to smear her totally correct comments with some juvenile reporting tactics.


^THIS
 
2013-09-07 10:39:48 AM
She says: "I had a bit of distrust for both sides of the aisle".

Then proceeds to blame Republicans and big business for everything.

She might as well have said "I am an independent.  I vote based on whether the candidate is a Democrat or a Democrat."
 
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