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2013-09-05 11:25:44 AM  

Quasar: I'm still angry at the Weiner. He was the kind of firebrand Democrat we needed and instead decided to go off and fark around behind his wife's back, and then have it come out that he was still doing it a year later after his disgraced resignation.


Agreed.  I really liked his approach and passion toward his role in government.  It really stood out among the bland masses.  Too bad he turned out to be a dick in his personal life.
 
2013-09-05 11:27:08 AM  

spongeboob: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: So Arab is an insult?

are you being serious

do you seriously not get why what that guy said was incredibly racist and insulting

It was meant as an insult but taking it as an insult also says something about the person who is insulted.

Let me try another example, if someone asks me if I am gay and I get really insulted by that it means that in my mind being gay is a bad thing.


That's not what happened here though.

He didn't ask if his wife was Arab, and he wasn't presenting it as some factual argument. He was attempting to use her race to buttress his notion that Weiner is a scumbag.

Really, you're trying too hard here.
 
2013-09-05 11:27:54 AM  

Delawheredad: Wiener hid behind his wife's skirts when his second texting peccadillo was discovered. Now he is the noble white knight charging to her rescue? Sue I'll buy that!


shiatty husbands love their wives all the time... they just suck at the whole "not being a dirtbag" thing.

For what it's worth you not understanding this probably speaks well of your lack of interaction with such scumbags.
 
2013-09-05 11:29:51 AM  

Quasar: I'm still angry at the Weiner. He was the kind of firebrand Democrat we needed and instead decided to go off and fark around behind his wife's back, and then have it come out that he was still doing it a year later after his disgraced resignation.


Is he a firebrand or merely a hothead who can't keep it in his pants?
 
2013-09-05 11:30:20 AM  
"He has also been dogged by stories of his "intensity," including allegations he once threw a salad at a wall... "

MONSTER!
 
2013-09-05 11:34:53 AM  
Mrbogey: Rwa2play: Mrbogey: Nothing can change the fact that Weiner has a character problem and his supporters are poor judges of character.

This from someone that cheered as Mark Sanford won in SC...

I don't recall my specific words regarding Sanford winning but I do believe I felt he was the better candidate in the general election. I don't recall ever saying he was a great candidate.

And that automatically disqualifies you from judging Weiner.  When did Weiner skip out on his duties to serve his constituency to get his rocks off?
 
2013-09-05 11:35:51 AM  

Headso: Mrbogey: I don't recall my specific words regarding Sanford winning but I do believe I felt he was the better candidate in the general election.

heh, I can't believe someone who is on record as supporting  a philanderer has the lack of shame to come in here and make fun of wiener supporters. But, that's republicans for ya...


Yeah, basically IOKIYAR.
 
2013-09-05 11:37:52 AM  

Mrbogey: Nothing can change the fact that Weiner has a character problem and his supporters are poor judges of character.


Which has nothing to do with him being absolutely in the right here. I don't care what he's done in his political career, he's got the right to defend his wife from insults hurled by random dbag in a deli.

Want to call Weiner a scumbag? Go for it, he pretty much deserves it. Insulting his wife for being an "Arab"? You crossed the line, and is he wasn't a politician and just some other random dbag in a deli you'd probably be looking at a punch in the face.
 
2013-09-05 11:50:25 AM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Delawheredad: Wiener hid behind his wife's skirts when his second texting peccadillo was discovered. Now he is the noble white knight charging to her rescue? Sue I'll buy that!

shiatty husbands love their wives all the time... they just suck at the whole "not being a dirtbag" thing.

For what it's worth you not understanding this probably speaks well of your lack of interaction with such scumbags.


Can't decide which of you is the more endearing.
 
2013-09-05 11:55:52 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: spongeboob: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: So Arab is an insult?

are you being serious

do you seriously not get why what that guy said was incredibly racist and insulting

It was meant as an insult but taking it as an insult also says something about the person who is insulted.

Let me try another example, if someone asks me if I am gay and I get really insulted by that it means that in my mind being gay is a bad thing.

That's not what happened here though.

He didn't ask if his wife was Arab, and he wasn't presenting it as some factual argument. He was attempting to use her race to buttress his notion that Weiner is a scumbag.

Really, you're trying too hard here.


Okay one or a mixture of the following happened

Weiner had no problem being called a scumbag but was upset when his wife was called a racist name.

Weiner got offended when be called a scumbag and his wife being called a racist name.

Weiner got offended at being called a scumbag and used the point that his wife was also insulted to make his anger appear righteous.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and wouldn't marry one and is angry that someone thinks he would.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and thinks it offensive to his wife to say that she is one.


Really could clear this up with a couple of questions.
Mr Weiner do you think you are a scumbag, does it bother you that some people believe you are?
Mr Weiner do you have a problem with Arabs, would you marry an arab?
 
2013-09-05 11:58:56 AM  
This belongs on the Entertainment tab.
 
2013-09-05 12:02:36 PM  

js34603: Which has nothing to do with him being absolutely in the right here. I don't care what he's done in his political career, he's got the right to defend his wife from insults hurled by random dbag in a deli.

Want to call Weiner a scumbag? Go for it, he pretty much deserves it. Insulting his wife for being an "Arab"? You crossed the line, and is he wasn't a politician and just some other random dbag in a deli you'd probably be looking at a punch in the face.


This is a common line from right wing extremists, especially the Holy Rollers.  If someone has committed some sin in their mind, it becomes permissible to say or do ANYTHING to them.  Because you're only required to be a good person to someone who can pass the most stringent of purity tests.
 
2013-09-05 12:20:23 PM  

Shieldmaiden: Crotchrocket Slim: Delawheredad: Wiener hid behind his wife's skirts when his second texting peccadillo was discovered. Now he is the noble white knight charging to her rescue? Sue I'll buy that!

shiatty husbands love their wives all the time... they just suck at the whole "not being a dirtbag" thing.

For what it's worth you not understanding this probably speaks well of your lack of interaction with such scumbags.

Can't decide which of you is the more endearing.


Hey I just know that this whole "monogamy" thing isn't for all people; assuming they don't have some sort of open marriage arrangement, Weiner should have never gotten married no matter how much he loves Abedin.
 
2013-09-05 12:22:17 PM  

spongeboob: HotWingConspiracy: spongeboob: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: So Arab is an insult?

are you being serious

do you seriously not get why what that guy said was incredibly racist and insulting

It was meant as an insult but taking it as an insult also says something about the person who is insulted.

Let me try another example, if someone asks me if I am gay and I get really insulted by that it means that in my mind being gay is a bad thing.

That's not what happened here though.

He didn't ask if his wife was Arab, and he wasn't presenting it as some factual argument. He was attempting to use her race to buttress his notion that Weiner is a scumbag.

Really, you're trying too hard here.

Okay one or a mixture of the following happened

Weiner had no problem being called a scumbag but was upset when his wife was called a racist name.

Weiner got offended when be called a scumbag and his wife being called a racist name.

Weiner got offended at being called a scumbag and used the point that his wife was also insulted to make his anger appear righteous.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and wouldn't marry one and is angry that someone thinks he would.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and thinks it offensive to his wife to say that she is one.


Really could clear this up with a couple of questions.
Mr Weiner do you think you are a scumbag, does it bother you that some people believe you are?
Mr Weiner do you have a problem with Arabs, would you marry an arab?


Why don't you just admit you got nothing? You'd stop looking actively stupid instead of merely passively dumb.
 
2013-09-05 12:24:29 PM  

Jackson Herring: THX 1138: Except he wasn't.

ahh haha look at this guy not getting jokes


I think all of your sarcastic and/or joking posts should be accompanied by a fat dog jpeg. Or a fart joke.
That way, nobody gets hurt.
 
2013-09-05 12:30:00 PM  
Do we have ANYTHING but Weiner's word that this guy called her an Arab or said anything about her? Remember, Weiner is the guy who said his twitter account was "hacked" for a week to try and hide the fact that he sends out pictures of his penis to random girls from his official twitter account. I just don't believe the guy. Also "takes one to know one" is not really a comeback you would say to someone who told you you're married to an Arab.
 
2013-09-05 12:30:05 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: js34603: Which has nothing to do with him being absolutely in the right here. I don't care what he's done in his political career, he's got the right to defend his wife from insults hurled by random dbag in a deli.

Want to call Weiner a scumbag? Go for it, he pretty much deserves it. Insulting his wife for being an "Arab"? You crossed the line, and is he wasn't a politician and just some other random dbag in a deli you'd probably be looking at a punch in the face.

This is a common line from right wing extremists, especially the Holy Rollers.  If someone has committed some sin in their mind, it becomes permissible to say or do ANYTHING to them.  Because you're only required to be a good person to someone who can pass the most stringent of purity tests.


QFtheMFT
 
2013-09-05 12:38:26 PM  
How about that Weiner has REPEATEDLY lied to the people he's supposed to represent, admitted it and then asked that those people trust him again? That makes him unfit for office to me and it has nothing to do with religion.
 
2013-09-05 12:38:35 PM  

THX 1138: Quasar: I'm still angry at the Weiner. He was the kind of firebrand Democrat we needed and instead decided to go off and fark around behind his wife's back, and then have it come out that he was still doing it a year later after his disgraced resignation.

Agreed.  I really liked his approach and passion toward his role in government.  It really stood out among the bland masses.  Too bad he turned out to be a dick in his personal life.


The thing is, he could have avoided all of this if he had just come out right at the beginning, even the second time, and said, "You know, that's an aspect of my personal life and has nothing to do with my role in public service. I've talked it over with my wife, and she and I have worked it out and that's all I intend to say about the matter."

Instead he went through this song and dance of flat out lying about it, badly, then tried to pretend he wasn't doing it any more, then lied about it some more...

It's the lying that really did him in.
 
2013-09-05 12:40:41 PM  

jyoders19: Do we have ANYTHING but Weiner's word that this guy called her an Arab or said anything about her? Remember, Weiner is the guy who said his twitter account was "hacked" for a week to try and hide the fact that he sends out pictures of his penis to random girls from his official twitter account. I just don't believe the guy. Also "takes one to know one" is not really a comeback you would say to someone who told you you're married to an Arab.


The dude he got into a yelling match with pretty much confirms the story plus comes off like a complete loon. This is one time it's not entirely stupid to believe Weiner.

That said he needs to move to somewhere he'll never be recognized again.
 
2013-09-05 12:43:13 PM  
I don't believe the guy said ANYTHING about Weiner's wife. I just don't. Weiner's a pathological liar and I don't put it past him to make this up and say it IN A PRESS CONFERENCE because he knows it's his word against the other guy's. I think this is a pattern of Weiner using that poor woman as a shield for his selfish, arrogant and perverted behavior. It's certainly not the first time he's used her that way.
 
2013-09-05 12:44:14 PM  
"The dude he got into a yelling match with pretty much confirms the story plus comes off like a complete loon." How so? Citation or link?
 
2013-09-05 12:48:08 PM  

jyoders19: I don't believe the guy said ANYTHING about Weiner's wife. I just don't. Weiner's a pathological liar and I don't put it past him to make this up and say it IN A PRESS CONFERENCE because he knows it's his word against the other guy's. I think this is a pattern of Weiner using that poor woman as a shield for his selfish, arrogant and perverted behavior. It's certainly not the first time he's used her that way.


Except the guy admitted it. Maybe Weiner planted him in that deli...false flag?
 
2013-09-05 12:52:05 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: jyoders19: Do we have ANYTHING but Weiner's word that this guy called her an Arab or said anything about her? Remember, Weiner is the guy who said his twitter account was "hacked" for a week to try and hide the fact that he sends out pictures of his penis to random girls from his official twitter account. I just don't believe the guy. Also "takes one to know one" is not really a comeback you would say to someone who told you you're married to an Arab.

The dude he got into a yelling match with pretty much confirms the story plus comes off like a complete loon. This is one time it's not entirely stupid to believe Weiner.

That said he needs to move to somewhere he'll never be recognized again.


That, and the video where he says "scumbag...married to an Arab."
 
2013-09-05 12:56:49 PM  
There's no part of the video where he says "scumbag... married to an arab." None. Again, if you have ANYTHING other than Weiner's word that he "admitted it" please provide a link or a citation. I don't trust Weiner.
 
2013-09-05 12:57:00 PM  
Do we have ANYTHING but Weiner's word that this guy called her an Arab or said anything about her?

it's right there in the farking video holy shiat
 
2013-09-05 12:58:47 PM  

jyoders19: "The dude he got into a yelling match with pretty much confirms the story plus comes off like a complete loon." How so? Citation or link?


Just found this...
http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=MDJFvglOUKQ


Reached by CNN later in the day, Kessler admitted calling out Weiner for being "married to an Arab."

"It's just a certain feeling I have as a Jew," said the 51-year-old real estate manager, explaining his remark. "And my attitude is that -- not all Arabs -- but, in general, ... they want to kill every Jew."

Kessler said of a Jewish person marrying into such a family: "It's like a betrayal."
 
2013-09-05 12:58:53 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Hey I just know that this whole "monogamy" thing isn't for all people; assuming they don't have some sort of open marriage arrangement, Weiner should have never gotten married no matter how much he loves Abedin.


Not defending Weiner, but did he actually ever 'cheat' on Abedin?  I mean, I know we can't believe anything he says about it, but is there any sort of allegation or proof that he actually slept with someone besides his wife?  Does it count as not being monogamous to send pictures of your junk to other women?

I need to know for an... uh... research project.  Yeah.
 
2013-09-05 12:59:34 PM  

jyoders19: There's no part of the video where he says "scumbag... married to an arab." None. Again, if you have ANYTHING other than Weiner's word that he "admitted it" please provide a link or a citation. I don't trust Weiner.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/politics/new-york-weiner-married-arab/
 
2013-09-05 01:02:39 PM  
That's a different camera. That just wasn't in the original video. Thanks for providing it.
 
2013-09-05 01:04:16 PM  

mouse fitzgerald: Crotchrocket Slim: Hey I just know that this whole "monogamy" thing isn't for all people; assuming they don't have some sort of open marriage arrangement, Weiner should have never gotten married no matter how much he loves Abedin.

Not defending Weiner, but did he actually ever 'cheat' on Abedin?  I mean, I know we can't believe anything he says about it, but is there any sort of allegation or proof that he actually slept with someone besides his wife?  Does it count as not being monogamous to send pictures of your junk to other women?

I need to know for an... uh... research project.  Yeah.


A lot of people do consider such flirtation cheating.

I'm of the opinion you need to find someone who has compatible ideas of cheating with yours etc. so his behavior (even if we were to ignore his lying and wasting taxpayer resources to further that lie) does at least warrant discussion.
 
2013-09-05 01:06:04 PM  

Job Creator: Crotchrocket Slim: jyoders19: Do we have ANYTHING but Weiner's word that this guy called her an Arab or said anything about her? Remember, Weiner is the guy who said his twitter account was "hacked" for a week to try and hide the fact that he sends out pictures of his penis to random girls from his official twitter account. I just don't believe the guy. Also "takes one to know one" is not really a comeback you would say to someone who told you you're married to an Arab.

The dude he got into a yelling match with pretty much confirms the story plus comes off like a complete loon. This is one time it's not entirely stupid to believe Weiner.

That said he needs to move to somewhere he'll never be recognized again.

That, and the video where he says "scumbag...married to an Arab."


I'd had read that the guy was interviewed but hadn't seen the video, thanks!
 
2013-09-05 01:06:25 PM  

spongeboob: HotWingConspiracy: spongeboob: Jackson Herring: spongeboob: So Arab is an insult?

are you being serious

do you seriously not get why what that guy said was incredibly racist and insulting

It was meant as an insult but taking it as an insult also says something about the person who is insulted.

Let me try another example, if someone asks me if I am gay and I get really insulted by that it means that in my mind being gay is a bad thing.

That's not what happened here though.

He didn't ask if his wife was Arab, and he wasn't presenting it as some factual argument. He was attempting to use her race to buttress his notion that Weiner is a scumbag.

Really, you're trying too hard here.

Okay one or a mixture of the following happened

Weiner had no problem being called a scumbag but was upset when his wife was called a racist name.

Weiner got offended when be called a scumbag and his wife being called a racist name.

Weiner got offended at being called a scumbag and used the point that his wife was also insulted to make his anger appear righteous.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and wouldn't marry one and is angry that someone thinks he would.

Weiner doesn't like Arabs and thinks it offensive to his wife to say that she is one.


Really could clear this up with a couple of questions.
Mr Weiner do you think you are a scumbag, does it bother you that some people believe you are?
Mr Weiner do you have a problem with Arabs, would you marry an arab?


Yeah no. I'll tell you again - He was attempting to use her race to buttress his notion that Weiner is a scumbag.

Because the speaker is a racist that hates Arabs (and apparently people he thinks are Arabs), you see?

Weiner's reaction doesn't change that and in no way indicates he has a problem with Arabs.
 
2013-09-05 01:07:39 PM  

jyoders19: That's a different camera. That just wasn't in the original video. Thanks for providing it.


You're welcome.  The Kornblut video wasn't as complete as the Weiner campaign video.  And underscores why campaigns should always hire a video grapher.  He had that video out soon after the Kornblut video and quickly the tone changed to what a putz the heckler was.  Weiner is a putz too, but his campaign staff was right on top of this controversy to where Weiner might gain some votes out of this.

Words like this coming from an Orthodox Jew are not unknown in NYC.  Lots of New Yorker's like me are tired of their attitudes towards anyone not of their faith.  YMMV, NAWJALT, etc etc
 
2013-09-05 01:07:42 PM  
I don't care if "cheated" or not he lied about it, said his twitter account was hacked, said he stopped, lied about it some more, did a spread in "People" magazine and then got caught sexting again. He's unfit for public office because of the lying, not because of what he did.
 
2013-09-05 01:08:44 PM  
"where Weiner might gain some votes out of this." Ummm, no. You have a healthy fantasy life if you think that's true.
 
2013-09-05 01:10:17 PM  

jyoders19: I don't care if "cheated" or not he lied about it, said his twitter account was hacked, said he stopped, lied about it some more, did a spread in "People" magazine and then got caught sexting again. He's unfit for public office because of the lying, not because of what he did.


Yea, in general I agree with you but politicians lie.  People lie.  Some politicians lie about sexting people they aren't married to, some politicians lie about WMD's so they can start a war.  Not all lies are the same.
 
2013-09-05 01:11:54 PM  

jyoders19: "where Weiner might gain some votes out of this." Ummm, no. You have a healthy fantasy life if you think that's true.


I don't know how you people do things in Chicago (Chicago?  Honest politicians?  Really?) but in New York we respect people that stand up to bigots.
 
2013-09-05 01:17:33 PM  
Any real chance Weiner had of getting more than 10% of the vote for mayor ended when it was revealed that he was still sexting women outside of his marriage. Whether you respect people like Weiner or not. Your slur against the people of Chicago calling them dishonest shows you're just as much of a bigot as the person you claim to hate.

As for all "lies" being the same, when it's YOU who created the lie to cover your own ass they are a little bit worse.
 
2013-09-05 01:18:56 PM  
Definitely not voting for that heckler, then.

Definitely.
 
2013-09-05 01:20:37 PM  

jyoders19: I don't believe the guy said ANYTHING about Weiner's wife. I just don't. Weiner's a pathological liar and I don't put it past him to make this up and say it IN A PRESS CONFERENCE because he knows it's his word against the other guy's. I think this is a pattern of Weiner using that poor woman as a shield for his selfish, arrogant and perverted behavior. It's certainly not the first time he's used her that way.


The guy admitted to it in interviews and said that Weiner was a race traitor.

But keep farking that chicken.

You have to be trolling, though.  There's no way you're not a massive liberal just trying to make the right wing look back.
 
2013-09-05 01:21:06 PM  
I just think it's funny that someone who claims to be from one of the most corrupt cities in the world can think they have an informed opinion on how New Yorkers vote.  Your reading comprehension is poor- I didn't say anything about the people of Chicago, just their politicians.

/your pizza sucks too
 
2013-09-05 01:23:09 PM  
Rahm Emanuel is the mayor of the City of Chicago and he would have never done anything as stupid as saying his twitter account was hacked, because he never would have needed to sext women outside his marriage to get his rocks off in the first place. Also, if someone would have called him a scumbag at a campaign stop he would have laughed it off and not given the guy a chance to scream back to show how tough he was. Even Weiner now says that he feels the need to "get in their faces" to show how tough he is and he said he'd do the same as mayor. That is so beyond stupid that if you don't see it then I feel sorry for you.
 
2013-09-05 01:27:03 PM  
Who votes for the politicians? The people of Chicago. Your outdated swipe is an attack on the majority of Chicagoans by extension. Do you realize the president of the United States is a "Chicago politician?" Do you think Al Capone still controls Chicago?  You sound like a really angry person and you HAVE to realize you're one of just 7% of New Yorkers who supports Weiner. I know going down with the ship is noble and all, but, dude, you need to face it. It's over. Attacking the people of Chicago with outdated stereotypes and our pizza will not change that.
 
2013-09-05 01:30:09 PM  
Hamster, I honestly hadn't seen the second video until it was posted here. I don't think most Americans have. CNN is a dying network - third place in cable news - and this is really old news already with the 24/7 news cycle. I doubt I'm alone in not having seen that second video until now. I thanked him for posting it but I think we can all agree that skepticism of Weiner is warranted.
 
2013-09-05 01:37:00 PM  

jyoders19: Who votes for the politicians? The people of Chicago. Your outdated swipe is an attack on the majority of Chicagoans by extension. Do you realize the president of the United States is a "Chicago politician?" Do you think Al Capone still controls Chicago?  You sound like a really angry person and you HAVE to realize you're one of just 7% of New Yorkers who supports Weiner. I know going down with the ship is noble and all, but, dude, you need to face it. It's over. Attacking the people of Chicago with outdated stereotypes and our pizza will not change that.


I don't support Anthony Weiner.  I support how he dressed down this idiot.  Maybe you should let go of your inferiority complex about your city and learn reading comprehension.
 
2013-09-05 01:40:48 PM  

Job Creator: I support how he dressed down this idiot.


He sounded like a fool.

"Only God can judge me!!!!"  No, sorry Miley Wiener.  You're running for office, everyone gets to judge you.

/and you make it soooo easy.....
 
2013-09-05 01:44:39 PM  
You personally attacking my city as "corrupt" means I have an "inferiority complex?" Honestly, you are a child grown old. Criticizing others on a public forum for "reading comprehension?" What grade vocabulary do you teach? Sixth? A minute ago you were crowing about how this video will "gain Weiner some votes," as if it happened in a vacuum. Weiner is going to lose. Let go of your hate, son. You won't get so angry about meaningless things like this and you won't feel like you need to criticize and personally attack people that you don't even know online or pass judgment on cities you've never even seen. You'll enjoy a happier life.
 
2013-09-05 01:46:47 PM  
Someone who is better at video than me, PLEASE make a Miley Cyrus/Screaming Weiner mashup.
 
2013-09-05 02:08:33 PM  
Assholes all the way down.
 
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