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(Time)   From today's "Good Luck With That" file: Chelsea Manning has filed the papers requesting a pardon from President Obama   (nation.time.com) divider line 120
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2013-09-04 03:50:43 PM  
Maybe on his way out the door, but I sort of doubt it.  Perhaps commuting the sentence to time served at the end of his term would be more likely, but even that's a bit of a long shot I'd think
 
2013-09-04 03:50:50 PM  
I think the President has bigger things to worry about.
 
2013-09-04 03:53:55 PM  
myhometruths.com
 
2013-09-04 03:56:25 PM  
S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa
 
2013-09-04 04:03:30 PM  
Hey, may as well file the paperwork. No president would ever grant that pardon, but no harm in trying.
 
2013-09-04 04:07:13 PM  

borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa


You think she'll still be in prison when Chelsea Clinton runs for President?
 
2013-09-04 04:14:34 PM  
GEEZ. The balls on that guy.
 
2013-09-04 04:35:49 PM  

borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa


You're almost correct.
She is ineligible to apply for a pardon, and won't be until 5 years after she is released from confinement. (source)
But there is no restriction on Obama's privilege to grant a pardon. He can grant it right now, if he wants to. (source)
 
2013-09-04 04:38:49 PM  

borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa


She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.
 
2013-09-04 04:45:24 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.


what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.
 
2013-09-04 04:55:10 PM  

James!: [myhometruths.com image 350x367]


Aw... :-(
 
2013-09-04 04:57:33 PM  
Who's Chelsea Manning?

Any relation to the traitor Bradley Manning?
 
2013-09-04 04:58:29 PM  

ManateeGag: TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.

what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.



s/HE has almost no rights anymore having been convicted in a military court of espionage. Did he legally change his name, I would be highly surprised if that happened this quickly while being in prison.
 
2013-09-04 04:58:44 PM  

elvisaintdead: GEEZ. The balls on that guy.


He's just making up for his earlier dickless move
 
2013-09-04 04:59:33 PM  
Is chealsea his sister or wife?? I swear American pop culture keeps adding new characters daily to keep the Mooers mooing.

Moo
 
2013-09-04 04:59:47 PM  
Launder money from drug cartels you get nothing more than a token fine that amounts to maybe a day's profit,  if that.

Inform the American people what their government is doing....  Spend years in prison.
 
2013-09-04 04:59:59 PM  

Truther: Who's Chelsea Manning?

Any relation to the traitor Bradley Manning?


His momma call him Bradley, I'ma call him Bradley.
 
2013-09-04 05:00:19 PM  

James!: [myhometruths.com image 350x367]


If that's who I think it is, then a mountain of kudos to you, sir.  A more obscure reference cannot be found.

/en vogue?
 
2013-09-04 05:01:13 PM  

nekom: Maybe on his way out the door, but I sort of doubt it.  Perhaps commuting the sentence to time served at the end of his term would be more likely, but even that's a bit of a long shot I'd think


Not just no, but hell no. That kid will rot in jail for the rest of his life. Why would anyone want to pardon his stupid ass?
 
2013-09-04 05:02:28 PM  

ManateeGag: TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.

what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.


Genetics and science don't count when it comes to LGBT issues. Global warming and stem cells (and vaccinations, if you're Bill Maher), sure - but not LGBT issues - that's when Democrats throw science out the window. It's more convenient for them that way.
 
2013-09-04 05:03:26 PM  
Well, here's a chance for Obama to stand behind his words regarding "protecting whistleblowers." Of course if there's one thing politicians hate, it's when you compare their actions to their previous statements.
 
2013-09-04 05:04:22 PM  
Since "Bradley" is still her legal name, that's how the request was signed. So Bradley is asking Obama to pardon Chelsea?

// seriously - it's just a pronoun
// one extra letter
// let it go
 
2013-09-04 05:04:59 PM  
Link

borg: Good luck with President Clinton II.



I dunno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton
 
2013-09-04 05:07:02 PM  

ManateeGag: TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.

what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.


....that has to wait until the New York Times editorial staff runs Leavenworth.
 
2013-09-04 05:07:25 PM  
It'll probably be stamped with the following note:

REQUEST DENIED - No such person named 'Chelsea Manning' exists in the military prison system.
 
2013-09-04 05:07:56 PM  

Comic Book Guy: James!: [myhometruths.com image 350x367]


/en vogue?


And here I thought you were never gonna get it...
It was a great reference!
 
2013-09-04 05:08:07 PM  

James!: [myhometruths.com image 350x367]


Cute. But now I have the song stuck in my head.
 
2013-09-04 05:08:11 PM  

MrEricSir: Well, here's a chance for Obama to stand behind his words regarding "protecting whistleblowers." Of course if there's one thing politicians hate, it's when you compare their actions to their previous statements.


He's about to enter into a war in Syria. He's not going to overturn a military ruling.
 
2013-09-04 05:09:01 PM  
This plan might have a better chance.

Dear Mr. Next Republican President,

Want to give Obama a big FU?  Then pardon me.

Sincerely,
Chelsea Manning
 
2013-09-04 05:09:11 PM  
The only thing that could make this story more ridiculous and timely is if Manning changed his name to "CHill Master" Manning and start a career as a drag queen rapper from solitary.
 
2013-09-04 05:09:58 PM  
kinda wanna fark it

Ronnie: [holding a blonde wig and superglue]
Now, I will glue this to your head, and then I make love to your face.
 
2013-09-04 05:10:44 PM  
Pardon Chelsea; execute Bradley.
/and not in any existential Shiva / Phoenix rising from the ashes kind of way.
 
2013-09-04 05:11:14 PM  

mbillips: nekom: Maybe on his way out the door, but I sort of doubt it.  Perhaps commuting the sentence to time served at the end of his term would be more likely, but even that's a bit of a long shot I'd think

Not just no, but hell no. That kid will rot in jail for the rest of his life. Why would anyone want to pardon his stupid ass?


He's getting out when he's 60, which is hardly "the rest of his life".  He's not getting a pardon because that would make the Administration look weak, like they condone the wholesale leaking of classified documents enough to pardon/commute Manning's sentence.  He knew (or damn well should have known) what the score was going to be when he handed that DVD over.  I honestly don't buy this whole "gender confusion" thing, probably because Manning's lawyers used it as a Hail Mary during his sentencing.

Right or wrong, he did the crime, now he has to do the time.
 
Ant
2013-09-04 05:12:48 PM  

Hydra: Genetics and science don't count when it comes to LGBT issues. Global warming and stem cells (and vaccinations, if you're Bill Maher), sure - but not LGBT issues - that's when Democrats throw science out the window. It's more convenient for them that way.


Yeah, what has the state of someone's brain, and how the state of their brain makes them perceive themselves got to do with science? Everyone knows that your genes are the only thing that determine who you are!
 
2013-09-04 05:12:52 PM  
Eli and Peyton have a lot of money, this could happen.
 
2013-09-04 05:14:46 PM  
haha...what does he think he is, black or something?
 
2013-09-04 05:15:02 PM  
Why not? Nixon got a Presidential Pardon, and he was ruining the government on purpose.
 
2013-09-04 05:16:08 PM  
Well OK she is a little better looking than she used to be, but I doubt she's going to get a pardon even from Obama. He can't afford the political outcry from the right wing, not when he's fighting to keep Obamacare on the books and trying to decide what color bombs to drop on Syria.


cdn.c.photoshelter.com
 
2013-09-04 05:16:10 PM  
media.steampowered.com

What, no pardon?
 
2013-09-04 05:16:15 PM  

Hydra: ManateeGag: TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.

what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.

Genetics and science don't count when it comes to LGBT issues. Global warming and stem cells (and vaccinations, if you're Bill Maher), sure - but not LGBT issues - that's when Democrats throw science out the window. It's more convenient for them that way.


Next time a stem cell or weather pattern has it's feelings hurt because of something I said that would have in no way, shape, or form ever affected me to say differently I'll come back and un-ignore you.
 
2013-09-04 05:16:45 PM  
Ant:
Yeah, what has the state of someone's brain, and how the state of their brain makes them perceive themselves got to do with science? Everyone knows that your genes are the only thing that determine who you are!

If my uncle starts insisting he's Napoleon, I don't give him control of the regiments of France.
 
2013-09-04 05:17:30 PM  

Hydra: ManateeGag: TheDumbBlonde: borg: S/he's about 3 years too early, by the time Chelsea Manning is eligible for a pardon President Obama will be out of office. Good luck with President Clinton II.

/drtfa

She's still a he, and will be for the foreseeable future.

what happened to "if she wants to be refereed to as a woman, then she's a woman"

That's what I was told.

Genetics and science don't count when it comes to LGBT issues. Global warming and stem cells (and vaccinations, if you're Bill Maher), sure - but not LGBT issues - that's when Democrats throw science out the window. It's more convenient for them that way.


Yes, damn those stupid, science-hating idiots who acknowledge that gender identity (and people, in general) can be more complex than fitting into a simple (false) dichotomy and who can accept that one's gender does not necessarily match up with one's sex. Oh, the un-science of it all.

Am I doing it right?

/no worries, bigots and fascists, you can have your little hate-fest thread back, now
 
2013-09-04 05:22:23 PM  
Rainbows and unicorns, son. Rainbows and unicorns.
 
2013-09-04 05:23:36 PM  
Who the fark is Chelsea-

Oh.

Whatever.
 
2013-09-04 05:23:50 PM  
It's a good thing everyone can cloak their bigotry in patriotism. Otherwise, we might catch on.
 
2013-09-04 05:25:11 PM  
I'd go there. But not if I wanted it kept secret.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-04 05:27:37 PM  

RollingThunder: Ant:
Yeah, what has the state of someone's brain, and how the state of their brain makes them perceive themselves got to do with science? Everyone knows that your genes are the only thing that determine who you are!

If my uncle starts insisting he's Napoleon, I don't give him control of the regiments of France.


Sure, but if a black guy from the South Side of Chicago changes his name to "Mister" everyone ends up showing the dude some respect.
 
2013-09-04 05:28:45 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
/hot
 
2013-09-04 05:29:04 PM  

elvisaintdead: GEEZ. The balls on that guy gal.


Please, some sensitivity for the little freak.
 
2013-09-04 05:31:09 PM  
I would say, "biatch have your time in the slammer, Tyrone says he is serving cock and cake and he is all out of cake!"

/just what he/she wants
//no reach around either!
 
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