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(HitFix)   'Riddick' is more like 'Pitch Black' and less like 'Chronicles of Riddick,' which was doodoo   (hitfix.com ) divider line
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2013-09-05 04:26:42 PM  
I hope so. I really liked Pitch Black. It was more than just Riddick but he was a solid piece of it. I liked the flow, the characters, the ending.

Chronicles was terrible in every sense. I was sadly disappointed they'd taken a simple 'shine job' and turned it into some secret weapon of awesomeness. Lame.

Take Riddick back to his first lines:

They say most of your brain shuts down in cryo-sleep. All but the primitive side, the animal side. No wonder I'm still awake. Transporting me with civilians. Sounded like 40, 40-plus. Heard an Arab voice. Some hoodoo holy man, probably on his way to New Mecca. But what route? What route? I smelt a woman. Sweat, boots, tool belt, leather. Prospector type. Free settlers. And they only take the back roads. And here's my real problem. Mr. Johns... the blue-eyed devil. Planning on taking me back to slam... only this time he picked a ghost lane. A long time between stops. A long time for something to go wrong...

THAT is the character I liked exploring in Pitch Black that ceased to exist in the 2nd.
 
2013-09-05 04:35:53 PM  
whore mouth , and all that.
 
2013-09-05 04:36:51 PM  
Stupidly excited for this. Looks a lot like Pitch Black and Escape from Butcher Bay.
 
2013-09-05 04:48:56 PM  
"Riddick fights an entire planet. That's pretty much it..."

Aaaand sold.
 
2013-09-05 04:50:39 PM  
Pitch Black was an excellent movie, so I have high hopes.
 
2013-09-05 04:55:32 PM  
Liked Pitch Black a lot. Riddick might just be Vin's most iconic character...yep, more than Dom Toretto.

Chronicles...eh, not so much. It felt like a series of ideas that worked out better on paper than on film.
 
2013-09-05 04:55:48 PM  
I liked Chronicles.

Yes it was bad, but I was entertained.
 
2013-09-05 04:56:38 PM  
If by "doo doo" subtard meant more entertaining and logical than the J Treks, then I guess it was.
 
2013-09-05 04:58:32 PM  
I wanna see Riddick, Bane and Khal Drogo in a triple threat match. The winner takes on Imhotep
 
Ash
2013-09-05 04:59:10 PM  
I like Pitch Black and I also loved Chronicles of Riddick.  They are very different movies, but I enjoyed both.  I will stop and watch either one when I see it on tv.  This new movie can't go wrong!
 
2013-09-05 04:59:29 PM  
Glad to hear it's more like Pitch Black. I'll be seeing it this weekend it looks like.
 
2013-09-05 05:00:54 PM  
I think the Chronicles of Riddick could have been a good movie -- it's a little over the top and cheesy -- but investigating the sci-fi world of the necros could be an interesting sequel/prequel. However, coming from Pitch Black, it's terrible because that's a monster action movie, not a sci-fi realm.

At the same time, I'd love to see an honest movie version of Nightfall, but there's no room for Vin Diesel in that story.
 
2013-09-05 05:00:58 PM  
Pitch Black was trite crap, and required a few stupid pills to enjoy.   Chronicles was bad too, but it had some surprising epic plot points.   A sequel to Chronicles would have drawn me to the theater--but not this.
 
2013-09-05 05:05:19 PM  
Chronicles was a new franchise that had some nifty ideas, but it had too much crammed into one flick.  It may have been better as a series rather than a feature film.

It was still fun and enjoyable, but it did not live up to its predecessor or its potential.

It did have Thandie Newton in tight rubber dresses.  That helps
 
2013-09-05 05:07:07 PM  
Wait, all this Riddick shiat is related to Pitch Black somehow??
 
2013-09-05 05:07:36 PM  
F*ck me I can't wait to see this. It's been such an incredibly busy summer I haven't had time to see anything I wanted to, but I will be making time for this one.
 
2013-09-05 05:09:25 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Wait, all this Riddick shiat is related to Pitch Black somehow??



Riddick was quite literally the main character of Pitch Black.
 
2013-09-05 05:09:38 PM  
Pitch Black was a pretty decent movie I enjoyed. Chronicles of Riddick was a pulpy B sci-fi movie, which I also enjoyed, for different reasons.

I was pleasently surprised to see that Riddick has been reviewed well, and may actually try to see it in the theaters.
 
2013-09-05 05:10:01 PM  
CoR screwed up by trying to appeal to the teenage audience and slapping a PG-13 rating on it when the only people who saw the first one were 17 or older (or had cool parents). PG-13 hurts franchises as far as their quality. It'll make some more money, sure, but it hurts.*

I said I would only see this if they went back to the R rating.

I will see this.

*I know, I know, Hollywood only cares about the cash
 
2013-09-05 05:10:32 PM  

R.A.Danny: I liked Chronicles.

Yes it was bad, but I was entertained.


Same.  It's been years but I don't remember actively disliking it. It was a little over the top, but I still enjoyed it.
 
2013-09-05 05:10:35 PM  
I love Vin Diesel.  I've heard interviews where he basically says that he does all his other movies (Fast and Furious, etc.) just so he can make enough money to do Riddick stuff.  He says he doesn't care if they make a dime, he makes them because he enjoys them.

He also founded a video game company just to make the two Riddick video games, which were both excellent and add a lot to the canon.

There's also the anime film, Dark Fury.

I'm sooooo stoked to see the new Riddick film, as is my wife.  She just had foot surgery today, and she's making me take her in a wheelchair to see it.  :)
 
2013-09-05 05:12:39 PM  

lousyskater: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Wait, all this Riddick shiat is related to Pitch Black somehow??


Riddick was quite literally the main character of Pitch Black.



Well, him and Radha Mitchell's character.

Whatever happened to her?  She was hot.  I fapped to her many times in High Art, where she played Ally Sheedy's lesbian lover.
 
2013-09-05 05:13:53 PM  

R.A.Danny: I liked Chronicles.

Yes it was bad, but I was entertained.


And the American public speaks again.  Transformers 11, here we come!
 
2013-09-05 05:15:51 PM  

Bloody Templar: I love Vin Diesel.  I've heard interviews where he basically says that he does all his other movies (Fast and Furious, etc.) just so he can make enough money to do Riddick stuff.  He says he doesn't care if they make a dime, he makes them because he enjoys them.

He also founded a video game company just to make the two Riddick video games, which were both excellent and add a lot to the canon.

There's also the anime film, Dark Fury.

I'm sooooo stoked to see the new Riddick film, as is my wife.  She just had foot surgery today, and she's making me take her in a wheelchair to see it.  :)


Vin Diesel seems like a very cool and down to earth guy. Still doesn't explain The Pacifier though.
 
2013-09-05 05:16:27 PM  

RantCasey: R.A.Danny: I liked Chronicles.

Yes it was bad, but I was entertained.

And the American public speaks again.  Transformers 11, here we come!


i.qkme.me
 
2013-09-05 05:17:50 PM  
Apparently a lot people are calling this Pitch Black Redux.
 
2013-09-05 05:21:48 PM  

eddievercetti: Apparently a lot people are calling this Pitch Black Redux.



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2013-09-05 05:28:25 PM  
Chronicles didn't really work for me, then I found out Vin is a huge D&D fan.  So I watched it again going on the premise that it was 3rd edition rules and Riddick had taken some Prestige levels in between movies.  Then it made perfect sense.
 
2013-09-05 05:28:31 PM  
I could tell by the trailers it was Pitch Black Redux with the beginning of Chronicles.

Chronicles reached really high with it's aspirations, but putting the whole Underverse aspect to it, effectively attempting to make some mystic religion to go with the established canon kind of ruined it. Sure, the character is one dimensional, but the story they put around it in the first one worked so very well. It's nice to see them attempt to recapture this element without the hokie religion shtuff.

For all that Chronicles attempted to be, it fell flat, which is sad, because had they pulled back the reins enough, it could have been huge and added a much needed layer to the character.
 
2013-09-05 05:37:09 PM  
I don't understand how they could get from the end of Chronicles to what the trailers are showing.  I heard some hand waving along the lines of "the Necromongers betrayed him", but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever because "you keep what you kill", so they would never betray him (without beating him in battle and killing him which obviously didn't happen).
 
2013-09-05 05:37:59 PM  

Ash: I like Pitch Black and I also loved Chronicles of Riddick.  They are very different movies, but I enjoyed both.  I will stop and watch either one when I see it on tv.  This new movie can't go wrong!


I really do see them as two entirely different movies that just have Riddick in them... the universes in the second one doesn't really "feel" like it matched up with the first one at all.

I kind of enjoyed  Chronicles but  Pitch Black is the movie I wouldn't mind seeing sequels made of. Looking forward to this one..
 
2013-09-05 05:39:07 PM  
Chronicles felt like they just dropped Riddick into a completely unrelated universe.  It felt like the only reason he was there was to draw in some of the cult fans of Pitch Black.  It didn't work for me because the settings didn't feel like they had anything related.  For instance, the cryo-ships in Pitch Black don't fit with the far more advanced tech in Chronicles.

If Chronicles hadn't tried to tie into Pitch Black, I think it wouldn't have left that sour taste in my mouth.
 
2013-09-05 05:39:31 PM  

Geotpf: I don't understand how they could get from the end of Chronicles to what the trailers are showing.  I heard some hand waving along the lines of "the Necromongers betrayed him", but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever because "you keep what you kill", so they would never betray him (without beating him in battle and killing him which obviously didn't happen).


They released a comic or online animated thing regarding how it all happened, then the Necromongers left for the Underverse or whatever never to be heard from again.
 
2013-09-05 05:41:24 PM  
If you keep doing that, you might as well have The Walking Dead. By that I mean you have a series that just does the same thing over and over, and while the circumstances change and it can be entertaining, it can easily get boring. Where The Walking Dead can basically be summed up as "people arguing, then zombies attack", Riddick movies could become "Riddick is a badass on a desolate and hostile planet, and then other people get involved".
 
2013-09-05 05:42:16 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Bloody Templar: I love Vin Diesel.  I've heard interviews where he basically says that he does all his other movies (Fast and Furious, etc.) just so he can make enough money to do Riddick stuff.  He says he doesn't care if they make a dime, he makes them because he enjoys them.

He also founded a video game company just to make the two Riddick video games, which were both excellent and add a lot to the canon.

There's also the anime film, Dark Fury.

I'm sooooo stoked to see the new Riddick film, as is my wife.  She just had foot surgery today, and she's making me take her in a wheelchair to see it.  :)

Vin Diesel seems like a very cool and down to earth guy. Still doesn't explain The Pacifier though.


This is where Michael Caine starts talking.
 
2013-09-05 05:44:43 PM  
Wasn't this fact abundantly clear just from the trailers?

Plus Katee Sackhoff. Yum.


Ash: I like Pitch Black and I also loved Chronicles of Riddick.  They are very different movies, but I enjoyed both.  I will stop and watch either one when I see it on tv.  This new movie can't go wrong!


Same. I dig both movies. Very different in tone and style, though.


Geotpf: I don't understand how they could get from the end of Chronicles to what the trailers are showing.  I heard some hand waving along the lines of "the Necromongers betrayed him", but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever because "you keep what you kill", so they would never betray him (without beating him in battle and killing him which obviously didn't happen).


Here ya go.

Watch: 'Riddick' Motion Comic Explains the Transition from the Last Film to the New One
 
2013-09-05 05:44:57 PM  

Clutch2013: Chronicles...eh, not so much. It felt like a series of ideas that worked out better on paper than on film.


Some of this.  I liked it well enough, but it did suffer from sequel-itis shoehorning.  I liked Pitch Black feeling like an isolated story from the Riddick Universe(they did a million times better than Star Wars (though they had the added challenge of being pre-quells), and that was executed well enough in chronicles, but some of what they did was cheesy.

Hard not to be when you are considering technology so far advanced it looks like magic....plus magic.  They could have smoothed the edges much better, but it was still a good movie.

I feel it didn't do a great thing when it came out because a LOT of sci-fi, even great quality stuff, falls by the wayside, it just isn't mainstream enough to really do excellent.  A lot of people just give it a pass anymore, in favor of something they're more sure to enjoy or identify with.

Avengers/Iron man didn't make it because of comic fans, they made it because Iron Man / RDJ was an epic breakthrough, several of the origin stories only made it because of the continual rumors that it was going to lead to Avengers, based on an awesome Iron Man and ensemble casts.  Selling based on reputation of a good start, and great potential.

Sci-fi is still a niche, and to break out of that and gain mainstream followers, you've got to borrow from things like drama or comedy and action...or live on a brand name / franchise.

For what it was, Riddick and Chronicles did excellent.  Independent sci-fi that has become something of a cult franchise.
 
2013-09-05 05:46:04 PM  
I loved both movies. Haven't seen the anime one yet.
 
2013-09-05 05:47:03 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: For instance, the cryo-ships in Pitch Black don't fit with the far more advanced tech in Chronicles.


This bothered me as well. The first one had like B5-level technology (only no Centauri giving us jump gates and no Minbari eventually gifting us artificial gravity etc.) and in the sequel they're hopping around multiple star systems Star Wars style.
 
2013-09-05 05:48:56 PM  
i really enjoyed both Pitch Black & Chronicles of Riddick.  i thought CoR did a real good job of creating an entire universe (or is it omniverse?) and even though i am really really really worn out on zombies in everything, i thought the whole "necromonger" was a kinda neat twist.

i've tried not steer clear of the previews cause spoilers and all, but i'm a little unsure about this new one.  will certainly check it out.  when it hits dvd.

/never go out to movies anymore
 
2013-09-05 05:50:44 PM  

inner ted: /never go out to movies anymore


I can almost say that, but I have a six year old. Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs II is next.
 
2013-09-05 06:05:46 PM  
Roddick retired.  Also, *SPOILER ALERT* Murray's out.

*oils hamster wheel*

Oh.  My mistake.
 
2013-09-05 06:09:21 PM  

R.A.Danny: inner ted: /never go out to movies anymore

I can almost say that, but I have a six year old. Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs II is next.


i haven't seen a flick in the theaters since 'batman begins'  & that was before my little one, so i didn't have him as an excuse.  just a hermit.

or that i can be more comfortable at home with a great picture and sound and ... what else.. o ya, distinct lack of strangers that i don't care to be around.

have seen more Daniel Tiger than i care for though
 
2013-09-05 06:13:43 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Bloody Templar: I love Vin Diesel.  I've heard interviews where he basically says that he does all his other movies (Fast and Furious, etc.) just so he can make enough money to do Riddick stuff.  He says he doesn't care if they make a dime, he makes them because he enjoys them.

He also founded a video game company just to make the two Riddick video games, which were both excellent and add a lot to the canon.

There's also the anime film, Dark Fury.

I'm sooooo stoked to see the new Riddick film, as is my wife.  She just had foot surgery today, and she's making me take her in a wheelchair to see it.  :)

Vin Diesel seems like a very cool and down to earth guy. Still doesn't explain The Pacifier though.


He's going to be on Craig Ferguson tonight, for anyone who's interested.
 
2013-09-05 06:16:08 PM  

Ash: I like Pitch Black and I also loved Chronicles of Riddick.  They are very different movies, but I enjoyed both.  I will stop and watch either one when I see it on tv.  This new movie can't go wrong!


No.

See, the Ridicule of Chronic took a character that was just a person (albeit one full of bad-assitude), and turned it into something all mystic.

I'm sorry.  I like my science fiction films to not be fantasy fiction with scientifical-ish elements.

In short, The Chronicles of Ridiculous was, well, ridiculous.
 
2013-09-05 06:21:55 PM  
kinda looking forward to this, good story so far lets hope it continues.
 
kab
2013-09-05 06:23:53 PM  

olapbill: whore mouth , and all that.


Exactly.

/looking forward to this.
//nothing wrong with dumb action flicks.
 
2013-09-05 06:26:50 PM  
Hopefully this also means a new video game!!!!
 
2013-09-05 06:31:18 PM  
I love Pitch Black because it was unexpected and falls into a favorite niche (sci-fi / space survival / horror) and even though it was lower budget, the lighting and characters just work.  You don't have to have guns to be a badass.    Plus, Claudia Black and Radha Mitchell.  Keith David's pretty decent too.

Sadly, never finished the Riddick games.  By the time I found out about them, they just felt too dated to play.
The Dark Fury anime was alright, and nice for the filler story, but the animation's totally not my style.

Chronicles was alright and enjoyable but, like others said, it was really hurt by the PG13 target and compacted story.  Guess just felt like the necros and some of the fantasy stuff came out of nowhere.  Some good lines though:
"Irgun.  One of my best."
"If you say so."

I have not looked forward to a movie this much in a long time and love hearing that it's more like PB.  Riddick is a great character, and Diesel has really brought him to life.  Back to life, even.  Out of his own pocket.  For that, Diesel gets a lifetime pass from me.
 
2013-09-05 06:37:59 PM  
Should've taken the money Toombs
 
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